CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 4 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Good morning. [screaming] I see the is tired. That means this is good evening. Good evening. All right. We're holding by. We had to stop short yesterday because the Israelis wasn't nice. They were waiting. So like I don't know 18 lines from the bottom she became Jewish her family remained non-Jewish her brothers would give her animals so she had a partnership with non-Jews made she came to ask if she's in does she have to give does she have to new opinion for the for the animals. No one holds aud that says that a partnership we hold a partnership you are again so for the new people the reason why he's named after his mother his mother was the daughter of and she was what's the word not kidnapped she was >> she was >> whatever she was in captivity and the what's his name Isura isura fathered this child Rahari later on he became a g and he got married but at the time he wasn't Jewish so that's why we don't mention his name is so but he's brought in many times he's the grandchild of and he's very of a person he had animals have so what did he do he make a kingion with a guy. He would sell it with money. Do a king. That's what a does. They're able to acquire with money. So he sold off the ears of the animal. So that of the animals there like this. He's potter from Ty says that that that's what we do. That's actually how we do it. We know how to do it a little bit better, different. It's more acceptable today. You see the Gar holds that it's it wasn't the right thing at the time but listen but he didn't he didn't do it as a listen to what he did he let all the that you do with you know how to wool you know how to work it and he he ended up giving it everything. However, nevertheless, all his animals died as if he did everything. He treated it like and he also gave it to the kite. So then why did he go through the whole trouble of making a key to the guy says he was concerned that people might ride this animal use this animal even though it's so right away he went and he took the away from it >> but not to gain from it he gave it to the so why was he punished the took away the of the from the Even though he didn't gain anything, at the end of the day, he did the wrong thing. Is as we're going to see, I'm sure we're going to talk about it a lot. [clears throat] I didn't take Do me a favor, Gian. Take some of the last slides, the one with the b the fetus with the nail, and put it in here for a second. That is that you cannot deliberately make a m in an animal as a k because if a kay gets a bkar first born he has to take the all the way to md you know how hard that is take a animal put it in a car even that the the little sheep that we got we had to rent a special car so that you know if it gets dirty well I didn't do it whoever it is put it in tie it down the whole thing shle it go go go go through the whole process like this. If it has a little bit of a problem with the ear, you just chuck that at home and that's it. So you see it's a big iss to to go ahead and give it a a m. But if it's in the mother's stomach, so it's still it doesn't have anusha. So you stick your hand in, poke it with a nail, make a hole in its ear, and it remains. It is now and it remains. So is asking so what's the big deal? What did he do here? He gave a partnership to a go beforehand and [clears throat] therefore as this animal's born it's not a it's not aar and that's it. It's a It's not It doesn't have It doesn't have When you make a hole in its ear, you got it. Or what's going on here? When you do that hole in the ear, when it's in you row, then it still goes to the cayen. You got rid of part of the but you didn't get rid of all the but in our case when you sell the ear to the guy there the zero nothing goes to the k you got rid of it completely. Another [cough] shot is that's it. No, didn't go in. That's a pretty long getting it. Whatever. We're on to the next. He used money and he made a real Kenyon. other people are going to see it and they're going to try to mimic it [snorts] and they're not going to know that he did a they'll think that he did something with his mouth. He said something and it's going to be a problem cuz other people are not going to know and they're going to without doing a good king they're going to try to do the same thing just by telling hey you're my partner and therefore people are going to end up using the makes is talking about [laughter] to redeem your firstborn donkey. Why? If they were able to [cough] cause the redemption of Israel in the desert, what happened in the desert? >> [clears throat] >> Interesting. The rabbi says like this. This is just from our gamar. I threw it in there. I think it's an hour. No, it might be in a different d. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw it. [cough] >> D. Why is it d? I don't know. We'll see. Maybe it's there. There were 22,000 Israel or we could call him but the name of that is there's 22,000. It sounds better. And Hashem said we have to transfer the Ducha of the because the Bkar used to do that. They don't deserve it anymore. We're going to give it to the Levim. So basically there 22,000 Lim that took the part of the 22,000 but there's more than 22,000 Israel. There's 22,000 273 Israel. Only 22,000 got redeemed by the Levim. 273 that's not important today. Today Sia 273 had to be redeemed by money. Why? Because there's only 22,000 Levim available to do the this transfer. Why? 300 of the 22,000 22,300 300 were the ley themselves they had some firstborns I don't know I I really don't maybe somebody could help me out my problem is that if you do the math 300 is a very very small number of it's only one and a half% do the math of regular society there's 50% firstborns 50% of firstborn borns are male. There's a percentage that is C-section. There's a percentage that's lean. But how do you go from 50% to 1 and a half% of Bkar? How is there only 1 and a half% BK? Now, now obviously there's more kids and this that it should be about 8 to 10%. >> 22,000. >> Mhm. >> 30 kids in one family. >> 600,000 divide by 22 is about 30. In the lady there were 85 kids in each family >> because 300 >> but they didn't have >> I know that's what doesn't make sense. You're saying that okay based on these numbers I hear [cough and clears throat] okay yeah if every family had 35 kids so then it makes sense then 1.3 are correct okay now that makes a lot more sense okay that's the answer probably [clears throat] okay