CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 126 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[screaming] These are for me super exciting suggests. Great great stuff. We're holding by Omar like 12 lines from the top. 2 4 6 8 10 12 13 lines from the top [clears throat] yesterday. Let's remind what we're talking about. This is a full kaz. These two pieces separated. You have a half a kaz and a half a kaz. We spoke about and we're going to continue to speak about these fascinating uh ideas of let's say if you touch two half of kazim. We [clears throat] saw that says you become if you touch one okay if you do two oils would be the same idea. You put your hand on top. We also discussed the that the American cheer was mish fire you know they they didn't want to accept this this but it's it's real it's a real kdish that oil also goes downwards so if if it was held up in the ear by like a toothpick if this was a toothpick and you put your hand over here you are to some of the confusion seem to be like people were thinking saying during shir that you know it's only when there's a a top but it's the opposite tuma naturally goes straight up to to the sky. Goes it always goes up. >> It always goes up. Now, if you put something on top of it, you could stop it and then it starts going around. It goes into the room, starts spreading this way to the sides. But it really it's like a laser beam. It has to go up. If you stop it like smoke, it has to go up. If you stop it, then the smoke starts spreading around in the room. Sometimes if you stop it and it's too low, it's within the temple, then it bursts out. the the laser beam can continue going upwards but that it goes up it goes down it goes in all directions fine the other so then we spoke about if you touch one and you put oil on the other I'm saying these are unbelievable stuff it's do they combine and we said welli holds that oil on top is really touching we started going into oh is it very close is touching and what about over here it's not touching but Oil could be a form of touching could be a maga and therefore touching the purple and oil on the orange is touching and touching touching and touching goes together even though it's oil but it's touching oil it's literally like touching why I'm touching the laser beam there's a laser beam of that comes out and I put my hand touched it says no I I disagree the laser beam goes up all the way to the sky so if you touch over here you're still touching It's still maga right over there is maga dummy oil. So So when do I say it's just a regular oil without touching? Everybody in this room is in the oil of these two guys. You're not above this. Nobody's above these two pieces. But we're in a room that the tum hit the the side and spread all over the place. Went that way. Oh, I'm going to show you video soon of that happening. in a minute. But we're in this room in it's a continuation of the toma of the laser beam spreading everywhere. So we're in a continuation not in we're not touching the laser beam. We happen to be in the okay in the ricochet of the how do I know this idea that even though it's more than above [clears throat] I'm still touching oil over here it's a Oh, this is so first let's talk about this bed before I [clears throat] show you the video. This is a typical bed. Well, maybe a bed of aim. You know, this is super comfortable. You these taught ropes. They go from side to side. Or you could use this kind of idea in the windows. They don't want a guy to come in. So he put these ropes in the windows. He won't be able to get in. Now check this out. As you all see these ropes, they have they have space between them. The space is less than a. So since it's part of the house or part of the bed, we consider those spaces as closed off. And therefore, if you have tum underneath, what's going to happen? It's going to stop the tuma. Ah, this it's holy. It like it can go through. No, it stops it. Here, check out the video. The tuma, the tuma comes into the whole room, but is stopped by the surim by Okay. So now what if the are not part of a bed, not part of a house. It's like this just floating in the air somewhere. So it's it doesn't allow the to go into the top floor. It won't go to the second side to the other side. If you put this above a dead person like in this picture, this is the key word right here. If you touch and here you see the idea of touching the ear, you're not touching anything physical. You're touching [clears throat] uh above one of those holes in the in the mattress in this uh in this thing right over here. You're putting your hand on the open space. Anything that's not on a rope, the ropes themselves stop the toma. between the ropes. The tom escapes and goes upwards. So if you put your hand upwards, you're touching the laser beams are going through the ropes. I call upon him. You see that he used the word that what you a person puts his hand above this screen and the toma shoots out through the holes. You're touching the toma says that's touching. It's above. It's more than a but if you put your hand by the rope anything on the rope is not if you put your hand sideways where there's a rope it won't become the the rope protects the to from going up says what's the situation if it's very close to the mace this thing is lowered down within of the dead person why does the rope protect at speaks. This is literally like it's like his clothing and the dead person is with his clothing. So you have to say that it's above you said the word that you touch the laser beam. No, not we're talking about that it's lower than the what was your question that it's literally like is different when you put shrouds. When you put the on a mace, it becomes ble to the mace. It's for the dead person. It's his. So, it becomes ble to him. This is not for the mace. This happens to be a swing. I don't know what people use this for. Has nothing to do with the mace. So, since it's not for the mace, it's not it's not ble to the mace. And therefore, don't bring me a even though it's within one. So, we don't have a that that's called touching more than a because we don't this is not talking about