CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 11 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] [screaming] little for 200 people. All right. All right. We're holding like I would say eight lines from where becomes wide. We're dealing with aar person has a donkey who gave birth to its very first child. It's a boy. You have to be paid. You have to redeem it. Is the donkey until you redeem it. So says not awesome. Then we're dealing with what happens after you decide not to redeem it. You're not going to redeem it. It's not worth much here in today. Not worth much. Worth $50, $100. Why would you waste a sheep that cost $500 on something cost $100? You're not going to redeem it. What do you do? You take the chopper and chop chop done. Is it? So, we saw says that according to it goes from being when it's alive when it's dead. another sheet that says where do I see this says the it says by the it also says by this one I'll just show it quickly the wants to see it real quick I'm going to blame everything on the today all my jokes I said today. Okay. Rufa, they found the body. They don't know which city belongs. So they measure and so we know that the Rufa is so too great. And who does it go according to? So think to yourself for a second. What could be the answer to this? According to it's when the animal's alive. So it's so think for a second. It's But does it have any value? It's also usually something that's has zero value. Can't sell it. Does this donkey have any value even though it's think? Yes, it has value. Why? Because you can redeem it. But the doesn't say that right now. It's already when it's alive to use it when it's alive. So that's why the puzzle comes along and says he should know that when it's dead it's your friend explained it. No, it goes like rebut that says that when the animal the donkey is alive it's nevertheless I need a limo to tell me that when it's dead it's also you could you have two options either you redeem it with a sheep or its value or you chop off its head. But when you redeem it for money or a sheep you get to use the donkey. So too mater just like when you redeem it it becomes mut. So too when you chop off its head it's makes the the the donkey mut that's why I need the you're right that it's also know when it's alive but I would think that when it's dead it should become how do I know that according to it's also after you chop off its heady says who we're going to punish him we're going to do he refused to give the donkey the the the sheep to the cen. Therefore, we're going to make him lose his money. What's his money? His donkey. He tried to make you the lose money. We're going to make him lose money. Now, wait a minute. According to he's already lost. He's in a losing position. He can't use it. It's so what do you do? It's beforehand and you're going to go and make it afterwards. You didn't do anything. You didn't give him a punishment. rib who holds that you lad use the donkey it's he also holds that after you chop off its head it's so that changes when it's alive after it's dead says no no no and that's the we brought out before you could even say that goes it's not true how much is donkey worth in those days $1,000 that's their car, that's their truck. It's worth a,000. How much is a little sheep worth? 500. Let's say so you're right. You're not allowed to use it now. But if I redeem it with a $500 sheep, then I get to keep the other $500 difference. The difference I could say goes according to what it's before it dies and it's after it dies. So what's the punishment? It's just tremendous punishment. Before it was alive, it was worth $1,000. And now it's dead and it's worth how much? $10. What can you do with a dead donkey? You can feed it to your dog. Okay. So, that was the punishment because you didn't give it to I'm going to punish you and chop off its head. So, now it's worth less. Okay. So, let's wrap it up. Says you're allowed to use the donkey when it's alive, holds, and when it's dead. However, says it's still okay. In other words holds when it's dead it's still and some say that this about holding that it's when it's alive when it's dead is on something else that what you go to a woman and you tell her with so something's wrong with you to begin with using donkey for your wife now why not why Why doesn't it have value? Holds that a donkey has value. Why can't you use a donkey? Because talking about the donkey is dead. So next time you take a donkey with a dead donkey. Imagine with a dead donkey. What a I mean she should right away. There's a problem here. But some say that this guy that's with it doesn't go not like what's the problem? There's a lot of value. Why doesn't this have value? It's worth $1,000 in the market. You're right. They have to be for 500. So there's a $500 difference. Still worth 500. You hear the donkey is worthless. The only thing you can do with the donkey give rides on. That's about it. Besides that, what are you going to do? Someone gives you a donkey. What are you going to do with it? Done. It's worth one shekel. So, and he holds that the the sheep also has to be worth a shekel. There's no beta ba over here. If the sheep could be worth a half a shekel, great. So, you got a half a shekel difference. But the donkey is only worth one shekel. The sheep must be worth at least a shekel. So you're redeeming a forke. Nothing's left in your pocket. What are you giving this woman when you're here's the And then in it says again why twice how long do you have to wait to do a ben on your son? How long are 30 days for you don't have to wait 30 days. Do it right away. And you could even redeem with something that has very little value, almost nothing. That's one. No, there's a minimum. It has to be