Christian Presses Rabbi Singer: Noah’s Ark Found? Church Idolatry? Temple Mount?

So in your mind, and again I'm not trying to to debate, I'm just trying to learn from you. In your mind, worshipping Jesus is idol worship? Is that is that your your where you would fall on that that question? >> The ark is 300 cubits long. Translate that into feet, it's roughly 500 feet, so it's like one and two thirds of a football field. The width of it would be 50 cubits, which is about 83 feet wide, and the depth of [music] it about 35 cubits, about 50 feet deep. What we find in Eastern Turkey, which is very striking, is that image is completely compatible what what we find in [music] the book of Genesis, strikingly similar. If Noah's ark is there, that's the kind of formation we'd look for. >> What is the significance [music] of the third temple? You know, where is the third temple? Just kind of break that down, that that the concept of the third temple and the Temple Mount, because all of a sudden it's becoming [music] a household conversation. I think most people don't know where the Temple Mount is, and they don't know a lot about the third temple circle. >> All right, the Temple Mount is not far from where I am right now. And the Bible says, and for our Christian friends, all our Christian friends believe that the book of Ezekiel is the word of God. We [music] are told explicitly in Ezekiel 37, just as an example, that that the rebuilding of the temple on the Temple Mount, Mount Moriah, will be the trigger that all the nations will know that I am Lord. Daniel 8:14 tells us that from the time the Greek Empire defeats the Persian Empire, my words, but that's what Daniel 8 is all about. To the time the Jews return will be 2,300 days. Stop at one point. When we find the term day at the end of Daniel, it means years. This is non-controversial. Why is not germane to the show? Days mean years here. So you're going to find the word days. So 2,300 years. The battle in which Alexander the Great defeated the Empire. One of the most critical battle battles in human history was the Battle [music] of Granicus. Key point is that we know exactly when that occurred. It was the late spring of 334 BCE. Run the numbers here. Remember, there's no year zero. So 334 BCE add to it 2,300 years, you are now in the late spring of 1967. Full stop. >> Well, folks, on today's show we have the pleasure and the opportunity opportunity to interview one of the most respected rabbis on the planet Earth. If you just Google search Tovia Singer or go to YouTube and look for Tovia Singer, Rabbi Tovia Singer, you will find that he is a prolific guest on many podcasts. He really knows uh the Old Testament and New Testament, which is interesting to me. As a Christian, this man knows uh he knows the Torah. This man knows so much and I'm excited to pick his brain. Rabbi Tovia Singer, welcome to the Thrive Time Show. How are you, sir? >> I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. >> So I have to ask you real quick. Coming up on my stack of stuff here, I've got a big uh stack of stuff I want to get into. There is this uh first International Congress of Noahides that will take place this November, specifically November 2nd through November 6th in Jerusalem. It'll take place in Israel at the Seven Arches Hotel on the Mount of Olives. Uh could you share with us about the importance or lack of importance of this uh first International Congress of Noahide, sir? >> Yeah, this would be something unimaginable years ago, but people from around the world accept upon themselves the universal laws that we find in the Bible, meaning in scripture, in the pre-synoptic text, meaning like the book of Genesis, the prohibition against murder, the prohibition against theft, the prohibition against sexual immorality, um causing suffering to an animal. So people are you may say these are rudimentary laws, but people are accepting these commandments because the God of Israel, the God who authored, who moved the pen of Moses, has commanded it. So there is a a worldwide movement of saying, you know what, these commandments that we find in the Bible in scripture are in fact we accept them because the God of Israel has commanded it. >> My daughter wanted me to ask you, where are the Noahide laws and how are they different from the the Ten Commandments? >> So the Noahide laws are found in the book of Genesis. For instance, your daughter definitely knows about Genesis chapter four. The first murderer, Cain, he's punished for his act. A thievery, violence, Genesis chapter six. The flood, Genesis six through eight. Why was there a flood? Because of robbery, because of violence, because of of men who are powerful committing violent acts against women, sexual immorality. Sodom destroyed in Genesis chapter 18 and 19. So these are all there in the Bible. I want the viewers to understand this point. The rabbis are not inventing any laws. This is all scriptural, but it is sort of like a shopping list. If I asked you to put a shopping list together of foods that are nutritious, that doesn't mean that if you're putting together the shopping list, you're inventing a banana, you're inventing water. No, they're there and that's all it is. So these are the lists that we would find explicitly in Genesis before the giving of the Torah at Mount Sinai. Now your your daughter asks an important question. The Ten Commandments do contain the commandment to keep the Sabbath holy. And there are, it's important for you to know this, there are some Christians that keep a seventh-day Sabbath, famously the Millenarian group Seventh-day Adventist. There are Christians like this who are would consider themselves pronomian, but there are many Christians who don't keep the seventh-day Sabbath. So that's what they would have. That would be the big issue in the Ten Commandments for most of our Christian friends. >> What is a a Noahide, sir? I think people know what someone is if they're a Christian. I think people know what it means for someone to be a Muslim. I think people know what it means to be a practicing Jew, or at least we think we know these things. What is it what does it mean to be a Noahide? >> Yeah, so this word you should be confused about because it's it's an anachronism. But it means someone who looks to Noah. The Bible tells us in Genesis chapter 6 that he was righteous. He kept these laws that we call Noahide laws. So let's think of it this way. A follower, a disciple of Noah. That's really all it means. It's an it's a term that's not frequently used, although now it's spreading around the world with I presumably millions of people who would regard themselves as Noahides. Noahide means somebody who believes in the God of Israel alone and believes that these commandments were given by God to the world, not just the children of Israel, as we do find in Ten Commandments in Exodus chapter 20 as an example. >> What are your thoughts on people that worship Jesus, or what is your what do the Noahide laws have to say or as it relates to those that worship Jesus? I want to again, you're one of the leading rabbi scholars on the planet. And so if you could make some make that clearer or explain what that means cuz there's somebody watching this show right now that worships Jesus and there's