CHAZARAH - Bechoros Daf 51 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] [screaming] >> Welcome, welcome to all the guests. We're holding on the top. Right where we want to be. It says in the that all these things if you if you if a person kills his his kills a slave, you have to give a with The special What else? the 50 of the We already said this in the beginning of the we said Says the It doesn't say You learn one from another. And we learn from the So everything in the you could use Besides the actual that we bring That has to be the real deal. It can't be a chair, it can't be a a computer, a bike. It has to be money. Another two things we're going to add to the list. And when you bring the money for the carbon Every time you come to the You bring with you a carbon. You bring When you see the So that has to be with real money, minted money. Now we're going to just go through We have here two coins. They weigh the exact amount. They're both 1 oz. This is gold, this is silver. How much is this gold worth more than this silver? How many silver is going to this gold? Anybody want to take a guess? >> No. >> Today, yeah, today. Huh? 80 80 something. This is 80 of these. So imagine you're in a city, you're in let say or I don't know where, you're in New York and everybody sends the I think it's from also. Everybody sends a And they send it with one Now everybody's going to go to the to bring it. How's the guy going to thousands of these. It's very heavy. So you're allowed to trade it into one of these gold coins that has a that's minted. It has a a depiction on it. It's a minted coin. Why? Because it's very heavy. But you don't What you don't do is you don't take all the and put it into a bar of gold, just a solid piece of gold. No, no, no, no, no. It has to be It has to be That's the over here. There's three things they could only change it into not just a a minted currency that's not just the value of gold, a piece of gold, a necklace let say, a gold necklace like they do in It has to be a coin. right? When do we give what years? Oh, everybody knows 1 2 4 5. Now we know why? Because 3 and 6 because that's the smallest 3 and 6. Easy to remember. 1 2 4 5. >> is minted. Minted money So you have a lot of fruit and you don't want to slap hundreds of pounds of of fruit up to the up to Jerusalem. It's too heavy. So you trade it in your city for a coin that has a a minted coin and you bring those coins up to Jerusalem and then you do the trade back. You buy fruit with that those coins. And the We don't want you to bring inferior silver So you bring pure silver coins. Says the Mishna Pay attention here that we're 50 That means that in about 10 days we're starting a new And it's going to be one of the last opportunities before the final is a great to bring people, so start getting ready to bring people. I'm not going to make such a big push for the two after that. But is a good time to bring people. It's easy. Very very So start getting your ideas ready for your videos, for your status, for your things. We're going to have to make a big push. This would be so interesting. Come to And the father of the son shows up with a slave brings a slave, puts him in a box and gives the a slave. Instead of my son, I want to give you another human being. Human being for human being, that doesn't work. I also can't give the a nice apartment in on the beach in somewhere. Can't do that either. Ah, it's worth more than five No, can't do it. So today a simple be a check. I can't give him a check. Especially those checks that bounce. But a in general, check is not a good. And not with real estate. Now the simple meaning in the mission would mean you can't take a carbon. Let's say you're an animal. You said this animal should be You can't take and redeem your soul with it. Of course you can't take an and redeem your soul with it. It's not yours. It's the So what else could it be? Somebody donated a laptop to the So you can't take the laptop and give it to the Well, it's not yours to give. So the It's completely It's It's not even talking about that. It's talking how do you redeem When there's a laptop in There's a laptop. You want a laptop and and you're going to buy it off the yard sale. You cannot use real estate to buy that that laptop. You can't use a slave to buy that laptop. That's what the But we're not there yet. What? So the the mission tells us a very interesting case. Let's say Let's say we have a little bit of a fight here. You know, Donnie comes to me and says, listen, I would love to do a you know, like before I was a the first time I like had this this urge like it's such a So Donnie Donnie, you ever did a You did once. Okay. So let's say he comes he comes to the to the to the father of the kid. He says, listen, it would mean a lot to me if you if you made if I did it, I'll even give you the money back just So the guy says no problem here. I, at least [clears throat] owe you the five of of the I'm going to I'm going to use it. You write a I I I promise Donnie fine, I'm going to use him as my Says the You can't do that. And if you do it, you have to pay Donnie fine five And then you have to start all over again. Nothing to do This has nothing to do with the Why? We don't want people to get confused. People are going to say that the is what did it. And we know is no good for >> You wrote a a document saying I am going to give you the five He must give him the five So let me ask you a question. What if fine, he's a nice guy He says listen, I know the says you have to give me the five Don't worry. Does that work? What are the next words? What does that mean? It means to say that he cannot say Danny cannot be It's not up to him. He can't be a nice guy. He must take the money from the If he wants, he can give him a gift right back. But you cannot do I'm taking the that you wrote me here and I'm ripping it up. Why? Because this is all