more than a ask. If it's less than a just another code word to is a second after this right there. Stop. Good. So this this is tuma or ratuta. It means that it explodes out. You can't contain it. If you're going to give it very little room, you're going to give it you're going to put this bed, this frame, this mesh, this rope lower than a automatically the to is going to burst out. Like in a grave, if you have less than a it bursts out. So how come it doesn't burst out above the ropes? If you put your hand sideways above the ropes, you're why shouldn't the go right through the ropes? So now we're going to have a little bit of a discussion. holds that the tuma doesn't burst out and go. It stays it remains under the under the mattress at least with his rope. He doesn't he doesn't hold this thing that it burst out. How do you know that he holds that? The thing is people get nervous right away because they're not familiar. They don't they don't remember from other places. So we have this here's a drawer that slides in and out. You know, it doesn't have to have the sliders that we have today. Just it's a piece of wood, a box, a box that fits into a compartment. >> They have them. They sell this in uh in IKEA. You know, they said they have these open things and you pull out in and out. You have a drawer. Very posh. Listen to this. You have a drawer. Inside the drawer is tum. You slam the drawer shut. The drawer is more than a tap in all directions. That means it allows the tuma to play around in the drawer. It has no no reason to want to explode. It's a teenager that you give him some room. So you give him a tap on all sides. It's good. The only issue is it has a hole in the front. Could the tum escape from that hole? Could another question. Let's say you had a loaf of bread in there. Well, like the loaves of bread in the other on the other on the right side. Maybe they were in the drawer. Could the tuma let's say you had a dead person in the house. Could the tuma come through that hole in? Why is there a hole there? That's normal. In IKEA also, they have a hole so you can pull out the drawer. So now let's go back here. So you see the drawer is closed. If the drawer is closed could so I mean should not be going out through that hole it's completely contained within the drawer is stuck in there just what made according to that it's why because that the whole house is tummy cuz eventually it's going to start smelling or whatever you're going to want to take that piece of tum out of there. So you're going to open up the drawer. Oh, when you open up the drawer, then the tom escapes into the house. So they said, "Okay, it's Tommy right now." You have a um what we call um an ammoir a thing of drawers. The drawer itself, this this wooden box has at least a above the but the hole is less than a let's say there's there's a mace inside the drawer. The whole house is but if the dead person is in the house the drawer protects what'sever inside cannot enter through that hole. It can leave through the hole. Why? say that the tomb eventually is going to go out and then it's going to fill up your house. We're going to say that it's right now. What's the question to that? Who says the tomb is going to go out? I have a way to get the tum out without opening up the drawer even. >> I could cut it in half. I could cut the tum in half. I could stick a knife in there and cut it in half. I could burn the drawer. says we're talking about you can take it out in halves in less than a to burn right there and therefore the house will never become pay attention very simple over here but pay attention to where talks about it seems like the first time I learned this I was proud of myself I understood what was saying because look at this it says says if you take this whole how do you call it in English this thing Okay, whatever. >> Look at this. The first case was this. It's in the house. Okay. But the second case is you put it by the door. So where's the hole of the tuma facing? >> Outside. If I wanted to remove the tuma, how am I going to go? I'm going to go around for my side door, open up the drawer, and pull out the tuma. And therefore, I don't have a concern that it's going to fill up my house with tuma. So in this case, it's going to be tar. If the opening to the drawer is to the outside of the house, the that's inside the drawer, the house is why because you're going to eventually take it out outside of but if the tum is in the house, what's inside the drawer is tar. So what does he say? What does this Mishna say? What does this tells this that if you put it outside like this, it's tar in all cases. It doesn't affect anything in the house and it doesn't affect. Okay. And what does say on this mat? Wait a minute. We just said tar and comes and says tar. What does say? He added anything. So if you're reading comprehension, what's talking about? Simple reading comprehension. Not on a first grade level on a on a higher level. Again, we have a first that says that if this chest is over here, then it's a big problem. It makes the whole house tummy. If the chest is over here, it's tar. Tarjin says, "Oh, it's tar." Is he talking about this case? No. We just said it's tar. He obviously is talking about this case. >> And he says, "This case, what's going on? What is he What is he adding? He's talking about what we just read. Everybody holds a star." So why would he say oh it's t if the it's in the house like this picture is I say the whole house is the what you might open up the drawer and the tomb will escape into the house just want to show you a beautiful uh the way we wrote it in our read this real quickly what does it mean who's talking about over here when less of space in which case implies the cond of the house when the cabin in the doorway open as he only ruled the cond of the house when the cabin has a space because breaks through. Oh, so the saying is or what the is it seems like from the tanama that when the when the drawers are facing outwards it's because it's facing outwards but let's say it didn't have a and the didn't have a a way to to play around in the drawer it would break out of the drawer and go into the