CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 34 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. >> So, we had yesterday two over here. The one was and the other one was we have a if an animal has a what kind of mum are we discussing? So Rashi says the worst m possible is this animal's about to die any minute if you don't do blood letting is going to die. There's too much blood or whatever it is. So that's a mum and then you poke a hole to get the blood out. So now you created a second mum on a balm. And the question is if you create a second on an existing m well depends how you learn the if you learn the so if he only if he doesn't have a m then it's but if he has a m already then it's not he's not a so he can poke a hole that's reor brings the of the word tells us that even if you add a second additional so the says two lines from the bottom what okay they say we have that you're only when it's completely when it's unblenmished and you poke a hole but this animal who's blemished who's about to die because there's no blood letting So what do you do with the of it seems like you're not allowed to add a second like says no the is coming to say what have you didn't you didn't poke the hole but you caused something else to poke the hole how that you shouldn't physically take a punch hole and punch a hole hole through this animal's ear. If you thought there's no video, I am starving. I can't believe I didn't pack enough food for the trip. We learned from the word, not that you're if you put a second moment to the animal, but means all types of mum. You're not a cause. Don't be the cause to them. Don't put the chocolate on the ear. Don't put a on their ear. The picture from our Gimra is a lot simpler. This is on the ear. Put something like a piece of dough that will have the dog uh cut it. Okay. says we actually have very short three lines of names. What do we have yesterday? We had if there's a barrel of wine that's truma and you don't know whether or not it's tummy. You don't know if somebody whose tummy touched it. So take a look at this. This is very simple. We have it throughout chass. We did something new today for this we have to protect to be the true we have to make sure that it doesn't come to but how do we read it look at the word there's a there's a dot on top of the me that makes it plural two but if you take off the nudas and you just read it as is >> it could be it could be singular. So that that's the famous concept in does it go by the way we read it mikra we we read it or is it misar the way we write it two different things the way we write it is without nudas it means one one true you have to watch or is it two trumas they have to watch so here goes mikra is the way we we say it the way the b reads it with the nudas messiah is without the nudas Trumai as if there's a VV there. That's and therefore it means two trumas. One is the regular trum you have to watch and the other one is the one that we discussed the suffix suffix. You have to still watch it. Uncovered cover it. Make sure a rat doesn't fall into it. You have or the the messiah is without a vasi trumi. That's which would mean you only have to watch and protect one truma. The truma that's val truma. Okay, very simple. The problem is that over here is on the right. He holds that we go by the way you read it. In a second, we're going to show that he holds that you go by the way you write it, not read it. He's going to be on the left. So the is going to go away from this. So that's not on the right. He holds that it's a pluralum even one that we have a suffic and protect and therefore yesterday we learned he holds you have to cover uncovered suffici it's singular only one which one the one the truma obviously it's you only have to protect one truma which one are you protecting the one they know for sure this truma but the one that's suffic You don't have to protect. You're telling me that goes in with the way we read it and not the way it's written. So now we're talking about a person sells his daughter. Now you could read the word. So this that the owner could be her. He could he could marry her. At what age? >> Up to 12. In other words, she's really young. There's the we're talking about she's 11 years old. Yeah. So, what is this word? What is a vivid? You can read it like us most Americans who know what a begg is means um a talis he it's a lion of marrying her with a with a begged. So to to learn it one way is a beged and once once he he uh marries her so to speak then the father doesn't have a right to sell her. You can't sell her after she was married. >> Even if she got divorced, >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. She gets divorced. You can't sell her again. And I know she's 11 years old and you want to make another deal here. It doesn't work anymore. That's it. One time. But all of a sudden, he's on the left side. He goes with Mus. He says it's not. It's the way it's written. It means the rebellion that what? Once you sell, you can't sell again. Not once she gets married, you can't sell again. There's no selling after selling. move in and