somebody out there that doesn't. Could you break down what the Noahide laws share about those that worship Jesus? >> Right. So our view on this point would be very similar to cuz you're a Protestant Christian. So let's pick a Protestant denomination that would agree with us on this view. Let's take biblical Unitarians as an example. So they would view it the way Jewish people would view it, and that is that Jesus or no person should be worshiped. And therefore worshiping someone something that's not God would be considered idolatry. So biblical Unitarians are on board with the Jews on this point. I think all Christians would agree if Jesus is not God, then it's very bad idea to worship him as God. So this is the area even though there are striking differences between us, this in the area of agreement. Christian Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the second person of the Triune Godhead that has a unique hypostatic entity and that is he's the Logos, which a father is not. And that's unique. So we would say that Trinitarian Christianity is incompatible with the Hebrew Bible which tells us that the glory of God does not lie because he's not a man. So we would agree with that passage in the Hebrew Bible. Trinitarian Christians have would have a difficult time explaining it. They have for our viewers who don't know this, Christians have tried to work this through with the Council of Nicaea, Constantinople, and subsequent councils. So this is a an issue that Christians have to work out. But for Jewish people, worshipping a man as God is very problematic. It would be idolatry. >> So in your mind, and again, I'm not trying to to debate, I'm just trying to learn from you, in your mind, worshipping Jesus is idol worship. Is that Is that your your where you would fall on that that question? >> Yes. I I think all Christians would agree, and this is the point, all Christians would agree in I believe that if Jesus is not God and you worship him as God, it would be idolatry. The argument really between our friends and ourselves is not whether worshipping someone that's not God as God is idolatry. The question is is Jesus God or not God? And there we go to the Hebrew Bible for an answer. >> I'm going to pull up a Google search real quick and I'm not trying to paint you into a corner or blindside you with anything. So we'll give the viewers a chance to to analyze what I'm going to present here. There's the first International Congress of the Noahides. You can Google that, folks, and there you will see this event taking place November 2nd and the 6th. Now I'm going to pull up another Google search. We're going to just type in Noah's Ark. So Noah's Ark is a news story that's probably the news story. The world's leading news story right now is that researchers are now It appears as though they are finding Noah's Ark. Uh, Yahoo News reports reports, burnt Noah's Ark remains found buried 30 feet underground. Newsweek reports, Noah's Ark hunters share video update from inside the mysterious structure. New York Post reports, drilling begins at Noah's Ark site. So it seems like the idea of Noah's Ark is becoming a household discussion all around the world. Uh, meanwhile, there is a discussion for the first International Congress of Noah Heights. So it seems as though Noah is becoming very relevant is becoming a very relevant topic of discussion for many people. What is your reaction to the recent research or findings from archaeologists and geologists that are now uh showing up with what appears to be irrefutable evidence that Noah's Ark did exist or does exist? >> Let me tease that all out. So Noah hide means someone who's a disciple of Noah. But what we're talking about here are the mountains in Eastern Turkey and it's a formation that was discovered actually back in 1948 uh by a shepherd and then the Turkish Air Force discovers it from aerial photographs in 1959. And this has been the subject of a lot of aggressive research and as you pointed out correctly, there are researchers now who are drilling down multiple holes to try to discover what they believe might be Noah's Ark. And the reason why there's reason to think they're onto something is that we're given the dimensions of Noah's Ark in scripture in the Bible. Let me give it to our viewers so they'll know what it is. It's um so it it's 300 cubits. The ark is 300 cubits long. Translate that into feet. It's roughly 500 feet. So it's like one and two thirds of a football field. The width of it would be 50 cubits, which is about 83 feet wide and the depth of it about 35 cubits, about 50 feet deep. What we find in Eastern Turkey, which is very striking, is that image is completely compatible what what we find in the book of Genesis. Strikingly similar. If Noah's Ark is there, that's the kind of formation we'd look for. A point for the viewers to understand about the natural world. So I'm a diver if this happens to be I love scuba diving. And then when you're looking at the seabed, what you would expect to find typically are formations that are non-descript, just lines that just are everywhere. Doesn't mean always, but typically when you see geometric lines, straight lines, geometric curve lines, typically we would then expect that to be some sort of man-made thing, a ship, a beam, and then that fell in the water. What is very striking here is these lines appear to be geometric curves. Now I want to be very clear to the viewers. Typically we would expect that. It does not mean that in the natural, whether it's on a mountain or whether it's under the sea, we would never find a geometric line that was naturally there. It could happen, but it's very unusual. And therefore people are right to look at this mountain mountainous area, which is again in Eastern Turkey. With your permission, I just want to expand this a little bit. One of the points that I think everyone is missing here and that is we would expect the Noah's Ark occurred roughly 4 and 1/2 thousand years ago. We would expect wood that's 4 and 1/2 thousand years ago to degrade. We do not have a smoking gun, meaning what we would want to find is actually the wood with the hinges put into clearly man-made. What is very striking, and I don't see people noticing this point, is that in up on a mountain there's plenty of oxygen up there where there we would expect to have organic material degrade over thousands of years. What is striking is in the underwater world where there's very little oxygen. Let's take the Black Sea. Just a of hundred of meters down there's so little oxygen that a ship would be preserved from the ancient world. There isn't has never been found to this day a shipwreck anywhere in the world that's older than 6,000 years old. So I don't know what we're going to find ultimately in the mounds of Eastern Turkey. This would be compatible with the mounds found in the book of Genesis, but I do want to orient our Jewish and Christian friends to think about what's under the water. In areas that have very little oxygen like the Black Sea, the the lack of oxygen in the depths of the Black Sea as an example would be compatible with a preservation of organic material like wood, and yet not one shipwreck older than 6,000 years old. That would be compatible with the scriptures. That would be