CHAZARAH - Chullin Daf 137 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

Good morning. We're holding like two, four, six, eight lines from the bottom. We'll go back two lines. So, we're going to have here the typical classic. We have racial. Where do we learn that a traa does not work by razer messer going to learn check this out his miser that's the thing we're trying to learn that what that if the animal has a hole in its heart or a hole in the lung one of the many tra that we learned in this you don't take you don't take uh the shearing You don't take the raz and in fact is similar to in seven different ways. Oh my foy. There's no tra. And how do you know that by me? You don't you don't um you you don't do micer when you don't put an animal to in a pen and let him walk out the door. If he's a he has to be able to walk on his own feet, on his own power. And sometimes traas don't have that ability. Now some do but once some don't. So then that whole that whole category of is not part of says okay that's great you're learning from why don't we do this why don't we learn the middle from something called and in fact there's more reasons to compare than to race against than rather to it's 8 versus 7 typical says says you you bring you give if your first born has a you give it to the maybe you should learn from that you do give when it's a says it makes more sense to learn from so we go slowly over here must be a but when it comes to messer and racial it could be even So messer makes more sense is is even on a non-coser animal such as a donkey but micer and only kosher animals bim messer is many you need 10 we said you need according to you need five bkar is even a singular so it's not so similar to bkarim only bkar is when it's born a human being can be a bkar But a human being you don't do raz on a human being. You don't do raz on you don't do of put 10 little kids in a pen have them crawl out the penotar is something special. It's a firstborn only this only a certain type of animal but guys it's all animals all all sheep there's no special not special same thing with micer you put them all into the pen which one of these things was before which one of these was before where where was before matraim Now if you had a look at the list on the right look at the list on the right and if you know this please don't say the answer if only if you don't know it which one of these things are important the the most important the most important that I'm going to say oh this is the top top reason why raises I guess is similar to what's the top top reason number six that's what the says number six pant this that we just said the second it's pant says let's learn against the center thing from the left one and say that when it's a so against when it's a why there's more things we're on the bottom line if there's an orphan you do if it's an orphan you do but you don't do micer if it's an orphan and this is the same idea there's no miser when you purchased it there's no mer when it's there's no micer if somebody gave it to you as a gift I would actually think that is almost the same thing no is not there's no only when there's a mdish what do you do to the animal you bring it to the mdash ken the there's no mister that goes to but goes to the kayen top of Big is born against you have to create it later. You cannot sell me. So mayo race against is more similar to why don't I compare race against says and and eight beat seven if I'm going to do what what what it compares more compares more to and not to seven versus 8. So let's say that you give when it's you don't do when it's a let's say is similar to because it's more it's more 8 versus seven says guess what but on the on the right side the list of seven is something called and that is the most important thing here that what learn out that applies to every single everybody's included is included. Everybody's included. So, not the one of the Okay. The shearing of the wool is only by sheep and not by any other animal, not even a goat. We learn it says so the word gaze and sheep go together warms up with the with the wool of a sheep it's only sheep's going to ask so what I'm going to do what am I going to do with this I don't need it anymore she learned from abar what applies also to bulls firstborn bull you have to givear so maybe giza shearing of the wool or whatever you want to call it the coat of a of a bull of a cow maybe should also ink applies to to cattle so the giza should also apply to cattle you shouldn't work your carbon if it's a if it's a if it's a bull and you shouldn't shear the wall. So that's the famous you know how to do you know how to shear the wool if they have how do you know that shearing the coat of a of cattle is also awesome and working a sheep is also awesome you think oh don't shear the wool but I'm allowed to ride it no you're not allowed to do anything you're not allowed to work it either this is it connects So finally says how do I know that that that the wool or the shearings of a of cattle is not included in this mitzv it should be something that he wears as a begged no one ever makes clothing from from cattle wool or whatever it's called. It's always