CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 49 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> Good morning RAB BOYS I DO YOU DO YOU MEAN SERIOUS BUSINESS THIS MORNING? HI, WELCOME to all the guests. I see some guests over there. So let me just show you this real quickly so we get into the Sugya. Here my Sugya and we're holding two lines from the bottom of the Menachem Bais. Here we go. Check this video out just to explain what's going on here. We're talking about two husbands that have two separate wives. And they had two babies, two boys. One with a light blanket, light blue and the other one with a dark blue or black, whatever I can't see the color. Let's call it black. So the Litvisher guy is holding the light blue blanket. And there was a mix-up in the babies. That's part of the Mishnah. Then they go and they give the five slaim to two separate if they had them before the baby's 30 days old. And then there was a Levaya and they don't know Nobody knows whose son it is. There's a mix-up. So they come and they ask for their money back. >> My five slaim please. One of our boys passed away within 30 days. >> Is the doctor there is both saying at the same time? Ask him. Or they were not at the same time. The point is they're both demanding it. So each Cohen that received the five slaim say I I got the five slaim for a live baby. He's alive today. Each Cohen will say the same thing. So you push them all You push them both out and nothing. Ask the Gemara "Mishna Shteikyu Hanem." Does it go by Matli or does it go by Matli? Why is this different when each Cohen can push them off? What's the difference? Let's say there was one Cohen in the Bais. The same story, only one Cohen. And each one gave five slaim. And each one comes to demand his five slaim back. The Cohen tells Reuven, "Your baby is alive." Then he tells Shimon, "Your baby's alive." How much should I give back to you? Why should I give you back the money? He has 10 slime. Five of them he doesn't deserve, but he doesn't know who to give it back to. So, he says, "Listen, it's not you. It's him." Then when that guy comes, he says, "Not him, it's you." What? Omesh Moosh, what does Moosh say? The Baba Bar Isha. >> [clears throat] >> The Baba Bar Isha. What does that mean? What What does What does our Isha mean? Oh, what does our Isha mean? Rabbi say, "Remember?" Power of attorney. You put it off. Show you just the the video real quickly. We have it on fast speed. >> Exactly. You got divorced, and 7 months later, I had this sweet boy. >> 2 months plus 7, 9. SO, HE'S MY SON. >> OKAY. What is >> Give it to me. >> When you come as a team, if you come as an individual, so then the kind can push you off. He says, "It's not you." Not you. But if you come as a team, you say, "I gave the other guy power of attorney. Now we're coming together." Me Monashak, you have to give us back the five slime. They could get the five slime back. Omesh Moosh the Baba Bar Isha. They're coming with a document. They're not coming individual. They're coming as a team. When you come When you go as a team in everything in life, you come as a team, it's a lot stronger. But I'm in our doll. But wait a minute. You can't say they come as a team. You don't write our Isha on money. Says the Gemara, "I don't mean the kafri." If the kind would deny the claim, so you don't do that. You don't write an our Isha or you put it off. A power of attorney. I will hate the like after against we know. But when nobody He's not denying the fact that he got 10. He's just saying, "I don't know who to give it back to. Maybe you're the Maybe your your son is still alive. Maybe your son is not." So, at that In this case, we could write an attracter. I had a meeting last night till 12:30 in the morning. Then he was there. One of the guys in the meeting said that he does the shear every day with nothing but the daf. It was the first time ever that he came to live sheer. In the beginning he said he saw this movie this video this video. And then he said, "Now I realize why the videos are good." He says, "It's stuck in my head. Now I remember the sugia. I remember her show." He started saying, "The videos actually they play Yeah. I didn't hear but the video this this is sugia never forget. Says the Gemara unikeva ain kind of klum. So I I did a little truva today this morning. I just made it a little easier to understand the sugias. A very easy sugia I'll just make it even easier. There's one case in the Mishnah that says if a a person had two wives as not a person two people had two wives. Stay in oceans two oceans. And then the Mishnah goes on to describe four different cases. We're not going to go through these cases. Two males two females two females with a male two two females and two two scarum. Okay, in that case we don't it could be the the females are born first four case four different cases. Then we go to another case in the Mishnah. All right then. Two [clears throat] men are married to two women but one one's wife already had children before and one didn't. And then the Mishnah gives us two cases. Shnei scarum and zocher unikeva. Great. So now the Gemara says Tani Ravuna shnei scarum unikeva. So Ravuna adds another case. So the question is well how come it's not in our Mishnah? In case number in the the the prior case in the Mishnah we had four different instances. Ravuna says we have another instance. It's a greater instance. There's two males and a and a female. Also what's the what's the law in this case what do we say? Two males and a female he has to do a pinyon or not? No. Why? Because it's two men. So each man is going to say mine is a nikeva. I gave my wife gave birth to a