Candace Owens Red Flags 🚩

Before her rhetoric became as clearly anti-Semitic as it is now, were there any red flags you saw in Candace Owens that should have alerted us? We had a few conversations, they were civil. Years ago, before all the Israel stuff. It's [snorts] one thing when somebody gets on a public podcast and they're a leftist and they have completely the opposite ideology of you politically, philosophically, and they make their case and they make it poorly. All right, I disregard it. But if somebody gets out there purporting to agree with you and hold the same philosophy of you like as a conservative and they do it poorly, you're like, wait a minute. So, I'll be specific. She was on an episode of Joe Rogan after she sort of blew up as this conservative pundit firebrand. And she starts talking about climate change, okay? And he goes, so so what are your thoughts on climate change? She goes, I I I just don't like believe in it like at all, like at all. I just don't like believe in it like at all. Now, I can tell you I have my skepticism about the whole climate change narrative from the left, but I read Alex Epstein and I read a lot of about the reasons why a lot of climate catastrophism is overblown. You can get into the weeds of those arguments, but she didn't have any of those arguments. She just adopted a point of view because that's what you're supposed to do now when you're team conservative. And I kind of saw her adopting a brand from a sort of parasitic standpoint, like I can use this conservative brand to build an audience. And before this, I was kind of a liberal and I did that. And initially, I used to dox people online for online bullying. Can you believe that? That's what she did before this. So, there was this pattern I saw. And I'm sure there were some issues she was certainly passionate about and maybe more informed about than others, but to adopt the whole thing without critical thinking, but just because it suits you in building an audience, that was one big red flag because she's on Joe Rogan just saying, I don't just like believe in it like at all, like at all. She couldn't say why. She couldn't have an honest discussion about it cuz she didn't want to feel like she was in abandoning what a conservative is supposed to say about climate change. And that's playing team sports tribalism. That's not having a consistent principled worldview. And it does a disservice to conservatives, not to liberals. The second red flag was probably the Kanye tweet where she goes, and I debated this with her. She kept saying, you know, okay, so he said, "Death con 3 on some Jewish people. Death con 3 on some Jewish people." So what? Like you don't know what he meant by that. You don't know what he meant by that. Let's just wait. You don't know what he meant by that. How do we know what he meant? Death con 3 on some Jewish people. And I kept thinking he didn't say some. >> [snorts] >> You keep saying some. And that's very different than Death con 3 on Jewish people versus Death con 3 on some Jewish people. So, it's at the smallest little minutia levels where there's a manipulation going on because there's a huge difference between on some Jewish people versus Jewish people. And I'm not making a mountain out of a molehill. It's very precise. It's very calculated to try to just use a manipulative tactic in talking about these things. And you're just not being an honest actor when talking about this because you want to defend a famous friend who said, "I like the way Candace Owens thinks." And I think years later, she likes the way Kanye West thinks. And if you get that kind of clout from a major celebrity, you're not going to let that go. And it tells me what motivates you and it's not principles and values. It's clout.