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Today's and we are nine lines from the bottom of so the Mishna brought an intense between regarding Tomas. So a NA in addition to being is also you don't need the entire NA in order to have to rather a kaz of basa is enough to be mat the tan discuss what happens if you have the hide of an animal and attached to the hide of the animal is a little bit of baser and that boser adds up to a kazayas is that enough for it to transmit to or not you have a kazayas bus available perhaps Yes. Or being that it's attached to the maybe it's going to be differentish if the entire is together as one. Even if it's attached to the it's going to be no both if however the is not in one clump but rather you have two you have a and that are attached to the same even though they're via the being that you don't have the kaz together it's not so posh that there would be to what's the rabbi says there's no ma there is masaka says You can't have one without the other. And being that there's no m you're not going to have masa either. stating that the Mishna said in the event that you would have two of they weren't attached to but rather they were connected with a likeab and then you moved it to you're going to be Tommy in other words doesn't disagree fundamentally with Rabi that it's impossible to have tumos neo with twoimm that are attached the fact that the katiim are separate and they're merely attached by something superficial that in and of itself is not a reason for it not to have why then does hold in the if you have two of that are attached to act himself explained it in the it's a separate it's because each half of is bottled to the as a result you don't have a because two things that are each bottle don't eat add up to anything. In other words, as it relates to that attach to both there's no as it relates to Tomas Masa Rabish says this Tomas Masa. If somebody would carry this height, he would become to Rabaka says there's no Tomas Masa stating that Rabaka agrees that it's possible to have Tomas Masa of Na even if you have two Z that are separate. How so? If they were attached not via but they were attached with a such as a kebab. What's the difference? When they're attached to the is each half is thus you don't have a if [snorts] they're attached via does nothing agrees that you could bear of two half and have stating that the begins today's d with a member from who was an which at first glance would seem to contradict everything that we just said. saying if somebody has two of and he attached them together with this he could pick it up put it down carry it this way that way is my what's the reason because the p when it describes that someone that carries a noa is noa is transmitted via ma and masa and when the describes the tumas masa component of an a says veno. But if you look at the word in the it's written there's no v in veno. Thus what we do is we say that even though the way the word is pronounced [snorts] the of the word is no but it's written as if it would have said how do we say someone who carries would seem to suggest that you have to carry a two halfim that are attached by something external is not considered and it's for that reason says If you would take two half of an and you would carry it the whole day is that you're going to be why it's because when the says it's written as if it would say what's the it contradicts everything in our said that if you have two of it's attached to the R you carry the argues And as a result is going to be how could say then that you see from that even though the two halfim are separate they're merely attached via the still said you have to say that is talking about we are although Though the two half asim were separate but there was one rituous bas there was one strip of meat that attached the two halfim being that they are attached albeit with this very thin strip of meat that's enough for it to be considered and it's for that reason you're going to be was talking about where there was no attaching the two halfm in that case it's not going to be another or another from the next part of the even though says that if you have two of that are attached to the ismas or but the if you would have two that were attached with a rod they were attached with a a and you carried it this literally contradicts you have to say the same it's talking about although they were separate but there was this rua that was attaching the two halfimm and it's for that was talking about where there was to us and our discussing what was say at first glance it would seem that this of is really not but perhaps it's implied from what at first glance would seem to be an ambiguous the says as follows if somebody touches or if somebody moves he becomes tot says even someone that carries a now if you read the carefully at first glance it's a little said that if you touch or if you move you become he says not only if you move it but even if you carry it when you carry it you're moving it so what does that mean must be this is the holds that if you touch if you move but he doesn't require that the be able to be carried for us [snorts] came to be who not we know if he's coming to add a criteria and that is that it has to be not the it has to be able to be carried The point is so it would seem then that this needs to be able to be carried or not it would seem to be but asks if is coming to do is tell me that the only time is if it's that means is coming to limit. He's being the laws of Tomas. He's saying that the only time is if it was able to be that's not what the word a sounds like sounds like he's being he's being is not being the way we're understanding El's actually being he's saying that the only time is if it's possible