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Once again,
once again this year,
this year is being sponsored by Rabbi
Michael and Jerry Laxmeter.
And we will still determine
for what
in honor of what. There's a There's a
Apparently, uh it it worked last year
for the foolish llama for their
granddaughter, Abby Gail.
Okay.
So,
So, we're we're returning today to
things that I've discussed in the past,
which you you know, it doesn't make that
much of a difference if I discussed in
the past cuz many of you were not here
when I discussed it, and some of you
were here
didn't hear it, and some of you heard it
didn't understand it, and some of you
understood it already forgot it. So,
I I I thought I covered everyone just
now.
>> [laughter]
>> But
But But
I uh I revisited
some of the ideas, but the the most
important element was is that I was
looking at different sources along the
way
as I was doing this, and I'll I'll just
tell you now already that the the the
sources
The sources include
Who should we begin with? I'm going to
start with Rabbi Breuer. He's one of the
most most
So, if you don't know who Rabbi
Mordechai Breuer was, he was probably
you know, it's hard to you know,
to rank these things. He was probably
the most important
teacher of Tanakh
while he was alive.
And again, you can make arguments
others, and uh you know, him and Rabbi
Nachman Leibowitz
were very very different in what they
were trying to do and their approach.
And uh
he was also very opinion- opinionated,
very outspoken.
I think, and I once had a conversation
with, uh, with Rav Lichtenstein about
something which he had said. If you
want, I can tell you more about it. And
he said, "If he wasn't as rambunctious,
he probably would be listened to a
little bit more." And I think that was a
exact quote from Rav Lichtenstein. That
that had to do with the various
repetitions when we read Megillat
Esther. He proved that all of those
repeti- When you read a
word, right? He proved that all of those
were incorrect, and that we know the
exact tradition on it, and where those
things came from. And I have a nice
little pamphlet at home if anyone
written by if anyone wants to see it.
But he But he was somebody who certainly
was full of full of, uh, personality.
There was a Yeshiva that was opened many
years ago by, uh, one of the sons of
of Zalman Meltzer.
And the the Rabbanim in that Yeshiva
were Rav Breuer, Rav Amital, and Rav
Shach.
So, if you can imagine the three of
those people together teaching in one
Yeshiva, and, uh, maybe tells you a
little bit how the world changed over
over the years. But he was really quite
exceptional, and he had his own
approach.
So,
the reason I start with Rav Breuer was
certain of the things that I was looking
for, certain of the things that I was
aware of, he was probably the first one
who made me aware of a such things. I
heard his classes well. My wife was
actually much closer with him than I
was.
For years he taught in Matan, and she
was his
I'll say designated driver, but it ma-
makes it sounds like he was intoxicated,
but no, she Shh. Shh. She was his
designated driver, and she got extremely
entertained by all kinds of things that
he would say. His look at the world was
really quite interesting. So, so Rav
Breuer was one. So, that now I went to
probably,
you know, one of the most recent sources
that I've seen. It The other thing which
changed was seeing a a ancient source,
and that is the Book of Jubilees. Now,
the Book of Jubilees is not part of our
canon.
It is not considered to be holy in any
way or in any sense. Excuse me.
From by uh from Jewish tradition.
There are other
peoples who find it to be a text of
great significance. So, my reading of it
is
I would almost say, you know, like a
midrash. And there are midrashim that
quote certain things over there, but I I
found the Book of Jubilees really quite
interesting here. So much so that it got
me to wonder
not that Rav Hirsch is quoting it, but
whether there was an awareness of it
while he was writing what he was writing
because there there are certain things
there which were uh
shall we say interesting. And And I'm
going to you know, put it like this, one
more word of introduction, and then
we'll actually start.
The things that I came up with were
based upon reading what I was reading
and looking what I was looking at. And
I'll I'll I'll others along the way.
The one of the earliest
sources, well-known sources, that deal
with what we're going to deal with is
the Abarbanel, and I spent too many
pages in your sources on the Abarbanel
after cutting out some of it. And the
other one is the one who the Abarbanel
quotes, and that's the Ran. So, now you
don't know what it is, you don't know
what I'm talking about yet. But some of
the things that I was getting to is not
that any of them said it, it's that the
questions that are being dealt with and
some of the suggestions led me to think
about certain things. So, I'm just
giving you the constellation of the
spheres of influence which got us to
think about what we're thinking about.
With all that, let's start at the
beginning, and that is the beginning of
Lech Lecha, which is not the beginning.
That That That's actually part of the
issue and part of the problem.
So, right there we have a little bit of
a challenge, and people ask about the
challenge. People are troubled by this.
I'm not sure why.
And that is that the
that the sequence is inverse. It should
have said leaving your father's house
first and then it should have
subsequently said the other places
leaving your birthplace and the and your
land cuz that would seem to be the
correct way, but it's not the correct
way when we know what it is that we need
to know.
But because this isn't to the beginning.
And then God makes promises.
Now
blessings are what's going to follow.
Well, we'll read a little more
blessings. We like blessings. Whoever
blesses you will be blessed.
Whoever curses you will be cursed. You
say amen, right? Right here. Say amen.
And all peace and all peoples will be
blessed through you. So
the one thing that I want to go back to
are the last two words in the or last
three words or four words in the first
person. We don't know what that land is.
We don't know what that place of
destination is. Now, some of us have
cheated and we've read ahead a little
bit and we found out
that it's actually a place which as of
this moment is called the land of
Canaan. So I will point out something
which is a little ironic.
And that is Canaan is best known till
this point in the text for being cursed.
So therefore you're going to go to the
place I'm going to tell you to go to
land
which is based on the person which is
cursed and therefore you're going to be
blessed. So I hope that you appreciate
that irony and if you never thought
about that till this particular moment,
you now realize that there is something
a little bit more interesting about that
and maybe even a reason why God doesn't
say the place. I I understand. By not
saying the place, you're going to tell
you're going to give me a firm answer,
right? You firm answer. No, that
increases the reward. He doesn't know
where he's going. By the way, if you
don't know you're going, how do you
start your trip?
I know I'm I'm I'm being serious.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay, you walk out you
You walk
Exactly. You walk out of the house.
Okay, now I do you go right do you go
left you go you go around the block a
couple times which means
what if you don't know where you're
going then how do you know where you're
going?
So so
and how do you get there?
It's sort of like driving with your
husband who won't ask for directions,
right? So
like
how [clears throat]
don't know I'm being I'm being extremely
I'm being extremely practical maybe too
practical. Now if you all want to you
know you want to be me you want to do it
okay you can make up a midrash. Okay.
