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Bitachon 284 - Minimal or NO Efforts
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We continue our discussion of the opinion that one is required to do minimal efforts, which we previously attributed to the Ramban. This time we see that the Ramban seems to say NO efforts are required. We discuss the resolution of this seeming contradiction.
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You're listening to the 284th edition of
the B'tachon podcast.
And we just quoted the sheet of the
Ramban.
Which Rav Dovid Rosen says
is that
one should put in minimal hishtadlus,
some kind of efforts,
but not go too far with them.
Now, if you've been following our
podcast for a few years, you may recall,
and that's going to be the next point
that he discusses,
that the Madreigas Adam, the Alter of
Novardok, in speaking about B'tachon
without any hishtadlus, without any
efforts,
he quotes the Ramban.
He quotes Nachmanides.
So, we just said that the Ramban says
you need to do minimal efforts.
But the Madreigas Adam, and we'll see
it's also Rebbi Yisrael Salanter, who
says that the Ramban says himself
that you don't need to do any efforts.
So, let's see
how we can understand this.
If you have shaat Rebbi Yisrael
Salanter tzal Kodesh zatzal,
she yesh sham shnei suggei B'tachon.
We find that Rebbi Yisrael Salanter,
who was the
uh first
the first person to really bring to the
Jewish people the concept of Mussar of
character refinement
as a concerted study.
So, Rebbi Yisrael Salanter says that
there are two types of B'tachon. Achad
shel haRamban.
The first is
of the Ramban.
L'hashlich al Hashem yahavav b'li shum
sibah. He says that the Ramban says that
one is to throw one's package onto God
without any personal efforts.
U'mah she darshu razal b'Rappei yarpei.
And that which our sages
say in regards to the verse, the pasuk
says
that there is a
there's an obligation to cure somebody.
Hainu she nitan b'reshus l'Rappei
yarpei. Which means to say that a doctor
has permission.
You're allowed to go to a doctor. Why
should I go to a doctor? If I believe in
spiritual salvation,
if I believe that God can and will do
everything for me,
so why do I need to go to a doctor?
So when the positive says
that one is indeed to go to a doctor, it
means that there's permission. You're
allowed to go to a doctor, even though
really you shouldn't.
Really it shouldn't be necessary. We
either or really person shouldn't be
allowed to perhaps because one should
rely on Hashem.
So a regular person has a right or
permission, we could say, to go to a
doctor, but a person who's really trying
to serve Hashem properly, so then
that person doesn't doesn't need to go
to a doctor. He's not allowed to go to a
doctor.
It's not appropriate for that person to
go to a doctor at all.
Don't seek out any kind of natural
solutions.
Or the day
>> [snorts]
>> as Rebbe Salanter understands
him, when it comes to a person's
parnassah, you also don't need to do
anything.
Just trusting God.
So that's Rebbe Salanter's what
the the first type of bitachon.
But Rebbe Salanter talks about a
second type of bitachon, which is
what we refer to as the shittah.
Where a person has bitachon, but also
alongside that puts in efforts.
He says
that we can reconcile these two opinions
and say that they're both true.
We find
that in our sages
there is an argument between Tanaim,
which means we're talking 2,000 years
ago.
In the chapter because of the one who
brought this, we have something to go on
here.
The verse says
that you shall bring in your grains.
So, Rabbi Shimon Sheeta is
that
we are to do regular things, put in
regular efforts to take care of our
parnassah, to take care of our
livelihood.
Gather in the grains.
Famously Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai says
If a person is constantly involved in
all the things that it takes to get his
livelihood
doing the doing the threshing of the the
ground, doing the planting of the seeds
when will he have time to learn? When
will he have time for his spirituality,
for service of God?
When a person does what they're supposed
to do
then the person's work is done by
others.
If I am focused completely on
spirituality
I don't have to think about my
parnassah. Someone else, as it were
is going to provide for me. He has many
shluchim, he has many messengers.
Or Abaye
Abaye says in that Gemara "Harbei asu
k'Rabbi Shimon, v'lo alsa b'yadam." Many
did like Rabbi Shimon, which was to
indeed
put in physical efforts into the in you
know
gathering in your
your grains.
Right? Alongside the talking of course.
And they succeeded.
Many
tried to do what Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai
prescribed
which was to completely rely on God
completely focus on spirituality
and it didn't work out well for them.
That this is specifically when too many
people all at once
if the general populace will try to
lead their lives like Rabbi Shimon bar
Yochai.
It is the direction of the hidden. It's
not something that can be done by the
general populace. Only individuals can
do this.
