CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 23 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

He's [music] now [singing and music] [singing] [music] [singing] I like the way you go like this. That was a big help. >> Them in America doesn't hear this. >> They don't hear it. >> Feel it. >> They feel it. I've never done this. This is also the first time ever we're holding and I'm going to do something that we've never done before. We're going to do and we're going to go a hold back. We just have it's a very today and we have a very nice uh prop here for the very understandable very what's going on is as follows. We had this uh story where let's just show it cuz my father-in-law didn't see this yet. So here goes. You have an amar. It's behind the counter. These pans are probably tom and he's selling fish brine ku. What does he call? What do they call it? >> So when you touch it, [music] it becomes the mar touches it becomes. So now how do you make it tar? >> By doing hasha. when the mikvah water touches even a little piece a little little part of the water it all becomes t okay so that's a shaka so the says if the water if you had 51% water 49% fish brine so then the hashaka works the shaka is going to be entire the water if you have 51% brine 49% >> uh water then the brine is not it's not something it's not it's not really part of the fish it's not food it's not one of the mashkim certainly not one of the mash it's not blood it's not wine it's not vash so it's not at all and then the tells us well wait a minute if you have 49% water and you want to dip your bread in it that's great but what if you introduce new water to it. Let's say you put that 49% of the fish brine into a pot of soup that has a ton of water from this faucet. Now all of a sudden it's not 49% anymore. Now all of a sudden it's 75% water. So the extra water from the soup is going to touch the water from the fish brine and it's going to waken him up. He was schloffen. He was snoring away. He he was put aside. He was dormant. But now that you add water, now he wakes up. In other words, what the Gar is saying is that the fact that you're allowed to eat it is not because the the the 49% water that was in the fish brine goes away and miraculously the tuma evaporates. It's it's whatever. No, no. It's there. It's sitting dormant and you can awaken him. So the all the way on the bottom asked a question. How can you take something that you said this is and all of a sudden awaken him and you don't you don't uh you don't hold like this and the Gar goes through a whole which is only six lines and the rest of the to prove that we do awaken something One part was truma one into 100. So Rashi says that these the other hund were never tum. They never had the water the liquids on them that they could now be susceptible to tuma. We didn't what do we call it? Um unlock it or activate it. So here's the video again. You have a tummy saw that's literally about to fall. OH, [applause] you you can't just leave it and say, "Oh, one one became 100." You have to remove one because I'm going to say we're going to we're going to just say not not instead the exact amount that fell in you just pulled out. So what does tala mean? If we stop there tala means it becomes bottled. So it becomes bottled in you don't have to take anything out. really say I have a problem. There's one sub tummy in here. There's one sub tummy. What can I do? You can't eat the wholeund saw. There's one sub. Pull one out and that's the tummy. I'm going to say that is the tong. Put it aside. Let it let it let it let it uh spoil. You can't give it to what. What are you going to do? You're going to give it to you yourself can't eat it. Isro can't eat it because you're is the truma. So let it spoil. Say you don't have to let it spoil. You could eat it. So what do you mean you could eat it? But what happened? One of the hundred, one of the 101. Actually, it's 101. One of the 101 belongs to the cayen. So what are you what are you doing? What do you mean you're eating? You're going to eat all 101? Yes, you're going to eat all 101, but you're going to give some random cayenne $3. You're going to pay the cayenne for that one s whatever the the cost is. And here it is. You make sure it's dry or toasted. Or you knead it with apple juice, some sort of fruit juice. We all saw you break it up into smaller pieces of dough. So you make sure that each piece is less than a less than a. And we learned. So here here we are. We did the whole on today's We have 101 we know is fell into the hund take out one. But what about the the hundth? How do you treat the hund? You do those four things. You eat it dry. Make sure when you break it up into small pieces, you don't have a Now, let's explain. Why can't you introduce water to this? What's the problem? You could read this and it could make you confused for a second, but I'm going to show you how you do it. It's beautiful. Look at this. over here. Why is this so be? You're going to see why this is beautiful in a second. I can't even tell you half of it. So yellow is is tummy. Green is tar. What are we saying? That in this green all these green. There's one gumball that's Tommy right over here. See the yellow right over here. It's >> this guy went to sleep. Went to sleep. He's bottle. He's not gone. He's taking a nap. So, the guy's going to come and he has a