show them. Once he sells her, that's it. You're out of the picture. There's a rashy here. Let me see. Did I finish showing over here? Yeah, he sold her. Sold. You get the money. Okay. You can't sell her again. Just a there's no You don't sell after you sell. But after after marrying you, okay, fine. I call upon him. What's the point there? The point is that you see holds. It's not he's on the left, not on the right. He goes by the way you read, you write it, not you read it. And we said he goes by the way you write it. when it comes to plural says just to go back to the here's the P on the screen I gave to you have to protect and watch you what I gave to you what did I give to you a true nobody could eat why why can no one eat tummy A rat might have touched it. So the kite can't eat it. You can't eat it. So it's not. It's for the garbage. Burn it. You don't have you don't have to watch such a thing. What's the what's at the end of the day? I always going to come today. So I have to believe he's coming. He's going to tell me what the hell what's what's the what's the status of this trauma? Is it Tommy or not? This is good. I didn't This is something simple I didn't do in the Hebrew. But here's the Mishna that tells us in the you have an animal that's dying. It needs a blood letting. The doctor says you got to let the blood, but you're going to poke a hole. says and what's we said in the what's anybody remember always says that if you don't have intent to damage your intent was the tent to save he's a paramedic he comes in with the with the needle pack saves the life oh but there's a outcome there's a hole in there okay but that's not that wasn't his intent that's mut what does say in the bryer the bottom lines says not only are you permitted to to to poke the hole in the ear but then you say you know what by mistake he has a so I'm going to now have steak that's another so so he says over here which one what did he mean scaven or that I'm allowed to eat this animal based on the hole I poked in his in his ear because I tried to save it two different one is the to eat it and one is the to do it. Which one are you talking about? There's no in that we know throughout says argues with say so we already know throughout that holds so what are you telling me that and it just continues this is a freebie the same exact thing Just it's not with it's directly saying it bottom line is we know if or not. So what are you telling me? Oh, that wasn't coming to say is we pass it that if shows up for blood letting and they don't have a mind to to make a hole or even that the the owner himself the owner himself yeah maybe in the back of him his mind subconsciously he realizes that he's going to be able to eat steak soon but lice is coming to save this animal so he pokes a hole in his ear he creates a m the next day he could check this animal that's you can check the animal and eat it. He says the he sticks in the word not the but the bottom thing the okay this is our picture of a of a person creating a m on purpose in the ear he figures nobody's watching so cut his ear and cuts his ear he's he's permitted to to eat to to sh this animal we punish him. We punish him that forever and ever. It's a forever even. Oh, what does it mean forever? Yeah, of course not. No, even if he develops a real mis his his leg gets chopped off and he has a real m can't eat him. You just video. >> Where's your I I forgot it. say, "Okay, we can we're not going to allow you to with this M that you just created with your own hands. But if there's another M that developed on you sent him to Kev Land and over there he developed the M. You're allowed to because of that says that he's that you can never eat this animal because he did a deliberate we have something similar. There's two here. He had a an infliction of teras on his on his skin. Looks let's say something like this. Just a white a white a white thing. We're going to talk about a grist in a second. If by mistake you were I don't know what a knife came and chopped it off by mistake. Your tar was by mistake but he chopped it off on purpose. if he'll develop another then he'll become tired from the first one. So if you now read it yourself when he'll develop another become from the first one at what point does it become from the first one? The moment he gets a second one or after he goes through the process of the of the second one says the he you can get out of this if you develop a tarass on your entire body which basically means cannot never happen but if it does then that little tarass that you chopped off is included in your whole body and and because it's in your whole body anyway your your o this boy say pay attention over here cuz it's tricky. Not tricky like wow hard but it doesn't read in the words. So that was the picture I showed you. Here's a gris. Let's say some sort of lentil. When it becomes less than the lentil then becomes when when did it come? When you read the garra, it seems like later on it becomes less than a lentil. But guess what? You chopped it off. What do you mean it becomes less than a lentil? It's in the garbage