worth at least. Now, we're going to go into what we just learned. You can do right away on the first day. It doesn't have to have any value. You could be with a with a needle. Why would I think you have to wait 30 days? Where do you see that are the same that's in the same you have to wait at least 30 days to redeem and you have to use five so I would think that you have to wait 30 days and redeem him with five at least you don't have to wait at You don't have to spend five. I need at least the ask where did you get the shekele from if it's similar to a human being you need five how much is five today how much we say two 300 bucks and after you do the it's worth 50,000 and if you don't compare it to a human being why says there's no anytime time you do a redemption use at least a shekele there's a minimum shekele here's right here's the chart if let's say a person is between 20 and 60 years old and he's male he has to pay 50 shekele and something else this explain to the what who is where we got it from it's it's a character mish from shas all all the characteristics of upon him between 2060. guy says he says my value on me now my value what's my value my value a person he's in low low bracket in Brazil very low bracket so what do we so we're actually not going to charge him the 60 the 50 we're going to say we're going to evaluate him but there's a minimum the minimum is and that's what the comes to tell you top line I want you to remember this because we're going to I have it in in 3 minutes. What's the like that what that the value of redemption to redeem a donkey? You don't have to have the big nothing one nothing a penny that's not a penny a very very skinny animal worth a sixth. So even we learned that it could be a large one could be a small one small doesn't say how small very small when it says means even a little tiny one no less than this shish of six of is not okay you want to do a a small sheep not a a skinny uh what do they What do they say? That what you could uh you could do even a situation. You had a you had a donkey of firstborn repar if you're a large guy you give you know you're always large with everybody you have to deal with how much is a seller four four if you're a stingy person no so what's in between four and two three benis berigio so it's a word I never saw report or I think I didn't see it only only on his death twice. Okay. Yeah. It's not something familiar. Three that is what's three. It's close to the which is four. Three is close to four is close to the two. Three is close to two. bottom. If you paid attention, I told you to remember two lines from the top it says the top line it says and all of a sudden now you tell me is three. Make up your mind or three if you go ask how much should I give. So they're going to tell you you have to give three you do it by yourself. I'm not saying you should go ask the robe. Of course, just it's still a it's a it's a kickback. Exactly. Just to to to bring out the the the idea. If you you're one of these people, don't ask questions. You don't go to him. Okay. So, we're not going to force you afterwards to pull out of your pocket another two. You did what? Okay. Also, he doesn't have a sheep. He uses he can use the value of the donkey. Whatever the value is, that's what he uses. We know we passing like, right? We're going to see in a second. The Torah says, "No, only a sheep. You can't use anything else." Now, it's interesting. Who's rebud is the one that says that a a donkey is it? It ties in somehow. It's also so you can only use a sheep equals I can use anything else. They go hand in hand. So it must be it goes according to that what says it goes like this had a question when you have both them up against each other. No, no, no. We're passing and seems like that. But you you're telling me that you can use anything of course the whole you allowed to use anything including how how you with money. So too when it comes to you can use money. So why does the Torah use the word sheep? It's not to make your life easier that what that if you have a sheep you get out easy. If your sheep is worth, let's say you have a one of these expensive donkeys worth $100,000, you can use a simple sheep that cost $500 and get out of it. But if you don't have a sheep, it's going to cost you $100,000 in the opinion. He would take some grass, cook it up and give it to the kayen. Here's your grass. It's one of these uh things. Everybody I've never been to be part of it. So they're doing a all the people show up. All the money is raised and they start dressing up the kamar with the fancy clothing, the MDY sacks, the the They bring in the the sheep. Me. One of the guys was very very upset at the the guy, the coordinator and he stands up in front of everybody and he takes $500 out of his pocket. He looks at Rabbi Schoberg, whatever the kind over there, Alex. He says, "Alex, I'm giving you this 500 bucks to be to redeem that donkey on the stage. Show me." That was the whole story. So you're looking at me saying, "Wait, you're in the audience. You didn't buy the donkey. It's not yours." Garnished. That's a happened. No. What's we see that doesn't work in Truma? Look in Tes for a second. Ty says, "So in when it comes to Truma, you have no right to do that." doesn't say the word nothing to do with I could go at least fans I could go ruin the whole guys and all the hundreds of thousand dollars that the guy raised and the whole thing and the years that he worked garnish in the toilet says I go ahead and I redeem the donkey of my friend it doesn't say the word bum it works But listen to this. This is going to drive you crazy. After you finish doing it, you redeemed the donkey. Now I want to take the donkey home. I go [laughter] the donkey from