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HAFRASHAS CHALLAH - WHEN NOT INTENDING TO EAT

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Last week we spoke about the mitzvah of ARA, the mitzvah of Truma. If it's one mitzvah Russia to take off the dough and a to give it to the coen is it two mitzvah is it one mitzvah with two parts I would like to continue more in the mitzvah of and with we're not learning we're learning but he's a In the mitzvah of the says before the says about the mitzvah of you give the to bring into the house says a little bit more expanding on the mitzvah says that a person lives, he has to eat. A person lives by eating bread. The wanted to be mazak. We anyways have to eat and most people eat bread. At least it used to be like that. So the wanted to be maka that what we're doing anyways to make a mitzvah out of it. You find this concept in other places as well also gave a mitzvah of sim during anyways at the time of the year. But why is it mitzvah? Not just mitzvah says the makosvah that the mitzvah bring. We saw before in the to bring to bring into the house but he says to bring Here he focuses more that the issa should become also nephesh. The issa is a mus. The concept you also find the garra says the garra says Why do we bring the ones? Why? Because it's so says bring a carbon that there should be to do a mitzvah. It's also important to note. So the reason I want to continue a little bit more on being that like says is something that's common that a person does now became even more common with the whole people got into it. It's a beautiful thing. It's it's important to note that we're not the mitzvah. It's the mitzvah of is not a mitzvah. As a matter of fact in it's only a mitzvah when it's but it's for sure only to actually ask why do we take is just like we don't take so why do we take so says that looks a little bit like it's Why? You take paris off the tree. So these paras are you take truma. So we understand that these pis are mitzvah are the fruits of init. It looks it looks like it's something not from it's not dependent on because you make a dough therefore says like not to mistake and therefore the gave us a mitzvah. Others say the reason why gave us the mitzvah of even though it's a mitzvah based off this that we began that brings into a person's house. Therefore, the gave us this mitzvah to bring. So, I would like to continue today's sh on the mitzvah as we mentioned and we spoke about it last week. If it's one mitzvah, if it's two mitzvah, even if it's one mitzvah, the two parts in the two parts I want to focus today's shar on a shila that's very nega person wants a mai the mitzvah of he makes a dough he has the shir the biggest she has the shar the shila is he's not going to eat he's not going to eat the dough for an example a simple Simple example would be is that he he made I'll give a few examples. One example is is that he's making the dough. He's making bread for a If the dough belongs to the guy, then it's not even a sh but he owns it and he's making it for a guy. So what's the is you have a dough to be even if you're not gonna eat it or if you want to eat it for an example is a mitzvah but there's if you you want to eat chicken you want to eat meat then you it's a m is the same thing by the dough also if you want to eat the dough then you have to take you you have to be mafishal. You want to eat the bread, you have to be mafala. But if you're not going to eat it, you're selling it to a Then you don't have to be mafish. Another good example and it's tak also now with the kala bakes. So people come to bake and they want to be part of it. For whatever reason, they couldn't make the dough. So there's an option. And there's a service you could pay. You pay for a dough. You come there, you get you have a dough. So it's what's the shila? Sometimes they the dough is there to be and you're not even using the dough afterwards. Of course, sometimes you give the dough to somebody else. Somebody else will use it. But sometimes it's not used. You leave it there. If no one uh it's a regular dough and everybody only wants sour dough, it's not going to be used. Could you be mafish? Could you be mafala? If the mitzvah is you have a to be it could be but if it's only a m which means you're going to be maf you you want to eat it. So if you want to eat it, you take you be your mafishu is good that it's even if you're not going to end up eating it, if you you you plan on eating it can be mafish just like a person and then something came up and he wasn't able to process the meat and it got spoiled sheh did it to eat. If a person let's say has a dough and he's going to eat it and he's and he puts it into the oven and all burnt and you can't eat it. So there it's not a sh of he was mafish. He did it as he was m to be able to eat it. He made the and then it got the got thrown out made it to eat. I don't think over there would be a shah that it's a bro of because he was mafish to eat he used it as a m but the shil is let's say he's clearly not gonna he's clearly not using it clearly not using it another example is sometimes as an activity you make dough with the kids to teach them how to make kala to use it as like play-doh that dough is not being eaten it's play-doh fell on the floor got dirty made these a could you be >> what say >> but when I'm saying to be maf I mean to say the person made a dough what say >> let's say these she made it the dough unless she does it >> yeah but that very good. If let's say a moa makes a dough, she brings it to her class for everybody. But no, not that everyone makes it and they take it home. Sometimes you have that also and then you bake it. So then it's a regular dough if it has the shear. She brings it to the play group and they play and they make those a and a hair and a hair and a and it falls on the floor and it's dirty and by the end of the day it's done. They throw it out. Is could you take could you take is the only to be m to eat? If you're not going to eat it, if the one who made the but if it's not being eaten is the garra says It's which means if you're using the dough just to play or you're not eating it when it means but if you're using the dough a person gets a dough by to be mafish and after she's the end of the dough that's not Rashi says if you eat isn't part of the purpose to teach people what to do. Shouldn't you be doing it just because of that? >> So it's very nice. He's saying by to teach it brings out the importance of the mitzvah of it's the of the mitzvah. But at the end of the day if the mitz you can only be mine the mitzvah if you're going to eat it. So if you have a you could have a