compatible with the Hebrew Bible. >> Now I'm taking notes here and so that way our listeners can reference them later. Uh I believe you said that the Noah's Ark would be approximately 500 ft long, 83 ft wide. And how many feet deep, sir? >> Let's say about 50 ft, 35 cubits. >> Okay, and 50 ft deep. And one of the things I love about your broadcasts is you bring the facts. You're a guy that knows the facts, the figures. It it's uh pretty pretty awesome your level of research. So let's continue. Now what's happening is that there's this discussion about the third temple that's becoming um very very um again a household discussion. It seems like everybody in the world right now is discussing Noah's Ark. And now it doesn't really matter whether you're Catholic, whether you're Jewish, whether you're Muslim, whether you're Christian. It seems as though the whole world is now discussing the third temple or the soon appearance of the third temple or uh maybe Mount Moriah or the Temple Mount. But I think a lot of us don't really understand that part of the world. So could you share with us, sir, what are the the most urgent Temple Mount updates that you believe our listeners need to know? And maybe and again I'll give you a lot of space here, what is the significance of the third temple? You know, where is the third temple? Just kind of break that down, that the concept of the third temple and the Temple Mount, because all of a sudden it's becoming a household conversation. And I think most people don't know where the Temple Mount is, they don't know a lot about the third temple, sir. >> All right, the Temple Mount is not far from where I am right now. And the Bible says, and for our Christian friends, all our Christian friends believe that the book of Ezekiel is the word of God, we are told explicitly in Ezekiel 37, just as an example, that that the rebuilding of the temple on the Temple Mount, Mount Moriah, will be the trigger that all the nations will know that I am Lord. I encourage the viewers to read Ezekiel 37 and specifically 26, 27, 28. Even if you don't remember those verses, you don't need to, just know the last three verses full-blown open there. And then you have the war of Gog and Magog, which means a war between Persia and Israel. And that's happening now in real time. There are, according to the US State Department, there are 27 wars currently raging in the world. Our viewers know very well that I could predict that the war that you're going to read about in the main legacy media right now, top fold, is going to be what's happening between Iran and Israel. There are other wars that are very significant, Russia, Ukraine, others are going on in Sudan today. Most people don't know about many other wars. Everyone is locked and loaded on what's happening in Iran. And in fact, it's the president of the United States that has made it very clear that he plans to take out Iran's nuclear weapons or its ability to produce them because he understands very well that the most dangerous country in the world should not have the most dangerous weapon in the world. Now, I want to speak to our Christian friends as well. We believe, I mean, I want to frame it this way. It is very striking to think about differences that Jews and Christians have about our beliefs. But let's talk about things that we share in common. We believe that the book of Ezra and Nehemiah is the word of God. It's part of our canon. And I want to express this, and I am confident all of our Christian viewers will agree with this, that it's not just the word of God that means it's immutable and it's true and reliable and dependable, but it means that it has a spiritual message. We see explicitly in the book of Ezra that we have a great leader who tells the Jews, move it to Jerusalem. Explicitly. That's how the book of Ezra begins with Cyrus, then the king of Persia. That's why this whole war between Persia and Israel is so unlikely, something you'd never expect with Persia and the Jews have had a a benevolent relationship. We wouldn't no one in the ancient world would have predicted that Persia would be the problem. Moreover, Ezra chapter two is enumerates all the Jews that moved to the land of Israel, 42,360. That's Ezra two. Ezra three begins by telling us that in the seventh month, the children of Israel would come to Jerusalem. By the way, the seventh month is when the flood ended on the 17th day of the seventh month. These are not accidents here. And the children of Israel would then immediately begin to bring offerings on the Temple Mount, and there was no altar. See Ezra chapter three verse six. Again, I know that my Christian friends recognize that Ezra is not a history book. This is not Barbara Tuchman. While it does, while scripture does marshal history in order to convey a theological import and messianic predictions, it is not just a history book. And therefore, we view that as something that is happening imminently, all eyes are locked on the Temple Mount, on Jerusalem, because the Bible says that it's Jerusalem that will change the world, that the nations will flow up like a stream up to Jerusalem. Isaiah chapter two, verse two, one, two, three, four. It means the Bible saying, for out of Zion go forth the law and the word of God from Jerusalem. It doesn't matter which Bible you use. I encourage people to go to Isaiah chapter two. So Isaiah, excuse me, Ezekiel 41 through 47 gives us the unused blueprints of the Messianic temple. I want to, with your permission, take this a step further. Why is it that thousands, millions of people, Jews and Christians, come to the Western Wall? And you could see just thousands from all over the world are coming. Why? Why why the Western Wall? Why is this so significant? It's so iconic. For Christians around the world, Jerusalem is the holiest place on the planet, full stop. See, it's not like this is some Jewish perspective. But why? Why is everyone looking at this place? Why is everyone's eyes locked on it? Zechariah 14 would tell us why. The key point is that I don't think any of our Christian or Jewish viewers wonder what's going on here. The Western Wall is the last remaining wall of the superstructure of the temple, the second temple, which was destroyed by Rome in the year 70 under Vespasian, the emperor Vespasian, Titus, his general. We all know that. Logically, all of our Christian friends would be looking at the Western Wall and go, oh, what a tragedy. It's a relic of destruction of the past. But somehow it's not. I look at the face of Christians that come to the Western Wall and they're shocked and astonished and filled with awe and glowing. Why? Why aren't they crying? I'll tell you why. Because they know very well that what happens to the Western Wall when the Messiah comes? Does it get thrown away because it's a 2,000-year-old wall? No. It's the first wall of the third temple. Therefore, to people who call call believers, they look at this well, as not just a relic of the past, not just a museum piece, but it's in fact pointing to a future, a time when the mouth of owls will split, a time when God's glory will be seen throughout the world. Ezekiel chapter 39 verse 21, explicitly the knowledge of God will cover the world as the water covers sea. Isaiah chapter 11 verse 9. So