CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 114 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Beautiful [music] [screaming] voice. I were holding on. Yesterday we had this amazing chart. We have three of the andro and the narrowed down six made them into three one two and three. [snorts] But the teaches us the the purples on the bottom. So we'll focus on the the three on the top. We don't even have to focus on all three. Just number one. The Gar took two and made them one. that comes to say that you're not permitted to cook even the fat of the animal with milk. Fat is also a problem. Now that's because holds on. You have the an animal was born with you're not allowed to eat on top of we're going to make another is we're going to give him a malus a second time because he cooked it with milk is fat. You're not allowed to eat the fats on the on these animals. And if you cook the fat with milk, you get a second lashing two. That's only behold as the does he really hold this interesting never really met him but we see this a lot of times says so and so says a lot of times like you see I think mentions the name of different like I don't think he met him he says is like he you heard from him. There are two problems in the BD that could happen. If the is or if the food is if a tummy and he eats that star he gets death penalty. How do you know if both of them are coming? The k is coming the food is the true is toming. You don't get the he makes it. How do you say in English? He takes he takes this piece of food and he makes it. He defiles it. He makes it not. So that's when you get the death penalty. It's already it's already see the idea of once it's already once you have the problem of your body that comes and and eats that it's not you're not going to be you don't that is doesn't go on top of the is of the food that's already so the says you know what you can look at it three different ways always any way you want you can say either holds or you could hold or you could say it's him and his let's see typically holds. So that's why you know you have a piece of fat you can put another on top of it but is different special it doesn't apply over there. Next say you could say in other words you can't put me in a corner. There's no question here. Either holds right now. Okay. He never holds but in our we have together you have this on the screen. you have this thing going and therefore it's a special that tells us okay where when you have and you have third answer is this is going to be himself and holds look at the We don't know anything. Okay, we just opened up the for the very first time [snorts] and we don't know. We many of us grew up with these and we're familiar with them. So we we kind of know that the of iser cow's milk as well. We take it for granted but the says gi is a goat. What's this? Can't cook a goat with his mother's milk. And what if it's not his mother? What if it's his sister? And he has two types of sisters. There's older sister and a younger sister. What does that mean? Older sister, we're going to see means a sister that's born in another year for meer. Meer is like rash to rash. She's born earlier. Or you have a younger sister in the same year. What about a cow, a goat that's not a mother? Maybe it has to be a mother type of animal. Has to be a cow that already gave birth and is nursing because she gave birth. What about a cow that didn't give birth yet? A pregnant cow, let's say, is nursing. Is that milk user? So, we all know the answer. What's the answer? Yes. But how do we know it? all these different things. This is She's not a mother yet. She has milk, but she's not a mother yet. I have to prove it. If you look at the bottom of the chart, it says the the bottom right corner, we're learning from not for not the milk of a of a male. And I said over, you know, the Gmorra, a male could have milk. Look it up in Google. It's possible. So a male milk doesn't count, but this female milk because one day she'll eventually she could come to being a mother. So therefore, it's us today. If you don't have this, it could get confusing here. I don't know which one is what. If you cook the fat inside of milk, we have you get malus. You don't get malus. What could the be if you cook milk together with fat? So based on what we just learned, it's easy. What's could you add one is on top of another is comes first. An animal's born with fat. It's also for you to eat. Now you take the fatty, you add milk to it, it's already it's like eating putting cheese on a cheeseburger on a burger which is already tra another is one one on top of over here. You already have it's also for you to eat and you're putting milk on top of it. Perhaps the one that says you get because you could do two. You get an additional and the other one maybe hold that's why you don't get for the no certainly you don't get on eating it. Why? There's no here. Why is there no? Because comes first. You hear this? It's very interesting question. Maybe you could get a malus for cooking. Why? There's only one going on over here. What's What does that mean? I want to give this guy makers for cooking. He didn't eat the he didn't eat this product. So he didn't he wasn't IV and he wasn't I but he did something else. He cooked it. Cooking alone is like the video with the guy cooking in the garbage can. That itself is aer cooking the two products together you get an iser. But here's the here's the question. It's a very question. Could you be on bish on cooking when you can't be on eating? You have a product here. The fat it's fat. It's also for you to eat. Then you add milk to it. You can't you can't add milk to it. It's already So the question is if you can't be eating, could you be cooking? Interesting. So says, "Yeah, why not? It's there. You cooked. Why not? The Tory called it three times even though one of them means eating. If you don't get malus for eating it, so you don't get malus for cooking it or you could go the other way. Everything is like you go in different directions here. We're not we can't be put in a corner. Of course, for for cooking it. Why? Because you just cooked two things that are awesome to cook together and say is on eating. You don't get a second is because you can't put a second on top of an original. And this mother says, "No, since you're over on cooking, so you're also on eating." One M says, "You get malus." Why? Because you cooked. The other says, "You don't get malus." Because he's talking about eating and there's no malus under eating. What is it