kala bake with 40 ladies and they provide everybody with a dough and a mafish and then at the end the dough gets thrown out. I'm not going into the but I'm saying in the mitzvah of if the mitzvah is only like says only if you're gonna eat it if it gets thrown out it's being thrown out so then it's not it's not a mitzvah no is also >> oh so that's a sh very good how much of the five pounds how much of the from the the dough do you have to eat I don't know if you have to eat the whole thing but it's you say you want to know if you have to the whole thing is what's if only you're going to make part of it part you're going to bake and part you're not going to use I don't know in that's his second edition that he added on He asks on the taz from this rashi. The sima says the T says that even if you don't want to eat it, even if you're not gonna eat it, he's still not like muzza. A person builds a house. No one's living in the house. Says even if you're not going to eat it, the So says only if you're going to eat it. the the last word in the taz says. So what does a mean dying? Does he mean that as of now you're not planning on eating it or means that you're not you're not you're not eating it now but you're going to eat it in a week. It's not clear from the when he says When he says doesn't mean as of right now he's not planning on eating it or dying means he's not planning on eating it now but he's going to eat it in a week also understands the tazer is right there in sim understands the taz as well that the taz says that of even if you're not going to eat it. So yes if there's a bake or dough is made just to play with. Yes. A person makes a dough once it's the of and argues. He says only of only if you're going to eat it. The imbina asks, "Why doesn't bring the rashi?" Rashi says clearly mafur only if you're going to eat it. beggar brings that what he says that there's only to be only if you're planning on eating the the bread. He says that it's a says that a person makes a says you make a why what's the difference that you make a when you're standing you have to make a that the capac that you don't have moment as refract what's the difference between and answers the difference is only a matter like he says a m meaning to say you want to eat chicken you want to eat meat you cannot eat it only with So m to be able to eat the chicken to be able to eat the meat. It's a matter also is a m it's a m to be able to eat the dough. meaning to say from the when you it's not a you have a dough you go on your mitzvah it's it's a m just like that you should go and the goat mitzvah it's a mitzvah but it's only a m if you want meat you want chicken you go on your she says the moan have is the same thing. You want to be able to eat the dough for that. It's a m to be to be mafish. It's a matter. That's why he says the you could do it even while sitting as opposed to if you have conf it's not just a to be able to wear a bag says from this you see like what I'm saying that you only to be if you're gonna eat misa Misa from this moav it's lava aria not like the taz first of all of course the taz could be on the moanav but this says my concept you see in the moanav again why because the moanav says that being mafala is a matter and the definition of a matter means If you want to eat the kala, you have to be mafish. If you want to eat the bread, you have to be mafisha. You could be mash that even the taz that holds that to take off even even if you don't want to eat it. You could understand that the taz will agree that is a m it's a m it's taka m. However, the m you have to do it a what it does is it's m the dough but even if you're not going to eat it just because it's a m doesn't mean that you could only do it when you when you want to be m it the way the mechanism is is that when you take dough it's a m but even if you don't take off the even if you're not going to eat it and you don't need the m you could still be the point of M is is that it's call it a lower level mitzvah and that's why you could you could do the mitzvah even behind could be it's just not practical. It's not >> what it say. >> No. So that's what the says that it doesn't have to be. It's a ma could be have to look up what to sit in the right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could you sit down? You mean >> No, no, no. To sit doesn't mean that you have to sit. You're allowed to sit. >> No. No. You're allowed to sit. the sh the so that's what the says my that it's a that you sit to stand you allow to sit so you know why you could sit because that it's a m it's a male that's a let me read it's not a long the word of the when the You don't have to sit, but you're allowed to sit. I haven't yet seen somebody being sitting. It's not that you're to sit, but you're allowed to sit. Even more understood, which means you're only mafish if you're going to eat. But you could say you're mafish even if you're not going to eat. But the whole mitzvah only comes to be a matter. So we have over here and this is what we began. He spoke about a shila. If a person has a dough that he's not going to eat the dough he's going to give it to a He's gonna use the dough just to play with. He wants to He wants to He's not gonna eat. Are you could you take you could do you could take do whatever you want but could you be with a you have just to conclude the brings to ras like the even even if you're not going to eat it first of all he brings that rash says that a person is by a frost. If it's only if you're going to eat it, how could you be? If you're going to eat it and if you're not going to eat it, so then you're not. So how could you be? Oh, you're right. It's on. So why? So once you are ready, whether if you're going to eat it or not going to eat it, that's a separate mitzvah. So, Lisa, I just you because you brought it up. It's a schmoo for itself. I I didn't have clarity wants to be this shila in what we spoke last week. If it's one mitzvah, two mitzvah, we could speak about it more afterwards. And the imbina says the complete opposite plea of what wants to say, but alapon that's a discussion for itself. If it would be to if it's one mitzvah of two mitzvah would be a if it's a or not one more brings us from the ra the says the reason why you make the and not because is not it's a m but then when it comes to that of over there that you make that it's a Dr. from the Rambam you see like the so to conclude to be we have over here if there's a mitzvah to be mafisha if you're not going to eat the kala meaning to say is is there a mitzvah to be mafish even if you're not going to eat it or only if you're going to eat it have a wonderful shabas It brings