for it to be but if it can't be then there's not going to be that's not a is even more change the word you're right if that's the problem instead of saying say who for who he's being in fact either way the garra suggests that this of is really either way so the is going to now shift its attention from the often to the of ais usually means the thigh bone, the femur in our Mishna, what kulus is going to mean is any bone that has marrow in it. So the thigh has marrow in it. Any bone that has marrow in it in our Mishna is going to be referred to as a kulus. So there's some bones that have bone marrow. There are bones that do not have bone marrow. Our Mishna is talking specifically about bones that have marrow. says the Mishna the a bone of a human corpse that has marrow in it or the bone of a that's that has marrow in it. Rashi says right away what kind of are we referring to. Rashi sends us to the very end of a fascinating that we discussed in somewhat detail when we learned and that is so we're very familiar with and we're very familiar with are two of the prototypical when you're dealing with something becomes piggle when was doing the toer happens when the carbon is left over beyond its time. Those they carry with them the but in addition to all that to add insult to injury the said that if somebody comes in contact with pigle flesh that's big or if someone comes in contact with he's going to be so in addition to all the and all the and brisk etc. There's also so somebody touches if it comes to why it's not the so why have to do that already felt that even though but there may be that are going to have a piggle why would they do it to get back at there may be kayan that are going to be lazy and they're and they're not going to make sure that the buser doesn't turn into noiser What did they do? Tommo, as we've seen, we spoke about this last week, Tommo, for some reason carried a very important place as it relates to the conscience of the And if you tell the oh, if there's going to be pigle now, you're going to become. So that already was able to but the point is no. So if you have the that's a bone of a carbon that's piggle or no that has marrow inside of it. What's that again? Bone marrow of a human or a that's now because it's either piggle or noise or I don't get the hand if somebody touches whether the bone was completely sealed off. So the marrow is completely absorbed inside this bone that or whether it has a hole the person's going to be available of a what about the coolest of a animal that isn't avail to the extent that the bone He's not going to be even explain all this. We saw this already yesterday that there's no to the extent that the can't be either because the two are related to each other. That was yesterday's death and is going to get back into this. But either way, for now the Mishna is saying with regards to a kulus, again a kulus is a bone that has marrow inside it. And the question is if somebody comes in contact now with this cool somebody touches it and Rashi says when we say we mean if say as well that's what we're referring to what's the does he become to does he not become says the mission depends what type of tom we're discussing and the mission discusses four types of tomastosh that's neo and as relates to mace and if Somebody touches this is going to be as it relates to if it touches it is going to be if he touches it even if the neut is so small it's a rash says it's so small that the only thing that can get in it is a strand of it doesn't matter that's enough for it to be but if it's awesome in that case you're going to be either way as you can tell but the primary topic of the daff now is going to be today's d that is focusing on the first of the and that is the is as it relates to a human corpse. So if somebody comes in contact with that what does that mean? he touches it. Rashi says if he carries it or is he's going to be so before we start the just a little bit of an introduction we're familiar with the idea of Tomas that was the parish that was master right the of Tomas mace a mace transmits to but the truth is you don't need an entire mace in order to have to a kaz bosom and a mace is mama a reve of Amaze is mama. An aver of a mace is mama. Anmra is mama. A ladle full, a spoonful of dust of a mace is mama. So you don't need the entire right these areas and scattered throughout. But but the point is is that you don't need the entire mace in order to have to m but certain parts of a mace would be enough in order to transmit to. That's number one. Number two is a mace. In addition to being has a very specialish, it's also what does oil mean? It means one of three things. It means if somebody's mah on a mace, if somebody would walk over a mace, say he himself created the oil on the mace, he now would become even though he never touched the mace, he never carried the mace. But by virtue of the fact that he himself was an oil on the mace, there's a transmission of tommo through the oil. If the mace would be mah on top of him. So you're sitting down, you're minding your own business, and now a mace goes flying over you. So that's Tomas oil because the mace itself was the oil. The [snorts] most common example of Tomas oil is if two a person is in a room and there's a mace in the same room. So if a person is under the same oil as the mace, that would be a third way for there to be too much oil. We're going to see in today's D that there's lumpish differences between the respective types of tomas oil. Not all to oils were created equally. They're not all the same. But there's three ways that a mace could transmit to through oil. If the person is the oil on the mace, if the mace is the oil on the person or if the person and the maze are both underneath