therefore people who are believers who look to the scriptures immutable word of God are saying arise a locked in Jerusalem and the God of Israel is keeping his promise. >> I I'm not trying to put words in your mouth uh but I am taking notes so I'm trying to clarify. I believe you said that the third temple uh construction is imminent. I believe you said that or maybe I misunderstood. Could you maybe define maybe correct me if I'm wrong or maybe clarify what you mean by that sir? >> Yeah, it's really simple. No one has been building the third temple. The walls are not modular. I hear that going around. That's not correct. No one's I will say that I never said on air the dome of the rock which is sitting with the holy of holies was and was built in 691 contains many stones of the second temple. I'll just say that and that's not controversial. Herodian stones from the second temple are used in the dome of the rock. But no one's building that. People who study scripture, of course there are unfortunately there are people in all camps that are not studying scripture. But those who are familiar with the Bible know very well that Jerusalem is everything, building of the final temple is explicitly described at the end of Ezekiel 37 as I point out 41 through 47 explicitly. However, there is a there's an order part that people are missing and I think and that's the Ezra chapter 3 catch. Ezra chapter 3 the Jews come to Jerusalem in this in the seventh month. There is no temple. For those who want to understand history, this occurs 50 years after the first temple was destroyed. So the neo-Babylonian empire is destroyed. The Persian emperor emerges Cyrus, a non-Jew. Yes, a Trump kind of like figure. I'm just going to say that because everyone's thinking, I might as well put it out there. I'm not saying it is, but it is that would be someone who's not Jew who says to the Jews, I recognize Jerusalem go back and build. I mean, Trump is the guy who's been telling the Jews, what are you doing voting for the other side? Like All right, so that's now Ezra tells us that the Jews there, there's no temple and they take an altar and begin to bring offerings to God and there is no temple there. They're bringing offerings there. In in the view of scripture, that means that you can bring offerings even if you are don't have a red heifer, for you don't have your people are impure. There and there is no temple. So therefore, we would submit that scripture is is compatible or pointing in the direction that their offerings were before the temple is is built. However, the foundation stone for the temple emerges in Ezra chapter 3 verse 8, 9 and 10. So immediately there is a temple that's built and there will be a temple built that is described in Ezekiel. Now I say this to our Catholic and Orthodox uppercase O friends. I just going to say it and I hope no one be offended. If you are part of the largest Christian denomination in the world, you're in a little bit of trouble, please don't be offended. Like where does a rabbi, an Orthodox rabbi from Jerusalem get to tell Catholics or Orthodox Christians? I just want to These are the apostolic churches. If you go to your priest, he'll tell you this is a spiritual temple. Why? Because the church fathers said that and they did. And I think the challenges for our Catholic and Orthodox friends is that they're in a closed loop because it is true that if you interpret the Bible only through John Chrysostom and Augustine, people who are revered among Protestants but not worshiped, no and praised to these people among Protestants. So all of them, whether it's Justin, they all thought that this was some sort of spiritual and God was done with the Jews because they killed Jesus. This is all the Church Fathers held this, Cyril of Jerusalem, Cyril of Alexandria. So I want to just say this to our friends who are in the apostolic circle. It is up to you as Christians to say, you know what? I'm going to go back to the Bible without any filters of the Church Fathers, and I'm going to read it for itself. And as it turns out, Ezekiel, this end part from 34 to the end is all Messianic and very easy to read and understand. And I I ask my Christian friends, would you consider reading the Bible in whatever language? I have no expectation of any Christian now learning Hebrew if you're let's say native English speaker. You're not going to learn Hebrew in the next year. So let's forget that. Read it in whatever translation you like. And it we very clear that it's a physical temple we were given the dimensions of it. And if that is the case, if anything I'm saying resonates with you as a Christian, please please don't be offended by it. Please reject the Church Fathers in favor of this scripture. Let the voice of Ezekiel be heard. Let the voice of Isaiah and Jeremiah be heard and not the words of Church Fathers who you may respect. But if you if you read the Hebrew Bible, what Christians call the Old Testament through the Church Fathers, you're basically in a closed loop and you have no way of escaping and let the text read let the text speak for themselves. >> Uh and again, uh folks, I'm just going to go back to I'm going to try to speak as little as possible to allow you to teach there, sir, but I want to tee up these questions. Uh the Temple Mount Israel, uh Temple Mount Israel, if you go to Google, type in Temple Mount Israel, you'll see it. There's this thing called the Dome of the Rock, this uh piece of architecture called the Dome of the Rock right there. And then there's this Al-Aqsa Mosque on this Temple area. If you could explain to us, sir, how big is the Temple Mount and uh does the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque, does that have to go away before the third temple is built? So if you could just explain how big is this area to give to provide some context for our listeners and and what's going to happen with the Dome of the Rock in the Al-Aqsa Mosque uh before the third temple is is constructed? >> I believe what I'm about to say is accurate. The Temple Mount is so large, I believe it's the largest man-made plateau in the world. I believe. I'm not sure. But it's something like that. I think it's somewhere in the order like 32 football fields. It's just massive. It's a very large area. And our concern, we are all locked on the the Dome of the Rock, not Al-Aqsa. Al-Aqsa, if you're viewing the Temple Mount from the perspective of the Western Wall, which means you're looking east, that means this the kind of bronze silverish dome, Al-Aqsa is to the right. That's south. Okay? So if you if you're coming from the Mount of Olives, it's reversed. Let's just take a look at the Western Wall. The golden dome is to the left. That means it's north. The distance between them So I'm going to make this up. I really it'll be something very easy to look up. Let's say they're 500 ft apart and I'm making that up. I just don't know, but it's something like that. It's a considerable distance, but not really. But the Al-Aqsa Mosque, it which was built after the Dome of the Rock, is so far south on the Temple Mount. In fact, it borders on the Temple Mount itself that it's of very little interest to us comparatively speaking. The whole Temple Mount area is holy to all Jews and Christians, but the