CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 128 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] Okay, we are holding by Elon Shanshak [snorts] Boy Paris. No, we almost got the two dots. That's by the way. So, we have this this tree. Wow. This is in bad bad shape. But this tree that is either completely detached from the tree, a branch either completely detached or semi-attached. What does conclusion? So what does that conclusion mean? For all purposes, for the two things that we know of, it's completely removed from the tree. In other words, this is completely detached from from a tree. Are you allowed to pluck a fig on chabas? Yes. It's not attached to the ground. It's it's just on a on a branch. Is this fig right here? This fig detached everything. If a sheriff touches it, Tommy or not to. this. Just because it's attached to a branch doesn't mean it's attached to the ground. >> Who said it's part of the food? It's food. >> No, but who cares? We're not even talking about the branch. It's on the ground. He didn't touch the branch. He's touching. I'm not even going in. Maybe it's maybe it's not. I think it's not mukt. But at anyway, two things. This is considered completely detached. For two things, the gar says for shabas, if you pull it off the branch, it's not cliche. And for tum it is to it's not attached to the ground. Great. Now let's continue. Therefore the wants infer from here. What if it was attached to the tree? I'm a little horse for say if it's attached to the tree and it dried out on the tree. Now the it says in the just one lion it's so I would say oh it means that it's completely attached for both things number one for shabas if I detach if I pluck off one of the figs I'm on chabas even though it's completely y look at this look how brown this this is actually the best fig on this whole branch right now the rest are all like moldy and I don't know what the one that Yoshi be painted and also for the of that it won't be why because it's attached to the ground just like in the beginning of the it goes is for two so is for two for two things for two things that what the main point that we're trying to bring out here is that it's not that if it's not like we were saying the whole time that if touches this fig that's attached to the tree but it's dry that it is Tommy over it's not every time it says this in I think I should ask my every time the next words follow the beginning of the is talking about two things that are it's considered and the end of the is only talking about one great next If an animal has a major situation, what's the situation? Its leg is dangling by a thread and then you sh it. So the blood of the makes it what do we call it? It activates it activates. It's what is the source of who says that the dam the blood creates a because look every animal every piece of meat every fruit you have to get it wet with one of the seven liquids. One of the seven liquids is blood. Says this blood from the is enough. Says not interesting. Today we're going to see six different ways to learn the then we're going to have five different I'm just saying large numbers. Six ways to explain is huge. Then on towards the bottom we're going to have five of the same exact question which is basically a freebie. And then we have a nice long id. Great. So what could be the the very short and simple but again what's we have an animal and it leg is dangling by a thread says it's susceptible to tum right away because it has blood from the says no way you have a large animal imagine a 2,000 lb animal and a 20 pound leg. Does it make sense to you that a 2,000lb animal should be a handle for 20 lb leg? You have a handle. You have a a 5 lb handle with a 2 lb hammer on top. Whatever whatever the thing is the ratio. But the a giant of animal should be a handle for little foot. No, that's another way to learn the we have it on chabas a lot of times you cut a kala you cut it a little bit too much how do you know if you messed up if you grab the small piece and the whole kala rips away you know you messed up that's what says if just cuz if you hold the large piece and the the little one still hangs on doesn't mean anything you got to grab the small piece and if from the weight it pops off then you you don't have a schlam over there over here also if I grab the leg and the and the animal tears it away then is that considered that it's attached or not that's over here yes it's attached by a thread but is that thread any good okay no we said this holds. So what if you you if the if the big part breaks off, remember this cuz in in in in a minute we're going to attack this. What does Rome hold? Romero holds that even if the big piece pulls away, it's fine. The small and the big are attached right now. They're attached since it's possible to break away easily like the like we pass by. So too when it comes to a mandal leg that's about to break off if it break off if you hold on to it is broken off right now says also holds that that's a contradiction is it possible that we just said holds that even if the small piece breaks away from this large piece it's considered they're attached We're talking about truma just we're learning tomorrow in the Hebrew tonight we're going to be done with this peric considered a tougher peric you know a lot of concepts that people are not familiar with here's a concept what's a tuly that we know everybody knows what tulyim is right unless you started today is a person who's t goes to the mikvah let's say he goes in the afternoon he's still semi-to semi now until what until what happens if aim touches truma he makes it puzle yes his tuma is super weak but if he touches truma which is super sensitive becomes puzzle so if you have a piece you have a piece of um a pomegranate. It's one of the it's for sure truma. Well, not for sure cuz you have you have a grape. You have a little bit of a grape that uh semi attached to another to the other piece of it and the touches it. Now all of a sudden makes a distinction. If you could hold on to it and it doesn't break away then it's one but if it breaks away it's two. We just said a second ago there