And say no just like when the Jews are
traveling the desert there was a cloud
that was leading them and therefore our
Avram sees the cloud and leads them.
Okay, I just made this up in the last 30
seconds. I don't know if anyone's ever
said this before but why not? Okay, and
then Avram's journey becomes the
prototype for the later journey that Am
Yisrael is going to take and you know
what?
It's the kind of thing if you go
searching now maybe somebody said it and
I know I keep saying this you like dead
rabbis more than live rabbis. You find
someone who's dead who said it then
you're happy and what can you do if I'm
still alive so deal with it. So
Baruch
Baruch Hashem you say Baruch Hashem.
Okay.
>> [laughter]
>> No, we want to make you more
authoritative. Okay, so let's
let's continue that.
We have built in problems but I'm going
to say it again Canaan is cursed Avram
is blessed. Avram's blessing becomes
when he goes to a place which is cursed.
Can I go back to the book of Jubilees
right now?
Book of Jubilees says that Noah
or Noach for us
promised the land which we will know as
land of Israel to the descendants of
Shem.
And Canaan who's on his way down to
Egypt
right Egypt is connected to the sons of
Ham as well. Canaan is on his way to
Egypt and he says "Wow, look at this
great land." And he steals it.
And the Book of Jubilees only utilizes
this much later on when Am Yisrael come
back. It's almost like a a Zionist
argument. We're going to do a lot of
Zionism today. I hope you realize Lech
Lecha is a is a time for Zionism. So
then there is the Zionist argument that
when the Jews start the conquest of the
lands of Israel, then the Canaanites can
complain, "Hold it, this is our
ancestral lands." So what are you
talking about? It was promised by Noach.
Noach gave that land since the flood and
you are usurpers and it's not your land
and we are taking back our ancestral
land. So I hope you appreciate all that.
And and again, all that gets played out
later on, but now you're all going to go
out and buy your copy of the Book of
Jubilees for your for your Zionist
propaganda. So
So as of now, we haven't gotten to any
problems yet. But what we have
noticed is a little bit more nuanced and
a little bit more again, something a
little bit more interesting. And then we
continue and our real problems will
start with pasuk dalit and then
subsequently with pasuk kaf.
Pasuk dalit says, "Vayeilech Avram
k'asher diber Hashem." So by the way, I
pause there. It's not the place to
pause, but I want to pause there. So
Avram does what God told him to do. And
and that sounds very good. That that is
a uh
that's a nice thing to do. It's a good
thing to do.
And then we get to the next phrase,
"Vayeilech It Lot." And Lot went with
him. And this is where our problems
begin.
Does Lot go with him
because God told Avram to go and
therefore is Lot on a religious mission
right now? Which means God spoke to
Avram. I believe that God spoke to Avram
and I want to be part of this
Abraham prophecy and therefore if
Avram's told to go to a land and the
blessing is coming, I want to be with
Avram. I I to help Avram. I want to take
care of Avram. I I want to be there in
case he needs something along the way. I
will be Avraham and again you realize
I'm
extending to what it didn't say. I'm
just asking what those words mean by
Lot. Or I'll I'll be a little bit
clearer now.
Is
he going with Avraham
the first two words or is he going with
the next couple words by the word of
Hashem.
Is is Lot on a religious mission?
So now now I can continue and say so how
cynical do we want to be?
So or is Lot saying listen, I got a
wealthy uncle who doesn't have any heirs
so I'm sticking with him.
So right? So hold it a second. That that
that just
turned this into something completely
different. Now, if this we didn't get to
the end of the verse yet. The the
Avraham been 75 years old when he goes.
Now in previous years
the question I would ask in order to
just to bother you was and how old was
he when God spoke to him? And you'd say
75 and I say how do you know? And you'll
say cuz it says 75 when he left.
But but as we've noted many times this
two
there's a later in partial which is
of the
and there it adds in another phrase.
What's the phrase?
Avraham gets up early in the morning and
he goes. Here we're not told anything
about the timeline between God saying it
and Avraham doing it which is something
again that space right there is
something where some commentaries will
say undoubtedly without any question we
can see some of them in a moment.
Avraham left immediately because that's
who Avraham is. And on the other hand
some say no no there's a little bit
there's a little bit more intrigue over
here taking place and the Torah doesn't
spell out all of the intrigue but there
are other considerations that we need to
be aware of. But but that is not our
problem yet. Our problem is the next
possible.
The next possible cuz what does it say
in the previous one? Vayelech Avram. So,
if you were then to explain this to me,
and make believe I don't know anything,
so what happened in pasuk
daled? What happened is
loco- motion, right? He he he starts to
move, right? This is a description,
correct? Kinetic energy moving from one
place to the other. It is right? That
that's certainly what it sounds like.
And then you get to the next pasuk,
Vayikach Avram et Sarai ishto, ve'et Lot
ben achiv, ve'et kol rechusham asher
rachashu, ve'et hanefesh asher asu
beCharan, vayetze'u lalechet artza
Canaan. And then they left to go to
Canaan. Vayavo artza Canaan, they came
to Canaan. So, why do I have vayetze'u
at the end of pasuk kaf when I already
had vayelech in the beginning of pasuk
daled? Moreover, why does the sequence
in pasuk daled only say that Lot goes
with him, and on the other hand pasuk
kaf, it says that he takes Sarai, and
and then he says he took Lot. Why did he
have to say he took Lot? Lot already
went with him. So, what's going on? Is
there more than one Lot? Right? Is there
an imposter Lot in the story? So, again,
you want to make anything up that you
want, go ahead. But, you have you have
Avram going twice, and you have Lot
going with him both times, and why does
it have to tell us that? And on top of
everything else, notice another thing,
where are they heading out to?
Lalechet artza Canaan. They're going to
the land of Canaan. Hold it.
Where did that get into the story?
Didn't God say aretza sharetza? So, now
one possibility is, okay, between
Okay, he has to tell him where you're
going, else you don't know where you're
going. So, at some point, God said the
land I'm going to tell you, or land I'm
right? I'll show you. Right, show you is
more interesting, cuz show you again
takes you back to the midrashim by the
akedah, right? You remember that he sees
the cloud on top of the mountain. So, we
hear again, he sees something, right?