can before you cut it off. before you cut it off it got small but before if it got that small it's not even teras so the point is you're almost never out of this problem according to so is going to point out over here hold basically that you get a forever where before it's in the when you chop a ear off it's says you can't use this animal forever say don't worry about it when you get another m you could and over here they're the ones that are super m they're the ones that say oh no only if you get a develop a on the whole body or if when you cut it off it wasn't even this year which is not important says not it's not oh so we have a contradiction here again what's the contradiction our mission says that we punish this guy forever and ever you try to circumvent the the the raan or or the toyra you cut the guy's the this animal's ear and pretended that he has a m and then you want to sh We caught you. You're never going to eat this animal. And over here says, not a problem. You tried to circumvent the Tyra. You chopped off your own your own. Wait, if in two months from now, you get another you're good to go. No, but says punish him forever. And all you don't punish him forever. Says answer. It's not a contradiction. Notice they gave you a when it has to do with monetary stuff like not on your own body. What's the difference? Think about it. I need to punish him because he's he's very smart. He's going to chop. He's going to cut the the animal's ear. He has nothing to lose. If they don't catch me, I get to eat it today. If they do catch me, I didn't lose anything. I'll just wait for it to develop a m which I was waiting anyway. I lost patience. He's I'm going to send him to Kev Land tomorrow. He's going to develop a m whatever. He's going to I'm I'm going to wait. If not, I'll just chop his ear now. So, either I'll eat him now or I'll eat him tomorrow when he gets a but I have zero to lose. But on it's a win-win. It's a shak win. But on your own behavior over here, >> by the way, now we're gummar is like I wasn't read the lion over there. I just I whatever. Wasn't so happy with that one. I'm just saying this for, you know, for hours goods. Oh, he might do it. He might try because he has nothing to lose. Why would he do it? He might lose. He might be a mur for the rest of his life. You ask me a contradiction. Our mission says that you punish him forever. And over here it says that you don't says and what about over here? They pointed it out which is not 100% clear but over here it seems like we're about to punish him forever. Oh, wait until you get a tarass in your whole body. No new when is that going to happen. In other words, they're more mach and in our Mishna by the said if you if you cut a hole in his ear you could get out of it. You just wait until he develops a moment you get out of it easy. So says we just explained that there's difference between monetary and your own body. Your own body you might be stuck with your harass forever and he he'll develop another m easy and he has nothing to lose. So that's not a but what about we punish him for what he did. In other words, he tried to get out of it by by cutting his ear. >> In my mind, I have this picture, I don't know why, of like a belt, you know, the belt hole maker. >> You know what I'm talking about? Boom. >> A leather puncher. >> A leather puncher. Yeah, that's what I have in my mind. The guy has a leather punch. He goes to to his animals ear. I mean, that's probably what the farmers have today. punch a hole and they put a a plastic uh tab tag and show you that's a m that's a mas has a special leather puncher. So he tried he punched a hole in in the ear with that m he wanted to eat this carbon. So he said okay you cannot eat because you have this mum and I'm not going to allow you to use this mum forever. Okay if he develops another mum you could eat. Oh, but what about a person? Also, the same thing. We're going to punish you with this mum, but here's the thing. The mum is gone. You took the tarass off. Where is it? I don't know. It's gone. It's in the garbage. Now, we're going to pretend it's here. So, now he's stuck forever. This mum is is back and it has to be t but you can't make it dark cuz you don't see it. So, that's it for he's for the rest of his life. He tried to use this cutting off the the teras and get out. Let's just show I don't I forgot where to show the second part. Part part two of the emotional video. >> Dear Reb Ali, you saved my life. Papa, >> so I pointed this question out before and the did not have in the Hebrew we had both sides going very very stark. Over here we only had one side. Yeah. >> What what does it say all the way in the top of the It's when there's a there's a one m there's one uh one saras and you cut it off. You wait until the second saras develops and it says he becomes t from it. Does it mean on the spot or do you wait a week? You have to go through the process and the gar actually ends up with a believe it or not it's a doesn't mean that you have to wait until the second one is completely tartino and that's what Lauren asked at the end of the day you