CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 36 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[chanting] [singing] [chanting] [singing] [music] [singing] [chanting] [singing] [music] [screaming] >> We're holding on daf lamed heh mem base all the way in the bottom six lines from the bottom. Very very interesting Gemaras today. >> [clears throat] >> Good stuff. Gishmack. Amar lei Rabba bar Abba bar Avo. Lei Rebbi Meir de amar choshed al a davar lei donif v'lei me'idui. Rebbi Meir holds that a kohen who we are concerned that perhaps he will take this part. Okay, we have some new guys here. I know my uh my nephew never learned this before. So, we'll start from beginning. If an animal gives birth to a firstborn, that's a bechor. Just like a human being has a bechor, Adam has a bechor. A bechor, you have to give it to the cohen. If it doesn't have a blemish, a mum, the cohen has to take it to the Beit Hamikdash and shach in the Beit Hamikdash. It becomes very cumbersome. It's very It's difficult cuz you live over there and you got to schlep this thing and you don't have a car and you got to schlep it on a bus. How are you going to get to the Beit Hamikdash? A whole animal, bring it up, give it food, the whole thing. And then you have to go all the way to your slide. Let's say you live in Tzfat. Let's say you live I don't know where. You got to come all the way to the Beit Hamikdash. Best thing is if it has some sort of blemish. The easiest blemish is like a hole in the ear. They have a hole in the ear, then the cohen just takes it shachs in his backyard and he could eat it. But a cohen is always choshesh. We have to always be concerned that a cohen in the back of his mind he wants to do something like this. So, we we don't trust cohanim when it comes to this. So, we don't trust the cohen. It says It says the Gemara uh unbelievable question. If you don't trust the cohen for that, according to Reb Meir, if you don't trust somebody for one thing, let's say somebody has a problem, has a flaw to fill in, let's say this is his issue. He's a He's a great Jew, just filling is not his thing. According to Reb Meir, you can't trust him for anything, the whole Torah. So, now comes out according to Reb Meir, we don't trust all the cohanim. You know, you say all these people they're like that. That's what Reb Meir does. It's like all the cohanim, they're like that. We can't trust them when it comes to moment of bechor. Ah, so if so, all cohanim should not be trusted in anything in the Torah. That's the question. It's a question we have a good answer though. Says the Gemara Reb Meir We don't trust him. He can't testify that there was a a blemish beforehand. We don't trust him. When it comes to blemishes, you're out. You're out of the picture. Why we said there's different issues. Maybe he he's going to gain from it. They'll give him a good stake. Maybe he's he's playing a game where I scratch your back, you scratch mine. I'll do it for you, I'll lie for you, then you'll lie for me. We don't trust you. But Mayor is the one that says if I don't trust you, let's say you're a Shabbos kind of guy. So I can't trust you for anything, not for not for anything. So if so, then it comes out that a coin you can't trust him for anything. I'll be a miracle omega. What do you do when you have a a psoriasis on your hand? You have a white thing on your skin. You have to go to a coin. Only a coin can tell you whether or not it's Tommy or not. How can you trust them? Says he was very simple. That's why I'm going to allow All I said is don't trust him. I didn't say that he was over. If he was over and you know for a fact he lied about a mom, he's he's a goner. According to America, you can't trust him for anything. We're talking about a regular coin. He's a nice guy. He's a he's actually a rabbi in Israel. He's a he's a good guy. He just I don't trust I don't trust him. It doesn't mean that you can't you can't listen to him in other in other areas in the tire. I was a kid in the army. I never said he's Muslim like that. I said he's You know that usually testimony is when you witness with your own eyes. What if somebody told you that this is what happened? Hearsay. Can I testify that so-and-so said that this hole in the ear of this animal happened by itself. There was a nail in the wall. He walked by, pop, popped his ear. I know for a fact it wasn't with a punch hole. The owner didn't do it by himself. But he didn't see it. He heard it from Reuben. Shimon is testifying that he heard it from Reuben. Where do we have something like this? Only one time in the whole tire. Rav Asi also Rav Asi Shimon. Amalek, Amalek of Rashi and Rashi. What time is it in Russia? You Rashi says this also. Rashi says it's okay. I can listen from one ear to the other. >> [clears throat] >> So, Rashi tells Rashi tells Rashi, how could you say it's muter? There's only one time that we allow this. When? >> [clears