CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 107 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] >> I go to walk around by side. If you finish my middle school I was supposed to hire beautiful items tonight. Boys I were holding enough on the base to smack it out today. Again we have a lot of we have some stories. Two lines from the bottom. I'm a rough. I don't come with a colon. So again He's showing this joint number one, joint number two. This joint right over here. Not this first joint, joint number two. I don't come with a colon. This is where you have to wash your hands when you from icy water. I don't come with a trauma. Then he kept on going to the knuckles and he said this is you got it in there? Which one am I? I don't come with a colon being with trauma with colon. Small says you have to do it to the knuckles. Even with colon. We got to be more clear. >> [cough] [clears throat] >> I don't say you saw my I don't come with a colon being with trauma with colon. I don't say you saw no I can go to the second to this guy with colon. Now if if these charts pop populate anytime soon Rough says the second joint the blue line for colon, the knuckles for trauma. Come small says no. Everything is down to the knuckles. He's more clear. The next sheet is everything with colon. We go out to the second joint everything trauma with colon up to that point. I don't bomb me. So now let's see inside. I don't know what you had you have a camera with a camera I don't bomb me. Here's the bomb me. >> [clears throat] >> I don't know I don't come with a colon being with trauma with colon. We got to go to the knuckles and be more clear. I don't tell my I don't bomb me with some colon. Don't say that he was more clear cuz he's a client. The whole Rebbi Yosha Barber Rebbi Shimon bar Levi have a Levi. He was a Levi. You see that even are Mahmir, they go to the knuckles. Okay. So, what do we do? So, the Rif learns this whole Sugya, he takes it down at cuz it doesn't say for sure knuckles anywhere. It says if you look at the top words in the Amud, it says at a perek. If you go to Amud Aleph, the almost the last words in the Amud says at a perek. It doesn't say at a perek. The trumah at a perek. It doesn't say what it is. I mean, if you you don't have rash, you don't have anything, you don't know what at a perek means. Maybe it's all the same. It seems like from the Gemara it keeps on going up. Anyway, the Rif gets to all the way to the wrist. That's how the Rif he doesn't have the knuckles. He says like the means to the wrist. So, the Shulchan Aruch brings the Rif and he says that therefore we should be Mahmir all the way to the wrist. If we have enough water, if we don't have water we can go to the knuckles. So, that's why people should be a little bit more careful. Am a rav, here we go. If a person washes his hands in the morning, and we're going to see later on there's a tremendous tumah on the hands when you wake up in the morning, especially according I don't I don't remember anymore. This is Rashi and the Rashba if the tumah is like some tumah that comes at night or cuz you you touch them regardless, your hands are tumah. And you wash we wash our hands six times according to the eight. You wash what they call negel vasser. Negel means the nails. It's not really negel. It's a little bit more than negel we saw. It's it's it's knuckle vasser. You know, you got to go up to the at least to the knuckles, maybe to the wrist vasser. But, you're washing your hands in the morning. So, let's say you know for a that you're not going to be available, you're not going to be able to get to this a water source for a long time, you make it tonight. You have to do make it tonight. You have to say in the morning, "I'm washing my hands now, and this should last me all the way to my sandwich in the afternoon." And you have to make sure that you don't you don't uh touch anything that's that's not good in between. You don't scratch the bottom of your leg, you don't scratch your head, you know, like you make sure that your hands are clean. When I make a coin it seems like if you don't make it tonight, it doesn't work. Even though you know for a fact you never touched anything. You wash your hands in the morning, you put uh gloves on your hands. No, it doesn't work. You have to make it tonight. I'm going to be in the plane. Packed the rice. He told these people you going to the school you don't have a lot of water. Make it tonight. Some people say that it's difficult Rebbe told these people from packed the rice because they don't have a lot of water. So, they don't have a lot of water, you're allowed to make it tonight. And this argues on Rebbe cuz Rebbe just said it straight out of luck. He didn't say people that don't have water, do have water. He said you can make it tonight if you want to make it tonight. So, you have to make like this whether or not you can make it tonight. And this is what the paskins that even if there's a a lot of water, you can still make a tonight. And and that's it. Oh. So, we had a few times this idea of Rebbe. Rebbe is that water there's they still do it today where you get a water source straight off the river. So you build a channel, you dig a channel. Dig a channel from the river all the way to your field. For whatever reason, this picture doesn't show exactly why, but they didn't dig it all the way to the river. There's a little bit of a maybe there was a height difference. Yeah, maybe