There's this magical cloud. Or, those of
you who are more inclined, follow the
yellow brick road, or or or something to
that effect that Avram says kind of a
divine message that he knows where he's
going to, but by time he gets to
Pasuk Hey, they are Vayeitzei, they go
L'lechet Artza Canaan, Vayavo Artza
Canaan, and they arrive in the land of
Canaan. So, if I go back to Pasuk Daled,
it says Vayeilech Avram K'sher Dibber
Hashem, he goes, he sets off on the
mission.
If I look in Pasuk Hey, it again says
Vayeitzei L'lechet, they start the
mission,
but it says L'lechet Artza Canaan. So, I
hope you realize that all I've done so
far is I've pointed out that if until
this point in your lives, all that
you've ever done is just read Pasuk
Daled and Hey quickly together and never
realized that there may be some intrigue
over here.
So, yes, there's some intrigue over
here. Now, if I get way ahead of myself,
Rav Breuer thinks that either Avraham
went twice or Avraham is on two
different missions.
Rav Breuer loves the always having
complexity of two different things
taking place or two different
perspectives, the same story being told
by different perspectives, and so on, or
as he would call it Shnei B'chinot, two
aspects of what's happening, but he
again,
in terms of my knowledge, the first one
whoever pointed out to me that there's a
problem over here. By the way, that's
like the whole beginning of education is
realizing that there may be indeed a
problem in this text. So, once you see
the problem, then you can begin to be
sensitive to different kinds of
solutions. So, there's a problem over
here. The problem is is that we're told
that twice that Avraham goes, and why is
that necessary, and what does that mean,
and what is going on? So, now we realize
that we have a host of problems taking
place. If you want to get more complex
and more difficult, then there is a
backstory, right? And it's always
important to know the backstory. See, I
already gave you one backstory, and what
was that? That was the backstory that
Canaan is cursed. And it's cursed, so
now we can begin to question, you know,
the blessing and the curse as we already
did or question based upon what we saw.
The the rights that Canaan had to this
place.
If we continue
actually a little bit more.
Vayavor Avram
It's possible love Vayavor Avram b'eretz
Shechem ad Elon Moreh v'haKna'ani az
b'aretz. Again, the emphasis, the
Canaanites are there. Canaan is there.
It's It's Canaan. Canaan is there. Is
Canaan there rightfully or are they
going to lose it? Do they have a right
to be there to a certain point and so
on?
Vayera Hashem el Avram l'emor l'zar'acha
eten et ha'aretz hazot. Which means he
told him to go there or told him it's
going to be good and now God confirms
this land will [clears throat] be yours.
Vayiven sham mizbe'ach
l'Hashem hanireh elav. And he built an
altar
for the God who appeared to him.
I'm going to mention something that I'm
not going to get into too much today,
but if you're bored with everything else
I have to say, so then you can think
about this.
And it's two points connected to this.
One is that Avram builds altars along
the way and never puts anything on the
altar.
Yitzchak may be the first thing he puts
on an altar. Says he builds it, doesn't
mean brought any carbonot.
Okay, so I'm saying that's just one
thing to note along the way.
The the other thing is that even though
God speaks to Avram all the time, he
does not speak to him all the time.
There Just for example, he gets there
and he goes from one place to the other
to the second to the third and then
there's a famine and he goes down to
Egypt. Now, I know there's a whole
discussion that we're not going to have.
Ramban and others or Chaim question how
old it How could he go down to Egypt?
The Ramban says that again, we're doing
Zionism today. The Ramban says terrible
sin. He's going to the land of Israel.
Now, he leaves Israel.
He First of all, he's not told the
borders
yet about, you know, where I can go,
where I can't go, what is this land
that's his. The second thing is that God
speaks to him when it's convenient for
God, not when Abram necessarily needs a
message. Wouldn't have been good if God
would have said to him right then,
"Okay, don't worry about the famine. I
got you." Right?
What do you want to say?
There There There are grocery stores.
Osher Ad.
Happiness forever, right? You You You
You will uh
Right?
What?
Well [laughter]
Well
By the way, it doesn't really bring
happiness forever.
>> [laughter]
>> It It It It's It's good.
It's good. Um
I mean, he could have said, "Stay here."
Or he could have said, "Go down to Egypt
for a bit." Or which means there's
silence then.
Which means as as much as you would love
to think, "Oh, God micromanages and has
this constant conversation with Abram."
There is revelation and then there's
concealment. And there's not this
constant information of being told at
every step, "What do you do and how do
you handle this?" And you can chart
every single event of Abram's life and
then look next to it, where was there a
Where was there a conversation? Where
was not a conversation? Where there's a
promise and where there's instructions
and so on. And you realize that Abram's
on his own a lot even though there is
this general uh
instructions or promises that take
place. But um you know, bring a Being a
prophet is not as easy as you think it
is. Okay? Let's Let's continue.
Source number two.
And And if you did not realize that this
is the start of the story, then you
didn't understand the story. Again, I
keep telling you that my job is to make
you feel inadequate. Otherwise, you will
not keep on coming back and say, "I I
all of that already."
So, if you look at source number two,
it's the end of parshat Noach. The told
that Terach, Terach will lead Avram,
right? This is the beginning of the
story, right? This is the beginning of
the Avram story. And Nachor and Haran,
Haran will lead Lot.
But you might turn around open a Terach
Avram in Ur of the Chaldeans.
And
Haran died. Now, there's certain
midrashim that tell us about Haran's
death.
Do you If we're really going to do the
Book of Jubilees today, you want to know
what the Book of Jubilees says? It says
that Avram set fire to his father's
idolatry straw store, and Haran ran
inside and tried to put out the fire.
And he got killed by Avram's arson.
One second. That that's like a a little
more interesting. The midrash that talks
about it, it says that when Avram's
thrown into the furnace, he kind of sits
on the fence, and he says, "If Avram
wins, I'm on Avram's team. And
if Nimrod wins, then I'm on Nimrod's
team." And then when And then again, he
ends up getting then thrown in the
furnace also. Again, it's because of
Avram, but not really. It's because of
his
Over here also, you could say it's
because of him. Who told him to go tell
him to put out the fire? But
nonetheless, I'm just saying when the
authorities look into and investigate
the death of Haran, you may realize that
Avram is responsibility or
does this now perhaps explain why Avram
is willing to take Lot with him? Does
Avram feel any kind of responsibility
for Lot? By the way, that that there's
two questions. I only asked one before,
and you should have asked the other one.
What was the one that I asked? I asked,
"Why does Lot go with him?" And I gave
you a couple of possibilities. I didn't
ask you, "Why does Avram agree to take
him?"