called? That that that milk on top that water on top of the milk. Here we go. way. So that water on the bottom, rais here in Israel, when you open up a lean, I haven't done it in a while, you open up any yogurt, you'll see that little a little bit of water on top. Is that water considered milk or not? >> Huh? Milk or not? What do you say? >> It's not milk. You're not if you cook with that and if you cook blood with milk potter blood is not meat. So you have bones, senus, horns, hooves. We said even if you eat a bone of a of a lion, you're not over on tra. >> Well, I'm not talking about the the bone marrow or anything like that. Just the actual bone that's like wood. All this stuff is not considered a it's not considered. So what do you see over here? The fact that it's that oh so here's the question. So these are things that we learned in and whoever is with us invim is not a problem is very simple who's shing an animal in the mikdash and he wants to get the owner he doesn't like the owner that brought the the animal so he thinks in his mind just a thought he thinks he's going to eat this animal in three days from now instead of in one day two days he thinks in three days he ruined the animal and if he eats it he's so now this meat is no This carbon is no good. It's peagle. It's leftover. You have an animal you're supposed to eat for two days. It's left over in the fridge on the third day animal. So now the question is this animal is also what do you do with it? Are you on you are question is why the meat is also for you to eat? It's pigle. It's nicer. How you going to eat it? It's awesome. If you eat it, you get cars. So how could you put another is on top of it called? So what if you cook with with milk? It's already also from before. So what do you see that says you're right not a from there great was paying attention this we just learned that this water that comes the way that that separates from the milk it has of milk and the the water the the the liquid that comes out of olives has like oilish argues he says or explains says right we have the concept called what is that without showing the whole video just like the first frame here in order for any fruit or food stuff to become they have to be you have to >> susceptible >> no there's a better Excellence. >> Huh? Activate. >> Okay, we'll take the word. This is probably a better word. Okay, activate is not a bad word. Yes, this water stuff here, let's show the water again. This stuff at the end of the video in 19 hours whatever it is that water that way is considered like milk for the in order to make something to activate. Oh to activate the the food so that can become you have to spread some liquid. One of the seven liquids one of the seven liquids is milk. There's milk, honey, dew, wine, blood. So milk also includes the way but not for it's not enough milk for it to be if you cook it with meat. All right. I'm trying to say here is that we're going to do this kind of three times and it's the same idea. It's very different than usual not very but we're going to say and is going to be great and then right after we finish is great. The Gar brings a PU and then the Gar says, "But you just said, "Why do you need a Puk?" Oh, because I forgot is no good. We didn't do this three times in a row. Here's number one. Says, "How do I know that the milk of other animals besides a goat, such as a cow and a sheep, are also a problem for A cute story. Okay, you know what? Let's just do the I'll tell you the story in a second. There's no to to to have the the mother and the son have relations. There's no between a mother and a son when it comes to an animal. You as donor, you don't have no answer with it. Yet you're not allowed to cook the milk of the mother with the son. You're not allowed to put the cow together with a goat. Certainly, you shouldn't be able to cook with the milk of a cow together with the goat. You hear this again? a mother and a son, they don't have is yet there's so a cow that has with a goat certainly the the you shouldn't be able to cook it. So we have we have a that tells us that what it's also to eat with a cow. It's not just a goat. And then the says I have a comes to include other animals. I don't understand. You just finished saying it's perfect. We have I'll tell you why. Because is no good. I could ask a question on the beginning of the says the difference between the beginning of the end of the what's your brought from the mother you know a mother has but also it has a but it has a that what that you cannot check the mother and a son in the same day we had a whole perk earlier in the in the that talks So therefore, that's why you can't cook the mother and the and and the son a cow and a goat. They don't have that. That's why falls off because the mother has a certain that's why I need a ple. Now we're going to do the same thing again on another. So we're doing the same kind of interesting. We're going to finish then we're going to say oh we have a and then says so why do you need a because is no good. But we're learning a different. So, we know that when you have a bunch of animals, newborns, from that year, you take the animals and you put them in a pen and you let them out. You count 10. The 10th one gets a red dot. Now, what about an animal that was born a year before? You can't put it in the same pen. It's different. >> Do I have to show the whole thing or you guys know what it is? What? gets all the way to number seven. What does he do? Revise remember that >> and that become >> fine. So how do you know that the goat it's to cook a goat with its older sister from a different year? I'll give from his mother a mother. It's possible that a mother and her son are going to be in the same year of nicer because she was born the same year as her own son. They were both born in 2026. You hear this mother and son. So born in 2026 or tim what what year are we inv you take mice from both of them? But his his older sister, we're talking about not a younger sister. If a mother's milk is awesome, certainly the the the the sister who can't even be nicer with him. Okay, so we have a great to tell us what that a sister is milk is also with the goat. And then the says, Oh, what a beginning. You're ready off. You're bringing me right from the mother. Like we said before, the older sister, which is not in the same year of your a sister and a brother in the same day. And that's why we need a says a sister that was born in the same year as him. You're not allowed to use her milk. We're going to learn from