the the field is much higher up or whatever it is. They you they didn't dig all the way down to the river. So what do you do? You have to sit there with a pail, take from the river, put it into the channel. You do this, you know, for hours until the water comes to your field. Now, we're talking about the guy, his friend in the blue on the bottom of the screen, wants to he has tummy hands, the red. He wants to put his hands in the channel and use that for to feel us myim, right? To remind aylem, if you dunk your hands in the Kinneret, what brocha do you make? Oh, so we need to fix something. If you dunk your hands in the ocean, you make al netilas yadayim. Cuz you toivel your hands, it's even better than washing your hands. But the Kinneret is different than the ocean. Why is the Kinneret different? Because it's sweet water. Sweet water, you you could actually wash your hands with. You could take the water out and go like this. Ocean water, you can't wash your hands with. You took ocean water out, you went like this one two one two, wouldn't work. Why? Because it's not really kosher. Even a dog can't drink it. Nobody it's myim pesulim. So over there you I'm just saying what the Mishna Berurah says at the end of the day. He paskens. On ocean netilas yadayim. On a Kinneret, al netilas yadayim even though it's a tevilah. Interesting halacha. So, let's see the video now. Since he's too far away from the water pouring, he's not it doesn't help. But if he's right there next to it, then it helps. Why? Cuz like what we said with the with the faucet, it's not guy over when it's far away. The guy over it comes from his force. When he pours the water, it's his force, but that dissipates a few feet down. When it's a few inches away, then it's still kind of guy over. For instance, you're on a plane and you don't have a cup to wash your hands. What do you do? You push the faucet and you put your hand underneath. That's kind of guy over. But 3 seconds later, it's already not kind of guy over. It's already flowing. So you have to wait until it shuts off and then you do it again. Higher is so the guy over ain't nothing in the middle of the dime. Why? The last one kind of guy over. You schmuck. He he's pouring the water from the river into the channel. Do not put your hands in the channel cuz it's not going to work. The water didn't come from a a human force. The guy over ain't got no double, but if you come closer like we saw, the cause of the guy over then it comes from the human force. Nothing in the middle of the dime. Let me show you one more time so now it could be a little clearer. When he's further away, his hands remain tawny. When he comes closer, then his hands are tar. And now check this out. The basil double because it's magical. There's There's two types of holes. There's a hole that water leaves the vessel. And there's a hole that water can enter the vessel. Which hole is larger? The one that enters. Cuz any small little hole water will leave. But if you put a a vessel that has a tiny little hole, you put a bow as a small little hole in a river, what are the chances the water's going to go in? It has to be larger, slightly larger. So now check this out. If we learned that the concept called Nitzav, if there's a a water connection between the channel and the river, somehow you're able to make that connection like electricity. If you bring a wire from the river to the channel, you'll get electrocuted if you if you touch the channel. If you make that same connection with water, you'll also make a connection and you'll you'll be able to wash your hands from the lake. How you doing? You'll be able to put your hands in the channel and and wash your hands. Why? Cuz it's as if your hands are in the river. There's a connection. How do you make the connection? As you're pouring the water out of the whatever um pail you're using, there's a hole on the other end of the pail that water makes a stream of water into the river. So now you have a complete channel. Let me show you how it looks. Okay. Now, here we go. Now he has that cle So you see there's a there's a direct connection now between the river and the channel and he put his hands in the channel even though it's further down, they become green. Yesh mach. Oh. Try to understand an irregular shear. Here's Clark. So, because there's a connection, you're allowed to put your hands in the water further down the channel. If you have a cle, you have a vessel that that that I'm not going to show the whole thing, but if the hole is large enough that water could go in from the river, in, not out cuz out is smaller, in, that that type of cle is no good for the netilat yadayim. Do not wash your hands with a cle that has a hole in it. Here's a question. Stop. This is uh I'm throwing this out, nothing to do with anything really. Talking about the kalem here. Does anybody see a problem with one of these kalem for netilat yadayim? Is there any issue washing your hands with one of these? This is that's not accurate, I don't think. But I know what you're talking about. That's what I remember as a kid. I couldn't find that really, but what the problem is similar to that. >> I pour from the higher side. >> What? >> You can't use the higher side. >> Right. That's what That's what you meant. You can't use You can't pour the water out of there from the higher side. Why? Because this cle is damaged. It doesn't have a complete It's not round. It's not high on all