So, again,
I'm I'm I'm trying to get
Okay. And and and hopefully we'll see
commentaries that will say that but as I
said we have to at least ask the
question.
We good? Continue.
So positive was that Haran died.
By the way note. Eretz Molotov or
Kasdim.
Or Kasdim.
Some of there's a midrash.
There is a Targum Yonathan that says Or
Kasdim is literally the furnace, the
fire that was in Kasdim.
God says I took you out of Or Kasdim. I
saved you from the furnace but here you
have a positive if you that's the
interpretation that then implies like
the midrash then tells us, oh he died in
the furnace. Of Kasdim. Okay? And and as
I said midrash says that.
Next.
And so on.
But he Sarah in the flood
and Notice. This is actually pretty
close.
To our positive K before. Positive K is
so the difference is a sequence. He goes
with his own family first blood before
right? A daughter-in-law.
The tummy Or Kasdim. The
land of Canaan.
So right there you have to stop a second
and say, hold it a second. What in the
world is going on? Terah is already on
his way to Eretz Canaan which then you
have a whole bunch of questions to ask.
Why is Terah on his way to the land of
Canaan?
But he only made it to Haran and he
and he settles there.
And then we're told about his death even
though if you look at Rashi, Rashi will
even do the math for you and he will
point out that Terah lives another 65
years after this, which means he lives
till Yitz till Avram's 135 years old,
which means Yitzhak is already 35 years
old at that point, which means the
closest thing that happens maybe the
Akedah or or Sarah's death is 2 years
later, which means he almost lives to
the point that Sarah passes away, which
means Terah's alive for a long time
after this.
And there's also a contradiction, which
I'm not going to explain today. I have
it other times that at the end of over
here at the end of Noah, he's Rashi says
that Avram left cuz he was an idolater
and a wicked person. And later on in by
the by the Brit Bein HaBetarim, he says
that he did teshuvah.
So my explanation for that is as long as
Avram's there, he's wicked, but when
Avram leaves, then he says, "Hold it."
Which means he was able to I said I
wasn't going to explain this. He was
able to rely on Avram the whole time,
which means I don't have to keep kosher.
My son's ultra-Orthodox, right? I mean,
he's doing all the stuff for me. I don't
I don't have to do anything myself. And
then once Avram's not there anymore,
then then he has to come to terms. But
all that doesn't explain something else.
Why in the world does he want to go that
way?
Which by the way, just like his son sits
on the fence, maybe there's a certain
aspect of Terah also sitting on the
fence. He's on the way, but he goes
halfway, but we don't know why he's
going. Do you want to do the Book of
Jubilees again? Book of Jubilees, the
land of Canaan was promised to a
descendant of Shem. Now, it doesn't
connect the dots like I am, like I'm
about to do. So maybe Terah is on the
way there. This is inheritance. He's
from Shem.
Canaan is there illegally. I want to go
there and stake my claim and say, "This
is my land." Which by the way, notice
what I just now did. I just now turned
Terah's going there completely for
financial reasons, which by the way may
then have influ-
It may also
impact the way that we look at Lot,
which mean Okay, I'm going to try to be
a little a clearer now cuz you're not
necessarily following everything I'm
saying. What's the matter? Why are you
laughing?
Clarity is good?
What's the most important difference
between Avraham's journey and Terach's
journey?
Which means Avraham, and we have to say
this, is on a mission from God, right?
Okay.
On the other hand,
Terach apparently is not.
By the way,
would you be willing
to call Terach
a secular Zionist?
Would you Would you be willing to call
a secular Zionist who dreams of getting
into the land,
but he never makes it there?
He's got his JNF pushka or something in
the but
you right away you should get it now.
I said it's I said a secular Zionist.
>> Secular Zionist?
>> The Zionist part still has some
connection to Syria or whatever.
There's a reason he didn't care for
religious why this plot got somewhere
else. It's something
>> Semitic
Semitic motivations. It was promised
It's the promised land. Again, I'm going
back to my book of It's
>> to them?
>> He promised to the No, I'm going back to
the book of Jubilees. It was promised to
the people of Shem.
>> Okay.
All right.
>> But by the way, you have a better
explanation why I Look, look, I I I know
that there will be commentaries who will
then say, "Oh, Terach must have realized
that this was a spirit He's a spiritual
searcher searcher, and he realized that
this is a spiritual place." Which by the
way, what are they going then going to
do? They're going to read an Avraham
type of story into Terach as well and
say, "Oh, Terach is doing it for the
same reasons that Avram is doing it,
which of course is not the easiest thing
to say. You just now turned Terach also
into the spiritually sensitive person.
He knows that this is the holy land. He
knows that this is again and and by the
way, so now the only shift that it took
place instead of my calling him a
secular Zionist, which
again, you want to be overly technical
with me. No, secular Zionism is only in
the 19th century and it's a political
movement and it has nothing to do at
all.
But I think you are
By the way, I was having a conversation
with chat GPT on the way here and that's
what it said to me then. No, you can't
say such a thing. And I'm saying you're
a fool. I like what what what what Of
course I could say that. Don't be overly
technical. We we we discussed lots of
things about
about the
Who else am I going to talk to?
>> [laughter]
>> on the way. But but but I'm doubling
down on this. I'm doubling down on on
saying that maybe he wants to come here.
It says he wants to go to land of
Canaan. All I'm asking you is why. So if
you want to give him religious
motivation for it, I'm fine with that.
But it's absent. By the way,
now look at dalet and hey again.
Are we able to do that?
dalet and hey, what do you notice in
dalet? Avram is told to go to a place.
Right, which means it goes back to it
modifies aleph.
He's going to places unknown and he's on
this mission from God going to where God
told him to go and he and it doesn't say
what that place is. And what about
does hey talk about that mission from
God or not?
hey talks about going to land of Canaan.
So now I'll ask you again, are dalet and
hey describing the same mission or are
they describing
You can say, of course it's the same
mission, but one
And that's only if you read one into the
other. But but but I have to be clearer
with you. I have to be clearer.
Otherwise this wouldn't wouldn't work.
What I'm really asking is is it possible
You see what I just now did. Is it
possible You know what I'm going to ask
now, right?
Is it possible
that in some way, shape, or form Abraham
is continuing
the trip that his father started.
Okay? Okay, is that is that is is that
By the way, go back to Lot. Is
Go over that my question about Lot.
Abraham goes as God commanded him.
What's Lot doing? Is Lot going Again, we
gave Lot all kinds of motivations. One
is that it's a religious motivation.