are that if it breaks away it's one. We don't care if it breaks away. Contradiction. So says the we must say that mayor when it comes to he switched it around what's the question at all okay perhaps he could make a distinction between and other mayor holds that if you break it off it's considered two pieces but another to is not is differenti disagrees because it's weak the weak a weaker type of but over here says that is the same thing as other maybe maybe does make a distinction says that according to Rebi only over here by does Rome switch a but in general you see the holds here this is a right holds the holds that when you have two pieces one is a large piece one is a small piece and if you grab it by the small piece it breaks away it's fine Another in the m what's the m again? If you have an animal that has a severed leg and it's dingling by a thread, it's a dald and you it and you have blood. Is the blood enough to be? Yes. the the animals a handle to the to the tuma, but it's not a handle for just because you spill water on one grape doesn't mean the the the that is going to go on the other grape is different than tuma could travel through. It has it's like electric is like electric. You can make a distinction, right? Is there a do we say there's a handle that could bring the the liquids that touch one part of the animal to the other part of the animal? That's says no it doesn't work for water for liquids. It doesn't work for the for the liquids to make it says no and that's not the problem. But what happened was that his his thought process of of getting this guy to eat it, he said, "I'm going to let the guy eat it." I made in this whole We're going to have it tomorrow also. Means to think I'm giving it to the guy to eat. But when did when did the water hit it? When did the the actual happen? You have a piece of fat in a in a little village. Nobody eats the fat over there. So, it's not really food. It's not considered a food. You have to think that you're going to give it to the guy. You don't have to put it under liquids. Why? Because it already had the liquids on it at the time of the We didn't see this. This new when Oh, that's perfect. That's exactly what we're saying. If the water touches the yacht, does it go to the meat? It's good. Valdic the dead chariots. Okay, you guys got it. Since the water touched the handle, does it is it susceptible to did it activate the toma? Fine. But we're not holding there now, unfortunately. You have this uh this vegetable that you you harvested and when you rinsed it, you had in mind that you're going to give it to an animal. So, it's not human it's not for human consumption. There was a change of designation. You decided later on you you're going to make a you're going to make a meal out of it. Listen, we have great talent. Kobe, our editor, we moved him over to making videos now. He does. Do you still do editing also? Okay. Show you a very nice video that he did. Here we go. Check this out. This is so good. He's thinking to give it to his animal. It's not It's not for human. When he rinsed it made, [music] >> why are you washing that? >> It's [snorts] for bunny. Sally see mish. Oh, so the question is, is it tar because you put it in the sink before you saw the cookbook or there's no um no. Yeah, he knows. He knows. He'll fix it. Fine. It's not posh. No, seriously. The mats of the internet and this and that. the the the the artists are struggling because the internet is a little on the weak side and this didn't come in the right way on okay and he says oh you're right is it do we go with the first no we go with the second that's there is a handle for tum But not for I love this one. This is galdic. There's a piece of blood on the animal after the and then he wipes the blood away. But then he does the second after when you do have to only do one simmon. The blood the was only there for one simmon. So what's the it's not like a common concept in it's unique for I mean it must be somewhere else also but let's see where it says it says over here and you know from okay means does the begin and it's a long long process and the whole thing is a process or is it only at the end. If it's only at the end, we have a major problem. Why? Because the blood by the time we got to the end was no longer there. So there's no there was no by the time it was end before. Before it wasn't real if only at the end. So the blood when it was there before you wiped it off was not real. The blood only happens at the end. Oh, so now the fame we had this also in this holds that the blood has no effect on the susceptibility of over here. What makes us susceptible to the cutting boy? Okay. So now we just finished six explanations. Now we're doing five cool questions. So here's the question. It's one question really five times. When you have two things touching each other, one thing is not susceptible to tuma, the other thing is, and you put the electric on the part that's not susceptible. Does the electric current travel through it to the part that's susceptible? You put the tuma on the part that's not susceptible to to tuma at all. Does it is it a conduit to tuma? You have an animal that's alive and well a live animal. Could a live animal when it's alive? Could it become human being? Yes. Animal? No. So since an animal cannot become tom could when you give it a nice electric shock you put tuma on its back but it can't become tom does it travel through the animal to its leg that's hanging by a thread the leg that's hanging by a thread we said is susceptible to tuma but it's connected to a body that's not susceptible to tuma could the tuma travel through the body and get to the leg yeah you hear we're going to have this question a few times by the end understand I don't know the answer. This might be slightly counter in intuitive. Check this out. Perfect. It doesn't have a hole in the bottom. If it has a hole in the bottom, it's y. It nurses. It nourishes from the ground. If something nourishes from the ground, it's connected to the ground. If it's connected to the ground, it's not mabo. But this guy doesn't have a way to nourish. He's He has no