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Christian Argues With Rabbi Singer on Who Wrote Revelation—Gets Shut Down!

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There there are no manuscripts of the book of Revelation, Hebrew. There are none of those things. I mean, I'm talking from the ancient world. Why would you even suggest that? I don't understand why. >> Uh John the Apostle, son of Zebedee, brother of James, called the son of thunder. And James and John were uh Jesus's brothers. >> What's your source that the book of Revelation was written in Hebrew? >> Uh Michael RDE. Okay. Uh Kevin from Florida, you are live on the air. Go ahead with your question. >> Okay. Um well uh Revelation uh was originally written in uh Hebrew and uh the revelation of Yeshua. And you are correct. It was you know written in the 90 AD era by Johannan. And um I was just curious as you talking about, you know, the Hebrew Bible. Why wouldn't you consider Revelation being part of the Hebrew Bible? >> What's your source that the book of Revelation was written in Hebrew? >> Uh Michael RDE, >> who cares? What is your evidence that the book of Revel I'm asking you what I'm not asking you what somebody else said. I'm asking you what is the evidence. The book of Revelation was originally written in Greek. That's why he's using um alpha omega. But what's the evidence? Go ahead. >> Hang on. So Johannan wrote the book of John in the Gospels in Hebrew and then he wrote Revelation in Greek. That doesn't make sense. >> Uh could you explain this? So a man named John wrote the book of Revelation. Where's Johan? >> Who's your you talking about the author of the book of John? like the fourth gospel. >> Is that what you mean? I Okay, you're saying that the same person who wrote the fourth gospel is also the author of the book of Revelation. I just want to There's not a catch. Just want to know what you're saying. >> Yes. I don't and I I want to also say I don't believe in replacement theology. >> Let's forget that. It's not a part of the Let's just stay focused here. >> Yes. What is your evidence that John wrote the book of John? Like what what's your basis for that? >> Uh well uh Michael RDE uh from Arude Awakening. Um it's uh he he's uh >> but I'm asking you textual evidence, >> sir. >> Yeah, I got it. What's your textual evidence? I'm not asking you about what another Christian said. >> What is evidence? >> Pull my Bible out. All right. >> Uh, yes. The Apostle John was the book uh author of Revelation. So, you want me to know that? >> I'm asking how you know that. >> Uh, it's uh just >> what my study Bible says. >> Do you understand? You're making fantastic claims and you have I I for I'm sure you're a nice man and I'm sure you're you're pro-Israel and certainly I don't mean this personally, but you're making fantastic claims and I just ask you what's support. You're telling me there's a person that you enjoy watching and that person said so. And what I would do is I'd encourage you to go back to the sources and look for sources. There there are no manuscripts of the book of Revelation, Hebrew. Um there are none of those things. I mean, I'm talking from the ancient world. Why would you even suggest that? I don't understand why that. >> Uh John the Apostle, son of Zebedee, brother of James, called the son of thunder. And James and John were uh Jesus's brothers. And I I believe I believe they were Jesus's brothers, which Jesus name was Yeshua, of course. uh brothers as in like uh um the man that Mary uh w Joseph the man that Mary was with quote unquote >> I believe they were his sons already >> and uh >> you you're mixing up people here and people get confused about this I I just wonder yeah you are John would be the son of Zebedee it would be someone different >> let me just say this to you I say just always go back to the original sources. Don't believe anything I say. And thank you for your question. Don't believe anything anybody else says, but rather if you see somebody making a claim, just like for me, if you're watching me, just anything I say, what do I always tell my viewers? Look it up for yourself. But if you like me, don't let that get in the way. Don't like me. Like, forget that. Just look it up for yourself. No matter which side you're on, look up everything I'm saying. That the book of Revelation was originally written in Hebrew. That's just silly. That just complete nonsense. Now, was the do we know the name of the book of Revelation? Well, the author claims to be John from Potmos, and I'm going to be very charitable and just say I take his word for his name was John, which would have been a popular name at the time, but that doesn't extend anywhere. That does not mean he's the author of the fourth gospel. And incidentally, a great many, many, many church fathers agree with me. a great many I mean there's a reason why Luther was um suspected the book of revelation for not being as important or significant as authoritative as other books in the Christian Bible and he sort of kind of appendixed it. This is a very questionable book but to say it was originally written in Hebrew of course not. Now, was the author of the book of Revelation very aware of texts in Tanakh? For sure he was. He had it in no doubt in front of him because he was quoting it up and down. He's but he's quoting it in Greek. He's not quoting it in Hebrew. But there are many um there's imagery in Tanakh particularly in Zechariah and so on that he is using in order to advance a christologology that doesn't mean he wrote it in Hebrew doesn't mean any there's no it doesn't there's no reason to believe any of these things none at all that the author of the fourth gospel was written by John who is would not have been a brother or soner of Jesus is by Christ. You're making a mistake on this. That we don't know. That's a that's a Christian Roman Catholic tradition that John is the author of the fourth gospel. Christians came to be persuaded by that. And I don't believe anyone prior to Erynaeus who was the archbishop of Leyon, Roman Catholic right down the line. Okay? I mean there's Catholic there's a Vatican religion I don't think anyone prior to um to Irenaeus that well I'm dating place the date 180 there I don't think anybody assigned the fourth gospel to John the son of Zebedee prior to him I'm not aware of one um he now it's not that the book of John didn't exist prior to Irene it definitely did because it was quoted by people before him by the antonyian church fathers of course they knew about John and and Papius talks so on but it's really second century stuff that John authored the book of John that it was any of this stuff was written in Hebrew that's com that's just nonsensical there's no reason to believe that and whoever is making those claims these are fatuous claims that are I don't know what to tell you it doesn't matter whatever whatever is saying but I I ask you not to read the pages in a Christian Bible that introduce the book of John for information about John you get yourself in a lot of trouble doing that just read the text um insert second century ideas about the authorship of books in the New Testament into the text itself. There's nowhere in the book of John that would there's nothing in the book of John that would indicate that John wrote it. And one could make the case that in fact the book of John conveys that it wasn't written by John. But we're not going to go that far. The book of Revelation was definitely not written in Hebrew. It was written in coin and Greek. and but the author was familiar with a text like Zachchariah that he quoted from. Thank you for your question. If you enjoyed this program, please like and subscribe. [singing and music] [music and singing] [music] >> [singing]