the same oil. Number three, not all mace or not all parts of a maze have the ability to be metab. So for example, a kazhas boser as it relates to today's stuff has the ability to be it could also be an a of a mace is it could also be but an for example that says that an the size of a that's very small a barley that's enough to transmit to but that's only not necessarily. So again you don't need the entire maze in order to have to there's a concept of a m already can transmit to m you have the re of the maze you have the you have the you have the draft so there's different parts of a maze that have the ability to transmit to when you talk about maze there's ma there's masa in addition to that there's also but not all parts of a maze that have an ability to transmit to have an ability to be a complete maze for sure even a kazay is boss in a even but for example in that's that does not have the ability to stating that begins its discussion of with the Mishna said if you have this bone that has marrow inside it what's the if somebody touches it [clears throat] is going to be it sounds like you're only if you come in contact with the kulas. What if you were under the same roof as the kulus? What if you were mah on the kulas? What if the kulus was mah over you? It sounds like in that case you're not going to be because if in that case all the mission should say not only is he going to be but even if there was there was an oil relationship between you and the coolest that should be enough for there to be it sounds like from the only way to become from the is through not through are we talking about where this meat on the bone literally There's a kazer on the coolest. Then certainly there should be why because of the buser that's on the coolest. So what do you have to say? Okay, that's easy. The Mish is talking about where there was no continues and says that if it the marrow that's inside the bone which is and throughout view that marrow you have it in carbon in a whole bunch of different places in as if that amounts to then there should be oil why because the of that's inside the kulus makes up a kazayas boser. And even though you'll tell me but you never came in contact with the kazayas boser cuz even if you're under the same oil with that bone but the is absorbed inside the bone. So being that the is in the bone. So how does the in the bone have an ability to be? The answer is 101 because is that if you have that's inside something else if there's no if there's no gap of a between the and the thing that the is inside is the is able to be and it's able to go literally up to the so in this case there's no between the marrow inside the bone and the and the physical bone as a result this is it's through the bone and has ability to be if that's the case. So why is it not like okay again not so sure you'll tell me it's talking about there was no there's no on the bone there's also no in the continues if the t of our is if the is of the opinion that the mitas is that the marrow inside the bone has an ability to make the bosar on the bone regenerate. One of the functions of bone marrow is that it allows the muscle and the tissue and the meat of the bone to regenerate. So Frank the gammoro that the assumption is that that's what bone marrow does and presumably that's what the mishna should hold. If that's the case that we should view the coolest not as an but rather as an it should be and this is based on the fact that we mentioned in the that an is oil but an is not of oil. What's the difference between an a and an one is a limb the other one is a bone. So for our purposes as it relates to the sugis of a hullis the difference is that an aer is a bone or could be a bone that has baser on it. An ets is just a a trick in a that doesn't have any baser on it. stating that the gumar understands in the kash and rashi explains this at great length argues with rash a little bit and rash on the garra that any bone that has the doesn't have any baser on it now but has the ability for there to be baser or could have would have should have had the ability for it to have baser that would be enough to look at it right now as being an this that has being that the has the ability to create the basa to regenerate now right now the is already detached from the from the animal. So now nothing's going to regenerate and but had it been attached that's the could have would a should part it then it would have regenerated. said that's enough to look at it maybe right now as an why in the only says also what happened to three number one what happened to the buser on the on the he'll tell me there's no bosser on the what about you'll tell me there was no kazar forget about the boser there is no right there's no kazer you don't have you can't check off that box but I can check off a different box is also Just like a gazer and matab's matab and why is this not a neighbor? You'll tell me it's not an a cuz what defines a you have to have baser there was no baser it's true you don't have baser but you have may and says even if you don't have mayak as long as there was once mak that should be enough a cul by definition for sure at one point had mak so the mayak should be enough to say that being that when this bone was attached to the it had the ability to regenerate that's enough to look at it now as a once it's an You have to say it's not the way it is. And as a result, this marrow does not have the ability to regenerate. That's why you don't look at it as an there's no there's no it's not an why not because it's not going to be and as a result if it's not an and it's not a all it is is an oil what is a telling me now in order to understand the First and specifically why it is that there's too much but there's no