from a sheep but what do you make from a from cattle? You make sacks. Okay, that's not what we're talking about. So, how do you make cashmere? The famous Kashmir. You ever had Kashmir suit? Huh? >> From goats. From goats. Oh. So, a goat has two two types of hair. The outer one is more coarse. The inner one is what they make Kashmir out. It's very expensive. And you pluck it with your hand. of you have to shear it with a machine with a with a scissors not by hand. Makes an Now we're going to go into a little bit of a who says you have to do it in a certain way. Yes, you have to do it in a certain way. Who said you have to do if the says giza with a with a maybe the is just saying a practical thing this is this is the other but if you want to do it by hand you can do it by hand. Who says we do by hand for for this? But it can't be. Why? You're right. on a sheep if you pulled it out with your hand you'd be but on a goat that that's the way to do it then you would be and I'll prove it to you from fruit from the of so says that's different because over there it says razor and this is not a razor it's different over talking about maybe it does have to do with it a little bit yeah I hear what you're saying is to to do the only thing we use for the and the I think is is is wool is wool from a sheep not from a goat. The only thing that you're on is from a sheep and not from a goat. So that's it. Goats out. Oh, >> so if I'm learning from the has to be something for the Bikdash and goats are out. So then what I need Giza Giza what am I going to do with Giza Giza it's extra now I was learning goats out from Giza Giza and now Giza Giza is extra when you have harder coarser wool you don't have to give that's mean something that you warm yourself up for oh and I got to tell you this how one person is and other We have the we know about Mlandi how was Mashbia hundreds of people to learn on a plane but guess what Klein was on dozen I heard from dozens of people already that they learn all seven chabas because they heard that Klein does it you say over something you say it's a little guy yeah I'm asking it's a little guy to talk about it but if it's other people it's check it out does all seven every single because he was inspired by it's a beautiful thing so this is What happens if you pluck the wool off a sheep with your hand? On the one hand, it says if you wash off your sheep, you bathe them and a bunch of their wool comes out in your hand potter. On the flip side, it says potter that for sure. But everybody's masking that there's no race against for goat. But this one, you wash them with your hand. You plucked it with your hand. So what do we do? Like this is the who says that when you do with your by hand instead of with a a shearing tool your potter when it says that when you when you uh reap your your wheat and two of them fall on the ground, you leave it there. But if you pulled it out of the ground with your hand, then that's not considered. You don't have to leave it there for the poor. The mitzvah is only when you use uh a how do you say in English? So is basically repeating the same words. In fact, the whole entire sentence is one person called. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The reason why your potter when you do it with your hand is because means when you reap it with a tool. So how do you how do you reap onions? Let's say you had an onion a field of onions. How do you take them out of the ground? By hand. Just pull it out. Oh, so if you don't use a tool by an onion, then >> you're you're for if you use if you use that's the way to do it. If it's the way that's what we said before. If the if it's the way to pluck it with your hand, then you are so by a goat. It's the weight to pluck it with your hand. Then you that if you do with a How do you know if you pull out something with the roots like when it comes to lentils or whatever added word if that's the way to do it then you you don't pull it out with the roots you pull it out from the ground. Full how do you say full in in English? >> Beans. >> Beans. Those beans that are very dangerous. They have the B26 C. What is it called? >> Beans. >> Oh, lava beans. >> Lava beans. Very good. >> Fava. Fav. Fav bean. That's that makes more sense. Yeah. Fava. Fine. So, there's a few extra words that tell you that if you do it, this is the way to to to reap it. So this is a whole but we're taking out the most simplest thing. Check this out. When it comes to vegetables on why cucumbers, tomatoes, these are things that don't last. You put a few days on on outside of a refrigerator, what happens? They they they spoil. So you're not pa you have a whole field of of tomatoes of peppers different from what's one vegetable that lasts for a very long time months upon months it's in everybody's kitchen >> onions so onions because it has one of the you need it there's a few things it has to be you have to put it you be able to put it into a so onions so take a look at this picture just the picture makes it so much easier You have peppers that you potter from pa and you have onions that you and pa peppers that you potter onions that you from the onions you have to do pa what is