CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 40 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[chanting and singing] [chanting] >> Good morning Rabbi boys side. >> [screaming] >> Maybe the schmaltz and the marrows through the system. Part of however, right? So we're going to learn about a lot of interesting moment today. We're starting from the mission of brand new Sugya Lame at the summit base. Nifgam Hazoyvin. A lot of animals, I don't know if you ever noticed, but dogs also have this. They have a pouch that their male members in the pouch is a protection. Imagine unprotected could be dangerous for a dog. It's protected. When it needs to be used, it comes out, but it's in a pouch. If the actual outside of the pouch gets damaged, that's a mum. Variation on the cave. If you have an animal on a cave, now the cave cannot be a Bukhar. So must be that she's uh Bimukdashim. She's Hegdish. And that area gets damaged. Nifgam Hazona Min Atzam. Here it is. We have This is a tail. These are the things that could happen in the tail. So if the actual bone is damaged, that's what we're talking about right now. That's a mum. But if it's just in the in the joint, not Rosh Zona Mefatzel. The end of the tail is exposed. Those who don't know The end of the tail is exposed. The bone is exposed. That's a mum. There's no damage to the bone, but it's exposed. Mum. Now, this is interesting. We're jumping I'm just throwing everything on a You know what? Leave it over here. Let's Let's continue doing the mission. Nifgam Hazona Min Atzam. The vertebrae on the tail breaks off, a piece is missing. I will learn in a pair of my the end of the tail, the tip of the tail is peeled off. It says over here in parentheses, it sounds like a recent put that in or even after and I don't know. It's not a lotion of a Mishnah. That was the issue. That's the picture over here. In between vertebrae, you have >> [clears throat] >> um the flesh, meat. There's no there's no bone. Nothing broke. Just disconnected sort of. Now, how wide is a finger? How wide is a finger? I have No, you feel it. You feel it. You go like this. There's no bone over there. I'll say you feel it. It's mushy. It's rubbery. >> [clears throat] >> Look at my finger. I have this finger. And I have this finger. This one is, you know, 50% wider than this one. So, what's a finger? So, a tefach is built out of it's a certain amount, it's a certain measurement. It could either be You could either measure with pinkies or you could measure it with thumbs. If you measure with pinkies, it's six. Six pinkies equals one tefach. Thumbs, it's four thumbs. Says the Gemara, Omar Elazar, nifgam v'lo nital. Where we're talking about this pouch, this sheath, this protector, it only it's because it has a hole in it. V'lo nital. This is super interesting. Nobody would ever guess this. We had something similar in in chulin, where it's worse when you have damage to an organ, in this case the pouch, than to remove it completely. If you remove it completely, it's okay. It will grow back. But you damage Where do we have it by? The The tail. The spleen. If it has a hole in it, no good. If you remove it completely, it's okay. So, the Rishonim ask a simple question. What if you can remove the whole thing? So, then why is the whole a problem? You can remove the whole thing. Why is it a mum? So, just yank the whole thing off and then you don't have a mum. So, the answer is because What is it right now? Yeah, you can get a give it a procedure and bring it to the hospital and do a surgery and and even fix the hole. But, right now is it a mum, yeah? The animal is not going to survive, yeah? Yeah, you could pull it off. That's what they say. That's one of the answers. Kiss, the lower zachrus. If you're talking about the zachrus itself, so obviously if you take the whole thing off, it's a mum. But, if it has a small hole, it's the exact opposite of the kiss, the the the pouch. The zachrus, if it has a little hole, that will heal. If you remove the whole thing, that's a problem. When it comes to the pouch, if it has a little hole, that's the mum. If you remove the whole pouch, it's not a mum. Kid kiss with the zachrus. And that only is the pouch, but not the actual zachrus. A wolf removed the entire pouch and the grew right back to this animal. We said that if like this picture right over here, if there's no bone, the width of a of a finger. What finger? We're talking about thumbs here. We're not talking about pinkies or even that spot. Usually when you say means this finger. That's but but now it's not a finger, a finger. Which one? The wide one, the thumb. When it was said, this statement was not said in our Torah. This statement was just in general. Anytime they talk about talking about a thumb. Talking about the myth for putting a blue string on your the sign. How many How many strings does it have? No, how many strings do we have