CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 131 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] So yesterday we were talking about a fascinating thing and that is the mat the gifts that gives the certainly the is gives the kay. The question is does the ley thelafracks of the world do they have to give the do they have to givea the three parts of the the animal that we do the mission says but the mission only brings that and the question is what if someone takes those and eats them or destroys them before he gives it to the kite does he have to pay the kite so we said yesterday everybody kind of agreed to it and they figured it out on their that one of the reasons not is because his mom and nobody could actually pursue it and go after you because you're the maybe it's the other no could go and and and sue you in court in says the seven lines from the bottom. So here's a concept here. I know some people are starting the d today. There are people starting today. I know of two. They might not even know what tea is. Not everybody knows what tea is. Tevil is when you have fruit produce and you're supposed to give trumas and micers. Truman you give to the mice you give to the ley. In fact, let's just look at this simple chart. I'm not even going to show you the video today. When you have a 100 fruit, you have to give two of them. 2% to the kite. First, you give the kite. At least 2%. To the ley, you give 10% of the 98% that's left over. So, just we'll round it out. 10. You give him 10 apples. 10 pomegranates. [clears throat] It's a one of the but it's better if it's grapes but okay let's call it apples. 10 apples. Once you give 10 apples to the ley the ley also is required to give truma. Just like you gave chuma in the beginning you give chumda 2%. The ley has to give truma also from his. How much does he give to the kay? He gives 10%. So in other words, he's giving him one apple out of a 100 apples, he got 10 and he gives 10% of those 10. So he takes one apple out of it's 1% of the original and gives it to the kite. So now the really got 3% total. Now you have there's seven years to get the shmita. You start counting after 1 2 3 4 5. In years 1, two, four, five, you give me sheni, you give another 10% to yourself. On years threes and three and six, instead of giving, you give something called you give 10% like we do. We try to give, you know, a lot of people I speak to them, they don't really give micer. It's it's one of these things that not everybody's so mak some people are super mak they give 20%. Some people you ask them where do you give your me to? They don't [clears throat] really give. So 10% on years three and six you give you give to the to the okay. So now if it's you didn't give me so here that's why we had to say because the 10% that the ley receives from you the is he has to give now that he has 10 apples he has to give one of them to the guy that's called and he didn't give he didn't he ate all 10 apples I'm poor I'm this kind doesn't need any you know people lazy he didn't He doesn't have to pay. He doesn't have to give an apple to the learns. When you separate, that's when you have a problem. Before your separation, before you set aside that one apple for the or your two apples, 10 apples for the ley, two apples for the kim, before you did that, But let's say you did separate. You put aside 10 apples for the levy and then you decided to eat them or we're not talking about the talking about the you put aside two apples for the and you decided to eat them. It seems like you'd have to pay. But that contradicts the the concept that we said yesterday that what this is money that nobody could sue. There's no particular kay where else do we find this concept [clears throat] by by a poor person can't say hey you owe me there there's no k in the world that could come and say you owe me two apples because maybe I want to give to maybe I want to give to Donnie fine nobody can come and sue so says and that it's incredible how time flies the same answer that we said yesterday. The Israel gives the he says, "Do me a favor. Watch this whole pile of wheat." The goes and says, he says to himself like a rebi uh not let's say you're as a parent, you have a bunch of uh prizes for your children. You have a prize. If they do, they make their bed, they talk, whatever it is, you're going to give them a little little chachka for for a dollar. And the your kid goes sneaks into the closet and takes a couple. He says, "Well, you're gonna give it to me anyway if I was." So I took it now. I took it three days early. Why not? So that's the that's the that's the that's the ten over here. You're going to give it anyway. So since you're going to give it anyway, I'm taking it now. So he takes the the the 10% the kind decides on his own I'm going to take the 2% from this pile of of of unmeered untrum fruit because it's heare I'm taking from the heare since must give it so it's as if he gave it already and I'm just grabbing it from there the they come in there and they take your stuff here. The king comes and takes your stuff. So think about it. He takes all your fruit before he gave trumus. Do you have to pay for the trum? Do you have to give again trumus to the to the he took it all? And the answer is depends. If you owed money to the king, so you just paid him. So, so you owe the trumus. You took the trumus and you paid him with the trumus. But if he capped it from you without permission, then no. Then you're right. Then you don't have to pay. Okay. So, so it depends. He came without any without questions and he grabs your fruit. If you owe him money, then your to take why? Because you just used 10% of your fruit to pay the king. That 10% was supposed to if they just came in there without any you didn't owe any money they just decided to take on their own to help themselves. You see, you see that to take after it was already consumed that you just said it's after it's consumed, I don't have to pay. >> What's the 10% of post the king taking it or after >> what was