Another is this dedication to Abraham.
Another is possibly financial. And
another could be that that's what his
grandfather started to do and therefore
he's going along the same way. So, I'm
I'm just again pointing out complexity.
So, maybe we maybe we finally have
enough uh
enough energy.
>> [clears throat]
>> See, the other thing that we then have
to play into all of this is source
number three, which is the eventual
separation between Lot and Abraham. If
they're in this together, so then at
which point and why do they separate?
I'll note that the separation takes
place
as we're told that Lot has a great deal
of wealth as well.
I'm not saying that necessarily cuz by
the way, one good thing about wealth is
you can always stand more of it, right?
I mean it it it doesn't it won't hurt,
right? Anybody willing to take more or
no?
Listen, I've maxed out, right?
I don't I don't want to go to that next
tax bracket. I mean this is a
Many billionaires would like to.
Right? I mean none of you unless you
speak from experience, but uh
but why not? He's very limited with only
1 billion. You can't buy a professional
sports team with 1 billion.
You need significantly You need more.
You need more capital. Okay.
Right? You ever hear of the definition
of a bar mitzvah?
When you realize it's more likely for a
Jewish kid to own an NBA team than to
play in the NBA?
>> [laughter]
>> Statistic
No, statistically, look how many owners
and how many players, right?
No, there's a couple There's a couple.
Yeah, you have a couple You have a
couple of players. What I'm saying, look
at how many players out of how many
players there are, and look at how many
owners out of how many owners there are,
and you have a far better chance of
owning a team than playing in the NBA.
So, once you understand that, then
you've become a Jewish man, right? That
That That's That's the definition of
adulthood. You know, now you've
understood
Now you've understood reality. Okay.
So much wisdom you're picking up today.
No. That That
Namshich.
So, at which point does Lot separate
from Avram? At the point that he becomes
very wealthy. So, now maybe
At which point does Lot separate? At the
point that he no longer is in need of
Avram to get his own personal comfort.
And that is again the whole discussion
after they come back from Egypt. Compare
it to God, you'd Gimel, source number
three.
And uh
they come up from the south. And Avram
says, "Let's separate."
And then Avram says to him, and you have
to be careful about this, he says, "If
you go
left, I'll go right. You go right, I'll
go left." I want I want to be careful
now. It's north and south.
Is because the orientation is facing the
east. If you're not sure about this,
you'll look in uh Targum Onkelos
already. It describes this as north and
south, which means that they are in the
country, and Avram's essentially saying
the land of Canaan could be divided. And
what Lot then does, instead of choosing
north or south, he chooses to go east,
and he goes to Stone. And that itself is
incredibly telling, cuz if I say that
Lot came because of spiritual reasons,
then he ends up choosing to go to Stone,
which the
the Torah,
if you will, the narrator
attests,
and it says about Stone, it says that
these people were exceedingly wicked. If
you want, we can find that exact uh
words, pasuk gimmel, the anshei Stone,
ra'im v'chata'im la'Hashem m'od. So, I
may even have understated it. They are
exceedingly wicked, and Lot says, "Oh, I
think I'd like to move to the place
which is exceedingly wicked." And or you
know, what is my choice over here? I can
stay with Abraham, the greatest man in
history of the world to this point, and
he kind of discovers monotheism, and
he's
and he's trying to do good for the
entire world, and opens up his tents,
and prays, and prays, and calls out in
the name of God. Or, let me go and
become a Sodomite. So, the the choices
over here are just really, really
interesting, and Lot What?
And and and Lot chooses that. Now,
again, you want to defend Lot, I'm happy
to defend Lot. It doesn't work out all
that well, then. I'm I'm just going to
note that. It doesn't work out that
well. But if you want to defend him, you
can say, "Okay, Avram's going to the
land of Canaan, a place which is cursed,
and he's going to bring blessing to it.
Maybe Lot imagines that he can now go to
Stone and bring blessing to it." Again,
you want me to download kavsklood for
Lot, I'll download kavsklood, I have a
hard time saying this, cuz I would kind
of think that as long as Avram's alive,
you know, you don't have to become the
rebbe of Stone yet, right? He becomes
the chief rabbi of Stone. You don't have
to become the rebbe of Stone as long as
Avram's still alive. Maybe there's still
something he can learn from Avram, and
be with Avram, be inspired by Avram. So,
it seems a little unfortunate that you
get you let this financial situation get
in the way, and but and then they
separate. So, again, I have to go back
and ask, "Well, why did he join in the
first place, and what was it all about,
and what was the motivation, and is it
religious, and is he following Terah?
Again, you you've seen all the moving
parts right now. Yes?
>> I just feel uncomfortable thinking that
the mission that Avram was given wasn't
a special mission
to include
both in that
concept
takes away from the importance of Avram
Avinu.
>> As a participant in this year. So, let
let let me help you. Let me help you.
When God instructs Avram in the very
beginning
and he says
lech lecha me'artzecha u'moladetecha
u'mibet avicha. And I said that that
really wasn't a good question to say
"bet avicha" was last. Why not? Because
Terah already left
the place they were born, which means
we were thinking geogra- in terms of
geography, his father's home has moved.
His father's it's much more tragic cuz
his father's home is on the way to
Canaan.
But he settled halfway along the way.
And what does God say to him? And
remember, Avram will become an av hamon
He's going to inspire everybody
in the world. And what does God say to
Avram? Yeah, you're going to inspire
everybody, but leave your father behind.
One second. Leave your father behind.
And his father's home now you realize
it's even worse cuz his father's on the
way. Can you imagine Avram again, he
negotiates with stone. Can you imagine
turning around and saying "Hold on a
second.
My dad's on the way to Canaan. He's on
the way to the place you're sending me
anyway. How in the world could you tell
say to leave my father's house?" I'm
just saying that that instruction to
leave your father's house, which is the
last element said here, leave the place
you were born, he already did that.
Leave your land, he already did that.
Leave your father behind. I'm saying
it's worse than you thought cuz it's
much easier when you say "Okay, Terah is
an oved avodah zarah and Terah is is
stuck there." No, Terah is on the way.
And why does Terah come? I mean, what is
his motivation? I mean, there are those
who claim
Okay, I'm going to give you the radical
reading, which is uh implied from the
Siftei Me'at.
Siftei Me'at is dealing with something
slightly slightly different.
You know the famous question, why does
uh God choose Avraham?