in our each one is is comprised of what? Four. How do we pass in then? This seems like what we do today. Or based on the way they >> Three strings. So, here's a period that I have to not bring the trailers to this. I think it was by Naftali Zansper says he gave me a a gift. I'll use it for this. I my scissors something happened to get dirty or something. Anyway, so according to the shot that we're going with the Rashi, it means how long does this part that has the street the knots in it? How long does it have to be? So, here you see on the picture four thumbs. You can see the thumbs. It has to be four thumbs and they still say three. And what what are we talking about? We're talking about a thumb. We're not talking about a pinky. I'm going to bring you to show my list the arm or is also beautiful. In the base of Migdal, they have two measuring devices. I'm going to show you a video. Achas. Al Karen Misrochas Twanis. Here we go. Let me just show you the video. What's the Shushan bureau? So, Shushan bureau was a depiction in the base of Migdal of Shushan. A non-Jewish city. To remind us to have fear of of [music] the king. >> [music] [music] >> These are the measuring devices. And they were slightly larger larger than that of Misrochas Misrochas was a one arm. The top one is Misrochas an arm. And these are each one is a half a finger [music] wider than the other one. The bottom one is a full finger wider than the top and the middle one is a half a finger. What kind of finger? Once again, the thumb. When when we're measuring gold and silver, we measure with a smaller one. When we measure the building, we measure with the larger one. It was a half a finger wider than measure of a thumb. Another half a finger. The bottom one was was one full finger wider than measure of a thumb. So, why do we have this? Let's say you're a contractor. So, you take out your measuring tape. You say, "Okay, I'm going to build 20 ft. How much is How much is the base of the base going to pay me for 20 ft? $100,000." And it turns out that you only built 19.9. You missed a half an inch. You missed half an inch, you're stealing from the base of the base. You're stealing. They paid you money to do your job. You didn't. So, to avoid the the theft, >> [clears throat] >> the Torah calls him Ela. It's not so much an Ela in Ela. You don't have to bring a carbon. But you should go guard it. It's better not to steal from the base of the base. So, they added a little bit. So, that's for cement work, for blocks, all that stuff. But what about gold and silver? They can't go crazy and tell the guy, "Give me a full finger more." That's a lot. So, what I need two extra sticks? I don't have a lot of money. When it comes to building, you'll let it add a little bit more. Gold and silver is a lot of work. Less. What's this whole thing about a thumb? A thumb of four is four four thumbs make a thumb. What what are you talking about? Ah, comes back to our mission. The lower aspect of if there's there's no vertebrae in the tail and you put your thumb there and it fits right in there, that means it's a mom. If an animal doesn't have any base him or he ain't loyal beats or or if only has one so the one is going to ask right away If one is a mom so none is certainly a mom what do you have to tell me two cases of zero and one We're small yes beats him so we're going to have a three way we're small says When there's two pouches that indicates to me that it has beats him if you don't see it that's your problem but it's there Sometimes it hides sometimes it's embedded somewhere But it has it has a minute there's no mom you just can see from the outside two pouches we're good English what if it only has one pouch and that that indicates to me there's only one beats so one beats is a mom We give us there's a medical procedure you sit him down on his rear And you press you massage it until it pops out Or eventually it'll come out If if it's there it'll come out if you don't see it then but you can't assume anything we give a argues on the point we're going to see a little bit more clearly in the tomorrow He says I agree and I don't agree I disagree I'm I'm like I I argue with both of you That was if There's A pouch without a beats that's no indication that it's a mom cuz maybe you don't see it let's do a let's do this procedure we just I don't have to do any procedure it's automatic it's not a mom And it's automatic that it's not a mom because of this for sure beats that comes and says no it's automatic a mom we give us let's check it If you check it and and there's no beats then then it's a no beats says the matter my soul admission my sister mirror yotes us They did this procedure they squeezed nothing came out but it's hot The name says something that you could think about what do you think Cuz we had a we had a pretty overwhelming majority saying one way If you open up this pouch and you find the