house of that's the that's that's the and on that he says no it's still tar So argues in two things says this that you tell me that usually a person opens up the drawer and takes it out. No, you could just do it in the drawer. You know, it does not necessarily you're not necessarily right that you you have to take the toma out. Sometimes I can do it in the drawer and I could avoid the whole to in my house. And this that you're you're implying that if there was less than a it would explode into the house and make the whole house it says now I'm thinking again the whole case was that the the drawer has more than it says the drawer has more than what does that mean that if has less >> yeah so so like this So, the diamonds that you gave me last night for my son to to look at. Um, I don't know. We got we got about Okay. Yeah. Let's go. So, we have a contradiction here. It's beautiful. A dog that ate the the the meat of a mace. The dog dies. The dog dies. He eats meat and he dies. Now it's very it's fascinating. Another fascinating you have human flesh inside a dog. If he's alive, it's not a problem. But once he dies, what happens? It's like the tum wants to explode, wants to come the there's a dead man in in a dog and that to wants to come out and how does it affect the house? So it depends where the dog is laying. Now his mouth his mouth is facing the house. Okay. And we're going to see does the tuma the gar understands that the tum inside the dog explodes upwards. It's like we said in the bone, you know, you have the bone marrow explodes out. If the dog has one in the width of his neck, which is a super interesting because look, here's here's a dog's neck. It's one teak. What does a with have to do with tum? Usually an opening. We said if the opening in the drawer was a then the tum could escape. That's what is going to say the second at the end of the talking about the opening is like this big. But now we're saying because we're going to use a concept called we're not going to get into it. You could carve out and if you carve the whole thing out you have opening of a. So if that is by the house, the house is maybe then it brings the tum and if it doesn't maybe if it doesn't have a no. Now the door has um [cough] what is it called? A frame. Let's call it a frame. So if the dog is [cough] it depends where the dog is. If the dog is laying within the frame towards the house in the inside part because we're understanding right now holds there is a concept of the toma exploding out. We just said disagrees with that idea. We said that's how we started not started but at the bottom of here we're saying again that does not be there's no tumor so it doesn't explode. Over here it says it does. But if it's if it's on the doors stop like like the you know the the stoop the door stoop this is like a like a stone like a step in front of the house. If it's in that area the house is if his mouth is towards the house says there's something very simple. Where is that human flesh going in what direction? It's going towards out. It's not coming. It's not It's never going to exit through the mouth. He's going to go to the bathroom and it's going to go through the that way. So, the mouth is not important. Now, what's important is is the tail where it's going to come out. So, if the tail is pointing towards the house, then the tomb is going to go that way. If the mouth is towards the house, then it's it's kosher. Sorry, I skipped. Sorry. If the the mouth is away from the house then the house is why because that means his tail is towards the house to eventually is going to come out. It doesn't matter face if his mouth is towards the house the tail is towards the house. If he's inside the house, outside the house, this way, that way, all six ways it's the the house is talking about this case right over here. And says if there's no there is to why because the tum explodes out of the dog, there's a dead person in the dog. The the skin of the dog doesn't have the power to to to contain it. Tuma is always according to there is a kind of that explos we're talking about this case that there's a full opening and through that opening it come out now you might ask me what kind of dog has a opening it's huge it means might you know the whole so say Bernard or it's a theoretical concept if you have an animal like a like a like a elephant a lion that that it mouth is that big. Do we say that the tumor goes out or not? Argu told me that if it has this this case just one one that's enough. No, no, no. That's not true. I don't do I don't do that whole thing. You need a full opening of a for the tomb to come out. Maybe I need a um how do you sayal in English? Cavity. a whole hole. No, it's not true that the whole what's under the door. If it's towards the house if it's towards the outside anyways you don't see anything over here about holding about to because it's not about to it's about the opening the could come out of the that hole actually says that's exactly what said we're talking about opening in a in a pipe the tum could go through the pipe out not about the tum exploding out of the dog that's not what we're talking about said it Remember to put a box over my head. So there's two cases. I'm touching this and putting my hand over this. So that we said this is considered mag and this is for sure maga. Two magas together. Half his eyes and half his eyes. That's a whole z. Even though this is oil, but it's oil called maga. What about when you put a cardboard over me, Ellie Stfansky? And that same cardboard is also over this. I'm I didn't put my hand over it. The cardboard is over this and [snorts] the cardboard is over me. I'm in the same oil as a half a piece of gaz and my hand is on the purple one that's outside of the cardboard. On that we say no, it's no oil and that not. So who's the one that says not? So what are the three tombs we're talking about? [clears throat] This is ma >> masa. >> Masa >> and oil. Maga touching masa. If it's on my head and I walk around with it, that's masa. And oil is if I'm in the same room. Now I'm going to introduce three things that we could do this together. We could see this whole these