have to wait for something to become anyway the second so you tell me in this position no there's that if a develops a during his we give him the free we don't even deal with him go to the rabbi after same thing on y wait until after is over then you go what happened over here our case sees a harass pictures you got a chop chop chop with a big a white blemish who takes a razor cuts it off then he develops a second one during so if you say he has a freebie he has to wait until then the so it depends if he becomes t immediately when you see a second one so you start the whole he's t cuz the second one came and you don't have to be matar the second one he becomes t from the first one that he removed and everything is good but if you have to wait until you do the whole process so now he's going to have to wait until after the sher go to the rv do all but until he goes to the everything is even if you see the on a garment nothing also you find it on his foot I'm just joking you find it on you give it all the all the says that he becomes becomes right way. You can't you don't do anything with the second one. So Lauren is asking, but it's not a real one until you go to here. If the is that you wait for the second one, okay? So you don't declare it. You don't you don't do anything. But he still told me from the first one. But he's asking how do you become tar on the first one from the second one? The second one is not a second one. Until you go to you don't go to because there must be a good answer. As answer if you did you'll tell you in a second very simple question. This is what we saw in the video. If this is what happened that that's the video the rebi the first one the father caused a deliberate inkar and then he died does the son get punished does the punishment continue to the son the father deliberately caused the injury to the to eat it and then he dies at saying you see he deserve to die cuz he poked a hole I'm telling you. So now could the son eat it? We have something similar. We have two cases. We could go either way to the right and to the left. If you if a if a father sells a non-Jewish slave evani, which actually he's the whole problem here. He sells his his slave to a non-Jew which would not allow the slave to keep mitzvah anymore. So we punish him that he has to pay a tremendous amount of money to get the the slave out. We do punish the son too every single day is not keeping mitzvah and it's not good for the father. So we make the son get get rid of it take him out. But on the other hand right this guy what what did he do today? >> What did he do? He he has a vineyard. He has a vineyard. And he thinks to himself, why should I waste my I have to build a suka and buy a nest and everything. I'm going to do the whole everything I have to do on I have free days. I'm not I'm not going to work. I might as well that's but when is this or when he actually cuts the stuff? Then then he says if I don't do it, it's going it's going to go into the garbage. I got to do it. And then he dies before he had a chance. Why? Because struck him down because he deserves to die because he thought of this thing over there. We don't give the son a punishment. Why? The father never did. He never he wanted to he thought about being but he didn't. But what about by us in our case the the the maybe we give a to the father the rebi the old rebi but he's gone so you don't do it to the to the son hold on maybe they put on the animal and the animal still alive we learned that you have a field that you cleared it out from the thorns. It's not such a big a to clear the thorn. is not a big you could you could uh plow it and and uh see use it on on the but if you did you fertilized it nyro here we have a great video almost a great video means that you take these animals and you fertilize the field with animals here you just put them in a pen and you constantly move the the cor you pull it with a tractor however they do it here he's showing you the all the fertilization that they do I didn't realize he talks talks about flies developing. I guess there's a whole process with the flies go to the manure and that actually activates it here. He's moving it with the animal just keep on fertiliz. That's already helping out the field. You're not using what if the guy did all this work and then he dies. You don't punish the son. We don't punish the son. We could actually do we have we have a minute. Let's just do this until the mission. So we start with very simple team. So we had this video. I hope I could do it within here. It's just A FEW SECONDS. WHAT if you take and you very special? >> He's going crazy because he's making a lot of noise. takes a dead sheriff puts it in the water. Now the water becomes and she uh 150 lb and she ruins the fruit. She bakes to on the fruit but the thing is it's not visible to is not visible. So is amaz because since it's not discernable you can't see it it's not considered gave you a day comes that goes to the person that did it comes it doesn't go to the kids have a wonderful day >> merit discuss of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.