Al-Aqsa Mosque is in the southern part. It's not in a place where the temple once stood, nor the first temple, Temple Solomon or the second temple, the the Temple of let's Let's Nehemiah and so on. It's So therefore, Al-Aqsa is of no interest to anyone. Now Now, in the Islamic world, Al-Aqsa is they consider it their third holiest place, but we're we're not going to go there. The Dome of the Rock is what's of enormous interest to everyone. Why? Not the building, but the spot. Where is it sitting? It's sitting on the holiest place on the planet. It's the foundation stone for which the Holy of Holies stood there. This is not controversial. I'm going to say something that will offend someone. If you see anything on YouTube anything that it's not it, ignore it. It's like like someone telling you that there's no Apollo landing. Just I I just would suggest you ignore that. That is it. The foundation stone is there. And that's where the Holy of Holies is. That's a That is the most sacred site. People who are praying, no matter where we are When I was in Indonesia, I prayed west. When I was in the United States, I prayed east. We're all facing that. That's what Daniel prayed towards in Daniel chapter 6 when he explicitly prayed to the God of Israel rather than Darius. That's it. And the key I'll take it a little bit further with your permission. So the Dome of the Rock is the place that it's what we would call the abomination. Now people say, what? The Dome of the Rock So all of you understand, there are no statues in there. I know many people, many of them Protestant friends of mine who go into the Church of Holy Sepulchre and are very offended by it because of all the statues and all the icons and all that stuff. I know a lot of Protestants who just who went there and regretted or don't like going in there or they have another place, the Garden Tomb, not Germain. But the Dome of the Rock is sitting, meaning it is essentially replacing It seeks to It's supplanting the Holy of Holies. In fact, that was the intention. When Islamic armies defeated the Byzantine Empire and in 636 and then they armies come to The Byzantine, I mean, the Roman Empire surrendered Jerusalem to Arab armies in 638. We know a lot about this. Immediately they wanted to know from Jews where is the place of the Holy of Holies? Where is the foundation stone? And there was a Jew who had become an apostate to Islam who showed them exactly where it is. This this information is not like something sketchy. It's found in Jewish sources and Islamic sources. That means Islamic sources confirm everything I'm saying to you. Now, what happens next is that the Temple Mount was a complete garbage dump. Why? Because of what I told you about the Church Fathers earlier. I'm going to need an extra minute on this, but I know you'll fine with that. The Church Fathers viewed the Temple Mount as unimportant because they saw the destruction of the Temple point to that God was done with the Jews, replacement theology. What the Islamic armies said was, wait, we need to clean that up. And Jews are brought in to clean up the Temple Mount. And in 688 the building of the Dome of the Rock begins. In a moment I'm going to clarify a point. But this is very critical. In 691 the Dome of the Rock is complete. And where does it sit? It sits on the on the foundation stone. Why is this so critical? Because if you read inside the Dome of the Rock, the writing, there are no statues there like you would find in in the Church of Holy Sepulcher. There's nothing. There's no icons there would offend anyone, none of that kind of stuff. But what you have is the proclamation that Islam is the only truth. There is no God but the true God and Muhammad is his prophet, which means the Islamic army is very much recognize the importance of this place, unlike the the Christians who were there beforehand. And those would not be Protestant Christians, so no one be offended. And the key point is now Islam supplants it all. That's what's critical. And therefore, and now we get to something of enormous interest to everyone. I want to say this to the viewers very clearly. You if you are a believer, if you're not a believer, this is of no interest to you. If you believe in the God of Israel, this should be the the Bible is is allergic to calculations and numbers. Very simple. The Bible warns again against any kind of calculations. Therefore, as someone who believes in the God of Israel, you should be uncomfortable with numbers. And in fact, the Bible tells us gives us only two monumental numbers, right where we expected. Daniel 8:14 tells us that from the time the the Greek Empire defeats the Persian Empire but that's what Daniel 8 is all about. To the time the Jews return will be 2,300 days. Stop at one point. When we find the term day at the end of Daniel, it means years. This is non-controversial. Why is not germane to the show? But this is days mean years here. So you're going to find the word days. So 2,300 years. The battle in which Alexander the Great defeated the Persian Empire, one of the most critical battle battles in human history was the Battle of Granicus. And he wasn't supposed to win that war, but he did. He he he almost got killed fighting and his general saved his life. Key point is that we know exactly when that occurred. It was the late spring of 334 BCE. Run the numbers here. Remember, there's no year zero. So 334 BCE, add to it 2,300 years. You are now in the late spring of 1967. Full stop. That's our first calculation. I wanted just for a moment before we go to the second calculation, I want just to advise our viewers of faith at this point. These calculations were never meant to be followed and when the way we know. In fact, Daniel admits in the last chapter, he doesn't even understand what he's saying, and there's a good reason why he wouldn't. And, in fact, the angel says, shut the book, seal it because you're giving away the time of the end. People of faith should view these these are very unique. We basically don't have any other parallel to it. I'm going to go to the second one in a moment. Viewers who believe in the God of Israel should look at these calculations is not how we know, but rather you're going to go down this path. The children of Israel are going to return. The covenant made with the God of Israel cannot be undone. When you get to the end, there's a lock, a combination lock. Dial in these numbers and the lock will open. It's just a confirmation. This is not how we know. We know because the Jews have returned to Jerusalem, the war of Gog and Magog. That's how we know. But we are given a combination. When you get here, I'm going to get emotional here. When you arrive at that juncture, at the end of days, dial in this number and if it's correct, the lock will open. Okay, that's how to think about this if you fear the God of Israel. Now, let's move to Daniel. The end This is how Daniel ends very quickly, very simply. We are told from the time of this abomination and desolation, Again, we're not looking for statues, but the place that's on where the daily offerings were. Now, I'm going to in a moment put a caveat in so everyone lock up on that. We know exactly when the Dome of the Rock was built. Al-Aqsa is a little bit in question. We know it's very early 