pa you have to leave a corner of of the row how many corners are you going to leave in this picture two or one >> cuz between the two rows you have something that's part does it make a heftic and you have another field and by the way he did it perfectly it has to be each row has to have three onions width >> so that's Why three rows of onions I don't want to call it a row cuz this is a row but anyway I don't want to what I'm saying so it's whether or not it's one or two with after all that the simplest just came out do onions do you do pay on onions yes according to everybody do pay on onion the question is one row or two rows but pay an onion but how do you reap an onion with your hand so you see that if the d is to reap with your hand. You don't need a machine for funions even though you do with your hand says inside we learned the same thing you have these rows of onions that are in between the vegetables and the vegetables from oh and that's the whole from onions you have to do two rows whoever ever guess two is wrong. One is enough for all them. Fine. How many sheep do you need in order? If you have one sheep that gives off 3.2 kilo of wool, you don't you don't do you need a minimum of sheep. Bish say two say five. Sorry they have a that two is is considered why do go with the from that you need five. So what happened in fascinating story the famous story of Noal Carmeal was not such a nice guy and he was shearing his sheep and he heard that he's sharing all the sheep very wealthy man and sent to him he says I I need food for my soldiers so he sent back a very nasty message who are you nobody blah blah blah no way heard it and he said he's a malus and he deserves to die. Before David had a chance to go there, one of the servants goes to Aig, who's Neville's wife, and tells Aig, you know, your husband is off his racker. These these soldiers, they're protecting us at night from this and from this from all the thieves. Why would you treat them like that? He asked for food. Give him some food. They're dangerous. Now, they're going to come now. They're not they're not going to help us. It makes no sense what you did. M doesn't make sense. She says, "You're 100% right." And the the Navi says she was a fast toyer and extremely smart. She took the five sheep. These are the five sheep and she made food and the whole thing and she gave it as a gift and she's walking towards David and the soldiers. And who does she bump into on the way and the soldiers and like what's going on? He says my husband his name is Nville. He's that Kishmo. He's a terrible guy and he messed up and he's a this and that and the whole thing and she says to him and at the end she says and you shall remember me remember if he ever goes fif. So it says in the novi that when novel found out what his wife did he got a heart attack boom he got a heart attack and he lasted for 10 days and then he died. What are those 10 days? Today started today. This story is today. The story happened today. Kiss from Hashem. Chuva. He had the opportunity to live and to do chuva. He could have done chuva. So, and at the end actually ended up marrying her. She was an a very very of a woman from the big ones says says Omar it says in the over there are made that two mitzvah are created from this wall what are the two mitzvah only when you have five do you get to the two mitzvah of and gifts There's other gifts that you there's other things you can do with a sheep such as but that doesn't make sense. You don't need five. The P over there talks about five is also with a singular one. You don't need five. If you have one animal, you shift one. You don't have to give the the forle and the the tongue to the to the then in the beginning there's nothing nothing but after you have the full amount then they they create the mitzvah before you don't have anything now you do so in the we had say you need two sheep for they still say five says four he brings a from the He still was bringing Bish both bringing from Na'vi. He's bringing from the Tyra what's we see four four and five dollar by by somebody that steals he steals he steals a sheep versus she pays less only four because he had the baz five if he stole cattle he has to pay four times the amount but you see that the calls four sobi says if even if still brought a from the which they didn't they brought from and even if the later on later generation he brought from what's kabala not what we think you know but rather says listen to this why is thera called tora it's the rules thera Fine for generation. That's why it's called Kabala. Noi says Rashi is Kabala. That's Kabala. Not not Kabala. What we know Kabala but Kabala of why? Why is it called? They received it through each one was for the time, for the place, for the generation. Okay. But I would go with even if he brought a positive from Na'vi and Bam brought from the Tory but what should I do it's even better he saysk certainly different are weaker they brought from he brought a from the says so understood why why is right saying is right because he's the third opinion Say two. I still say five. I'm coming. I'm going to make him sorry. In between two and five is what? Three or