left over with? >> No, no. Let's say let's say he had 100 apples and the king took 100 apples. Out of the 100 apples, 10 of them weren't yours. You're supposed to give two to the 10. So you just paid a debt with 10 apples that are not yours. So pay the 10 apples. So let's see something else. >> Yeah, exactly. He didn't leave anything says says Rashi what's so very important again the doesn't the is answering the doesn't have the right to come and dine can't come over and say hey give me 10 apples it's not yours just me as a as aid I'm to give them so there's no proof that that a has the right to to sue for me to give like a regular there's I definitely have you benefited you benefited so you have to you have to give my [snorts] five lines down says listen I need the whole give me the whole intestine everything inside one of the parts of the stomach is is the ka which you have to give the coin anyway he takes full price takes full price in the coin why because you see the coin agreed he was agreeable to to take it as is but what if now if the client said I want 5 pounds of meat and in the five pounds of meat there's a little bit of stomach like one of the pounds is stomach and he gets it anyway. So he must give it to the and he takes off. Now the question is on these words. What do you mean? Why does he have to give it to the I don't want to give it to the we said it's you don't have to give anything and what if you didn't give it to the he can't sue you. It's like it's like damaging. It's like consuming the these items and you don't have to give it to the but it's right in front of you. It's there. The stomach is still there. You didn't consume it yet. And the question is what to do with the stomach. So you give it to him. If you ate the stomach so he can't come and take it from you. He can't make you pay for it. But it's right in front of you and and and you're selling it to him. So you have you must take off money for it. Rashi says on the spot I don't understand there's really 15. Okay. So we're going to go flying through this. There's nine different gifts that the gets trauma the 2% of you have a pile of 100 you have to give him 2%. Trumaser and after the ley gets is 10% the levy gives 10% of that which is another 1% that you give to the total of 3%. We know women the you make a certain amount of dough you have to give a little bit to the [clears throat] it's like regular truma it has the first shearing of a sheep of the wool you have to give to the oh the name of our you have to give him the gifts so this is interesting what's the is when you buy something from Yeah, you buy real you buy fruit from an amarat. We're not sure if you took chum reset. Usually 95% of the time 99% they give truma. Why did they give truma? Because it's not a big deal. It's 2% they don't care. The 10% is where it hurts. And that's why we have to be concerned. Maybe they didn't give. But we're not talking about the 10% that goes to the ley. Imagine that the the Amar didn't give the 10% to the ley. What's the problem for the C in that 10% is the the 1% the total of the 1% the 10% of the 10% didn't go to the K. What is that called? Trumas messer. We're concerned about the trumas micer in this produce that you just bought from a amaritz. The trumas micer is what you for this sugia. This is what you have to give. This is what you have to give the ley also the m is on a lower level. The trumus that belongs to the kaya the 1% of the total produce because all the raan that's a gift you take 1% you give it to the 10% of the 10%. And the first fruit that come off the tree of the you bring up and you give it to the this is [clears throat] if somebody stole from a that doesn't have offspring he doesn't have and he lied and he swore falsely that he didn't steal and then he then the g dies and then he you know they caught him or he decided to pay up who does he pay who does he pay to he doesn't have any give it to the so what does it mean it's what's the here? What does it mean? It's their belonging. Isn't this against what we said that you could go after somebody in it's you could sue him? It's for a different Why does it say that? It addresses the question. Why does it say it's his belonging? Oh, it's his 100%. Sometimes it's not his. Sometimes you can't do c you eat it. You consume it. Like like your like your m you get you get to eat it. You can't do much with it. No. You could buy slaves and and real estate. You could even buy a horse with it. And you could pay off debt. So you pay the she could come and demand that that fruit. But save her. A lot of people ask why do you have to say if he could buy if if he could buy a horse with it so he could buy all sorts of answers was a ley a bad guy he used to grab now why in the world are you taking it belongs to the come to listen to these words that's these are the words that we're going to be addressing. It's avah. Not only do we not take from him when he an animal, we don't take he should be happy we don't take from him. But not only that, he goes ahead and he takes he grabs heaps he grabs the why don't we take from a ley? Why? So the question is like this. Let's look at the say unfortunately from the nation. The nation has to give the question is who's this? What's the Israel is for sure? And the big question is where does the ley fit? He's not a he's not Israel. Where is he? If he's um if he's from the nation, he's a common folk. So he has to give. If he's not um he doesn't give. So what's what happened there? Why does Raf say, "Oh, you should be happy we didn't take from him." Either you take from him or you don't take from him. It's there's no should be happy. If the Tyra says we don't take from him, so there's nothing to say we should be happy. The said you don't take from you don't take what you be happy. And if the says he should give, so why why don't why doesn't he give? Why are we so happy that he didn't give? He should give. I don't understand. If they are regular Israel, they're part of the nation, then take it from them. Make them make