Right? Why does God choose So, the
Siftei Me'at says that God that God
spoke to every single person in the
world, and the only
person who I was going to say crazy, the
only person who listens to voices is
Avraham, and says and everyone else
doesn't. But, I can now claim someone
else listened also, and that's Terach.
Terach also heard that call, and Terach
starts going, cuz that's what God God
said to everybody, "Lech lecha
me'artzecha u'mimoladetecha u'mibeit
avicha." And he starts to go as well,
but he doesn't get all the way there.
And now I ask you a different question,
when does Avraham succeed in separating
u'beit aviv?
And my answer is when Lot separates from
him.
It's only when he when Lot leaves, which
means Lot coming with him
is counter to God's instruction. Now,
you realize initially he doesn't take
Lot. Initially Lot comes Should we read
that pasuk again? Pasuk dalet.
"Vayeilech Avram k'asher diber eilav
Hashem." "Vayeilech Vayeilech Vayeilech
ito Lot." Not "Vayeikach Lot." And Lot
goes with him. Now, Lot going with him
maybe at this point we don't know what
to do with this. Later on, again, you
want to interpret everything from the
end working backwards, so Lot ends up in
S'dom, and now you realize, "Hold it.
This doesn't work." By the way, if if
you read you back in source number
three, and you the read
the very end, "Va'anshei S'dom ra'im
v'chata'im laHashem od." And that's
where now Lot will make his home. Pasuk
dalet, "VaHashem amar el Avram acharei
hipared lo me'imo."
After he leaves, and he says, "Oh, look
around, S'dom u'Negba u'Keidma u'Yama."
By the way, it's interesting. I mean,
that goes back to the right and the left
and so on. But, but Lot is off in S'dom
right now, and God speaks to him after
Again, Rashi notes, after Lot leaves, so
now I have to go back and ask you this
question, how does all of this
information relate to again this other
part, leave your father's house? And and
is Lot coming with him? Contrary to the
instruction of leaving your father's
house. And again, I've just noted that
it's more complicated once you realize
more complex. Once you realize that
Terah is actually along the way, you
know, in that direction.
Yeah.
>> According to
approach to this awesome message
>> Yeah.
>> everybody this opportunity this
challenge What about all the people
already there? So, where are they
supposed to go? They're already in town.
And I don't know how many people that
is.
>> Yeah, there's there's
>> one thing for the ones who aren't there
but are already there.
>> Yeah, they're supposed to leave. They're
not supposed to stay there.
Yeah. It's it's interesting.
>> It almost sounds like it's more
metaphorical than
>> Yeah.
>> You know, leave your house and you leave
leave that whole world of idolatry.
>> I'll I'll I'll I'll help you a little
bit.
The Sfas Emes quotes the Zohar.
So, I looked up the Zohar. I found it
like in five different places, you know,
the It doesn't say it.
Okay.
What the What the Zohar actually says is
like it's It's like the sounds from
Sinai is always speaking to us and we
should listen to Torah. I mean, not
exactly "No lech lecha" but the sound is
always there and you know what's right.
So, therefore, if you're Canaan and
you're not supposed to be in the land of
Israel, so you're supposed to leave.
So, so I I again, I'm I'm just looking
at that Sfas Emes and the source that he
brings and then that that's the
direction. I mean, do the right thing.
That's what everyone should know to do
the right thing, which is kind of like
the Gemara, right? The aggadah in
Maseches Niddah that says this angel
comes before you're born and teaches you
the entire Torah. So, deep inside you
know the right thing. Which if you know
what Rav Soloveitchik said about this,
he said it's actually halakha. He goes,
"Where do you see it's halakha?" He says
that by the laws of get, it says that if
the Beit Din says you should give a get,
it says you they beat you until you say
So, you say, "I'm going to do it." By
the way, only a Jewish court, not a
non-Jewish court. He goes, "But a get
being given under under duress is not a
get." So, he says, "No, a person really
wants to do the right thing and it's the
yetzer hara that doesn't want to do the
right thing. So, you're hitting the
yetzer hara, you're hitting the yetzer
hara." But, he goes, "How do you know a
person wants to do the right thing?" He
goes, "Oh, no, that's the malach that
taught you all the Torah before you were
born." And he says, "No, that's the
halacha. Halacha is inside we want to do
the right thing and we know the right
thing." So, again, it's it's it's
incredible that he says that. By the
way, unfortunately, the beit din does
not beat enough people today. There are
certain people that actually
need to be beaten. So, we we we have not
gone
far enough today. So, let's start with
source number four.
Shouldn't have to prepare I shouldn't
have to prepare so much. Let's look at
source number four at the Chizkuni. He
says, "Vayeilech Lot
Meit b'Or Kasdim biglal Avraham Achiv."
So, by the way,
I don't
I'm not even going to go there by
saying, "Oh, did did he see what what
what it says in the in the Book of
Jubilees that he's putting out the fire
that Avram set?" I don't think so. I I I
I don't know. I don't I I don't
I I can't comment on this. I'm not
commenting. I don't know. The Midrash
that says that he said that that he ends
up after Avram's thrown in the furnace,
but it's really interesting is that
he goes with him, L'Fisha, right?
K'Mosha Amru Raboteinu, "Hayah Lo Lot
k'Ven Bayit." So, I think that's what
that's what you were saying as well.
That Lot be That Lot becomes for him
like a son, as it were, surrogate son.
But, it's interesting cuz this almost
all which means is the comments of
the Chizkuni talking about Lot's
motivation or talking about Avram's
motivation. "L'Fisha Haran Avav Meit
b'Or Kasdim biglal Avraham Achiv."
It It It sounds like it's going both
ways that it's also this is Avraham's
sense of responsibility as well. So,
again, the Chizkuni, I think, is
important. The Malbim says something
which some of you will like. It's
actually quite modern. I mean, Malbim
doesn't live all that long ago. It's
It's really quite modern and I can't be
completely convinced by it, but why
should I tell you what I think? Let let
let's read what he says.
He believes that pasuk dalet
is all
motivational
and in his mind
and what he's thinking about
and pasuk hey describes what actually
happened.
So pasuk dalet mashak
Avram kafol
meaning that the two meaning He notes
the problem. The two verses
you don't need to say it twice. It says
Avram goes twice. Why does it say it
twice?
The
I'm skipping the 75 problem. Let's skip
a little bit of Avram.
What he says after this keep
a mashak
One is talking about intentionality.
What's going on taking place in his
mind.
That in his mind now he has separated
from his land. He's separated from his
birthplace. Separated from his father's
home. He doesn't say that from his
father's home as God has said, which
means it's all in his mind.