throat] >> When a woman is an agunah. When she's it's hard for her to get married. It comes along a single lady and says, I saw your husband dead. I saw his body. Somebody murdered him in that and that city. And we'll believe him. The Gamorah has a whole thing cuz a woman is very careful. She's not going to just get married. Okay. But that's one case that we allow aid me PA. Not I saw. I heard from somebody that saw his body. So, therefore the Gamorah changes and says to me, Ella show you should share a little bit of that. You saw yesterday that when it comes to Bakhar, we could we actually believe that this guy's daughters. The owner's daughters could testify. So, you see that there's a certain aid that the women are are muterid. Ah. Women are muterid that they can do also aid me PA. If a if a girl could testify about the [clears throat] ear of an animal, so we'll also accept testimony that Reuben heard from Shimon. Have you ever heard of Rashi aid me PA of Bakhar? Rashi said that you could listen you could hear testimony that Reuben says I heard from Shimon. Rashi said so he he used a derogatory term. Yeymar Shari Bakhar. His name was Yeymar, Rabbi Yeymar. So, he called him Yeymar. Yeymar allows a Bakhar. But the bottom line is it's not true. Aid me PA kosher. You shouldn't have embarrassed him like that cuz the law is like Yeymar that a aid from a aid is okay. The aid is Bakhar. So, the Gamorah says like how you talking about Bakhar? You have an animal that nobody knows this is a firstborn or second born. Khaiv and bukhar not. Comes the owner and says, "This is a bukhar." But, it has a good mom that you parted from from from You can check the right area in your backyard. There's an animal in front of us. I don't know if it's a bukhar. Who tells me it's a bukhar? The owner. The owner tells me this animal is a bukhar, but you see the hole in his ear? It happened by itself. Do I believe him? Of course I believe him. Why? A pesha also a pesha yetir. It's a It's a halakha called a pesha also a The mouth The mouth that said that this is a bukhar is the same mouth. I'm trusting that mouth to tell me that it has a good mom. A mom that I can check in my backyard have myself. We have an animal that we don't know if it's a bukhar. And a guy Reuven says this is a bukhar. And it's a good mom. Now I'm going to trust him. A pesha also a pesha yetir. Danny, I know this halakha. Everybody knows a pesha also a pesha yetir. A woman situation is a grushani. A woman we didn't know if she's married or not. And she tells you, "You should know I was married, but I'm divorced today." Ne'eman es. She's believed. Why? She pesha Who told you that she's married? A pesha also a pesha yetir. Listen to this. Every woman Most women in this world are born unmarried. You figure it out. Most. So, a woman has a khazaka she's not married. She's not married. So, when she says she's married, she's ruining her khazaka. She really has a khazaka she's not married. So, she's just going back to the khazaka that she had. A plain woman, regular woman, she could be 25 years old, 30 years old, 40 years old, it doesn't matter. There's no reason to believe she's married cuz she was born unmarried. So, right now she's unmarried. The only way you know she's married is because she told Okay, so she also told you she's divorced. I bet So what's the why do you have to say in our story here? What why is a woman different than a he says this is a but it has a moment. I'm married but I'm divorced. I always believe the person. If she feels like it she doesn't have to say anything. Keeps her mouth shut nobody will think she's married. And she will will will assume that she's unmarried. He can't not talk. Why? The culture of alcohol. At the end of the day this guy doesn't know if this is a good woman or not. He still needs to bring to the rabbi to find out is this whole large enough is it this can I check that he's not going to want to eat a outside of the dish. That's a big boo-boo that's a that's a curse to eat a outside of that he doesn't want to do. He doesn't want to give up his life for a piece of steak. So he's going to ask the rough. So he can't be quiet about it. Because if you so if you really think that he's so concerned about that how should he be he would have poked a larger hole in the in the sheep and then he would have eaten it. You lend your car to somebody say don't I'll let you drive it but you can't go off-roading. You can't you can't take it over there. You can't they tell you you rent the car you can't take it into the Palestinian authority whatever. He says you want my donkey my car you can only go to the right you can't go to the left here this is from our actually. It's a picture from our why in the on the left has water. I don't want you to go through my I don't want my donkey going through the water. You want to you want to rent it only to the right. No what did this do? He