make it make them give and if they're not part of the nation but the said they don't have to give. What's the problem? says the and this is how we're going to leave off the whole at the end wasn't sure. So since Ra wasn't sure if they considered if they have to give so he didn't take it from them and nobody could >> yeah it's not even it's like it's like because I don't know if I'm finished that's it was saying this over so now we're going we have to fly through this it's easy we're doing 432 and once we talk about the four then The three are included in the four and the two are included in the three. In other words, when it comes to grapes, the poor get four things out of the grapes. Here we have every single thing here. I think parrot. What's parrot? Boom. If a couple grapes fall down onto the ground, you're not allowed to pick them up. You leave it for the poor. What's these are really weak grapes. Here's a nice grape that has shoulders. The Gmor calls it cot if it has the whole guys on the right are Leave them on the those are not grapes that we typically pick. Leave them on the vine. Let the let the take it. Now this is the one that doesn't apply to doesn't have other other things that grow don't have this that here a little it's only for a grape that you can say. Therefore, the other ones are going to have three or two. Grapes have four. You You forgot. Here we go. Kobe felt bad that uh [music] he did this in the middle of the night. Okay. So you left grapes over there. So you let them you let it stay there. Very nice. Okay. And pa is in the corner. You leave a little bit of grape in the corner. Beautiful. Kobe. Great job. He was worried that it wasn't so great cuz he did the middle of the night. Perfect. >> Great job. [laughter] >> Who said it first now? Now it comes. [laughter] Oh, >> stop. >> He said it. He said So this is this this would be leaving that little corner. Same thing. You forgot some. Sorry. Two only has three. Where's >> when it's still connected? Yeah. I I don't know. He said what? What are you talking about? >> Bundles. >> Bundles here. It's not connected here. [clears throat] Is not connected. It's bundles. Two bundles. One bundle. We had also. So fine. When it comes to the tree, you only have two things says the owner cannot decide. Oh, I have a who lives in my building. I want him to take it. No, you don't decide. Whoever comes takes it. And if a very poor person has a field and he must give these matas, he can't say, "Well, I'm on myself. Let me take for myself." When you have of you don't pay yourself, you give it to somebody else. So, you see, we're m we're going through all this stuff. It's incredible. So those who just started today a lot of one day once again on years three and six of you have to give 10% to the poor that you give out in your house there the owner just like checks you decide what duck you want to give to and even a poor person must give 10% % of what of his produce to another poor person and the rest of the mat. So this is a very interesting such as going to address this word such as what you such as you cannot take it out doesn't have to give another k. But when a shacks an animal he does not give it to another and the big rias from these words not unfortunately but the way the gumar works is we are going to go and explain the entire bright word for word very very short and easy and I'm going to do it fastem but the is from these words that a ley does not have to give to another ley but that he has to give to another he doesn't give to he doesn't give toy but he gives H what's the question? Why does he have to give it to >> or better? It's um you see you see that he's part of the that he has to give. Now we're going to go through this quickly. What are the four the gifts that you give from grapes? The only mitzvah in the world I believe that you can't have kavana before end but maybe not because the mitzvah really is to give to make sure that the gets it afterwards that you don't prevent it. The fact that you forgot it that's great but the mitzvah occurs afterwards. Okay. Here. These are the grapes on the on the vine. Means the ones that fall down. And what does that mean? What you forgot behind, leave behind. How do you know you have to leave a little corner of the vineyard? We learn from grapes. It says by the grave, huh? Oh, olives. Yes. I I was thinking olives. I said grapes. Don't take its glory. In other words, you have to leave. You can't take all its glory. Can't take all its defer now. So, we just did grapes. Now, we're going to do and we're going to move, right? Great. What did the two of the tree we just had by by the olives? Don't leave it. Don't you have to leave some of its glory behind you? You forgot it. You don't you have no say to what person it goes to. So it says you have to leave it for them. It's none of your business who goes to we force a poor person to give in other words and he cannot for himself. That's how we read it. Lonnie they go together. The oni cannot take it that must give from the matonics and the on years three and six that he gives 10% to the poor. He can decide which poor person gets it. Why is it all of a sudden there over there it says giving you have the right to give whoever you want. So we take the 10% on three and six years three and six and we take it forcefully from from the poor the we already established that a poor person has to give. So, you have to give your own. And here comes the proof. Here's the key word. What's the other gifts of such as what does it mean? such such as it should say if I were to write this I would write what the word doesn't make so much sense and we're going to explain that word does not have to give another doesn't have to give to another so the refers from but it seems like that ley does have to give to the and you see from here that he's considered he's considered a nation he's considered like Israel where he has to give I'll make says no no no it's like but it's not we're not referring to referring to the 10% that the lady has to