And by the way, as I recall my Rosh
Yeshiva Pesach saying, when the Maggid
of Salonika was speaking, the Alter of
Novardok,
so he was speaking to his students. He
was speaking to the Yechidei Segulah,
those who
merited to be from amongst those who
were chosen by God to serve him. So, in
such a case,
you don't need to do any efforts.
Namely, such a Yechidei Segulah value
relies on the Bitochon of the Ramban,
Kidas Shimon bar Yochai.
As the Vilna Gaon explains,
those
who are Yechidei Segulah, special
uh special unique ones,
so they should have Bitochon like the
Ramban,
who says in the Shita of Rabbi Shimon
bar Yochai, don't do any efforts.
The words of the Chofetz Chaim are among
the general populace, Kidas Rabbi
Yishmael.
And
the words of the Chofetz Chaim,
which
encourage a person indeed to do efforts
alongside one's Bitochon, so that's
going according to the first opinion in
the Gemara, which is Rabbi Yishmael.
That's the general populace.
Now, that's how Rabbi Yisrael Salanter
explains the seeming contradiction
between the two Shitas, the two
understandings of the Chofetz Chaim and
the Ramban.
What emerges or comes out of this whole
matter is that the Shita of the Ramban
he talks about the lack of Hishtadlus.
We seem to be saying here,
in contradiction to what we said last
week, we seem to be saying here that the
Ramban holds that you don't need to put
in any efforts, or you shouldn't.
The understanding of the Ramban he after
all is for the Yechidei Segulah. But we
also understand that he's talking about
individuals,
special individuals. The Shita of Rabbi
Shimon bar Yochai
and he holds like Rabbi Shimon bar
Yochai.
However, this study is arguing.
It would seem, says Rabbi Dovid Rosen in
the Sefer Bitochon Hashem, that this
requires understanding and depth.
So the Sefer Emunah u'Bitochon of the
Ramban is a classic.
We find that the Ramban himself has a
book called Emunah Bitachon.
It's an essay where he speaks about
Emunah Bitachon at length.
And
he writes on the possuk Bitach Ba'Hashem
V'Asei Tov Ertez V'Hitya'aleem Emunah.
Trust in Hashem and do good.
Dwell in the land and be a shepherd of
faith.
Shkon Ertez R'Tzo L'Omar
When it says in the possuk dwell in the
land, it means to say Im Kol Zeh
She'Yesh Lo Chuvah V'Tzrichah B'Achrayus
Mitzvos Al Taniach Yadecha.
He says that even if you're involved
in fulfillment of the commandments,
you are involved in doing Chuvah, in
returning to God,
spiritual person,
but don't
forget about your physical reality.
D'Ova She'Tachlis B'Zeh Gam Mizeh Al
Taniach Yadecha.
He brings the possuk in Koheles in
Ecclesiastes which says
hold on to both.
You got to do both. Be spiritual and
also take care of your physical needs.
V'Zeh Oodas Rabbi Shmuel and he says
that's the opinion of Rabbi Shmuel. So
clearly
>> [sighs]
>> V'Eema Chayei D'Avichan D'Rabbi Abaye
Harbei Oso V'Chulai. The Ramban brings
this this argument which we quoted in
the Gemara in Brachos as well as the
words of Abaye which say
that many tried to do like like Rabbi
Shmuel Chaim were unable to.
Many tried to do like Rabbi Shmuel and
they were able.
Im Kein Keitzad Neimar She'Yesh Lanu
Shnei Sugim B'Bitachon D'Ramban B'Eish
Tzad Zeh V'Shulchan Aruch M'Shum Zeh
M'Shum Zeh. So, how can we say that
there's two types of Bitachon, one with
efforts, one without efforts?
V'Eilu V'Eilu Divrei Elokim Chaim Shmuel
V'Tzanu Choli Sanu M'Shum Rabbi Chaim
Zeh Omed K'Rabbi Shmuel Chaim. You're
telling me we just said before
earlier in this podcast that the Ramban
is consistent with the with the Shita,
the opinion of Rabbi Shmuel Chaim. You
don't need to do any efforts.
The Chofetz Chaim argues.
But you see that the Ramban explicitly
says like Rabbi Shmuel which
is the first understanding in the
Gemara, which means that you need to
indeed put in efforts. So, the Ramban is
a contradiction you know a
So, the Ramban himself seems to contain
a contradiction
according to the way that we're saying.
So, he says like this.
When Rabbi Yisrael Salanter says
that the Ramban holds that when it comes
to be talking
you don't put in any efforts
I'll pose it. So, he is actually quoting
or directing
our thoughts to our intention and our
focus to what the Ramban says in Parshas
Bechukotai
on the possuk
the verse says
I shall place my
my Mishkan
my dwelling place amongst you.