next 10 lines. We could understand it very much on our own. We don't need any help. When you have decomposed dust of a dead person, what kind of toma could you do with it? Oil. Could you do oil with it if you have a full thing? Oil? Yes. [clears throat] >> Could you do masa with it? >> Yes. Could you do maga with it? >> Why not? Very yo, nobody. Just you, the jaffy. Why? >> It's a lot of billion different particles. >> The million different particle. Beautiful. You're holding. >> Oh, so take a look at this. Very good. Maso oil. Yes. Mag. No. It's a million different particles. [clears throat] That's bats the right there because he holds that maga is not oil. He's we just said oil is maga and he says maga is not oil. [clears throat] Now when you have a tiny piece of bone let's think about it. If you lift it are you are you tame? >> Yes. If you're if you're in the same room as it as are you to >> no why it's too small. But if you do ma if you touch it yes masa yes oil not let's see oil no that's what is saying is that these three items on the bottom you have aire you have the which is the which is the arin the >> how do you say the casket each one one of the three tumas one of the three ways of of um >> acquiring to mag oil doesn't work one of them doesn't work on each one of them and this one I'm not even going to ask you to guess because this is just almost doesn't make sense that lifting the the the casket the you do not become but you if you touch it you become if you put your hand on it you become there's three tumors they come from a dead person there's a lot more but we're only going to discuss three each one has two as you've seen this list oil masa oil not masso This is what we're talking about. These are the three things the decomposed dust in a small bone in the casket. Everybody understood that it's there's lifting an oil. Oh, so if we stop right over here, this is against hold that there is by because oil are one of the same. So, where is their maga? You're going to have to put them in the the next two have. Look at the list. They're red. Yeah, it's when you have a chart. Now, you know what means the other two on the on the left? The middle one. It's too small for oil. So, where is their oil? On the right. And on the left of the is oil. When it comes to a casket, >> where is where is where's masa and the other two the have those it has when you have the femur of an of the of over here it says it nicely with the It seems this hole in the veil, not an enclosed femur. What if it has a little hole in it? If you touch it, well, listen, it has a hole. So, you could touch it then. If you could, you don't have to. If you could possibly touch it through a hole, if you have a dead animal that just died and it's in its skin, you can't touch the meat, so it shouldn't be avail. You could get to the meat. It has plenty of holes. Where's my Where's my It's a real kid. Uh, it's a real kidney from our and we might as well use it. Now, if you look at this, it's unbelievable. It's completely enclosed in fat. Ask the gimmar. You can't get to it. I can't get to the So, now I'm going to try to get to it. It's frozen. Oh, here he goes. >> That inside is the kidney. >> But if How am I? How is this going to give me tuma if it's closed like this? >> Says the Oh, let me just show you this. Oh, it's already an hour. Sorry. Um, just to show I want to show you. >> We don't really need this, but okay. I just showed it to you live, but this revises the cooling was so gmack was unbelievable. Oh, left already. You did. That's it. >> So, now we understand's question beautifully. And also here, check this out. You see that string? He's showing you the strings and this and that. Okay. So, there's a lot of strings. In other words, different um [laughter] different blood vessels, different things that come out of it. That's considered meat. So, a simple question. A person has a bone, a femur, and he thought he's going to drill a hole in it, but he didn't. Is it considered as if he did it because he wanted to? It's as if he made a hole in it. There's a gear here, by the way, that takes out the word and it's yes. So, we don't know what to do. It could be it's a fascinating and I have you have a which one of these uh lays eggs you know which one of these and lays eggs turtle >> the is not a turtle it's a it's a frog more like a toad okay it's called a turtle but it's not >> the the snail >> what about the lizard does the lizard lay eggs >> everybody would say yes you're not going to believe this lizards that lay eggs and there are lizards that don't. There's some lizards that give birth. Did you know that? It's fascinating. >> How? I don't know. This one, check it out. This is a type of a lizard. It's chameleon. But I'm saying even in the lizard, I just picked one cuz it looked cool. But they anyway, so if you have an egg of a that's already, you know, it has the shell, so it's tired. The shell protects. But if it has a small hole like we were discussing if the shell has a hole listen if you have a mouse that's half flesh half earth dirt. So there's a ramb in on our gar on perchi mishnav you can look over there he says it's a he can't understand this he says many people I love the lion he says many people told me they saw this mouse half flesh here it looks something like this maybe half flesh half dirt he says many people saw me but logically it doesn't make sense that's what he says like basically saying don't believe everything people tell you he says but the mission says it we have to understand what it means Some people say again it's a theoretical thing. What if you did this not uh doesn't really explain the suki so well I'll just keep keep on reading a buser if you touch the the buser part doesn't really show but okay so you got hit by the mouse trap. So if you touch the the meat part the meat side then you're if you touch the the dirt side then you are says if you do this you touch that part you are sorry you are if you touch that thing have a wonderful day [music] merit this of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a share today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor at mdyop.com.