you have to make an tell me it's talking about there's no because again if there was so is going to bomb away if that's the case how do you understand the second explains the casual with noer so let's let's talk about noiser is something that in addition to being in addition to being it also falls into the categories of is also but that's in order to have no you have to have no if it's you don't have if you have a noiser so now there's going to be so says the if the is talking about where there's no kazar not on the bone and not in the bone Why are we saying that to explain the first why is only it's not if that's the case the second was if there's no then there should be noaser and another the third and the fourth cases of the respectfully what did the say over there as it relates to if you have a kis with a hole inside of it so did is if it was there's not going to be why if there's an isma you don't have a of and the premise of this question is that that's an of an a and a of a human being is but there's no that an of a or an of a so the only reason that there should Tomas is because of the inside. How much do you have to have inside? Then you have to have a kaz even two as we saw in the beginning of the d. So that's part you have to have a kash is we're talking about that there's no kazayas. So where's the where the so the is essentially asking what's going on over here the to understand the first the ratio in this case means the first of the four is mentioned you have to make an there was no why because if there's a why is only why is there so there was no gaz the problem is the second third and fourth cases of the only make sense if there was a second case no it's not there's no the third and the fourth cases where we're talking about the coolest being available the coolest doesn't have an ability to be mata. Doesn't matter. It could be a hole. That's that's it doesn't matter how big it is. It doesn't have an ability to be mama. It's only the mak inside. How much you have to have a kazay. So then the first case is talking about where there was no kaz. And the second and the third and the fourth cases is talking about where there was a kaz and the gumar gives the perfect answer. Yeah. Again the ratio meaning the first case save for the gaz and the safe is talking about where not. Now incidentally just so that it shouldn't get more confusing than it might already be but when you say ra and safa so essentially what the just did now is there's two raers and saf is usually straightforward the ra the no you have four cases so the there's the ra and the safh from the standpoint and then there's the ra and the from the mitsia standpoint from the hakic standpoint the mishna said that the kulus is mama whether it's sum in two cases and it's not when it's awesome in two cases and so the ratio then would be and then you have the two cases where the is only if there's a so that would be the safest you have the safer from the of whether or not this is when it's awesome the ratio is and the is and now you have the and the from the mitz standpoint the first case of the mish talking about where there was no kaz the second and the third and the fourth case of the mish talking about where there was a so you have the ratio which is the it's the which is all talking about where there is a when you talk about the so you have to ask a follow-up question, right? Oh, do you mean the ration the safer from the perspective or do you mean the ration the safer from the mat's perspective? From the from the perspective, the ratio is the from the perspective the ratio is either way says the but now that we said that the ratio again is talking about and they say if that's the case so we we're trying to make sense of And the is like we knew this. What do you mean? What's the rash place? The first case of the Mishna essentially is telling me that this is says there's no in this there's no what's the has an ability. Everybody knows is now if you're telling me it's also okay then maybe it sounds like there's some going on over here. But you're telling me all you have is aim. You don't have any buster anyways. So what exactly is the says the I'll explain to you the of all four cases right the no there is no you know the kdish is not that it's the is that it's not boil why would you think it's not boil you don't have a kazaya the terance is you would have thought that being that this is a kus this is a bone that has marrow or at the very least had marrow that's enough to give the bonus status of a because being that it's malar or could have been that's enough to look at it as a neighbor is like that that's the what's the second case the fact that there's something called we know there's something called laughing says no that's for sure what's true that we know that nicer is mat. But when you think of nicer, what do you think of when you visualize nicer stickles, you think of a rib steak, right? That's what you think of. You're thinking of a piece of meat. That's what comes to mind. You never touched a piece of meat over here. You touched the bone. We made it that there was a inside the bone, but it's in the bone. Touching the bone makes you tummy. That's a like in last week's stuff. There's a concept of which is considered and says that's certainly worthy of a that's a in fact but the point is that's what about the latter cases of the from the perspect oh say from the perspective and says The as it relates to and the is that you have to have a ne but if you don't have a ne in that case you're not going to be now why is that aes if there's no nek of course you're not you're not because you didn't touch it no so how do you become by you have to touch the buser the buser is the that's inside the bone you have