went to the left and what happened to the donkey? Haggard. He died. I don't want you to go to The water. Go the other way cuz there's water. No water. Also, this goes he goes with the water or miss the donkey dies. So, what is his excuse? I'm a nice guy. I'm going to tell you the truth. I went to the left. You should know it was was dry. Your donkey is just a bad donkey. The engine conked out on me over there. This has nothing to do with the water. You know what? We have to trust him. By all means, we have to trust him. If he wanted to, he could have said I went to the right. Why did he say I went to the left? He's a nice guy. He's telling the truth. this is how we pass again. We have over here. What are they? It's not really them. It's an answer how they do. What? Over there certainly water. So, the guy is just a liar. This is good aid them. Awesome. Or it's really how how. He he he you know for a fact he put a moment in the saddle. You have your your your your little doubt. And when you have doubts, then I can say this water. Why should he lie? But over there with the water, in other words, okay. When you have meaning I know that this is usually how it is. 95% of the time this is how it is. There's no you don't say let's just see this video. I like it a lot. I guess this is based on my son's a little bit. Just where the water is. >> [music] >> Story time. He a good idea just to finish up this thing. You also he said over this whole thing about it's actually it does have a name and has an author this whole thing of a his name is Rebbe Eloi. Rebbe Tzadok have a Rebbe Tzadok was a coin have a Rebbe Eloi sorry Rebbe Sali. So he put the barley in a basket. Now a Rebbe Eloi Klippa. It had this basket was something similar to let's say this. And the animal but I did the it look at this poor animal the sheep look what happened to his lip. Made a good by mistake it had nothing to do with it. He didn't he didn't want to he didn't want to do it but it happened. This is it. Also Rebbe Shua Rebbe Eloi. And he asked Rebbe Shua Rebbe Tzadok asked Rebbe Shua. This is a this is a very this is like one of the big famous stories in Shas this this story. Because of the ending what happened there. So he asks also Rebbe Shua Rebbe Shua was from the Adar. And he asked Rebbe Shua. Can you make a distinction between me I'm a I'm I'm on all the and the and everything and can you make a distinction between me and a typical person in other words a you don't trust. I'm telling you I'm a I'm telling you it happened on by itself. Trust me I'm a I'm a coin and I want to check this animal in the backyard. Rebbe Shua hey. Remember this Rebbe Shua said yes you're right. I can make a distinction between a and a person. Also Rebbe Gamliel. So the guy is explaining this whole story. Makes a lot of sense. Rebbe Gamliel was the Nasi. Rebbe Shimon was a Gadol Hadar. But, like in every business, you know, there's only one boss. You can't can't uh try to undercut the boss. He He got a heter from Rebbe Shimon, but it's not okay. In order to get a heter, you have to go to the Nasi. Otherwise, what's going to happen? Two tyrants. He said this, he said that. One one Halakha. So, he goes back to get a confirmation from Rebbe Gamaliel. O Rebbe Kum tzei Rebbe Gamaliel ben Halakha Orach, he asks him the same question. O Rebbe Gamaliel, loy. You need aidem. No, no, I'm not going to trust you because you're a Talmid Hakham. O Rebbe Rebbe Shimon Rebbe Gamaliel hein. Problem. But, Rebbe Shimon told me yes. O Rebbe Rebbe Gamaliel ben Halakha Orach, wait until the the the warriors are going to come to the Beit Midrash. I want you to say this in front of everybody. He was in the Beit Midrash Halakha Orach and so he gets up and he asks, Can we make a distinction between Halakha Orach O Rebbe Rebbe Shimon, Halakha Orach, no way. O Rebbe Whoa, so Rebbe Shimon who said yes before now all of a sudden says no. So, Rashi says he retracted. O Rebbe Rebbe Gamaliel Rebbe Shimon Rebbe Gamaliel hein, but Rebbe Rebbe Tzadok said in front of He said that you said yes. Yeshua O Rebbe Rebbe Gamaliel Rebbe Gamaliel ben Halakha Stand up, Yeshua. And we're going to testify. Say Say what happened. O Rebbe Rebbe Shimon Rebbe Gamaliel ben Halakha Orach, what should I do? Im Rebbe Gamaliel Halakha Orach If I'm alive and he's dead, Yokhlu Halakha Orach u'meit. Even now with the with the uh with the voting that's going on, like vote not vote, so a lot of people say like this Rebbe said shouldn't vote. But, lem'aaseh, you know, you have him on video that you should. Or, the Hazon Ish said you shouldn't Hazon Ish said you should vote. Or, he said they said you should vote. No, he didn't say. So he says that you're arguing with somebody who's not alive. He can't He can't stick up for himself. I was going to say hi hi but now that we're both alive hi hi hi. And I'm I'm retracting. Fine. So they say this is one of the three stories that