the guy. Excuse me. It's my donkey now. I did the redemption. Now it's mine. It's like it's a question. Does the donkey go to this? I don't know what to call him. Or perhaps the guy gets to keep the owner, original owner that worked for two years to get this donkey, he gets to keep it. Says the original owner could ride the donkey, do whatever he wants. It's considered his. He just so of course it remains by the original guy. According to review that says that oh maybe it's comes somebody along and the it's whoever whoever redeems becomes his whoever gives the money to redeem it becomes his like we discussed many times there's that in between the money the difference the value between the sheep and the donkey there's value there even when it's al there's still value to the owner Let me prove it to you. Somebody steals a donkey. He's a regular. He has to pay double. Like a regular pays double. Even though you don't have permission to use the donkey at all. Tomorrow after you redeem it, you'll have permission to use it. MMA law is asking why are you gone? Why should you pay double? You don't. The owner has no right to use it. He didn't steal anything from him. You're right. Today he didn't have the right to use it, but tomorrow after he redeems it'll be his 100%. You stole that whatever that is. Pay double. That is Zika. It's just a a problem in in in uh it's a technical problem. The the the animal is away on vacation, so I can't use it right now. Tomorrow when I redeem it, I'll be able to use it. So you stole that animal from me. You pay careful. money who who does it go according to according to allow to use it right now. So what's the question? Of course you have to pay double is beautiful. It goes like that says you cannot use it right now. And if you want to compare this donkey to you don't you never pay careful when you stealish. If it's mish likedish it's not what is it? It's the owners. Ah, it's the owners. That's our raya that it goes back to the owner and not to the guy that redeemed it. This is such a powerful riyah that I don't have to discuss this any longer. Bikra we had a great Mishna that what you have a suffic of you have one animal that gave birth before one didn't give birth there what do you do now you take a you take a you put on the side you put on the side a you put on the side you don't give it to anybody who you give it to yourself so it says at the end of the Mishna that you can use this suffet guy this sheep again you don't Oh, do you have to give a bakar or you don't know if the it's a real bkar? Maybe a female was born first. Maybe it's a boy. You don't know whatever the story is. So, you put a sheep on the side and you can use it as one of the 10 of messer. What's messer? Anytime you have 10 animals, 10 newborns, you have to put them through the gate. The 10th one is messer. So, says the ton. What is the case? We have to understand if the sheep went to the cen, that's it. You're done. Let's say you have nine animals. You have nine animals, but you want to be mim the mitzvah of of messer. Could you go to the store and buy a 10th animal? No. It has to be born in your house. It has to be 10 of your animals. If you gave this animal to that's it. It's off the list. You can't use it anymore. So, what happened there? How do you have with this animal that you used as a sufficient? can't say it didn't come to the we learned anything that was given or you bought or was given to you as a gift. It's not it's not included in one of the 10. So it's talking about we're talking about who had 10 of these guys 10 suffic. So what do you do if you have if you have 10 donkeys newborns you're running a whole farm 10 of them you don't know if they're firstborn not you didn't keep what do you do you set aside 10 of these sheep but you get to keep it what do you get to keep how much think about it micer micer one out of 10 goes to the ken so what do you get to keep over here you get to keep nine Nine out of the 10 these struggles to the co. Listen to this. What if the guy [snorts] sets aside 10 sheep and then he dies? Who yim? A cayenne. His grandson is a cayenne. His daughter married a cayenne. Boom. Now what do you do? The grandfather was supposed to give these 10 sheep, do something with them. He never got around to it. He got sick, died, goes to the cen. Now, I'll make it even more interesting. The cayenne, the cayenne, he didn't get around to it. He died. And who yaned him? His grandson. His grandson happens to be Israel. Isl the this video is coming out just to explain. That's galdic mish. I It's not even the gumar yet. I'm just excited to talk about this video. I'm getting so says I'll show you last if you have 10 donkeys that you don't know if they're firstborns or not saying you take away you put aside 10 sheep and you take meer one the nine remains his the one goes to the coin. Now listen to this. Show you last story. This guy is a collector. He's infatuated with this mitzvah. He wants to do 10 of them, but he's all fake. He's all mixed up. Sorry. Where did he get them from? He's Israel. He got it from his grandfather who happens to be a cayenne. His grandfather's a cayenne. Had he done this whole thing, he really doesn't have to do it. But in this case, he does. He would have to do. You get to keep all the sheep to himself because he's a Why does his grandfather have to do? A doesn't have to do because Is the grandfather the Cen also had a grandfather is so Islam inherited his kayen grandson. Co grandson at this point would have to do. Why? Because it comes from Isra have to do but he would get to keep all the sheep to himself. But he dies and then he gives it over to his grandson Israel. The Israel now has to do the but does he could he keep the sheep or