no way of touching it so why is it aish you're not the answer is very simple. The answer is the kesh is not that there's no tomas. The kesh is that there's no tomas masa. Why is there no tomas masa? You carry it. What's what's the difference if you have to in a bag and you would carry it or if there's inside a bone and I carry the bone to why not the is the only time you have too much. But is that a it was a before we don't yesterday's but in light of that. Why is that a kadesh? The ter is you know what the kadesh is? It's because in yesterday's d what happened was you had two halfim of that were attached to the reason there was no maga in that case is because for they have to be one because of so they have to be one in order to be there was a there was a there was no of as related to ma that's why there was no mas either in our there is a of ma you have that's all together the problem is it's inside a bone that's crack the bone open. Break the bone. There's no just break the bone and take out the the touch the so why is that the fact that is this second I can't get to it that's enough for it to be like either way that's the beer in this thus you have aesh either way so what the essentially did was is to make sense of the the in each one of the four cases respectively is to say very simply that the ratio as in the First of the is talking about where it was like the three latter case in the Mishna was talking about where there was additionally what came out from the again the emphasis of today's d is on the first case of the we'll get to the rest of the but today the emphasis is the first case of the and that is is that why is it only why is it not that there is because there was no kazel And there was no kaz of and the kumis is not viewed as an a because the is that the is so it's not there's no all there is is an is this is true but it's only it's not had a problem with what we just said only one part of says that bone marrow one of its functions are it allows the the bone and the body to regenerate. So as a result it's says I look at a koulus as an a. I don't look at it if you understand the definition of an versus there's no question that a is considered an a. If that's the case, if it's then why isn't it? Forget about the let it be. It's talking about where you scraped off part of the marrow. You ruined the bone and you ruined its marrow's ability to be able to do what it has to do. Meaning in its natural state would be but this is not a natural kulus anymore. You chapped it with it already and as a result that's going to be a problem. If you had a koolis and you shaved it along its length, it's still tummy meaning it's still treated as an a because it its marrow doesn't lose its functionality. If however you would shave it along its width around the circumference of it in that case it would bear because at that point it's not an anymore. A good way to remember is that a tree if somebody would play with a tree around its then that would affect the tree's ability to produce. If you do it wouldn't affect its ability to produce. The bottom line is that's what said. So Abay agrees with everything that the Gmorra said up until this point with just one tweak. He just said that you're right. The ratio the first case of the Mishna is talking about where there was no Kazayas. The latter three cases I'm talking about was a gaz as it relates to the forget about the why don't we look at the kas as a neighbor the first is it's not a neighbor the mus is that the doesn't have an ability to be thus is not a neighbor says no really does have an ability where it doesn't have an ability why not say had a whole different wanted the mission to be consistent he said if the second third and fourth case in the mission I'm talking about whether there was a gazhas the first case is also talking with it was a what's the if the first case is with a gaz should be oil and by the way added and he said even if there wasn't a said it's still the bone of [snorts] kus would be viewed as an a because and I'm not going to make an akinta like where right now the kulus doesn't have an ability to no no it does that's the case it's a how do You understand the why does the say as well says the it is all the did say it was no it didn't the said you know what means this is going to take us already into Columbus but before this just asks if then how do you understand In the latter case only if there's a nev if there's no what's the because if there's no ne all you have is an ex is not if there is a nev then you have the bos that's inside the kaz that's inside now already you can touch it you can stick a here inside it and touch it so if it's it so now you're good I as well so at that point already you're going to be but the kasha is that the bone marrow of the and the should make that coolest of the also into an oh once it's an a of mama is not mama but is that if this is then why so you have to say it was and really is but in ourish it didn't have the ability to was already dried out. I mean that it was dried out. It was rattling. That's the literal of at this point. It didn't have the ability. That's the punch line though is doesn't have the ability to regenerate as it relates to maze. It doesn't matter that it doesn't have the ability to regenerate because by maze I don't need the I don't need the inside in order to have to because the could be but as it relates to even what is that doesn't the have an ability to make the regenerate dust which once it's at that point it doesn't have an ability to do it but the bottom line is there's one lumpish piece that said in his video of this Mishna and is going to digress now well into tomorrow's discussing this and that is said that really when the Mishna says you know