700s. It's not We don't have but Dome of the Rock, we know exactly why why? Because there is a date inside the Dome of the Rock. It's the 72nd year of the Islamic calendar, which comports with of our calendar. Now, counting from the time of 691 add to it, Daniel says at the angel speaking here, 1,335 days, but it means years. Remember what I told you earlier? So do the do the math. 691 + 1,335 is 2026 2026, is very simple. I said that there's a caveat. It's not a big deal, but it should we need to be we don't we want to be very cautious here. We know that no doubt talking about Dome of the Rock, but there is only one caveat you must know. The 72nd year of the Islamic calendar is based on a lunar calendar, and we have no idea, as far as I know, maybe someone else has information. I have not encountered it. We just don't know. I'm just going to use 691 here. We have no idea when um when the Dome of the Rock was completed in the 72nd year which composed We don't just don't know. In fact, it can float into 692 simply because the the lunar calendar of the Muslims is composed of 354 days, rather a solar calendar is 365 and a quarter days on average. That's why we just don't know if it's really 691 692 because we're really not looking for that number, looking for 72 in the Islamic calendar. That's a warning. So therefore it's 691. That's the consensus number I presume you looked it up and whatever it is, but it would then there's an asterisk there. It could be 691/692. We just don't know when in the 72nd year of the Islamic calendar. And therefore the the number we're given that unlocks this combination lock at the end of the book of Daniel is compatible with 2026/2027. >> So I want to make sure I'm I'm I'm getting this and I'm taking notes and I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm just trying to understand this. You're saying that according to biblical calculations uh that in 2026 some profound things begin to happen and uh very soon from 2026 or very soon from now uh we're going to see the third temple and the introduction of the Messiah or what what happens after what's it going to happen here in 2026 or or early 2027 there sir? >> The Jews must return to Jerusalem. That's no question. Jewish sovereignty no question. That cannot be undone. Read the end. You only have to remember numbers. I know I'm giving you a lot of numbers. Just say to yourself, okay, the end of the book of Amos, last two verses, it can't be uprooted. That's it. There's a war between Persia and Israel. The distance between Israel and Iran is roughly the distance between New York and St. Louis. It's enormous. In the ancient world, this would have been it's hard to think of how you can conduct such a battle, but the battle is happening now in real time. You all know that's what everyone's focused on and everyone knows the mid-term elections are coming. I am not a political person, but it's hard to ignore what's unfolding every day's headlines. So what happens what then should happen as far as Ezra is concerned is that offerings will be brought on the Temple Mount, but without a a temple. And then the temple will be built. Now, I want to just say to the viewers the following. I don't have more information. I mean, scriptures tell us the following. The coming of the Messiah, the universal knowledge of God and world peace happen at the same time. I don't have more information than what scripture says and you shouldn't be interested in more information than that. The key is Ezekiel 37. Now, it would be nice if you went to 24 and 25 because the Messiah is introduced according to all Christian and Jewish sources, that's the Messiah, that's the prince that David everyone these are this is non-controversial. So I would ask the viewers to look at this chapter chapter. It's very famous because this is the the the valley of dry bones. It's an easy chapter. Ezekiel is very generous with words, much more so than Isaiah and Jeremiah, in that he's explaining every vision, what it means. I ask you, the viewer, to look it up yourself. Ezekiel simply says the following and I'm I do not have information that's not in the scripture. Scripture is saying that the coming of Messiah, he's there in Ezekiel 37:20-24 24 and 25. He's not called the Messiah in If you're looking for that, you won't find it. He's called the prince, he's called David. That's the Messiah. I know it's odd, isn't it? 39 times the word Messiah in It's not referring to the Messiah. The Messiah is not called the Messiah in in the Hebrew Bible. So be careful when examining these texts. Um then we have 26 27 28 which tells us there'll be a world peace, a universal knowledge of God, a full-blown covenant and the building of the temple. They all happen at the same time. I don't have more information than cuz scripture tells us in the Habakkuk chapter 2 verse 14 at that moment everyone will know the truth and Zephaniah who walked on the streets where I live pronounced that at that moment. That's the critical moment. Temple, the restoration of Jews, all [snorts] the nations will speak in a pure speech and the world will have only one religion. They will be of one accord. All your English translations will render it that way. So that's what the Bible says. I don't know more than what scripture says, but these texts are completely transparent that these happen simultaneously and you know, we're lucky. We're living in a time we are observing this in real time. How like your great grandfather couldn't even imagine this. If he was a believer, he would have been shocked by this. We are fortunate to have boxes where we're observing this spectacle right now in real time and we trust the Lord that as it happens, we'll understand every part of it and we're looking forward to that. >> You are blowing my mind and I always find myself running out of time when we have you on the show. So I I got to continue through my stack of stuff and we'll see if we can get all the questions uh asked here, sir. So the the Messiah, so once the third temple is constructed, so the third temple is constructed uh whenever that is, but it's imminent. Once that's constructed um how does the Messiah appear or or when does the Messiah appear? When does the uh individual Maybe just explain that cuz I think as Christians, we believe there's the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, right? The Trinity. Uh you believe differently. Um so when does the Messiah um show up or emerge or how does that work there, sir? >> Yeah. I want to make this point and I think our Christian Jewish viewers will appreciate this. I'm making this number up. I don't know if this is correct. I'm just going to say there will say 400 passages in the Hebrew Bible that are are Messianic. The Hebrew Bible is massive. As I mentioned, the Hebrew Bible is nearly 24,000 verses. Let's say four or 500 of them are Messianic. I'm just saying that. Like from 34 on these Eagles Messianic. Only about 20 of them, maybe 30 talk about the Messiah. As far as the Hebrew Bible goes, the Messiah will be someone who will be anointed by God to judge, to give rebuke to the nations of Isaiah two, Isaiah 11, and he will fear the Lord. He will judge people not at the sight of his eyes, but the spirit that God placed upon him. And again, verse three