bunch of tummy gumballs here. Slightly less than this. Now, you're going to see a video. It's insane what he did. But remember, the the yellow gumballs are all the way to the top. In the video, it's a little off. He made a little boo boo, but the video is unbelievable. So, now he's going to these are Tommy. He wants to take these gumballs and make them green. How does he do it? Very simple. He's going to mix the yellow into the green and the green are more they're slightly more than the yellow. He's going to all the yellow. All the yellow are going to turn into green. Now you're going to ask me but you're not something. And in fact if you something doesn't even work. If you take and you put I don't know you do a you try to be truma take one piece of it won't work. over here. It does work. They're trying to explain because there's nothing else over here. It's just tame. You're allowed to eat tuma. Maybe the kum. You didn't do anything wrong. It's going to work. >> It's not here. This is it. This is a [clears throat] This is a but more than a This has more than the yellow. And then what's going to happen? He thinks he thinks in his mind he thinks he's going to pour them in and they're going to come the green are going to overcome the yellow. They're going to make all the yellow green. But what he forgot is there's one little guy in here that's Tommy. And now when you pour the yellow in, they're going to wake him up. >> They're going to wake him up. And when the yellow guy wakes up, all of a sudden the yellow become more. That's why they have to be very close in in measurements. Together with the yellow in the green, the yellow become the majority. And what happens now? They become they become now everything becomes in a way because this one yellow gumball in here. He finds all the other yellow gumballs veneer and he wakes up. I take a picture of this and I send this to Yoshi. I send it to Yoshi. I'm Shabas by Mishab by the shear. This is what he comes up with. He's going to blow you guys away. It's unbelievable. That's crazy. [applause] So, so we got all the way here. We got all the way here. I agree with that. But hold on. So, Abaya Abaya was they asked Abaya, "What? You don't agree to the idea that something is dormant and then you could wake him up? Here, you see with the gumballs, this guy was sleeping and when you introduce all the yellow ones, he wakes up. So, you also agree to it." So, he says, "No, what's the difference?" Big difference. We're talking about a case of the the fish brine. You have 49% water. So the says don't add all this other water from from a soup from a from the faucet into it cuz you add more water it becomes instead of 49 becomes 75%. Then it's going to overcome. But that water is t water and you're trying to add tar water to to fish brine. That's very different than this case. This case you have a tummy gumball right here and over here you have tommy gumballs. You're taking to and adding them into T. Tommy is gonna wake up another Tommy. But who says that water from the sink or from a soup is going to wake up the other one? Says rarest by the gumballs by the truma. We say the tuma wakens up another one. But water where do you see that it could wake up the the tummy water in the fishb? So now asked three very similar questions. Easy stuff. You have the Let's show you the So now everybody knows every knows that the ashes of the paradum they are t when the person sprinkling does a sprinkling he himself becomes to the person that gets sprinkled becomes tar. We're going to go with the ashes before you add water. This is superish. You have duma ashes that are that are mixed in the ashes of somebody's just regular simple ashes of a piece of paper from a cigarette. If the majority 51% is the ashes of para of course it's maybe a mlan if it's from just paper from a cigarette why not so if we look at this take a look this is let's say paradum this yellow over here now we're going to use yellow for paraduma and it's in all these other ashes so when I touch this I touch it what am I touching I'm always touching nonparaduma and I have to assume that I'm not I'm not ever touching the paraduma cuz it's but right logically I'm always every time I touch I touched the the the other the other the other um now what happens if I touch it all I touch it all I go keep on touching so Tesus brings up the point and he says that but every time you touched you had a bit of so even you're right at you went through 100% of it at the end of the day you did touch the paradum but at any given time when you touched it at that point it was but >> what if you touch the whole thing together at the same time >> okay so yeah that that would be that would be a problem that would be a problem they talk about eating we're going to talk about eating soon when you have you have two two pieces of of kosher meat one piece of noa and what if you just consume it all yeah it's problematic >> things to think about so but the gammora you say that you're you're tired when you touch it but what about when you lift You lifted it. >> At the end of the day, you can't get away from the fact that you lifted it. Touching. Okay, I can say I didn't touch it. You always touch something else. But what about lifting? If you tell me he's there, the tomb is there. He's just dormant. He's taking a nap. I missed something. [clears throat] But if it's dormant, you're right. You're not You didn't touch anything. You lifted it up. And the says, "You're right. 