So
there on that possuk the Ramban says why
would a person go to a doctor?
If you believe that God is with you so
you don't need to go to a doctor.
You shouldn't go to a doctor.
I'm going to bless your bread. I'm going
to bless your waters. I'm going to
remove any sicknesses from amongst you.
So, that's indicating a supernatural
removal of any problems.
And a supernatural providing of one's
sustenance as well.
>> [gasps]
>> So, those who do Hashem's will
they don't have to have any attachment
to any connection with with doctors
cuz
they depend on the promise of the possuk
which says that Hashem is going to
remove any any
any sicknesses from our midst.
But the Ramban
indicates
that this is something which today we
can't really relate to.
Most people cannot depend on this type
of promise.
A cloud is like this.
The cloud is well
are in a state of spiritual greatness or
spiritual perfection
if you prefer.
The cloud is well is in
the right spiritual state, so then
there's no nature with them at all.
If most of cloud is well is doing what
we're supposed to do
physically
and in their land, you don't have to
have an army. If we're doing what we're
supposed to do spiritually, we're on
that level.
Not
generally and not any individuals.
Because Hashem will bless their bread
and their water and remove
any sickness from their midst.
You won't need any doctors.
If we are sufficiently connected
spiritually,
naturally everything is fine.
But as regards the state of the Jewish
people today,
maybe our Ramban is a Gamara.
The Ramban brings the Gamara that the
children of Adam are not able to
Ramban says in the Gamara that it's not
the way
really
of human beings to be able to cure.
But that's what we do.
That's why we go to doctors.
Because of our Gamara so
he writes about this Gamara that if you
If things were different than it seems
to be today, so a person would get sick
because he's sinned.
Meaning the physical reality
is a mirror of the spiritual reality.
If I've done something wrong to
disconnect myself from Hashem, so my
physical body, heaven forbid,
can become sick.
And if Hashem wants me to become well,
if I do chuvah, if I repair the
spiritual damage, my physical the
physical damage will be repaired.
So Ramban says that since we do get
involved with the physical aspects and
we do go to doctors, so Hashem leaves
it, as it were,
lets nature take its course. And
therefore, can go to a doctor. Doctor
can help cuz we're talking about natural
things. Now, we kind of disassociate
with the spiritual reality and therefore
the physical reality has become
disconnected from the spiritual reality.
We can understand that this is really
not the ideal situation. It comes from a
weakness
of the general populace.
There's always going to be
those who are a
a that are distinct from the rest of the
Jewish people, as it were, in this
regard.
Hashem
calls to them
about which
This is how the righteous would do
things in times of prophecy.
Even when a person would do a sin
and they would become sick
and it would be kind of clear, I guess,
that that was the result of that. They
wouldn't go to doctors. At that point,
they would go to the prophet. They would
go to the navi.
So, when a person
their ways are desired by Hashem, when
Hashem is happy with who they are and
what they're doing, meaning in a high
spiritual level,
so then
they don't need to go to doctors. They
don't have a right to go to a doctor.
>> Okay, so we see the Ramban says two
different things.
We can deduce here that from the Ramban
himself
as follows to the world of others
that the Ramban when he speaks about
not putting in efforts
which he talks about in the context of
not going to a doctor.
That's something that only applies today
to those who are special individuals who
have a special relationship with Hashem
and Hashem continues to go with them as
it was in previous generations when Jew
when the Jewish people as a whole was at
a higher level.
These individuals are indeed are on that
level.
We talking image toddlers.
But the general populace, which means
you and me
the regular pop population, we do go to
doctors
and we do involve ourselves in normal
efforts.
Again, not out of hand. We minimize the
efforts.
We don't need to see 10 different
doctors for sick cuz we shall not.
But he finishes off with talking that
the mice so we need to understand this
better.
And
in the next section he's going to get
involved more
in the context that we'll be talking
without his toddlers, but I'd like to
just sum up. We had a lot of information
here. I'd like to just sum up where we
are.
That the the bottom line is that
there are those indeed who are on a
higher spiritual level and they can
have you talking they can have faith
without putting in efforts. There are
those of us who are on let's call it the
medium level.
We're striving for me talking we're
striving for relationship with Hashem
we're we're striving for person uh for
spirituality.
And therefore
we minimize our bitachon.
So, we minimize I have to be careful
what how I say it. We minimize our
efforts and we maximize our bitachon.
We make sure to have full bitachon. We
make sure we're not overdoing the
hishtadlus, putting in too much efforts.
Thank you so much for listening. We'll
see you again next time.