a combination. Let's learn from the mother and therefore the younger sister. younger sister is not also to the same day. We already established that our older sister is also to use her milk and but older sister is not in the same year of miser the younger sister is maybe can't learn a younger sister from older sister mother will prove it but you said a mother's a problem because it's a problem of of okay the older sister will prove it and we go around in a circle I believe we have a chart here but it might be more confusing than that. Let's learn from all the way top going to learn but you can't sh the same day. So isn't the same. Okay. So we go around in a circle. Each one has a plus and a minus. But there's a common denominator of all three of them should be to to cook the the meat in milk. So two I'll bring the younger sister in other words the the sister of this goat that was born in the same yearcon. So just uh I just threw it in here. We could follow these steps if you want from a mother. Mother's also to cook with her son even though you take in the same year. So therefore should also be so no mother you can't bring a right from mother because mother is second in the purple so no I'll bring a r from a par that it's tof together with the goat yeah but a par is also in our so then we'll bring a from mother and then we go around in a big circle and kit why do I need a for the older sister says you I can learn it from these these things go around in a circle. I have another thing to learn from it. Oh, how do I know that you're not listen to this? How do you know that you're not a cow in its own milk? The Tory says you know how to chef the cow with its goat with its mother's milk. How do you know itself with its own milk? You're not let you know how to cook. Yeah. Can't cook. What I say chef? Forget she. So how do you know? Listen to this. How do you know that you know how to cook? I call it but you guys want to call it cook. So we call it cook. How do you know how to cook a goat in its own milk? >> [cough] >> two two fruits on the same day. In other words, a brother and a sister. Two fruits in the same day. The mother and her son on the same day preish. You know how to cook the meat together with the the meat of a of a son together with the milk of the mother. So that's two two fruit. The milk is a fruit and the son is a fruit. Certainly the mother herself with the with the fruit is not. So once again a third time we have the same thing. We have a great that teaches that a mother and her own milk is also the cook. And then the brings Listen to this. Not kidding. What's worse? What's closer in relationship? A son and a mother or a son and a sister? What's closer? >> Son and mother. >> That's what you think. >> Yeah. I don't know. Genetically, not genetically. Stop. What's the So, let's check this out. If you have a a horse and a horse got married and they had a horse son, but that mother horse married a donkey. What happened? What do they have together? >> A mule. >> Is the son a ladder married the mule? No. No. also two different two different um uh >> species but the son is allowed to marry his mother in this case. >> Yeah. Horse and his mother are allowed to get married. There's no answer. So what do you see? The brother and the sister are also but the brother and the mother are motor. So maybe the wants to say and pre the two offsprings are also together. So mela maybe the milk which is like a the horse son is mut to cook with the mother the milk is a pre it's a fruit of the mother so maybe you should be able to cook the fruit with the mother because over here in this case you'll marry off you the from that has two horses you'll marry off the the sun horse with the mother horse >> yeah you don't like this. Okay. >> Says, "What is what's the obvious answer at?" What's the obvious answer? >> Huh? What's the obvious answer? That the reason why the brother and sister not allowed to get married has nothing to do with the fact that they're brother and sister. The fact that they have a different father. The father messed the whole thing up. And I'll prove it to you because if you have a horse brother and a horse sister, they are allowed to get married. Oh, what if you have two? What if if these are the brother and sister? You have two mules that are brother and sister. In that situation, they wouldn't allow to be married get married. In that case, guess what? It's the reverse g. >> Yeah, >> you could calm down for a second over here. The son cannot marry his mother. Why? Why can he marry his own mother? Because they're two different species. It's funny. She gave birth to him, but he's a different species than his own mother. So, he can't breed them. >> Let's just finish this and then we're done for today. We'll prove it the same idea, but we'll prove it from slaves. Then what? Oh, we have a mother who is a slave and we have a son who's a slave and we have a sister who was released. She used to be a slave but she's released. So, who can marry who in this case say? The can marry his mother. This is this is super weird. David can marry his mother but he cannot marry a sister. Why can't he marry his sister? >> Cuz she's she's a full-fledged Jew. She's she's released says don't bring from I might have skipped some words over there but the no okay says get it's not it's not a relationship thing it's the fact that she was released and I'll prove it to you what about when the mother was released but the sister wasn't released so then it's reversed then a a brother can marry the sister slave But he cannot marry his own mother because she's already released. Wow, we're running late. Let's just get six more lines. You're not allowed to plant two different species of seeds in the ground. You're not to put two different types of seeds in the ground. But you allow to take one seed and put it with his mother. Who's the mother in this case? The ground. He's born from the ground. So his mother's the ground and pre even the two seeds together are not user only if you have the mother involved. In other in other words, if you have the ground involved if you take two seeds and you put them in a jar in a glass cup, nothing happen. You're not over anything. It's when you put in the ground and the ground is the mother. So you have two two fruit with the mother. In other words, you have the meat and the milk. It's two separate entities. But the milk with its own it's like one entity. That's why I need a wonderful week. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdyop.com.