100% you did lift it." You're right. You got me there. Says, "Okay. You have two pieces of meat and one of them two to one. One piece is two pieces are once an animal is a it can never ever be a and therefore what it's two. You have a min meat that's called you have a a type of meat called they can never be the same. You can't take an avail and therefore the bottle the meat is bottle and says the okay it's so if you touch one of the pieces of meat we have to say that you touch the meat and you're not but what if it's on a plate and you lift all three up it's there according to what you're telling me that the doesn't go away it's there just hiding and sleeping you lift it up the whole plate You read it in we learn it with and therefore the same answer he said before because he says you're right if you lifted up a whole plate of this you would become and finally we're getting this whole thing for for our Mishna we're going to read the entire Mishna it's a very short Mishna remember because it's the at the end of the whenever he says we always passing like him he says a animal that gave that that gave birth to a cake of blood we have to say that this cake is actually there's a bkar hidden inside here a vlad of bkar so we're going to treat it with a lot of respect and we're going to bury it and the next time she gives birth and No longer this animal doesn't have to you don't have to give a first war this this this cake of blood and ask is if it's a make to if it's not why is it why is it goes through the whole thing the bottom line is there's no tomb on it you're right if you touch You probably touched the blood part. Blood doesn't give tuma. The ne the part the the animal the little baby animal the fetus that's what gives off the tuma. But if you lift the whole thing you should be three three questions same exact questions. He didn't know what to say. Says I'll tell you an answer. This this was born. It's so gross and so disgusting. It doesn't give off tum. It's like nothing. It's disintegrated lot because it's so gross. It doesn't give off tum. And where do we get this grossness? Who says gross? No tum grossness because says so. What's severe tum? Something that makes even your clothing to how do you how do your clothing become? If you lift mass if you lift tuma so everything on you becomes you your body and your clothes. That's severe. G means a go that comes together. But a human being, if a human being cannot eat this thing, then it can't be masa. If you have a piece of na that's starting to go green and a human being in the right mind is not going to eat it. So it doesn't give off tuma from masa, but it will give the tuma of touching. When does the touching stop becoming? If a dog won't eat it, then there's a Oh, that's that one. If a dog won't eat it, then if you touch it, you're not tummy. So says this and this um this disgusting cake of blood, no human being is going to eat it. So if no, you're asking me, oh but when you lifted it, you should become from lifting it. There's no of lifting when it's so disgusting according to it's not it's not it's not edible for human being whether or not for for even for it's it's good it's good for a dog this cake of blood is good for a dog how do I know so I have a video that it's good for a dog. Here we go. In order for a piece of meat that's in a veil to give off tuma that even your clothing become by carrying it, it's only if a human being could eat it. the by touching it that's as long as the dog can eat it even for even for carrying as long as the dog can eat it gives off to get from it talks about a human being a eating as long as it's good for a g means like a you know Okay. When there was a prow, imagine a leg of an animal that's severed. It has some massive issue. It's full of it's a wormy leg that even when it's attached to the body of the animal, a human being can't eat it. So for that, I don't need that. That's not that's what the puzz is saying in that case that it never was never had a moment most legs of animals when the animal dies then later two days later he can't but this it never had even one moment that was good for human being that is I don't need a posit for that I consider that just dust we just learned that you have this a cake of blood. What do you do with it? You say that there's a in there, you bury it. So the animal becomes this is the third time we're learning it. But it doesn't give off any. Why is there no? Because in this cake 51% is blood and ginim whatever mean other stuff and 49% at most is a fetus is some sort of an animal in there. So why do they have to come on to tell me that it's because it's not it's nothing. It's not food. It's says no it is when it was in the stomach of the mother then it wasn't gross anymore. When you're eating it together with other stuff it's not not when you put it on a plate by itself disgusting. But when you mix it in with other stuff, you could eat it. [laughter] It's not awesome. Not awesome. When you have this idea of a shak says we're talking about over here. Oh, I forgot to show you this one. You have the widely lifted up. Not because I didn't want I was limited. I had 10 people. So Rashi says this talking about the brine talking about the brine. This guy. Yeah. This picture. So Rashi says we're talking about brine that was once. He made a through a little bit of water was introduced to it. It reit reignites the next they say this is not like a bad thing. Oh wards are so bad. But you should know that I'm a rans when they sell in the marketplace. You go to Benuda the is that the place? No thene the shook. You should go to over there you have a few you should know they add 50% water to everything. So so if you add 50% water you add a little bit more a couple drafts it becomes 51% water. Oh then the tuma reignites. said that if it's >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They discussed according to this or that. Yeah. 100%. 