caused him to lose his misses because he embarrassed him like this. It's not the first time he made him stand up and embarrassed him like that. So twice he was one of the ruling class. He was the turner. He was the one like the the the the speaker. The He would say his thing and he would scream it out. And he said I'm with the and people start What are you What are you Stop saying your Let him sit down. As long as you speak you won't be able to sit. You're saying over Stop. And he stopped. So he lived a hundred years ago. He thought it was cute. It's a interesting thing that he says. He says why does he say he was from the ruling class? What does he add by that? So he says because the way we finished off was that after he went up to because he saw his tongue tongue in a heap in a pile of trash. He says how's how's it possible that somebody taught his tongue would be like that? So he says maybe you could say that this is a hint to this. That shouldn't have been speaking at that point. Shouldn't have He was embarrassing him. You saw that the was a threat at him and he told him to stop and maybe that was his so to speak. Okay. I don't know if you can say He says it, not me. Says the mission of Neman and Lo Yimar, "Haray zeh bechor zeh ubaal mum hu." I'm just We have to move. Okay. So, "Neman Lo Yimar Haray zeh bechor zeh ubaal mum hu." A cohen is believed, "I showed this animal to a rabbi, and he told me it's a good mum that I can check on it." O Rav Huna bar Rav says Rav, "Neman Lo Yimar Bechor zeh nosan li Yisrael be mum oi." He's also believed to say that a Yisrael gave me this animal and has a mum. "Mai ta'ama?" "Kol mishta'avis leegalui lo yishakker ben ishi." Another Yisrael. Why do you say this today? Every day. Anything that's going to be discovered, people don't lie. You can just go over to Yisrael. Is it true you gave the cohen an animal with a mum? He'll say no, so the cohen's going to look like a fool, so he's not going to lie about it. O Rav Ashi, "Af anan nami tanina." We also learned in our mishna, "Neman Lo Yimar Haray zeh bechor zeh ubaal mum hu." Oh, not that I got it from Yisrael, but I showed it to a rabbi. And the cohen, what's the reason? Why is he believed that he showed it to the rabbi? "Ta'ama deRav Huna bar Rav Kol mishta'avis leegalui lo yishakker ben ishi." the rabbi, "Is it true that he He showed you this animal and you said it's a mum?" "Lo. Hashta men our mishna, "Who de kodshim bechol le'achol." No one eats kodshim outside. So, maybe he's not going to want to eat kodshim, so he went to ask the rabbi if it's a good mum. O Rav Kahana, when he got the animal from a from Yisrael, "Kivan dehashid alayhu If if I If I don't trust him in the whole thing, so I shouldn't trust him at all." "Mishum shishvi hoy meli mishum neman al mai shehu kachli memishu neman o memishu master." So, this is also interesting. A new Yisrael, another new Yisrael. There's somebody called a neman. Neman means somebody who's a makpid on the kashrus. He won't purchase anything from an am ha'aretz. Cuz if you buy something from an am ha'aretz, you have to take two of the ma'aser. We don't trust Amora. So, he doesn't even buy from Amora. Not that he buys and takes ma'aser, he doesn't even buy. That's called what? An Amora. There's also somebody, another category, called Mimish Amora. He buys from Amora, but he's super careful and he takes two of the ma'aser every time. So, now if you have somebody who ate Mimish Amora and Amora. You have a guy that's not a 100% trustworthy when it comes to kashrut. And you tell him to go buy. I have a great video to show you. You tell him to go buy something from you. You can't trust him. He himself, for his own house, doesn't buy the most kosher stuff. So, how are you going to trust him that he bought from you from a somebody that's an Amora or not an Amora? He doesn't even make a He knows the distinction between this Amora or that Amora. Amora and Amora. Am I name it name Amora that the legal way Mimish Amora and Amora? Why? If he's going to tell you that he bought it from this and this store, you'll go and find out if he really bought it from that and that store. Shani also says the Gemara this lady he's going to lie to you. He says, "I thought I bought I thought it had a good hashgacha. I didn't realize I didn't know how to read it so well." I'll go buy it. So, let's see the video. Save the Oh, says the Gemara. Save of Adam say Allah. You know we have a good raya when you send the guy to buy garinim. That's a great raya. Why? Mishpali Amora and Amora. Khaira. You going to figure it out. You could ask the the store owner. Says the Gemara over there when I send you to buy something I I'm sending you. So, there's another person involved there. So, that's why you're going to be scared. Amora and Amora How do you know that a kohen who got an animal from a Yisrael you could They "Oh, I got it with a mum." So the verse says, I