opens He'll be imbued with the fear of the Lord. He will emerge on the Mount of Olives, Zechariah chapter 14. This is very critical. Everyone will know it when he comes. This is just whatever you know that uh is not compatible to just throw away. I know this is an outrageous thing for me to say on air, but you might as well talk and why you're watching this. The key is that when he comes, it means this is a descendant of David and and and Solomon, there will be no discord in the world. Everyone will follow what he says. Why? Why do you want you Americans, why do you want to live in a a republic? Why do you like separation of powers? Why do you want the president's reach to be limited? Cuz you don't trust anybody. I get it. That's why we want to live in a democracy. We don't trust anybody. We don't want theocracies. However, if the king will be someone who's anointed by God and will fear God and God will direct his actions, bring it on. Because then we know that there'll be complete justice in the world. But one thing I plead with the viewers to read scripture. Zachary 9. People know Zachary 9 9. Behold your king cometh, you know, on a donkey, the foal of an ass. Everyone knows it, but people don't often know Zachary 9 10. War comes through and I beg you, the viewer. Zachary 9 10. You all know Zachary 9 9 from the Gospels. Let's go to Zachary 9 10 that war will be finished, that the chariots and horses will be done with. That's why he's coming on donkey because donkey is an animal, beast of burden that's not a not used in war. Horses are. And there'll be complete peace in the world and his sovereignty we've won into the world together. There are many people in the United States who love Donald Trump and there are many people who hate him. That's clear. In the Messianic age, the Messiah will be king and everyone will love him. Everyone will follow him. That's clear. Israel has a a Prime Minister who now trying to work out a government. People like him, people hate him. Messianic age, everyone is of one accord. That's what we expect. Now, the miracle things you're not going to find in the Hebrew Bible. The key point is everyone recognize it. Daniel 7 13 14. Daniel 7 13 is the Yeah, it is the most quoted passage in the entire Christian Bible. The son of man coming with the clouds of heaven. I'm not sure of this. I think it appears like 85 or 86 times in the Christian Bible, okay? So Christians better know this, okay? One like a son of man comes with the clouds of heaven to the Ancient of Days. The Ancient of Days is God, period, full stop. One come like a son of man comes with clouds, not on clouds. Forget the cartoon books. It's with clouds. That it means that the Messiah is coming to God who will then give him a glory and everyone will follow him. Everyone will serve him. There'll be no discord in the world's world. See Daniel 7:14. If you're a Christian, you should recognize these passage immediately. So God gives the Messiah all these uh this glory. Everyone recognizes so I want to be clear because it keeps coming up. There can when the true Messiah comes, there cannot be two religions in the world. They just can't happen from the Bible. If the Bible is not your authority and Augustine is and and I don't I maybe I should have Fine, I said it. You have a problem if the church fathers are guiding if you're reusing church fathers to guide your reading of what Christians call the Old Testament, I would encourage you to reconsider that to our Catholic friends, our Orthodox friends. Reconsider that point. As far as the Bible is concerned, this is uncontroversial. When the true Messiah comes, everyone will recognize. There'll be no Now, the only people that will be destroyed the Messianic age because this may be a question that's coming are not people who have a different religion because everyone will worship the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will recognize the Messiah. There will be people who will be utterly destroyed and that's clear and that's the enemies who come to attack Jerusalem, which will be a heavy burdensome stone in Zechariah 12:3. Zechariah 12 is easy. And I say this to you, my friends, who love the Bible and are scared of Zechariah. You have good reason to be scared of Zechariah. It opens up with visions, eight visions. But Zechariah 12 is easy, but read it from the beginning, not out of context. Just start reading Zechariah 12. No commentary is necessary. The Jews return. The enemies of Israel are completely defeated and everyone can see it. God strengthens the children of Israel that even the weakest of them will be like David, even like the angel Lord of hosts. Again, Zechariah 12:7 and 8 is very explicit there. See Ezekiel 38 and 39, particularly 39. They So the people who are destroyed at the end of the days are not people who belong to another religion, none of that stuff, cuz everyone turns around and repents. But, however, the enemies who go to war with Jerusalem, they'll be be completely destroyed. It is our hope, of course, that the enemies of Israel repent and don't go to war with her. This is the mother lode of bad ideas. So I just want to make that clear for our viewers around the world. >> Uh how will you know who the Messiah is? Again, I'm just trying to again, I apologize if I'm belaboring a question that might seem obvious to you, but for the Christian viewers who are watching this, is the is the Messiah a direct descendant of David David? Is is the Messiah a human? Is the Messiah a military leader? Is the Messiah someone who's good at technology? Is the Messiah elected? I just kind of walk us through How will you know who the Messiah is? >> I would hope that our viewers following this interview would open Isaiah 11. Everyone knows that that's totally the Messiah. It's not controversial. And just the first six verses, it's all there. So nothing I'm going to discuss is not explicitly in the text. The key is the Bible is silent of how, meaning everyone will know. So if people argue over whether this guy is the Messiah or not, he can't be the Messiah. Everyone will know it. God in turn will anoint him with the spirit of God, and through that spirit he will judge people. That's what's critical. He will be someone who would judge people not at the sight of his eyes, as I mentioned earlier, but the spirit that God places upon him. Now I want to make a point here. People ask the question because of the way you fashioned your question, people say, well, how will I know he's from David and Solomon? Okay. Stop. Don't do that. He does not show show up and he presents a a ID card like they have in the United States, driver's licenses, which are you have to confirm it. No fingerprint, no biometric, no none of that stuff. The Messiah who the whole world will know will be from David and We're not going to know he's the Messiah from David and Solomon because today, what I'm about to say is just a guess. I have no idea if this is true, but I'm I want to make a point. There are 300,000 descendants of King Solomon today. I have many friends who are descendants of David and Solomon, but I have no idea how many there are and I have no idea if that number is correct, but it's a significant number of people that theoretically could be eligible to be the Messiah if