four? Four. No, that doesn't work. Why? It only works. Rashi brings an example where argued and they said it's it's 100% whether it's not says it's 100% whether it's not comes and he takes a little bit from here and a little bit from here and he says is like this is like that but he took from both he made a compromise That's a real compromise. You take 50% of 50% of you put in the middle compromise. But over here, four is nobody spoke about four. They spoke about two and five. Nobody spoke about four. So you're coming with a new aita. We don't want to hear about new generations later. You can't you can't mix in. That's not considered in that situation. It's not literally. In certain situations, the third opinion doesn't count. got it. He didn't he didn't make it up. He didn't make he got it from from generation to generation. As we're going to see even in this I got it all the way at the end where says the same thing. I didn't make this up. My my says over there I have a mess. I got it from my got from this comes all the way from the How much you need? You need a a month and a half. We said it's 425. Um, no, but at the end of the month and a half per animal, 425 g per animal* 5 equals 3.2 kilo. Then there's a Mishna even a mashu. What's a mashu? So the does this many times mash is not literally mashu. We had it also I think in this that according to one it's a needle. The other one is like much larger but it's not it's a little bit more than a mashup 425 gram not 3.2 2 kilo which is 425 g* 5 it's 425 total 425 is that the the 425 came from five different animals 85 grams per animal then you have 425 then you now remember this one I'll tell you what to remember when not 60 cell worth let's call it sake thousand grams cuz each cell has 17 grams So times 60 1,000 g and you give 160th. What's 160th of this? 17 g not 85 g. 75 17 g. What's going on here? Important to understand this. 12 says no matter what you always give five to the kayan even in the most extreme case where you only got a total of six sellah you give five to the kay I don't care you owner you remain with one that's your problem the client always gets five what if you get five million salas gets five no matter what the fli for the better for the worse f fly so remember this also what does say six. We're going to see says another number and the is going to say that one is his and one is him. That's all the way in the bottom. But remember the six. No, it's literal means. If you got three hairs worth of of wool, a little tiny piece the size of a needle, you give you give to the How much you give? That mish fits in with who? Flat fee. What is going to say? Fat flee. Fat fle flat fee of five here. That's our go doesn't mention anything how much you have to give. So he's good. Everybody says five. And the mission says five. It's perfect. Says you give 160th out of 60. You should give a whole cell. A cell is only 17 g, not the the 85 gram that we're talking about. Says there's no, right? Says whatever says, "Wait a minute. You said doesn't mention anything about giving, but it's also a problem. Rich is you get 60 slime which is about 1,000 g and you get so 1 160th is 17 g but that's a lot less 17 g is a lot less than the 85 g that we we discussed no no the what we're talking about is two different things yes the The shear is 160th just why? So why do we say five? He wants to divide his his shearings. He has a lot. He has a factory. So he wants to give a bunch of kayan, a bunch of stuff. How much should you give? You want to give nicely. That's the shear of five slime. Of course you give even less than five slime. You give even 17 g, not 85 g. But if you have a lot of koanim, you should give each one 85 grams. That's that that's what it's saying over here. Ravishimish the the is 160th. Truma you should give 160th. You should give 160th. Now Simon and Gil don't even try to answer. You don't try to answer. What's the problem with the statement? The problem with the statement is that we say this every single day. A lot of us say it every day. Some of us don't. But everybody knows this Mishna inside out. And we It's the first words in the Mishna. The problem is we say it since we're 3 years old. So a lot of times we have no idea what we're saying. But slow down a second. There's no even if you have less than a certain amount, you give. What's pay? What's pay? We just said pay. The corner of the field. There's no shear. One stalk. A thousand sts. No. So what are you telling me? Pay true. Or not. Everybody knows if you watch the a lot. How much you give a truma? Two out of 100, which is one which is debony. But what's where do you get 160th? You want to give nicely one out of 40 says you're right. But the rice are the ones that said you should give 140. The rice is 40. Everybody should ask this question. Oh, even one little thing says when it comes to the said that when you what's the you only on three fruits from the olives, grapes and wheat everything else that we give Truma today on on cucumbers and that's all the ra. So the when the three things is one of 40 we'll stop right over here. Have a wonderful day. >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor atmop.com.