sides. So you could only count the cle from the lowest side, meaning from the spout. Therefore, you could only pour from the spout. You cannot pour from the side even because the side is higher than the spout. But because of the spout, the issue is the spout. In other words, the spout is the lowest part of the clee, so you could only pour from that. That's what I understand. If you have other another thing, then let me know. Maybe it's better not to use these kind of calum to begin with. But sometimes it's the opposite. Sometimes the lower part is where the handle is. You know what I mean? It's the same clee, but the handle's on the other side. Now you have a problem. You have to pour it like towards the handle. You know what I mean? You always have to pour it towards the lower side. If the the vessel does not contain a full revi'is, let's call a revi'is 100 cc. Okay, this one says 87, this is 100 100 cc let's just for the for argument's sake. If it doesn't have 100, it has 90. As the Gemara says, "If I'm over a clee what?" Clee max the revi'is. If the clee is small like he's saying on a loud, I don't know. We have to look into it. Taco looks very small. If a If a clee is tiny like the size of a shot glass, it doesn't have a revi'is in it. Then you cannot use it to wash your hands. Let's say you are you're you're on a trip and you have a cap of a bottle. You want to use that for You can't. It's too small. Huh? And uh But it seems like how max the I got the lesbian. But if it was a large clee, it just doesn't have the revi'is water. That's okay? So the Gemara says, "How the hot how the tray?" Very interesting. We're going to learn a beautiful halakha here. That when a a single person is washing his hands, he needs to start out with the right amount of water, which is what? At least a revi'is. But when two people are washing their hands, the second one you you start off with a revi'is. The second guy doesn't have a revi'is anymore. You start off with a revi'is. The first guy, let's say he's nice to you and he only uses half. So, now the second guy is left with one half of a revi'is. Which is a shminis, but okay. That's enough. That's enough for washing your hands. >> [cough] >> For the second [clears throat] guy, why? Cuz that's called shiurei taharah. It's the leftovers of something good of taharah, and therefore it's enough. >> What about the first guy? >> The first guy had a revi'is. He started off with a revi'is. He He doesn't have to use all the revi'is. He has to start off with a revi'is. That's the ideal. You have to start off with the right amount of water. You can't start off with one drop of water. You have to start off with the right. How much you use, that's okay. He has to start off with the revi'is. The sign you may revi'is Huh? >> Is it like a khila? >> I don't know. I'm not a rabbi. I don't see a p'sak here. May revi'is noit may I feel shnai. Here, this is this is the halakha. May revi'is noit may I feel shnai. It says in the halakha here, it's halakha in Shulchan Aruch. A what? That if you have a revi'is, it's good for one person, even for the second person. Why? It's shiurei taharah. All the answers that may be to amana. He asked him, "Do you care if you're clean when you wash your hands? Do you care that your clea is whole? Doesn't have any holes in it? Doesn't have any any um um cracks in it?" Amana in, "Yes, my clea has to be whole." Akhazusa, "What about if the water is a little tainted?" Amana in, "I don't use water. It has to be clear water." Ashiura, "What about the revi'is part?" Amana in, "Okay, great." Igdamei akhi amalei. Amana akazusa kabdeina. That the vessel should be whole and it should The water should look good. That we care about. Ashiura kabdeina, the revi'is we don't care about. The sign you may revi'is noit may I feel shnai. I don't care about a revi'is. Why? Because two people can wash from it. Says the Gemara but that's not a good raya. if you start off with the reviews then you don't have to have a reviews. But a a typical person washing his hands for a mighty should start off with a reviews. Says the Gamorah ask like on the flight you have a little cup on a string in show and everybody can go over there and say oh, this is what a reviews is. This is what it looks like. It's interesting cause the base of brings the remaining machine he says the reason why we call it you die. Why is it called you die? Have you ever thought about it? Should be called I don't know what. What's the what's the he says cause of this right over here because of this not law it's a it's a it's a cleave that everybody imitates. That's the sheer it's called you die. Ask what was he used the to make a reviews. What what if you have a cover of a barrel? You're on a trip. You're up north. You want to wash your hands. Can you take off your baseball cap, your MDY cap, put it into the river? One, two, one, two. Yes, no, anybody? No. Why not? Cause the MDY cap. But what if it's somebody else? That doesn't have holes in it. What holes? Yours has what? It has a breathing thing. Okay, no, cause it's not made for a cleave. You can't use it. That's not that's the reason it's not a cleave. So if I use the the cover of a barrel it's not a cleave. It's not meant for it to holding water. Now, if he worked it here like this guy. He decided to work it until it's No, it's fast forward. Then you can use it. The goof was taken off. He made it specifically for holding water not really that. Then