50%. So it's funny that in my gumar I ced it last night in so I put it in a I asked somebody for a pen in my gar the nud say bit because he thinks that we're talking about the person doing the thought that we're still talking about brine but the word is so some people have the mistake some people don't the school doesn't even less than a 50% also why as long as you get to 50% it's 50/50 it's also a problem this. [snorts] You're right. Okay. Up to 50. Not you don't need 51%. There's two things going on here. The first of all the fact that everything that Amar touches is only to mask. The whole tomb of of liquids is so you have on top of goes. You do need 51% because the Xer is only one that's 51%. But 5050 goes abundant. Fine. Next says the Mishna. It's easy. Very easy. When you see an animal nursing a baby, it's her baby. They're not going to mix up the babies. What I saw in this is something special. So says the don't we don't think that it came from someone else. What this you don't have to give anymore. Here this is her. This is her baby. The next baby that comes is not a He sees mothers who never gave birth before nursing. He sees mothers that gave birth before nursing. Don't think that there's a mixup here that the one that that that that never had that had a bunch of children went to the one that had children. The kids are the one that never had children and she's nursing. Take that animal and give it to the kay. That's the it's not from another mother. It's her baby. You could say, "Oh, it came from another mother who already had children. It's not a They're not mixing up. What you see is what you get. They nurse their own." So, here we have a very also simple with a beautiful beautiful charts here that help us a lot. Rav says, "Rav, we could go V. We have seven minutes for the hour. So we have to go says in the name of check this out the per our per starts on the base and that's the famous that when you buy a goat and the goat gives birth if it's less than a year old it must be that this is why because the goat can't give birth twice in the first year. So says Rav I want you to know typically speaking when Rebi wants to say that is like someone no name over here even though he brings a name in the Mishna it's still is like him when is that not the case when there's an argument in the Mishna so if there's argument in the Mishna obviously is not like anyone if there's no argument there's a name you should know that is like that and the says wait there's only like five Mishn here let's take a look what what are you talking about which Mishna and he goes through the whole list very very simple but that's why I have this uh this little chart here again is like the whole perfor I think Rav was the middle of a little Dremel he was falling asleep that's exactly where Rav was I love Rav he's the galad he's my rebi I want to talk with respect I don't want to say that what he said isim [snorts] I say he was falling asleep was half asleep when he said this. What is he talking about? Which let's say he was talking about the first mission. Look at this. These are all the Mishnak. They're beautiful. The the graphics are getting better and better. The first one is with the goat that a goat can't give birth in the first year twice. Take a look. Look what he did here. Boom. The goat. Boom. Cut it in half. Boom. You just said if there's it doesn't go on that. It has to be some just one name. Oh, so what that was the mission we just learned today that if if a cow gives birth to cake, the blood looking cake, then it's a bar and you bury it. Mission of every kid in that you learn gimmar for for a few months. You you come up with this idea. >> The what? You don't need >> you don't need it's famous whatever says our that when you buy an animal and it's nursing you should know it's it's it's its offspring it's not someone else's wait a minute the Bryce argues on this so since the Bryce argues on it later on then it's you just told me this this how is implied let's go to the The next talks about but already said that the also throughout if says something once he won't say it again and the always says wait a minute already said that once you know he never repeats himself oh so finally we go to the last but all that can't be either again once against I'm not talking about is only when there's no says oh so we're going to go back to the middle one our mission just learned that if she's nursing it's her baby and is you should know that yes there's an argument but it's in the the I'm talking about that I'm not going to discuss somebody we don't care about that right now is like this Have a great day. Thank you for coming. 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