they're male. Again, we know the Messiah is going to be a man, not a woman, but that's not how we know who the Messiah is. You get the point? Okay. So this is really simple. So there are today, just let's just presume there are again, the number I don't know, we probably could look it up, there are hundreds of thousands of Jews who would by dint of their genealogy be descendant of David and Solomon. Doesn't mean they're the Messiah. Messiah will be descendant of David and Solomon. The way we know it is that the whole world will be of one accord. Everyone will recognize him as the descendant of the heir to the Davidic throne, but how will people come to know that? I want to say this to you. I don't know you, but I I'm just I feel a certain measure of confidence that your great-grandfather, wherever he lived, he was someone perhaps who was a believer. He was a person who was a Christian, but if you would have told him about the Jews would return from the ashes of the Holocaust and Israel would be in their hands and Jerusalem would be in their hands, he would go, really? How would that happen? I mean, the Jews in a miserable predicament in the Ottoman Empire would be unimaginable. Now we know how we got to this point. I want to if I may with your permission take this one one other measure. We'll take 30 seconds. This is perhaps the most important part of this interview. Looking back, we now know that many Messianic prophecies have already occurred, have unfolded before our eyes and that we've done we've we've looked at this tonight. What we can say with certainty is that Messianic prophecies that are followed in the Bible have literally come true. There was nothing esoteric, nothing poetic. The Jews returned, defeated their enemies, Jerusalem is our hands, full stop. We can then extrapolate going forward that while we we we're looking forward to what exactly happens on the Mount of Olives, I can't pretend to know. I know it's going to be split open. However that happens, I'm looking forward to it. But we could say with confidence that every prophecy that has yet to be fulfilled will be fulfilled literally rather in some esoteric manner that people would never guess from the text. So look at the Bible. >> So let's say I'm watching this right now and I say, you know, okay, I am Muslim and I'm going to reject the Messiah. Uh let's say I'm watching this and I'm a Jesus believer and I say I'm going to reject this Messiah. Let say I'm watching this and I'm some other religion and I say I'm going to reject the Messiah uh who is uh who emerges and who is uh in the third temple and who's ushering in world peace. What happens to those uh folks there, sir, who reject the the the Messiah that you are describing? >> It can't happen. Meaning when the then this is the point we did earlier. When the temple built is built, everyone knows again Ezekiel 37 26 27 28 it that can't happen because then it's not the Messiah. The Messiah when the true Messiah comes, the world will be of one accord. They'll speak the knowledge of God will cover the world as the water covers the seas. The Gentiles will come to you and say, surely lies and vanity where there could be no truth. How can a man make himself God's way and not Jeremiah chapter 16 verse 19 20. This is Zechariah 8 23. Pick your translation. Don't use Hebrew. Use NIV, King doesn't matter. 10 of the nations of different languages. So grab the shirt of a Jew. It literally says Jew there. It doesn't matter what your what the Bible using, go online, get it for free. They come to the Jew. Now the Hebrew there is they'll say Let us go with you. The key reason why I use the Hebrew is it's you in the plural. In English, the plural doesn't come through. Uh but the because the pronoun in English doesn't describe that. But it says let us go with you all because now we know that God is with you all. So it's very critical that in the Messianic age there can only be one religion. If there are multiple religions as you point on the horizon, what's Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Judah, if there are multiple religion, that means the Messiah is not here. And whoever There are guys out there, people who have not taken their medication who claim to be the Messiah. I receive many emails every day telling me about that they're the Messiah. God I I wish them all a complete recovery. When the true Messiah comes, there's no Christianity, no Islam, no Hindu, Buddhism, none of those religion. All the nation will believe in the one true God and recognize him as direct son of David Solomon. If there is discord as you described then there is no temple and the Messiah is not here. >> Final question for you. Uh for somebody who says, I don't know, that third temple thing, it's probably going to be constructed in 2050, 2075, that thing's going to be constructed in 2085. For somebody who doesn't uh you know maybe understand the Bible or the Torah as you do, they they don't read the the the Talmud or they don't understand the the the research that you've done, if you had to guess or when will we see the construction of this third temple there, sir? >> If anybody's out there thinking that's 2050, bear in mind that at no point during this thorough interview did I ever quote anything but the scripture. What all Christians agree is the word of God. But if you say, you know what, I just don't like numbers, I like that. I want you to be allergic to numbers. It is true that if you're going to ask me the questions, we have this number in Daniel 8:14 and in Daniel 12:12 and 13. They're there. They can't be ignored. However, a person that's afraid saying, you know what, I just something about numbers bothers me, I like you. get along just fine. Cuz the Bible's not oriented that way. I I I wanted to make it clear to our viewers that look at the events. The Jews returned to the land. Jerusalem in is in our hands. We have prophecy for that. The knowledge of God, that's the key point, not the number. So if you think it's 2050, great. That means you're looking at the order of events rather than the numbers. Don't let the numbers distract you. >> Wow. Rabbi Tovia Singer, thank you so much for your time, your energy, sir. I'm going to pull up your channel there so people can find you online. I'm going to go to YouTube real quick and pull it up. If people want to find your work, is there a specific channel that you want people to research or should we just go to YouTube and type in Tovia Singer? What's the best way to find your work there, sir? >> If you go to YouTube, you just put in Tovia. You don't even need the last name. It'll pop up there. Outreach Judaism is our website. Encourage you to visit there. But on YouTube you can find thousands of videos and encourage you to do that. And we're we're living in a remarkable time, aren't we? We're watching prophecy unfold before our eyes. Bear in mind that every prophecy has been fulfilled has been fulfilled literally and we're looking forward to the rest. Thank you for having me. >> So again, that website is outreachjudaism.org, and I'll put a link to your YouTube channel again. Thank you, sir, for carving out time. I really do appreciate you and we love to have you on again. >> Thank you. Shalom. 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