nikeva. So there's zero Okay, so it's a nice case. Why don't you say it? No no no. Yeah, the one that had that that his wife never gave birth will say my wife is a a nikeva. So it says the Gemara Tani Ravuna shnei scarum unikeva ain kind of klum. It kind of did don't. it? come our mission looks like this and not like this? How come the third case is not mentioned? This case obviously this case obviously does not apply when there's one husband. Why? Because if there's one husband and there's only and two wives and one of them came over you would have to pay you would have to you would have to pay Look at the mission. So this is just just to review. We're talking about a case that two women never had children. They had two husbands. And then and then Rav Puna says they're not a third case another case how come the mission because it only applies when there's two husbands. But if there's one husband and the two women never gave birth he's for sure at least the one pin of a ben even though there's a girl involved there. Says the mission may What if the son died before 30 days? Yeah even though he prepaid the pin of a ben obviously the coin has to give back the money. Why? Because he never got to the time the the point of heel. But what if the the the son died after 30 days? After a bishop knows any 10 so this is the law that we said before that if the kid died after the heel of pin of a ben so even though he's dead now the father had a heel to be parted to him. He's parted the he's he's not he doesn't exist anymore. He's dead. But yeah he has to do pin of a ben. What if he dies on day 30? He should have fun of 30 is like 29. He wasn't alive for a full month yet so he's You don't have to pay. You have a key by mayor if you lost your toe then you lost your toe. You says no no no there's a stuff here. And since there's a stuff here so depends. If you prepaid already then you can't take it back from the coin. Why? I must have a lot of money. I have a safek and maybe it belongs to the coin. If he didn't pay then the coin shouldn't take from you because I was a coin. It depends what happened there. But it's a safek and the Gamorah is going to explain why it's a safek. It's not a question. Another kind of a riddle. A person gives a woman money. And it happens a lot. You get engaged and you know that the engagement is going to last if you're Litvish at least 2 months. Chassidish maybe a year. Kids let's let's call 2 months. He gives the kallah says listen I want to give you the ring the the the ring instead of me giving it to you by the chuppah let me give it to you now. Okay. Give it to you now. And you'll be engaged. You'll You'll be chall when when we get married then. And then she goes ahead and she she sells the ring. She uses the money. She goes bungee jumping whatever. Good good good good kiddushin or not a good kiddushin? At the time of the chuppah there's nothing left. Zero zero. But a month earlier 2 months earlier by the engagement party he gave her the the ring. What's our law here? You say it's good? Good good. So the law here is it's good. It's good. So let's see. Why do the Rabbanan why do Rabbanan say you need 31 days? There was an opinion of Ben there was opinion of Ben in the midbar and over there in the midbar my husband and my law it says the words Here we go. Do you remember choidesh? And it says at the bottom one of choidesh and my law is in the midbar. It says the word of my law. My law means a little bit more than choidesh 31 days. My law is 31. So in the other opinion of Ben meaning the opinion of Ben on the top for all rights for the rest of history it's 31 days. Reb Givens is not clearly Reb Givens is wait a minute. I I agree with you that's 31 days in the midbar but who says it's for the rest of of generations? Why? We have a concept in all Shas that if the Torah says something once, that's enough to teach us for the entire Torah. If the Torah says the same thing twice, that means don't teach it to the rest of the Torah. Why would the Torah bother saying it twice? If the Torah said it twice, it's only these two places. Well, guess what? It says the word of a mala again by Erechin. What's Erechin? This is Erechin when a person uses the loshon Erech ko alai and he points to a little kid. So, you look, "Oh, he's under 5 years old, so he's only worth five sela'im. He's between 5 and 20, he's worth 20." Etcetera. He looks at a girl, he says, "Erech ko alai." So, if she's between 5 and 20, it's 10. The Torah says when it comes to 60, the Torah uses the loshon of mibben shishim shana umala. It's a 60 and a little bit. Also, shnei ketuvim bamidbar is twice that the Torah says the word of a mala. So, perhaps it's only in these two places, by Erechin and by pinui habben in the midbar, but not in pinui habben that we do today. Middis bamidbar umala gabbei Erechin, since we say that the word umala twice regarding midbar, why did why did the Torah say it again? Learn from the midbar that when I give you a number, it's a little bit more. Therefore, aval shnei ketuvim bamidbar, that that's already two ketuvim to say the word umala. The kol shnei ketuvim bamidbar, eima lamed can't learn from that pinui habben regular. Aidilmo, he eima lamed then la'almo. Aval legufa yumelamedem. You're right, don't take the word umala for the rest of the Torah for sukkas and Pesach or whatever, but for the halachas of pinui habben, and let's learn from the midbar the pinui habben that we do today. Just like in the midbar, say 31 till 120. Why not? That maybe you could do. Aval legufa yumelamedem. Shmuel Safrai, that's why he says Rebbi Akiva have a safek. Safek, don't take it out from anybody. If the money's by the