beats you didn't see it before but you start searching you take a magnifying glass you this it's in there somewhere Is that a mom or not a mum? What would you say? The other guy would say, "Look, at the end of the day, it's there. The the the organ is there. It's there." Mr. Cheney, it's there in the wrong way. It's there. If there's a kidney, but it's hiding in in the skin somewhere, is that a kidney? Yeah, it's there, but it's but it's not Yeah, you can go both ways, maybe. But most of the people said like you. >> [clears throat] >> So when he really says means that it means it's two like Solomon, he checked it and I found it. The hidden evil of also gives us way. It's there. And so is it for carrots? The hidden means that it's a mum according to Akiva. Also it's not a mum. So the moral of the first question asked actually they I'm really having a mum. If he only has one that's a mum So if he has zero, of course it's a mum. So here's the three way to say about pet. What's important is the top one. I would make it a little larger those words, but the point is if he if there's all if there's two pouches and one beta what's that according to automatically a mum. I don't have to check. I don't I don't give this two pouches. I see one beta that's a mum on the spot. The response says from for carrots. He's on the mammoth because of the casa. Since there's two pouches, automatically that tells me there's two beta. You don't see it. That's your problem. You don't know how to check. I would give this as I argue with both of you. It's not a mum. It's not not a mum. If I check and I can't find it, then it's then it's a mum. But first you have to check. So may I say good morning to you English say beta kissing you say a lot. So we're going away from the beta. We're not talking about beta. We're talking about the pouch. What's important over here is the pouch. If there's no you don't have two pouches. You only have one pouch. That's the mum. You know I mean stay kids even if you have two pouches there's only one beta. There is no more than a mum. The response says kissing me she's two beta. So the opinion I don't do any checking. I don't do any What's the word I'm looking for, doctor? Examination. I see two pouches, I know there's two Beitzim, not a mum. Video is sh'tei Ain Lo Likiseh Choder and if he only has one pouch, you can say Ain Lo. Everybody say Choder Dami. If there's only one pouch, it's considered one Beitzah. One Beitzah equals mum. What's Rebbe Akiva the Main Man and then another Rebbe Akiva says, "We do a Lo Yeminan. I don't know what to mum anything." And then Rebbe Shimon Akiva put him on the examination table. Rebbe Akiva massage. He means Beitzah so if a lot says if there is actually a Beitzah there, you wait a little bit, it'll come out. Great. Rebbe Akiva Shmuel Rebbe Akiva says Rebbe Akiva Rebbe Akiva says Rebbe Akiva says Rebbe Akiva says Rebbe Akiva says they did this examination, didn't come out of an Ishut and they found it in the Google search engine and they actually found it. It was in a funny place. It was in the loin somewhere. Rebbe Akiva Rebbe Akiva said this is considered a mum. What's Rebbe Akiva Nuri? Only Rebbe Akiva Rebbe Akiva Nuri is not considered a mum. So, that means you can't eat it. You shucked at this animal, what are you going to do with this animal? What are you going to do with it, Rebbe Akiva said? You got to bury it. You got to bury it. Yeah. A couple hundred pounds of meat. Bury it. [clears throat] Rebbe Akiva said to Rebbe Akiva Rebbe Akiva said, "Throw So, Yosel Rebbe Akiva says, "When are you going to stop wasting Klal Yisrael's money?" Rebbe Akiva said to Rebbe Akiva Rebbe Akiva said to Rebbe Akiva "Ad Mosai Atah Machil Yisrael Nevailos?" So, what what the obvious question here that everybody should ask is why is this Sugya different than any other Sugya? If I say something is assur, and you say something is muttar, then you are ruining it for Klal Yisrael. You're wasting their money. I hold that it's assur. What do you mean I'm wasting their money? I hold that it's it's not a mum. Take this animal, bury it. What do you mean you're wasting the steak? Hm? It was already shucked at it. So, why am I yelling at the at the at the regular manure for wasting class for his money? Regular manure holds it's not a mom. Not a mom, bury it. I hold it's not a mom. >> That is a beaver. I'm going to misspell it. >> Can. You shucked it outside. It's a country goat. >> The mic you said? >> Mhm. It already happened and they went out they found it. What happened? They shucked it and they found they found it buried. They found it buried. Anyways, I could point you have to say you have to say this he he thought it was more of a humbug than anything. So, don't be mad when class was husband. If you momish held that it's 100% awesome in the right zone, why would he tell him it's momish in Israel? Coupon him. Says the