the I want want you to pay up and lose your money. So you should never do such a thing again. You set aside five for the and got lost. That's your problem, not the not the We saw when it comes to that doesn't work like that, that if you put it on the side it's okay. I want you to remember this because it's very important for later on in the Right before everybody's ready to get up and run out the door over there we're going to be talking about that the introduces. And is going to ask what do you mean? It says What are you looking for more when the gives us the over here. Okay. So it says in the you cannot redeem with three things. What are the three things? a and >> Instead of three things on its list, he only brings one. I told yesterday, I'm going to say it again. When I was learning this on Shabbos, it seemed to me like from the easiest for me personally, one of the easiest Why? And once you learn it once in Shas and you get it down, it's the same exact thing over and over and over. It's the same thing. And then when she did the blast came to me after she goes, this was the easiest of all the So, what's a It's almost the same thing. It's the same words. We're using the same exact words. We're just calling it a different name. We say is a generalization. The generalizes in a lot of things. Let's say You can do with everything in the world. All any anything, even slaves and and real estate, everything. Then the says no. It has to be Slime. Then the says again, it generalizes. So that we call You could call that those exact words Whoever does does it for the whole Shas. Or if you're in the the camp that says that you do you do that in the whole Shas. You don't pick and choose. Okay. But what is the difference? A very small difference. Small but large. The describes what the is, what the generalization is. So that has to be similar to the But we're going to take off a bunch of stuff. In our case, we're going to take off three things. What do we take off? But if you do a you only take off one thing. That's the whole difference. Do you take off one thing or you take off many things? It's not only three. Sometimes it's 20. Sometimes it's two. But a meot means I'm going to off one thing. The thing that's the less, the most, the furthest away from the generalization. What's the furthest thing away from something that's worth money? A note. A star. It has zero value. You You can't even blow your nose on it, you know, because it has ink all over it. You can't even do it. What are you going to do with it? There's nothing. Uh a slave has value, real estate has value. So the thing that I'm going to take out I'm only going to take out one thing. So when the Gemara says Rebbe argues on the Mishna. The Mishna says you can't do with three things and Rebbe says you could you can't do with one thing, the star. Because Rebbe holds he only takes off one thing. But in the Mishna hold you take off three things. So let's see inside. In other words, you could redeem your son with a slave and with real estate. He the the the That what? Let's just see it inside. This is the right? So is a prat. So really what we have here is It's not a It's two in a row. And afterwards a prat. What do we have on the table? We have a slave all the way on the right. We have a below the slave. We have And we have a thing of real estate all the way on the left. Trees spinning around over there and we have money. I think I just I just noticed my face over here. Fine. So now I'm going to do a I'm going to take everything off. But then because I have a So I put back besides one thing. What am I going to take off? The thing that's least similar to everything. And that is a that has zero value as of itself. It's just a piece of paper, but the paper itself you can't do anything with. I'm going to add everything. My rabbi, rabbi every single thing I could redeem my son with. I take out one thing only because it has zero value. And that's why rabbi took out one because he holds We're going to do the same exact thing all over again, but the outcome is different. [clears throat] So the Everything that you put back has to be similar to the but I could take out many things, many items. Why? Because I go it has to be similar to the and if it's not similar to the you could be 10 things, 20 things, 100 things. It has to be something movable. Real estate is not movable. It has to have inherent value. doesn't have any value. Therefore I take off What about a slave? No slave in the whole slaves are similar to So therefore you cannot redeem your son with real estate because it's not movable and you cannot redeem your son with a slave because a slave has a Even though they are movable, they don't have any value themselves. Simple question. Since if you go with certain line in Shas, you go with you can't switch one day to It doesn't work like that. You are a Rebbe is a cloud person. So how all of a sudden now you tell me that Rebbe holds and he only took off a He's a person. Since he's a individual, he has to all like and take off three things. Guess what? Another simple Why is it simple? Because with less than two weeks ago, we had this entire When you have a Jewish person who stole and he has no money to repay, so you sell him as a slave up to 6 years. What happens when he doesn't want to leave because he has a child, he has a wife, he this, doesn't want to leave? He works until You you you take his ear, you put on the doorpost and you puncture it with a All with a The Mishna did a great job on this in the picture here. Let me show you. It's one of these. And one of it says, how do you know all these different items? Mine is on the side over there, on the right. Um here we go. Look, the the the placement of these tools are is not in the right place. It has to be in the soft spot, but okay. but we needed some room over here. like a like um auger, like a a bit, drill bit. And then you have