Yisrael, you don't take it out of him. If the money's by a kohen, take it out of him. Omer Rebbi Asi, "Hakol moydim le'ein aveilus yom shloshim keyom shel shana." Everybody agrees when it comes to a veil loss that if the kid was the kid died on on 30 day 30 so we're not going to do a soft here we're not going to do we're going to go with the make all what is make all mean you go you don't have to do a veil loss you don't have to do a make all by by a veil so the the point over here is and when it comes to a veil loss even though you have your own gears your own you you want to be more you want to but this is not a law we go by a law for now you not your feelings but by a law can never have make all I'm a male of a male of a law can never have make all by a veil so says the mission may still have such a situation the first guy should have that you have your own ration of them if a father dies later later before the opinion I been most likely what do you say did the the person pay early no most likely didn't pay in fact we have a famous tomorrow that says that if a person dies before he has a star he owes a million dollars to to the he owes a million dollars to the he owes a million dollars and he has to pay back on Purim and he dies five days before Purim we have a you didn't pay back there's no you didn't pay back it says in the star he has until Purim he has Purim so he can go and claim from the assignment oh the first guy should have that you have your own ration of them this is a person doesn't pay early for the opinion I been but I actually this is a forget no most people I know do the opinion I been on the day but this guy died so maybe he's a little sick but this is a he paid on time who lived sorry the last guy should have that you have your own ration of them this is a forget this is a that he did pay the the ration says the rule but the issue a video for me out most people don't pay right away okay now great stuff why who lived as a lived as you have a situation where we have a father and a son what's the situation what's the case cases you know by the two of them or something a father and a son they find out there's no Ben. Here we have a stick of uh >> [music] >> How old is your son? >> I have good news and bad news. Who lived His son is first. She firstly I love him. All of my I love. She firstly I love him. Look at the tire. The tire says Who has the to be the person himself or the father? First the father. Now if there is no father then goes the son himself has to be himself. But make a the tire is telling you the father should be the son. So my mailer when a father is faced with a with a dilemma he only has five slime in his bank account and his son didn't do he didn't do just discovered the tire. >> [clears throat] >> So who comes first? He is to be the son. Him himself that was his father's here. If he has more money he'll be get more. >> [snorts] >> I put this on my yard. If somebody What happens if somebody does do Ben before 30 days? So we're going to see that this is not that's possible it's not good. If you want to do the Ben on day 15 100% not good according to everybody. Laughter mine if you give the money on day 15 but you say it's going to be how after 30 after 30 days. This is the money is readily available. That is not good. Over here there's no at all. I give the money on day 15. I tell the hold on to it but I don't want it to be how until day 30. No hold on to it. He's saving the money for you. He's a bank. He Where is the Where does he want to say that doesn't work? Laughter mine is not mine. When he says specifically I'm giving them Here take these five coins today. On day 15, but it's only going to be halal, it's only going to work on day 30. And he went the coin went and used up the money. Used up the money. It's great cuz it works by kiddushin the same way. A kallah and he says, "Let's we're going to get married in 30 days." It's a work then. And she goes ahead and she uses up the the ring, it works. So too, when it comes to opinion of Ben, look, he gave he did a he did a ma'aseh, he gave the other thing. And there's a certain halois afterwards, and that's it. Oh, which one am I allowed to That's exactly what Shmuel says, very good. Over there, had he wanted to be get him get married, he could have got married right away. So she's only after the money. Over here, there's nothing to do the the the ma'aseh with. It's gone. She There's no kid. You're waiting for a kid to develop to be 30 days old, but there's no mitzvah today. So at the time that he gave it, there's nothing. At the time that it he was already available, there's no money. So it doesn't work. Perhaps. The pleader Shmuel and Shmuel we have a concept in Shas. The law is always like Rav when it comes to issurim, and always like Shmuel when it comes to money matters to the din. Hacha, hilchos of say the Shmuel, over here the halacha is like Shmuel. Even though it seems like from the Gemara that it's issurei, we pasken like Shmuel. What's issurei? Issurei doesn't mean issur like it's assur. We're talking about a halacha that you have to do XYZ. So that's issurei. How did he do that that halacha with money? Now, we're going to bring a raya two rayas from our mission and the same answer. If the baby dies before 30 days of even [clears throat] if he gave the money to the coin and she gave it back time of the maze it's because the kid died. All the maze below party. You gave the money before 30 days and it works and we're talking about what has to be didn't he didn't say it should have work right now cuz then it for sure wouldn't work. So he said I wanted to work later on and you see that it works. Not like small. How