you can use it for things like that. Then you goof was taken off not really that. We learned the same thing that you could use it for things like that. Shame was taken off you had this piece of leather stand up not really that. It's special for the things like that. So, when you have a just a a sack I'm sure the same word a sack. That's That's already know you can't you can't use you can't use it for the things like that. It's not meant for for for water it's meant for the holding wheat or whatever. You buy a little I'm sure everyone in the room use this trick once or here and there. When and how or are you allowed to use a napkin, gloves? You're not going to touch the bread. Here's another question. If you are feeding your son who's 3 years old. You're feeding him bread. You're putting in his mouth. Do you have to wash your hands? You don't have to wash your hands? Let's say you're 85 years old and you broke your two hands and somebody's feeding you bread. Do you have to wash your hands? But you're not touching the bread. It's going right into your hand. Into your mouth. Nope, that's not the reason. Do I have to be concerned that the person is going to touch the bread even though And he ate less than a a eggs worth of kibitza. Not the map he would use a napkin. Well, I could use a sukkah you're allowed to eat outside of sukkah if it's a all right, so it's a temporary type of eating. It's not a permanent eating. The aim of our when you don't make you don't make bigger unless in a kibitza. My love seems like kibitza deals with that. So you can you can infer from this. We will infer from this, but this is the wrong inferation. Inferation. It's not a word. Inference. I know I know I know. My love I didn't think for a second inferation is the word. My love kibitza deals with that. Seems like if it's the full shear you have to wash your hands and a napkin is no good. You see from the story a napkin is no good. The my heart kibitza by the sukkah by the No, what we can infer is that if it's a full kibitza then you need a sukkah. You need to make a bigger amazon. Tell us my the small the map. Small and rough you know they were contemporaries. And rough was the goal of our So small was also a little bit but you see this rough eating with a napkin of some sort. Omar lay Who's that I don't know what the base. I've been contained. What are you doing? Omar lay that I think so alive. I'm a businessman. I wash my hands. Do not worry. Of course I wash my hands. Plus I don't like touching my food. Today we call it a a fork. So maybe it means maybe it went down. What does it say by you guys? Because the No, they were strong. Sorry. Yeah, they were in theory over there. They were the leftovers the ruined What what do they call those things that you put you put water in like in camp? >> A drinking bottle. >> No, canteen. Yeah, like canteen skin bottle. Yeah, it's made out of out of leather. So, they were using the leftover, you know, the the ruins, so they use it as as napkins. You messed up the story. Shmuel yelled at Rav, but Hadai didn't say anything. He explained it to him. He explained afterwards that Rav actually washed his hands. He didn't use a napkin. He missed this part. Those who eat trumah, like Kohanim, they are as risen Kohanim as risen. What's What's better? Zarus is a Zahir. Zarus comes after Zahir. Zahir is maybe the these risers, meaning you're going to you're going to prevent all situation. Kohanim is risen. They're fast. They make sure that they're not going to they're not going to touch the bread, etc. So, therefore, even a a person who's makpid on chulin with taharah, who eats regular food but as if it's tahor, he cannot use a napkin. Kohanim, therefore, they're allowed to use a napkin in all of Israel. So, it's very complicated to use a mapo. That's the bottom line. You should ask your local rabbi if if you could get to water source 4 mi forward, driving, walking, 72 minutes, or 1 mi backwards, then you're not allowed to use a mapo really. So, it's very very rare that you're allowed to use a napkin. You buy low. If somebody is feeding you, do you have to eat Do you have to wash your hands? Tushma. He gave him some a piece of meat with it like a sandwich, put it in his mouth. On the legs or I'm going to say he loved it or I'm going to not. Or my legs said to Reverend he loved it or I'm going to not. Louis C. Locke, I wouldn't have done this for you you but because you you're Reverend Nuno you're careful. My time all I want to show him is I have a lot of money now because you're careful. Louis desires caught him or Marshall Yanni B. Karan. Chad is cuz he's Reverend Nuno and he must have washed his hands beforehand. Touch my dome of a zero. I don't think you have a double chin on the other they used to have these still have like a waiter that was like really dedicated. And you know he worked for you so you feed him. So you give him literally open the he walks by with the things he said open your mouth. Put in a piece of bread into his mouth. Wait a minute I'm going to be careful I'm going to be careful unless you know for a fact that he washed his hands. Now the shamash he wants to drink wine. So they give him a they give him a couple of wine. Now anytime you drink something or eat something and you have in mind to finish right there or you don't think that you're going to be eating later you have to make another brocha. Over here the shamash knows that you know the guy has a very expensive