a stylus. Okay. So how do you know Let's just see the video now. Here we go. So this is A Jew that stole money and cannot repay. So says the Gemara. And He says no. Anything that's made out of metal, but you can't use you can't use like no some. How do you say some? Like like a chemical. You can't use a chemical. What's the So you see that is a [laughter] You write it in the entire But [clears throat] over here it's different. Why? Sorry. [clears throat] We're talking about the that a fish has that it's kosher. So what's going on over here? Because similar to what we have by us. Look at this. It's a But if you look at it, look at the It says and then it says again. So it's a and a and only afterwards you have a It's not So that makes a difference. In that case, when you have two together and afterwards you have a and that says that's a Then you go with the No, but in they say look. It says but mine by mine. right. It does say like that. But what would we do in roll? We do this. We do a switcharoo. We put the the in as if it's in between the two clouds to get a regular typical cloud But argues you don't do you don't do a trick. You just leave it. So What do we have by us? We have a and a or a and a It's not a It's a Oh. So the question is do we do that trick? will say we do this. says no. This is a [clears throat] When it comes to You can't you can't use a carpet or something like that to redeem your son It's It's not your personal property. We're not talking about using the to redeem something. We're talking about you redeeming Look, we're talking about So again, I tell I tell I'm going to pay you five in 30 days. You don't worry about it. I'm not going to take Have no fear. So the is I have to give the and I'm I'm I have to start all over again. It's a good But why the say it's no good? People are not going to realize what happened there. They know I gave 30 days ago. They're going to think that's what caused the And we don't want people to think that you can use cuz that for sure according to everybody even according to The one thing that's no good is a He says oh, when you pay up the you're good. >> These are people that said things without that said We don't pass We learned I think it's a fascinating I would have not known this. I would have guessed like the people I guessed that it's no good. Like he was even saying you're redeeming one child you need to redeem it to one person. No. The is I could take five put it in front of run away. Say you guys deal with it. You guys split it the way you want to do it. by putting it down. So Rashi says over here talking about to one you just give one one coin after another coin. So time out. But as I mentioned before, even if you give it to different one after another different days, you're also [clears throat] If you give it to the and the gives it back, it's good. It works. Like it brought down from the He says that in our days it's even better for the to give it back. Don't forget was a tremendous tremendous. So it could be, okay, he gave it back. He used to give it back. He received it. He gave it back. What that that's it? only did one in his whole life. Even this So >> What's the >> What? No, see because first of all the Good. It's a good thing you bring it up. There's a problem here of And that is you're not allowed to help a anticipating that he's going to give you You're going to help him out in the in the threshing floor over there and then he eventually He's going to give to you. When you know that Rabbi Schoenberg is that kind of that he gives back your But Danny Fine is the type of that he likes to keep it for different reasons. So you are going to use Rabbi Schoenberg. It's it's better for you. So isn't that ruining it? brings up the point over here and He has a question. It should be You're destroying They're going to They have a monopoly now on all the Nobody's going to use another Here's a guy that gives back $250 bucks every time. He would take the but give it back to the He sees a guy The guy's walking back, forth. What does he want? What's what's going on? He starts clearing his throat. [cough and clears throat] He just received the from the father of the son. And the father of the son starts making around this table. I don't understand. You didn't give it to me 100%. Would you expect me to give it back to you? You did a terrible thing he tells him. You weren't because you thought I'm going to give it back to you, then you didn't give me a real I was testing you to see. Here we go. Hold on. Okay. >> If you set aside money for the got lost, you have to replace the money yourself. You know, a lot of times at the end of the they start hinting to you. A person says his value, I'm going to give to and you set aside the money and then it gets lost, you have to you have to bring more money. So, as I told you then, I just I'm going to show you again. Oh, no. Do we even have a better one here? This was in the I need a I already brought a If you lose the money, how do I know you have to pay again? It's in the What are you bringing? I learned in says right. Beautiful. It's a good thing you caught on. This stays. This How do I know I have to replace the money? Because there's a of So, why did I bring all these What's going on here? It's brought for something else, for a different we learned a few days ago. If the son, the kid dies I'm sorry. The father dies after 30 days and now we don't have anybody to redeem the kid. Even though he didn't give, somebody should give Sorry, the kid died. The kid but now the kid and the father died, both. No, nobody's there. Also, if the the person, the redeemer, the the one that has the the one that the value or the person that said I'll do it, either one if they die, you have to continue giving it. Have a wonderful day. >> [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdy sponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.