come you have to say because the money is still readily available and now we said there's no argument between the money is still available even though he gave it to him on day 15. Because then if the father dies within 30 days there's a that he didn't he didn't redeem his son. Until he brings a riot. Now you see from here but if he did bring a riot it works in 30 days. But it's before 30 days. Not like small. We have something against small. If you perform peanut then on day 15 again what's the case? Let's talk about it. He obviously didn't do it day 15. Nobody holds you can do it day 15. He gave the money said hold on till the day 30 and it should be held then and it says before it's okay. What are you telling me? It doesn't work. It's not doesn't work. And I'm going to tell you small how can I say it's small? What are you doing? What are you saying? Next to you. >> Hello Mr. Mindy. Mazel tov. Your wife just gave birth. It's a baby boy. >> Mazel time. >> May I help? Mazel tov. Switzerland. Yoyim. Notice that not yeyim, yoyim. >> [cough] >> The money's still there. Showing you the money's still there. On day 31, I like how he says yoyim. So then, according to small it's good. It's a boy! He gives the money to the coin. Mazel tov. Wait. He gets to that cycle of my life. Who lived as a who lived as >> [cough] >> Oh, [clears throat] I forgot to show the Russian. I wanted I pushed it off. Here's the Russian. Who lived as a who lived as Who cut them in here? Mom, is this video fits right in. Talking about who lived as a who lived as Who lived as a who lived Who cut them in Who cut them in here? He comes first. If you don't even bring cut them in here. If you this says no, the son is first. Why? Because the father the grandfather shouldn't be paid to him? But him, the Russian father, his misses the paid to his son. So we paid to his son, not yourself. Good night. If there's only five slom available, you you probably do yourself you you probably yourself. Why? My time at the midst of the day of this. First, take care of yourself. Make sure yourself. In this in this meeting I had last night, I think I got to this guy. That was I saw. I said, "Why?" He tells me he did 12 major projects and I just wrote hundreds of thousands of apartments, the whole thing. I'm like, "Well, think about it for a second. Why are you working so hard? Why? Another project and another project. I said, "Just pause and think. Why are you doing it for? Would it be okay if you only worked, you know, 10 hours a day, not the 14 that you're telling me you're working and barely sleeping? You're in your 50s. You have millions and millions. So, what what what would happen if you slow down and devote one more hour to Torah? That's it. One more hour." He put I I saw that he something something was clicking in his head. I said, "What are you doing it for? For your children? They have enough. They have this. What do you Why? Give to yourself. Give to yourself first before you give to other people. Meaning in in Torah also, the midst of the day of this, your mitzvah of learning Torah, of doing comes first. It's a just >> [music] >> It's a joke. Oh, this video. >> [music] >> It's a good video. It's not It's not a It's not one of those videos. That's really not. [music] Oh. Whatever it was, he sold the spiel. >> [music] [music] >> Okay. Beautiful case. A guy has in his bank account exactly five of these. Five slime, that's it. That's all he has in his bank account. But, he just sold a property. He just sold a property. So, the property, he didn't have the right to sell the property cuz five slime out of the property belong to the coin. He has to pay two times five slime, one for himself, one for his son. He has five slime now in the bank account. What should he do? The answer is there's a trick. There could be a trick to do both. First, he pays the five slime to the coin for his son. And then he tells the coin, "Listen, I sold the property yesterday. This five slime in the property, go take the five slime." You can't tell the coin go to the property to take the five slime before your bank account is zero cuz then he'll say, "The guy that bought the field will say, 'Well, no, you have money in the account. Pay from your account.'" So, that's that's the guy is saying. This is a question here. Could you do this? Five slime are in a property he just sold, but five are in the bank. The fact that you owe the coin five, it's in the Torah. If it's in the Torah, it's as if there's a there's a document. And if there's a document, that means that whoever he sold the field to has to pay back. He should have known about this document. He shouldn't have bought your There's a lien on the property before you even bought it. Pay off the lien. The today, sorry. The guy, the coin, will go and take the money out of the field. But first, as this explains, first, obviously, he has to get rid of the five slime that he has in the bank account by giving it to the coin for his son. That comes first, actually. First, first redeem your son so you have zero in your bank account. Then you have a field, let the coin take from the field. The one says it's not true. There's no real shibud on the field. He cannot go to the field. He'll go. And what do you have left? You only have five slime left that you can pay either for you or your son. It's the day of the other. It's to put on your mask first, then put on your kids mask. First you pay your for yourself and then you pay for your son. Rabbi Boy Sai, have a wonderful day. Motzei Shabbos at 8:00. >> [music] >> Merit the zchus of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shiur today. mdy.sponsor.com or sponsored.mdy.com