Gamorah, love Mishnah Shakte. Asks the Gamorah, I don't understand. How could it be an availer? An availer means when you don't shuck the animal drives dead. But, if you actually performed the shuck on it, then you found out that you can't eat it. That's not an availer. Hello, it's treifas. You're right. We found out it's a treif, not an availer. We'll just fix the lotion. You're right, the lotion is a little off. Says the Gamorah, it used to be treif as well. If an animal only has one kissed, not two, that's not a treif. Hello, I must have to mark you so cultured in the culture. You momish have to make a real change over here. But, basically why are you telling why why are you eating this animal outside of the base of Migdash? That's the problem. Not that it's an availer, not that it's treif. Said, no, momish. Momish. You're allowing it to eat. In other words, you're saying it's a mom and immediately you're allowed to eat it. So, you're eating I hold I hold it's cultured and you shouldn't have just shucked it outside of the base of Migdash. You hold it's not cultured, it's a mom. So, you are eating you are feeding cultured to class Israel outside of the base of Migdash. Says the Mishnah Baal Homish of the lion, what if it has an extra foot here, extra foot, extra leg. Which animal in the show is only three? Mishnah Ragbaal, Clutose Kish Hamar. So, here. This is a Hamar. You see this? It has it's a round thing and it doesn't have here in this you got to look over there. Doesn't have a split hoof. Very good. Thank you. This is split but also pointy. So, it has two things going for it. This is a kosher animal. So, what it's saying here, the Gamara tells us, as long as it's round, even if it has a split like that, it's round and has a split, that's a mum. It says you don't need two things. You don't need the shape and non-split. If you have the wrong shape with a split, it's still a mum. We're going to see that in a second. What does that mean? Here we go. It's It's a thigh bone came out of its socket. Dislocated. Oh. Now, what if that kid is broken? What if that sinew? So, you have to be in there. If it's broken, that's actually a treifa. So, this is just dislocated. The What does it mean? One of its thighs is higher than the other one. Wait a minute. You see You see that the left one is higher than the right one. It's going to show you even clearer. With the Oh. Only the the front part of the animal, the the the front legs, the front feet, that's where we talk about I have a But when it comes to the the the rear feet, treif and I mean I have it. If it has too many, it's considered a treifa. Why? The When it comes to the rear, that we learned in the treifa, so if you have three, it's as if one is missing. One is missing, so actually says it's literally as if you have a whole leg. Imagine only have two legs and it was missing. So, then you have a leg chopped off by the by the thigh. That's treifa. Over here, logically it's chopped off by the thigh. Mama, it becomes a treifa. That's what I showed I jumped it but I'm sorry this one right over here. Don't say that it's round and doesn't have. The split since it's round like in this picture I forgot this big on even though it does have a split hoof that is a moment why because the shape of it is too round. One is above the flank one is below tone us through about call it through should I be so in other words one is longer one limb is longer than the other culture clue toys through on split on split hoofs. If his bone broke the front back you can't really see it you don't see a broken bone but you can tell you can tell that it's broken but you can't it's not moving out of the city this is I love that we already had like 10 ago said this is part of the list of moment the whole of it with both ways and he added three more all the way LS 81 only heard these. What did he add Chicago Google Auto. His eye is round like that of a human being. And his mouth is that of a pig we have all these things that she need to rub so part of the tongue is attached to the back of the mouth part of it moves around chopped off his tongue says you more any make a habit of if you can't tell that he has a broken bone why is it a moment you can't see the break when you look at it when he starts to walk around. That's not a moment moment the main road so we're talking about the eye. The love I know him. So let's see the eye for a second. So every human, so if you're talking about the pupil So Rashi over here, it's not clear what he says cuz different gears. He says it's not round like a person. It is round as it gives us it's not round. Somebody says it says it is. It doesn't matter. The point is that one of these shapes is not like a human being. In other words, you say that the pupil is round, so you're going to say the main the love I know him. You're telling me that uh a calf, let's say, its eye is different than Here, we had