bottle of wine. He's most likely not going to give him another cup. So he's going to see if that's he he he forgets about his brocha he's done with the brocha. So therefore if he gets another cup he has to make another brocha. Then I'm going to say what? Somebody said no. Then I'm going to say I'll call Bruce or Bruce or Bruce. But on bread he doesn't think his his ball boss is so stingy. If he wants another piece of bread I'll take another piece of bread he's not going to see if that's on the brocha of Almighty. Very good I'm going to I'll call Bruce or Bruce Bruce. No Rebecca argues and says no he has to you never know with this ball boss maybe won't give him anything. I'm a papa bishop in the realm. What does Rav say? Rav says the shamash doesn't make a brocha on each piece of bread. So, when you have a a khashuv person there, he's not going to embarrass the the owner the baal bos is not going to embarrass himself in front of a khashuv person. He's going to give him more bread. Khashuv like all them khashuv. Okay? So, there's a difference between the two stories. If you go back to the beginning, he says, Rashi says, when you eat the food you have to you have to wash the shamash how to wash his hands. You see, the person receiving the food must wash his hands even though he's not touching the food at all. Therefore, it's not such a great trick on a on a trip, right? You can't tell if you're in you're up north, you're you're in Yellowstone, you can't tell your wife, "Put the bread in my mouth and I won't touch it." And then maybe I could get out of the washing hands. You have to wash your hands. Shani shamash, oh, maybe that's different. Shamash the Torah, he's very busy serving and maybe he'll come to touch the bread. So, you can't bring any riot from that story of a shamash. Tell the rabbonim. You as a guest don't start feeding the shamash because you know how it is when you start feeding the waiters, the baal bos gets very nervous. I know people that are very makpid when they start taking things off the table, they take things two things two sandwiches, three sandwiches. Why are you feeding this person that person? That's why we have a rule there, men and women, why can't take food home? I know that person. He gets so upset, he'll start choking, he'll knock the the cup of wine away. But, shamash didn't wash his hands. And if the shamash didn't wash his hands, I'll tell you the person is not allowed to put the bread like we said before, he's not allowed to put the bread in his mouth. Here we have the same thing. Here is the makhloket guy. This wealthy guy on the right does he have to wash his hands? >> [music] >> Interesting halakha. We're on Yom Kippur and a woman wants to give her son a piece of bread on Yom Kippur. Now, you're not allowed to wash your hands on Yom Kippur. Why? Because it's ruchatz. That's a whole question if you're allowed to wash your hands for negel vasser. You have the tumah, it's a sakana. So, a lot of people wash literally the negels, the you know, just the one joint. Some people don't wash at all. Whatever your minhag is. Ish madichos yada says over here if she wants to give her kid a piece of matzah, she should wash one hand, not two. Which is also very problematic cuz either you wash two hands or you don't wash any. What's one? It's like a kula on Yom Kippur that you can wash one out of the two. But, it says pass over no katan. So, if we stop right over here, you see that you have to wash your hands if you're feeding somebody else. He didn't want to wash. He didn't want to wash his hand and feed his son with one hand. And it's child whether his son was starving or somebody else fed him. And they said you have to wash both hands. We want to show that you're wrong. You're supposed to wash at least one hand. You wash two. There's a bad spirit that comes and goes on people's hands when they sleep. And you should [clears throat] wash your hands on Yom Kippur for that ruach rah. And that's what the the woman was doing. Tashma. Davud Shmuel Maaseh Gishmaka Maaseh. This is going to back to the trauma of when they were younger and older. >> [snorts] >> Small's father sees little little kid crying. I'm a little kid why are you crying? Says the little boy give me a smack across the face. Am I why? You're giving my son bread and you don't wash your hands. Poof smack in the face. So first of all you see it's not just our generation that went through the Holocaust. The rabbis and this and that. The rabbin back then also used to give smacks. So now this is very interesting. Small's father is for hearing him. He says look if If you didn't know what you were doing and you were messing up you didn't wash your hands because you didn't feel like washing them then you deserve a smack. If you know that I need to know but my little Moses says that kid is going to eat bread and I have to wash my hands. In other words he knew that I love her. Not only does the rabbi not know that I love her smacks too. What a good sport. He doesn't even know that I love her and he gives smacks. So now we're wrapping this up. So everybody get this clear. When you're being fed bread by somebody else you must wash your hands. So the one the mother giving the bread to the child doesn't have to wash your hands. Have a wonderful week. Thank you >> Thank you for coming. >> Merit is close to spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today at my sponsor.com or sponsor [music] at my dad.com.