but what does it say it says like this if you just read the simple wording the Mishna if the ley himself 22,000 they had the power to get rid of the of the is. So certainly they should be able to get rid of their own they should be able to be poisoned themselves if they're able the ley was poish I had that issue the the he was able to get rid of the so certainly he should be able to get rid of his own issues wait a minute how could a ley the person potter. So the understands the Mishna was saying that because Levy potters other Israelim. So they potter their animals. They potter the ley has a has a way to potter up his own. You don't need to do pigar. You don't have to do other uh other asking but it doesn't work like that gave a to other to other is the animal of the ley is what gave the to the other animals. It's not the ley gave the to the animals is the animal gave the ley was instead of the and the animal of the le. So what the mission means to say what the mission is the mission is not talking about humans the mission is only talking about animals and we're trying to get see how the animal of a ley doesn't need to do or any kind of why if in the desert the animals had the power to get rid of the of so certainly you should be able to get rid of their own but it doesn't fit into the wording of the just read themselves it really means okay fine if they themselves it says doesn't say they're animals it says if they themselves another problem If [clears throat] so, then the [snorts] the the kosher animals should [clears throat] also be their own their own kosher animals should be the they didn't get out of their own kosher animals. If they had a firstborn sheep, they had to do a pigeon. The only thing they got ped from is the we're going to see later on that the kohhanim's animals pottered the sheep of the Israel but their own sheep not what did they potter for themselves their own bkar today if a cayenne has a a or ley have a firstborn they don't do and if they have a pet or if they have a firstborn donkey monkey. They don't do but what they do have to do they have to give they have to redeem the first sheep or cow or whatever they have the kosher animals asking why should they why should they have to redeem their own first cow according to your they should be potter if their animals their their sheep have the power to potter the the sheep so why shouldn't they potter their own sheep This is we're talking about human beings. The doesn't have to do if they were have the power to take the the out of the certainly the bar who's going to do it thear of the ley shouldn't need shouldn't need to to do a he himself should be probably himself self says we see that a human being we just had a human being doesn't have to do but if he has a donkey how do you know he's in the same that talks about it continues same atomic animal so Therefore, if a who has to redeem his firstborn, he has to redeem the firstborn donkey. So a who doesn't have to do he doesn't have to do [clears throat] learning the talking about animals that if the has the has the power to get rid of the of Israel animal should get rid of his own said if comes out logic will tell us that only a ley that actually went through the process of removing ducha from Israel has the ability to remove his own that's if he had a sheep in the midbar but if he didn't have said but if he doesn't have a sheep to remove the he shouldn't have the ability to remove the ducha from somebody else question number one if a ley doesn't have a sheep how does he have the power to removed and then another question four questions. According to the ones that were counted, there are 22,300. Those are only animals that are above a month old. Those are the animals that were counted and they had the power to remove from the Israel. But under a month old, not it's another question. [snorts] Question number three. the women le didn't have they weren't part of the counting they weren't part of the 22,000 so therefore it comes out that if the mother is a ley let's say today we all know if marries anybody here married to a ley >> yes >> you so but you don't you're first born anyway you're you have a firstborn >> and you had a firstborn zar >> anybody had a for you had a firstborn zar the guy that just got married. He didn't have a pee in a bench. You're in that video. You're looking for to save the five married not you. I mean it's [laughter] Yeah. We learned if a a ley woman her father is a but she married Israel. >> But the question is why did he say that if if she wasn't part of this number the 22,300 she's not part of that number. If you're not part of that number just like the baby that's under a month old is not part of this number. So the baby shouldn't have the ability to redeem himself. And the the bas lady is not part of this number. Also her children should be in [clears throat] they're not says that the last one of the the woman is not is not is not a good question. It's the first born that comes out of the womb. So even if she's a woman lady, she's potter. What about a woman you that's married to a ley? If it's pet, it has to do with the mother. No. So in that case, obviously the f it goes by the father. But even in the case of the mother, if it's her first born and she's a she's popular another and final question wasn't counted in the 22,300 in the Why are the on you didn't write that yet? It usually means it's it's coming to to exclude something. Iron wasn't part of the 22,000. So it comes out that you hear the would have to do his own. He'd have to do he would have to on his on not on his animals he would have to do it. So let me ask you a question. Why animals? Maybe the question is on himself. Maybe he has to do his own. How do you know it wasn't >> was not a miriam was thear? Yeah, that's the answer. Couldn't have been the right. He had a sister that took him on the thing. And was older than three years older. So finally answers the call. So let's go back. What was the first question that we had? Anybody remember? What was the problem? Problem number one that if a Levy didn't own a sheep, it comes out that he shouldn't be able to have the power to redeem others. The answer is all of them are in the same category. The next question was what if you have a Levy that's less than a month old? He's still in the Pik. All the Lev are hookah. Next question, the son of Alvie woman. She wasn't in account. And then finally, we had also arro. All four of these are answered because they're all allim areim. And whether this