holes. No holes. He's disconnected from the ground. Disconnected from the ground. It's a little counterintuitive. Is Mabo. You great. Now you have leaves hanging over this pot, including some fruit right over here. You see these little fruit guys? Perfect. They knew what I needed. These guys nourish from the ground. They nourish from the ground. They're attached to the ground. Attached to the ground. No. No. Then the rest of the plant is not great. It grew. The whole thing is start. I don't get it. Why? Just cuz this little guy is dangling outside and it's nourishing so that it should have an effect on the whole plant. No way. This part maybe but not the rest. Okay. So he argues he says the whole thing is mabal tuma. This the these little guys hanging over are not mabum. question. If I take a dead rat and I put it on this part which is not does it travel through the branch and get to the part that is but it's the same question. It's the same question as the animal. Does it travel through the animal to the leg? Travel through this branch to the rest. Same question five times in a row. Got lucky today. what's over here on this plant is what's not is not great. So that's what he asked the same question. Can this this part hanging dangling out can it be a handle for the rest of the plant? Same question again. There's a pumpkin and a guy bows to half the pumpkin. So what did he just do? He made it. It's not food anymore. You can't eat it. You can't even give it to So if it's not food, then it's it can't be it's not susceptible to. Oh, so once again, we have a we have a pumpkin that's half susceptible to half. Not what happens if you touch half Can you go from one to the other and make it? Yeah. Once again, we're going back to this easy stuff. Yeah. This guy that was broken off a tree, but it's hanging. It's dingling from the tree by a thread. It's attached to the tree. So he says, "It depends. If it could live, then it's attached to the trees. If it can't live, it's finally have a question. Since it could live, can it be a handle to uh let flow through it? You have I'm going to show you a video for this. You have a house that has harass one of the stones is that when you have the first time the goes comes in, you take the entire stone out. Even if it disturbs the neighbor, even if you share a wall with the neighbor, you remove the stone and he has a nice you have a hole. How you doing? But if if the co comes back a second time and there's a tarass on another another stone. So now you have to knock down the whole house. Knock down the whole house. You have on the neighbor. You chop your half of the stone out, but you leave his half in. You have a a cornerstone that goes to two houses. If you with the first time you remove it, you have to remove the entire stone. But when you break down the house, you only break your part, not your friend's part. The the friend's part, could it be it's the the the part that's not not could it be susceptible? Could it be a conduit to fine new? If the animal dies, it has a dingling leg and it dies without youing it. So the says you have to you have to uh you have to make it with water. What's the difference? The mission says there's a difference. Oh, this one is this one is aren't both of them. Says the yes, there's a difference. When you have a piece of flesh that's alive from a live animal, it's not a neighbor. It's not a limb. It doesn't have bones in you. It's just a piece of flesh. The meat itself is not. But if it if it comes from an a from dead animal, it's where do you see that? This tuma for a limb that comes from a live animal tum part that you're not allowed to eat it. I get it. But that that it gives off says from the animal says but I already use that up for another name say it was from the everybody from MDY knows this that when you sh an animal right you sh an animal in the today and you open it up and you find that it has a defect in its lungs It has a in its lungs. It's a tra. It's a tra Does give off or not? It doesn't. Why not? But where does it say it? What does it mean? Sometimes a gives off, sometimes not. An animal that that turns out to be a does not give off to say, you're right. I do learn it from the word. But I can learn it from the look [snorts] could be one just the men without the why say I learned two things. If that's the case means even part of the animal. So even part means even think that meat is meat the flesh part could reproduce. Is that the right word? There might be a better word. >> Regenerate. Regenerate. Meat could regenerate. Oh meat is not susceptible to we have three over here again says anything that doesn't regenerate not says it has to have senus and bones but meat does not have senus and bones and therefore it's not says something very similar but he adds one three things and I've called what's the difference is the bottom part of the leg it doesn't have any flesh it's bones and senus and rebi says so since it doesn't have baser it's just it's not susceptible to it is susceptible to why is the one that says if it doesn't regenerate a kidney these things the the lips don't regenerate. So this is a freebie. It's word for word. The same thing, the same the meat that comes off a has to regenerate. Meat regenerates and therefore the meat of is not once again. You need sen and bones. So therefore meat is not included in this. Not susceptible to You need three things. the bottom part of the leg which doesn't have so regenerates the the kidney doesn't regenerate but it's the I need both of these the the regular animal is very susceptible to even the small size of a lentil so therefore it's Maybe since it's more it's more susceptible. It should be meat. The meat of it should be even when it's alive. Therefore, it's weak, it should be, that's why its meat, its flesh is not when it's alive. But an animal if you lift up an even if you don't touch it, you just lift it. You are so maybe it's more susceptible to even when it's alive, the buser should become say thank you so much for being for Shabas. Have a good have a meaningful and >> merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor atmop.com.