Again making that daylight between the
two of them. Lot
did not create that same separation. Lot
just goes because
Avram
So therefore
Again Avram has to separate
but Lot is saying this is my family.
Again I can read this back with the What
family do I have right now? I have
Avram. I got my uncle. Who Who else do I
have? So therefore he wants to stay with
his family. Well Avram has to has to
separate from the family. So you see
again Lot becomes a little bit more
interesting, but he also sets up two
different motivations. Avraham is
his intentionality, his thoughts,
motivation is all having to do with the
divine instruction. And then he says,
"But what does that second verse come
and say?" A chara one second posuk hey a
chashi she bare lecha machshavit yes
about the cover lecha before. Then after
already spoke about the intention, so
now talks about the reality of what then
took place. So then again,
you note this problem which may not have
troubled us before we started today that
how do you work out posuk dalet and
posuk hey? So the Malbim just now gave
you a very cogent answer. Again, why did
I say it bothers me?
What bothers me is one word in posuk
dalet. What's that? Vayeilech. He went.
[laughter]
It shouldn't have said he went. It
should have said that he listened.
It should have said he obeyed. It should
have said almost any other word. And
that's why I stren- I stren- I stressed
before the locomotion, the movement, the
going. He's he he he's traveling.
Vayeilech, he he goes. So therefore, I I
I love what he said. I just kind of
don't believe it.
By the way, you disagree with me? You're
allowed to say, "No, I like it." "Stop
it." "I like it."
You're allowed to like it. It's fine.
Um the Or HaChaim stresses that he went
right away in source number six. He has
some other interesting things to say
about this as well.
But we're not going to uh I mean, he
does this all out of obedience because
God told him to do it.
He goes He sets out not knowing where
he's going, although obviously God has
to tell him at some point.
We're going to read something in source
number seven. This is also something I
found this week.
Have you ever heard of Rav Mashash?
So you actually have two opportunities
cuz there were two of them. I mean, I'm
sure there's many more than two. One was
the chief rabbi of Haifa, and the other
was the chief rabbi of Yerushalayim.
Okay.
This one that we're going to read today
is of Yosef Messas.
They're both
rabbis from Morocco, both incredibly
independent. If you think that all
spider colossus begins and ends with
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, so here's your
opportunity to see a counter, a
different world. And Rabbi Yosef Messas
was particularly, really particularly
independent
and in terms of thought and and and
things that he said, again, really
really interesting. Over here, he
received a letter from another rabbi,
Rabbi Yaakov Ifargan, again, another
famous uh
family, rabbinic family. And he's asking
about coming to move to Israel
and possibility of finding a job in a
place, you know, how's this going to
work out? Now, this is This is I have no
date on this letter.
The letter before and afterwards I had I
found dates for. And if you any of you
um
looked online, if you still have the PDF
I sent you, I I I put a link there. You
can find the link You can link and and
go to the letter if you really wanted
to.
Right? Yeah, you So, you see it You see
it You see the There's a link there.
I I received a letter from the start of
my vocation. He goes, "I'm
very sorry about your lack of uh
of livelihood.
You know, you ask my advice here. It's a
no. You want to go to China. He wants to
come here to Israel.
That's not the way to Don't just come.
Rock by a vote
in the middle of a vote, Shavuot or
Shavuot in the year of the end of
Shavuot in the whole of today for the
sake of the Shavuot in the whole of
today for the sake of the Shavuot in the
whole of today for the sake of the
Shavuot in the whole of today for the
sake of the Shavuot in the whole So,
essentially, he told him, "Come on a
pilot trip. Come on a pilot trip, take a
look."
>> He writes, "While
Pirasti and I shall to the partial
because of the issue
to
this incredible question. Drink for
a moment to the ocean. The whole already
said that I went to the desert to
the ocean.
So now you all know what's coming.
He says, "We must
what I said now it works. I have to
go to the one to go to school
to go to rent out a place to live. They
went to find a home but I call a lawyer
when to find a place that he can put
down his tent.
Well, the king called to get everything
ready
and then he went back and he got his
wife. Which by the way is the exact
opposite of the
says God said and he went right away. He
packed up everything right away. Took
everything that he had because again is
reading dollar to together as if they
just said one thing and look how he
takes everything and goes and he's
saying hold it there's daylight between
and
and therefore it's not necessarily
speaking about the precisely the same
thing.
>> [clears throat]
>> I
gave you a bunch of the things that he
says here. I'm going to hold off on
for a moment and just fill in a couple
of other things and then we'll have
hopefully time to
end all of this properly.
And one of the reasons is because
approach or even this approach to
the okay talk about two different trips.
So the
sites this you have the now all the way
down in source 11 and I gave you a lot
of it and just know there's more of it
that I didn't give you.
And the
sites this and he doesn't like it. He
says,
"How can you say such a thing? How can
you talk about two different trips?"
And the one who he sites having said it
is the run who's in source number nine
which was a little bit harder to find.
It's not necessarily in our printed
editions as far as I can tell. I again I
may be wrong. I didn't check all the
bibliography. As far as I can tell, the
run was published only in 1968, which by
the way gives lots of people time to
have
found it since then. But, the run does
talk about two different trips that that
are being taken. Yeah.
>> So, where did this trip start from, the
run?
>> That that that's that's a good question,
and we'll have to get into
Again, the nuance of each one. Where
Bruer Now, we'll go backwards cuz say
Again, just to fill in all the space
over here, if I'm going to talk about
the two trips Dalet and Hay being
different, and with Mashash,
you know, he suggests this as if he just
came up with this.
I would have thought he could have
sought the Abarbanel, and also warn you
something about the Abarbanel. More
often than not, I'm sorry for saying
this, but more often than not, ideas
found in the Abarbanel
are found in old in older sources.
The Abarbanel is not terribly original.
It's And that was There were a lot of
books that did these kinds of things.
So, and then the Malbim also, I believe,
asked about Pasuk Dalet and Pasuk Kay.
But, the Abarbanel does quote this run.
Can clearly he had manuscripts, right?
Before the the printing press.
And he quotes this run. So, I presented
the run for you. And when you have time,
you look you'll look at the run, and
you'll see that the run does believe
that there was this
dual trip taking place. And he believes
that Pasuk Dalet and Pasuk Kay there's
another motivation for all of this,
which is something which on other
occasions I've gone into much more, and
that is
the quick quick math on this. Avram was
75 years old when they left when when he
left. I asked you before how old is he
when God spoke, and you know, you kind
of ignored that. The reason is that
something which is written in the Seder
Olam Rabbah. Did I include that for you?