give [snorts] that we don't we don't uh we take it out of him we we take the 10% away from him. >> It goes That's the next question. It goes to him. Why do we take it away from him? But before we get to that, what what does it even say here? I don't understand. It says like No, it's not. It's It's like it's not. So if I were to write it, I would write why am I saying three words instead of two words such as but I really meant to say in two words. It doesn't make sense for the to do something like that. So addresses this and he says beautiful said I want to tell you that not I want to say no and yes I want to say no and yes to my so what do I do I say like but it's not and therefore I know it's my just as a and this this works in all of we have to understand this that in the time of the gimar actually when You do zikru and you know what I'm talking about like certain things in your brain makes sense. You're you'reing over stuff and you're saying like funny words or half words but in your brain you know exactly what what's going on. Yeah. Say uh tumor blew up. So the whole boom you know exactly it's in the stomach out of stomach. You know what it is. So that's how they used to operate. They would say a word can go this you know it means my keep on going. You're conjuring everything well >> and all of a sudden and they're killing people. You have the show. Imagine you come out of the conservation. What happened? Where you're going to start asking a 18-year-old that that that barely survived his life over there and he lost his whole family and all are dead and now what? And all of a sudden you have where and this and this doesn't make sense and doesn't make sense to you. It doesn't make sense to you, but it made sense to them that they had a sim. They had this how they used to operate. You have to that works everywhere. Well, ask the question. What do you mean he has to give his 10% to the mic? You everybody knows that the 10% goes to the ley says this is something that maybe you didn't know. Yes. goes to ley the also has a right to the 10% of the ley he's also it's the same he's he's from the okay he has the right to it you never said take it away from the ley he said a ley can get it or a can get it he didn't say the ley has to give it to the in he did say it the time and place here In the seventh year of King Arash Shakda's rule, some 80 years after the declaration of Kurish, Ezra Cipher received permission from the king to go from Bavalar to Sro together with all who wish to join him [music] gathered their returns at Nahar a the didn't show up. Since the Livian did not go up, Ezra Pino winds out. >> There's nothing like Galoo. It's wonderful here. >> We're not going. By order of Ezra Hassofram, since the Levahims did not come up to Israel, their Micer privileges be penalized. >> Penalized meaning what? Wait, this mean we don't receive Micer at all or that it will now be shared with the Kohanas? >> There's a dispute in the Gamura. >> The kids are the buzz of the casino. >> Wait for us. We're coming too. HEY, COME BACK. PLEASE COME BACK. So they lost their and so if they lost their give it to the but wait a minute he never said he says that you don't give them but you don't take it from them. So what does it mean that we take it from them? It's like we're doing something else. Now my the ley must give the cayenne the first hearing. He doesn't say when it comes to the it goes to him. Even at that we know that a ley must give the the first hearings any one of the gifts that has inheriting you take it out of the ley must give it if it doesn't have like the these three you see over here that is you see that they're not considered. If a was considered, then you take it out of him. But he's not. He's better than is it says it's not referring to no from here. We're not referring to like this whole parrot. We're talking about something else that we take out of I'm sorry we don't take away from the ley one after the yeah they they don't get it but we don't take it out of them it says if for a or for a nonjew you don't have to give them we know gifts doesn't have to but you can infer why It said it seems like that for a laby you do have to give gifts that he he's part of he has to give gifts. No, it's a good you inferred well but don't do the whole inferation business. Yeah. If he's doing it for then you don't give but you doing for Yeah. But what happened to the ley? So, so, so talk about that you don't have to give matus. Why is not mentioned at all? It's against says I don't know what to do with the ley. Should I take from him? Not take from a ley has to give gifts small piece over here and then we're done. So, let me just show you this. First of all, this is I forgot that Yoshi did this once in a different so I did this. But this is 10 times better. So we're talking about a person who has whose tummy that goes into mdash and performs in the mdash when he is. So oniper we bring two things called a bull pariper and the right the the counterpart of the one we throw off the mountain. They come to of doing when you are. So what's if you perform that over there? If you perform when you what does it mean in who? What means they get a check this out. is only the what happened to they get the word. So you see that this mand holds that is not part of he's not part of so he doesn't have to give is but there's another says no together with is talking about something else so they they hold that holds that is so we can read this fast now could be maybe the other but no good So right over here you see like that maybe might not be a but not but says so it's the slaves that have misses like a woman includes a says says so why does just say I hold like this says that or is not decide so he did he didn't know and let's just do this one line is suffic like I don't know if a or not so I can't take it out of him and is that if you steal from the and you eat the mat yourself you don't have to pay him Have a wonderful day. [music and singing] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.