not? That's a great question. Could he keep the sheep to himself? Why? Came from his grandfather. His grandfather didn't do it. The answer is he could do it. So let's see inside the great greatgrandfather. This mice could only have been to your shami. Right. when he was 10 years old, he got married and had a kid and the kids the whole thing because they're all like the is still alive from the top all the way down to the bottom. Okay, same master. So what do you do? So the guy he takes the the final guy in the he does have to do the the whole thing but he gets to keep it. Why? Because his grandfather was able to keep it because his grandmother's the same exact but with fruit. What's I'm just going to continue because we're late over here. You can watch this if you want. Oh, in our in our garam. You can see it over here in one picture, but it's more interesting video to shmear the top to straighten out the top. and he got it from his grandfather. So his grandfather wouldn't have to take but his grandfather did have to take. Why? Cuz he got it from his great great grandfather. So all you do is you take and it becomes yours. So why do they need two cases? A case about donkeys and a case about fruit. I talk about donkeys mish. It's not mafi these these sheep already set aside for this. So may it's as if it was already done. If it's already done you get to keep it. It's as if your grandfather already did that. And I would think that since the grandfather didn't separate the on the side. So it's not as if it's taken a no it's as it doesn't matter if he didn't take it. It's as if he took it. And if you just say the case by fruit, where are you getting all your trims and from the same pile? It's right here. It's mish in here. So it's as if it's done already. But how do you do a you have to go to the farm, buy 10 sheep. It's a whole process. So it's not as if it was done. If you buy So is going to explain right away what this means. I'm going to do I'm going to do the turning of the D. Thank you. If you buy You wanted to say it, say it. Be my guest. If you buy Done. What's means I take a pile and I do the final I I I smooth it out on the top. It's you buy that from a You have to take it's it's yours. What does it mean? yours the true sell who exactly did this if the did the final action of smoothing it out the doesn't work smoothing it out is nothing what's going on here who owns it the guy owns it so what's a Jew what business does he have over there he's smoothing out a guy oh because he works for him he's a so the Jew smoothes it out and then in return he bought it from Why? That's why does he have to take meer? But he bought it from the answer is yeah has no right to have any ownership here in it's our land and he cannot own a land and say oh there's no too bad it's ours and the is there. So if it's ours, so why is the Jews? The answer is you try try to go to the try to go to an Arab right now. You go to an Arab tell the Arab 10% is mine. What's going to happen? Loyal. Yeah. Huh? >> Knives. Zak. I'm not going to go into details. Don't try it. It's not a good idea to go up to any Arab and try to take 10% from him. Let's just finish up a little bit over here. Today's all clear. If you let a watch your stuff, your fruit or we call them, you don't have to worry that they switched around the fruit. If you took some before and then you gave it to them like that, they're it's fine. It's by idol worshipper. It's like the idol worshipper's fruit. You have to assume that he probably switched your fruit around. You have to take it's a sophic. What's the difference? Of course. Even though if there's a sophic doesn't matter. You still have to take the come and sue you. Holds it happen 100%. you give it to the co. There's no question the has a right to sue you since it's only the doesn't have a right to sue you. So you don't have to give it to the coin. It's only because you don't know if there was a switcheroo. But what if you saw it on a video camera you saw that there was a switcheroo? Then of course you would have to give it to the kite. says that you don't have to give it to the you can get to keep it says yeah we're not going to go through the whole everybody in MD knows is the when you have a whole pile of wheat let's say you give 2% of the co then you give 10% to the ley and from that 10% the ley you have to the ley gives 10% to the katumis micers on the trumis micer the truma that The ley gives now you it's your that you're potter and then you could sell it to the says you just reminded me of something this thing when you buy ready wheat it's already smoothed out and everything step number three giving the 10% that the ley received to give 10% of that and adds up to 1% only stuff that you buy from a Jew. But when you purchase from a guy, let's just finish this so we can start nice and fresh from from a it's very easy. If this sheep dies, you could benefit from it. Where in whose possession did it die? If the owns it, of course, he could enjoy it and benefit from it. It says to do whatever he wants. If it dies, he could benefit from it. He had a israel that set aside a sheep to give to the k and it died by him. So you go, you take this dead sheep. Listen to this. You take a dead sheep, give it to the kayen. No. So you give it to the ken. If it's alive, you give it to the k. If it's dead, you give it to the ken. Why would I think that if it died, you don't give it to the kayen. You can't enjoy it. didn't give it to the it's got stuck in the and it died that it's not the at all and he shouldn't benefit from it once you set it aside it's as if it went to the get benefit from it even if it dies have a wonderful day for coming allas Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdyop.com.