this one. I know cats' pupils are different. I don't know about a I never noticed a cow's. Here, a human's pupil is round. What about a sheep or a cat, let's say? It is? Over here, we just have to take a look and you'll see. It's very different than a human eye. I call upon him. The more it says for me now tells me the name of a kind of a life. If a woman lay lay no gives birth or she miscarries something that looks like a like an animal, like a coyote, like a bird. Brings me in between them. Doesn't matter if it's a a kosher animal or not kosher animal. In Zohar, if you can tell that it's a male take shave Zohar and the cave and take shave and the cave and you do a take shave Zohar and the cave. What's going on? Very, very simple. So let's do this together real quick. If a woman gives birth to a male, she's automatically uh to mayo for 7 days. No matter what. But me the right so we don't do it today like this, but me the right so after the 7 days she has 33 to her days no matter what. Even she sees them, she's 100% to her. 7 + 33 = 40. If she gives birth to a the cave, all the numbers are double. So for the first 2 weeks she's 100% to mayo. But then she gets 66 freebies, 66 tahor days. No matter what, if she's she's done, tahor her. We don't do it like that. Total of 80 days. So, if we don't know, we look at this funny thing that came as like some sort of bird-looking thing, and you can't discern is it zachar or a nekevah, what do you do? You have to be machmir in all areas. Machmir meaning she'll be tamei for the most amount of days. Meaning how many? But, tahor, how many days will she be tahor? Wrong. It's Yeah, to the end of 33, which is really how many? 26. In other words, yeah, I'm saying you got you got it. That's the idea. You get only the 33 tahor days, but actually it's even less than 33 because we had to chop into it because we give her 14 tamei days instead of seven. If it would have been seven, she would have had 33. You only go up to the 40 in total, 26. Okay. It's really bad situation over here. D'vrei R' Meir, this is what R' Meir holds. R' Meir bar R' Nachman says R' Meir, why does he say this? R' Meir, why does he say this? This sort of that came out You see from here it's normal that the pupil should be similar to that of a human being. We treat him like a human being. R' Eliezer ben Yaakov You're talking about the pupil. R' Akiva. You're talking about the socket. So, maila, the socket is different. Here we go. Here. See, the shape of the socket, if the shape of the socket is that of a human being, oh, like that, then you have a mum. Beautiful. R' Ovadiah Yosef R' Meir bar R' Nachman says R' Meir, it's interesting in the kallah. Some of the oilam held that some people are offended [clears throat] by a picture of a chazer. Even though we're talking about a chazer, we're learning hilchos chazer. So, look what we had to do for them to We had to like blur it out a little bit. >> [clears throat] >> If the mouth is that of a chazer, what does it mean? The upper lip extends. That if you have that by a by a kosher animal, it's treif. Take a look at I love the way nose happens. take Oh, you saw that little jump? That's give all the the little So, the front is round. The front is round. And so, if an animal has a round front, so if the lip that's normal, great. If it extends too much, that's treif cuz it extends like a pig. But it says the Gamara, you don't we don't care if it's round that round. That part doesn't bother us. The tail of the shovel that it's round or porous and it it overlaps. And look, even the porous since it protrudes out of a pig even though it's not round, that's a mum. Most of the tongue, the talking part of the tongue, the the part that moves is out. That's systematic review day. It doesn't mean the entire tongue like what what we eat, what they sell in the butcher shop. This goes all the way back to the to the back of the throat. We're talking about the part that it's not attached to the How do you say the the bottom of the mouth? The lower palate. The part that's not attached to the the part that moves. Says the Mishnah, "Myces shall I get out to the valley?" Well, another story. That the bottom, not the top, the bottom protruded out. When it's a mum, underbite. Well, we're going to see if it's any bite at all. Maybe it's just the lips. Maybe there's no bite. My time of the 20 of myces, what do you tell me a story when you don't have a halacha? Well, what what is this where does this story have to do with anything? We we were discussing the overbite. And then you're talking about the underbite and there's a story about underbite. Says in the Mishnah that the We're talking about the overbite. We're talking about the upper lip. Seems like the bottom one overlapping is definitely a mum. And in fact, there's a story after we said that that the bottom one protruded. It's a mum. This this halacha of overlapping