particular lady didn't have a sheep or he's too young, it doesn't matter. All are in this parish. And they're all apart from we spoke about what the fame is. They're interchangeable. It says it brings one down. They say that. Yeah. Yeah. I already said it. Finish. How do you know that even in our generation? The word always the way they were then now they they still remain in the same exact way. How do you know that in the midbar they used sheep? Talks about redeeming a donkey with a with a sheep. That's for generations. And it also talks about money. for the in the it says that the 273 were redeemed, right? There was 22,000 that were able to redeem 22,000 is but there was an extra 273m that didn't have a redemption from the what did he do? Money. The says money. We use money in the midbar. So, so too let's let's compare money to the sheep just like money we use for future generations and also in the midvar so to sheep future generations and also in the midvar they use sheep says wait a minute maybe in the midvar they use money because money is something that you could do use it for if you have extra you have all this heavy fruit you don't want to you redeem it on money bring the money up to if you want to buy a car off the bdosh you give it to money and the car becomes yours. So money works. So maybe it works also to redeem you in the so we have in the same like we have before. So you compare the two when it comes to money we use money for future generations. use and later on we're going to see it's actually over there might be talking about in the desert that what one sheep can be used on a bunch of donkeys. How do you do that boy? How do you do that? You line up five donkeys and you say okay this one sheep is for the five. No, that wouldn't work. So, what do you do? You redeem the donkey with the sheep and you give it to the kay. It has zero gusha the sheep. It's just you redeemed it. You just like there's no gusha on those coins the guy gave me from a bed. There's no gusha in it. He redeemed it. It was a redemption. And then you go and you buy it back from the he as to give it to you. So, you keep on using the same sheep over and over. So tell me if this makes sense to you. Why do I think I said? Okay. The Tory tells you how many there were, how many is the war? 27 22,000 273 versus 22,000. It's very exact. And what do you do with the extras? Now, how come he doesn't talk about the animals? So it seems like and there was a lot more and animals that the Israel had than the it has to be that the Levim's animals used one for many of the what's the answer to that was that a good maybe the didn't have that many animals no that you can't say If they had so much that they didn't want to go into they needed all this pasture. So you see they had many many animals. But what the question is look let's say the had 100,000 sheep. But were there 100,000 sheep? They had 5 million sheep. But there's a 100,000 bkars. Male bkar. We just said it's it's a very low number. >> Not donkeys, right? >> Donkeys. No, sheep. Sheep. We're talking about sheep here. Sheep. You'll see in a second. It's sheep. The one one le animal is instead of many of the of the Israel. asked the when when the read this kiss from I was like I'm asking I saw the gamar quickly in the morning before ding and like I said wait a minute it says over here and that's exactly what the gar is talking about I guess I saw the p and then I I didn't realize it's in ya mish raba you use a singular with with a plural rabba Many say you're right. You could use it like in would mean many and then you don't have a from that one is for many. Maybe it means many for many. But the problem is in but be consistent in the same you can't use two styles. Can't use the word bea as many and then a second later say behem. So either say both words should be the word consistent. >> It's inconsistent. The two words in the same in the same. So say say both words for you see from here that one has the power to many. you use one animal to be. So then why why is sing over a because the is talking about in the midbar what happened in the midbar oh so we are talking about over here we are talking about abi is right >> no before it was sheep and now it's >> it is moved over >> the point is being a dump right but before >> no but it could also be pa no you're going to see soon that you can be use one sheep for for kosher sheeps also the sheep of The the Lim did do a opinion on all the sheeps >> their own not >> they switched now >> they switched >> okay anyways the point woman before I forget the point is why why do you repeat it they say that even in use one sheep to do a bunch of so we have a simple is over here The bkar that the init the in has the question is what do you do in the middle was the to all the in the midbar says there's no it's a sandwich like the the the right and the left yes in the middle It says in the there were already it says when you come there was there was only only when that came into this. So that day, listen to this. [music] Here's the before that they were using Obama here. Abama whatever you had. You had one of these in your backyard and you used those. But it says over here and who performed that Abkar. So what do you see that aar has duch in the midbar in the midbar they're using the bama so what are you guys going to say no what's the what's the ria exactly thear in the midbar did maybe from sure what's the in the midbar performed oh so you see this he became a in the midbar no it doesn't prove anything listen to their when did this whole thing happen here with the it happened a year after they came out of so if you tell me you can't use a from the from doesn't work just has to be I'm proving that the that was born in the desert he performed how old was he maximum he's a year old how could a one-year-old do perform with so what was he He says if a newborn baby becomes a so then the guy that came out of when he's 30 years old and he was a then he remains as a if a new baby doesn't become a so then the guy that came out of he should become notar and what's the answer to at there something called grandfathered in. You're right. All the new babies they don't becomear. But if you already you're born maybe it continues. I found out yesterday there's no such thing as grandfathered in. The word grandfathered in in Hebrew doesn't exist. The concept I guess doesn't exist. Maybe the whole idea. How do you say >> fine? Let's just finish right over here. Have a wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.