What number?
So, number 10. Seder Olam, you'll see
Avram Avinu Hayu B'Shashim Shana. It's
very B'Shashim Shana U'V'Shnayim Ben
Shiv'im Shana. He when he years old by
the birth of Abraham.
So now you're going to say to me, what
in the world is he talking about? How
did he get He says it. This
Rashi brings this
in his commentary to the Chumash. If
you've never heard this before, I can
tell you I've seen a half a dozen
different Rishonim cite this. And
Why did One second.
Am I correct? A lot of you never heard
this never heard this. So, it's hard.
Where does it come from? Because it says
the ger is a chabur eretz lo lahem. Do
vi nutam, right? And so on. Avram
ochana.
So,
when do you start counting? When
Yitzchak is born. So, from the birth of
Yitzchak until Yitzchak Mitzrayim is 400
years. But, when they leave Egypt it
says at a duration of 430 years, even
after 30 years. Rashi on that pasuk
says, because from when Yitzchak was
born, you can start counting 400 ger
years are achah. Yitzchak is a stranger
in a in a land. Why do I say he's a
stranger? He can't find a shidduch in
the whole country. He has to go
someplace else to find a shidduch.
Right? Avram's a stranger in the land at
that point. Why? He can't find a place
to bury his wife. It's like the most
fundamental thing. You live in your
land, you find a place to bury someone.
There's no cemetery for them. You're a
stranger in this land. And I'll and I'll
continue. Yakov is a stranger. The whole
story with Dinah. I can go on and on.
They're strangers in a land which isn't
theirs. So, the 400 years begins at the
birth of Yitzchak. This will hold up.
Why 430? What's extra 30? So, Rashi says
he's quoting the Seder Olam. That's
where the Seder Olam comes from. It's
because it says the duration of 430
years. So, 30 years prior to Yitzchak
being born is when God said this. You
have a problem. What is your problem?
Your problem is is that Avram's only 75
when he leaves. So, now you see why some
people are motivated to have a second
time that Avram travels.
And by the way, it doesn't help. Why
doesn't help? Because the age of 75 was
written in pasuk dalet, not in pasuk
hey. If it were in pasuk hey, then I'd
be a little bit more convinced about
that too. But, that's part of what takes
place over here. That's part of where
the run is coming from. That's what the
rabbinical doesn't like.
How were you putting saying that I've
been traveled twice meaning it's a very
difficult argument. But again, I'll say
it again.
You want me to give you my hyper-zionist
interpretation? When God describes to
Avram the land, where is it from not
brought all the way to uh Mitrayim? So,
Avram could have been laying near in our
pride and God says I'm going to give you
this land.
Right? Forget about the West Bank.
Forget about the East Bank.
We're taking Iraq, right? So,
so we means once you realize the map
could be much longer. So, then God could
have promised him, you know, this land.
Again, we don't know exactly when all
this takes place. But the Seder Olam, if
you read through the whole section, the
whole the whole four kings and the five
kings and the war and when does that
take place in Avram's life? It's just
this whole restatement of everything
that you thought you knew about Avram's
life here in Midrash of Chazal. I want
to go back to Rav Breuer now and we'll
try to finish up for today.
Before we finish, you're going to have
to think of a title for today. Okay?
So,
Rav Breuer believes that Avraham was on
two different missions at once.
He was on the mission that God had sent
him on, but he's also continuing what
Terach had begun.
And he does not use the word secular
Zionist and he but
that's what I felt as I was reading him.
I I I felt as if that the footsteps of
Terach also seem to have some kind of
what we would call Ma'aseh Avot Siman
Banim. But by the way, part of the
tragedy there is an uncompleted mission.
It is the Jew who's on the way to Israel
but doesn't actually make it over here.
But Terach but but Avram does continue.
Again, it because
I see I wrote something about this. I
don't know if I uh
if I could find my exact line that I had
used.
Yeah, I wrote Avram must leave his
father's household to reach his father's
intended destination.
That that that that was the that was the
way that that right, I say that again.
Avram must leave his father's household
to reach his father's intended
destination.
Which means he he should not remain with
Terach settled, but he continues to go
with Terach meant to go.
Which means
that again, this is what Rashi brings
out that part of what he's doing is he's
continuing what his father had started
and God over here does something really
interesting by telling him to do what
his father had started to do. So, there
is some kind of chesed involved in that
as well. Although, admittedly, when
Avram's told to go, he's not told where
it is to go and he goes, but it
you can't help but realize that go Avram
listens. Avram, you know, as Kierkegaard
we have to throw Kierkegaard at some
point. This is this week and next week
is the night of faith. He goes and he
does what God told him to do. He packs
up and he goes with complete devotion,
complete belief. And at some point he
has this realization,
"Oh, I'm going to land of Canaan. That's
where my father was on the way. I'm
going to continue what my father had
started." Which means it's almost like
you can't avoid that at some point.
What's Terach's motivation? That's
really interesting.
But that Avram at some point is now on
this dual type of mission or mission
that accomplishes two different things.
On the one hand, doing what God told him
to do. On the other hand, doing what his
father had intended to do. As I said,
that that that then becomes a more
interesting and maybe it then causes us
to go back and to re-appreciate or
re-evaluate Terach because
Avram continues what Terach had started.
Does this necessarily help us with pasuk
dalet and pasuk hey? I don't know what
to tell you, but I did tell you that
that's what we were dealing with the
whole time today. It's how you
understand what is taking place and
therefore Terach becomes half of the
equation and Lot becomes the other half
of the equation. Separating from your
father's house is separating from
Terach, also separating from Lot. Going
where his father wanted to go. And now
you go back to Lot. Maybe Lot is going
to where his grandfather had wanted to
go. If I read in that motivation that
this was actually given by Shem to this
Sorry, given by Noach to the Shem
family, maybe Lot is going because he
thinks he's going to be able to inherit
it. He sees the reality of the land. Let
me go over to stone, you know, it's a
little these are my people. This is a
little better place for me to be. Again,
I'm going back and forth and I'm playing
with all of this and trying to figure
out what does these missions or dual
missions tell us about Terach, about
Lot, about Avram. So now again, you
realize what my job is, to take things
that were really simple that you knew
before I started and make them complex
and completely confuse you.
Shabbat Shalom. Next week Next week I'm
not here. I don't know what they're
doing instead.