underlapping this is all only by human beings. Overlaps the bottom one where does it say the famous possuk ish shish you coin diet fine has to look similar to Aaron Koin's descendants can't have any abnormalities otherwise that's considered a mom. When there's a underbite overbite we're talking about bone there's a bone involved once there's a bone okay you had a little bit of a Botox thing going on with his lips that's not the biggest moment in the world. Okay says the Mishnah you have a double ear so you can see the cartilage in the right the right ear the right picture is it's all one that has the same cartilage that's a mom. But if it does a little bit you know extra skin going on there a little extra ear that's not that's not a mom. >> [clears throat] >> I want you to read this with me cuz I had a little bit of a a question. If the tail of the goat I'm going to show you a nice video is similar to that of a p i g and it doesn't have or it doesn't have three vertebrae how would you read it? Ask Americans how do we read this? We're talking about the tail of a goat that's similar to a pig and it doesn't have three is it it referring to the goat or referring even to a cow and to a sheep? So Ravuna actually read it as one. That Not that it's one alacha, but it's referring to one tail. We're talking about the tail of a goat, and that's why he made a little bit of a boo-boo, the Gemara says. Tana bar na. K'vulam. If his mouth is swollen, and his feet are swollen, if it's because of the weather, because something he breathed in, he was he was vaping, and that caused his mouth to to to to explode, it's not considered mum. Machmas. I'm talking to you, Yossi. Yeah. Machmas estem, are they the mum? If it's because of a bone, that's a mum. Az of fulois, if his ears are double, b'chas chasus, achas are they the mum? It's one cartilage. B'stei chas chasriois, ein a mum. If it's two separate ones, it's not a mum. It doesn't mean we What What What's the first thing that comes to mind when we're talking about a a a a pig's tail? It's very short. So, I'm saying no, it's not the fact that it's short. The point is that it's not it's not wide. It's it's it's not round. A pig >> [clears throat] >> I skipped it, but a a pig's tail is round. And a sheep's tail is wide, wide and narrow. And that's the problem. If it's round like so, Oh, here, the Gemara says, it's not p'shat that it's very small, the p'shat is that it's super round. And if you have Check this out. You have a sheep that has a tail that looks like this. I love the way they put a little straw on its wall, you know, like the mommies looks like it's taking a natural picture over here. If it's a round tail, and not the wide tail, this is a mum. You wouldn't believe it, this is a mum. Al od kricho, it's round. I forgot dalim, even though it's thick. So, this is just the I'm a who is Ravuna? Oh, what's a mom? Says Ravuna, if it only has two vertebrae, then it's a mom. And by sheep, if it has three vertebrae, it's a mom. If it has four, it's not a mom. The problem is that that's not what it says in the Mishnah or in the Brycer. Oh, I'm going to finish time and it's a mom. Show us your mom. The flesh is a mom. I buy in a mom. May say the problem is it says big D a casa raise a mom. You need to look at this. Only one is a mom. Two two is not a mom. Ravuna, why are you telling me two is a mom? Let's push the button over here. One is a mom. What does Ravuna say? Two is a mom. So, we have a little bit of a problem. The more it remains that it's a problem. Should I mean a mom? It's less time I raise a mom. So, I shouldn't a mom. To you to the Ravuna, it's a bomb question. And the more it explains Ravuna must need to say he was confused. What what got him saying this that two? You will serve in the ratio big D Stephen I big D. So, it's interesting. Rashi says the ratio means always in a big D or a pool. The whole Mishnah is talking about a big D. I would think like Yossi thought, I didn't even correct him cuz I just thought this morning. Cuz the Mishnah says Zena big D should be a casa. Right there it says it. You don't have to go to the beginning. The reason why Rashi went to the beginning of the Mishnah is cuz Rashi didn't have the word big D. It just said Zena should be a casa. Any tail. Anyways, so Yossi's okay. I didn't give him a hard time. The point is that it's to Ravuna it seemed like the whole Mishnah is talking about a big D and it says before saying the shall I say in other words two is a mom. That's what confused him. But no, the Mishnah is actually talking about a sheep, not a goat. I guess I guess we have to stop here. Yeah, it's almost Shacharis. It's almost the Kaddish. My boys say mazel tov to the fixes and the Hodans, the Deutsches. Have a wonderful day. >> [music and singing] >> Merit the zechus of spreading Torah throughout world. Sponsor a sheer today. mdy.sponsor.com or [email protected]