know big eagle karate. I said it over to Gido. The Gido cover with the day. But the truth is he said it wrong. Now when you throw, not never call you. Not a coin is believed to say I got an animal from a Israel. The Israel is believed. Not the coin. You see what happens when you say it over from I said it to Gido and Gido there and then until it got it got a little confused. I said that I trust the Israel. I never said I trust the coin that I get that he got it from Israel. Let me Israel say you might have why should Israel be believed? We're not regularly Israel is not we don't have a shot at maybe he's lying. It's all right. The cotton the egg dough. That there was a small animal and it got bigger. Now the same like Kimley. Who's going to recognize an animal? My name is Kimley Kimashma. The Surah Maslow Kilos in the bathroom. So I'm just going to take a page out of our Gamara literally. Here it is. In Surah they said the Allah is like the second lesson. Now what? That all the Israel is believed. In Pumbedisa said that even a coin is believed like the first lesson. He just shows you where Pumbedisa is where the Surah is beautiful. The Surah Maslow Kilos in the bathroom Kilos in the comma. The coffee the Kilos in the comma. The Allah is that even a coin is believed. Rav from Pumbedisa have a book raw. Rav from was in Pumbedisa and he had a heart. You have a coin below mum. Lot of stories today. He gave it to the coin without a mum. Also the show that he mum. The coin was a bad guy. He did it is to the rises a lot. He punched the hole let's say in the ear. You have a hard for the baby. Rav from the eyes became weak. I still come out. So this bandit this coin guy decided oh it's a great opportunity. Let's take advantage of the fact that he can't really see. I'm going to ask him to try a laser to come out. I'm a lay because it doesn't really scroll the mum. I got this firstborn from Israel. And it has a moment. Could you please take a look at it? So he he realized that there's some monkey business here. He forced his eyes open. He saw that he's a liar. He recognizes animal. This is the animal I gave you. I relate. Let me know if you have the law. Didn't I give I'm the owner that gave it to you. What are you lying to me? And nevertheless, Rav kept on saying that you could trust Kohanim even though you had a terrible story with the Kohanim untrustworthy trustworthy Kohanim. Why? How do the Kohanim This guy is a double Kohanim. First of all, he poked a hole in in an animal's ear. That's Kohanim number one. Kohanim number two, he comes to me and pretends He's trying to tell me that he got this animal from somebody else. I recognize the animal. See, us, we don't really recognize If you saw 20 sheep, they all look the same. But guess what? The shepherd, he could recognize every sheep. When you when you know dogs, let's say, every dog has a different They all look different. Says the There was an animal that was born. Obviously, you can't inject in one of the eyes a bunch of fluid and create a giant eye. He was born like this. How was it coming there? There's nothing to be concerned there. Equal, you know, Israel, whether he's a Kohanim or Israel. How do you know he might? He was born with a moment. Perfect. You could you could shaft it. All right, I do have a problem. He's coming by himself. Maybe he's Israel and he's a liar. I don't know if he's Israel. I don't think he might. I'm concerned that maybe this Israel is a Kohanim. Who knows? There's a big moment. He gets a header from the the rabbi to shaft it. He'll shaft it. He'll steal from the Kohanim. But he does not have any Israel eating outside of Israel. I relate. And he the Kohanim When does he have a problem with the moment? Does he have a something to do? He went outside. I'm a moment of the Kohanim Kohanim. If he You're right. There's no problem of neither because of the right or left or the I'm going to go we still have to be concerned that maybe he's still going to go make the other that he move move over cool. He knows that it's a bad move. My time has to come in the bottom. So why in the world if the guy looks at he sees a giant eye this big and a tiny eye. Every every person knows this is a major move that you could shift an animal. So why in the world did he come to the rabbi? You [clears throat] know why he came to the right because he's a good guy. >> [laughter] >> He wants to give honor to the rub. We learned already he's supposed to go to the rub to give him honor. So if he's marking on that he's not going to be he's not going to he can't be he's a gunner. My time has to come in the bottom. He surrenders if he's marking on small things of of course he's going to not do boys I have a wonderful week I would have to go for coming. >> [music and singing] >> Merit the source of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdy.sponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.dab.com.