what means it means if you touched it means that if you carried it also means if you were in a relationship with it what's the point the point is because right it's one and the same oil is na oil. If somebody is takas and oil together with a mace, it's as if he touched the mace. That sounds like aesh because at first glance you would think and so for this already we need a source but at the same time we need a source for such a and that's what the is going to do. Now I have a source. If somebody was touching a half a Zasmak of and he himself was serving as an oil on top of another half his so in his right hand he was holding a half his of and and then he was being mahel at the same time over another half. So he's touching a half his and he's being mal on a half his eyes or he was holding half his eyes and there was half his that was being mal is going to be Tommy. Why women s says [laughter] if when somebody is on a mace it's as if he's touching it so that it comes out that maga and oil are really one of the same because the of oil is it's a type of mag that's why it's going to tell me that we learn to tell that But it's two is going to be taught says you have to say oh you're telling me that and oil is the same thing. How you going to learn the says what this is like case what happened if somebody was touching a half a and he was under an oil together with another half as again a third example of how you have someone touching a half a tumas oil with another half his so what's over there he's going to be if it's one shem I then why are you going to be to her? Now really what the this that's the same for the same Mishna. So what the said was as follows. What happens if somebody's touching a half of a mace and he's in oil with another half as says the Mishna? If you summarize it, it depends what type of oil. We said in the there's three types of tomas oil. How do you have to oil? You're mah on the mace. The mace is mah on you. You're under the same oil as the mace. In the first two cases, if you're m on the mace, the ace the mace is mild on you and you're touching, that's mistak. If you're touching and you're under the same oil with the other half, then it's not going to be aloponent. What it seems like is that from the r and are the same from the sounds like it's not. So the initially brought this as a which part of the ratio. But then the said immediately, you're bringing a riot from the ratio. You have a kasha from the which in other words means we have to understand the mishna a little bit better because otherwise the seems to be itself that's the kasha how do you understand the razer said and this parrot really requires a lot of beer that we don't have the time for it's talking about the ratio that is it's talking about where you didn't have a regular So you were being mah on top of the mace but at the same time it wasn't a regular where the tum was in a very compacted area. It was so small that the area that this was in was less than one cubic that if tum is in an area of less than a cubic it doesn't have the ability to create a real tumas soil. So in that case when you're mah on top of tuma that's in that type of area. So it's not considered to because that type of tuma doesn't have the ability to transmit via what then will the toma be? It's going to be neg that's not going to be and that's goof why it's you're right maybe the town of the Mishna holds that oil and do not have the ability to mitarif but in the ratio it's talking about with a tum was in this mat thus it's not oil what it is is maga it's some convoluted form of a maga and as a result it has an ability to be mitar but ordinarily it does not have the ability to be mitar says the gamar if That's the case. So then who is the that's meaning when the Mishna says means even oil because oil is sometimes referred to as who's the we thought it's this but then we can't make sense of the so must be the the mean something else but as it relates to who's the says it's going to says Molly tarv if you have a Rashi says a tarv is a caf so a spoonful or a ladle full of of dust of a maze oil. So if you have it's again think of the crerematorium leeno the dust of a mace. So what are we discussing here? oil. I understand says the how it's possible to become through this. You're carrying the you're under the same roof as the you on top of it. It's on top of you. So it's not so hard to figure out how this works. But the cash is the shear is every little speck of dust. How do you touch every speck of dust? It's not possible. How do you touch every single speck? It's not It's not possible. So, if it's not possible, how do you have you know must have meant when he said, "What do you mean when he said?" He meant oil. He meant oil. So, you see that who used the word that's this part is very simple. Then when the says [laughter] maybe what do you see means said if somebody touches becomes no way and you how do you touch every spectrum says how does that you can make that work but there's no way that's what meant you know why is what does ma mean? You're telling me it means oil means what does mean? It also means oil. So didn't have to say oil twice said to answer this question. You're right meant when he said and he meant oil when he said it's the same thing. He's not being redundant. Two types of oils. There's an oil where the oil is within one of the and then there's an oil where it's of a when it's within a it's called when it's not called different even if it's still going to be considered oil then oil this is a and that it says ra there's different types of oils as we saw this tumas oil where you're m on the to this tumas oil where the tum is m on you in this tomas oil where you're both under the same to when you're on the toma or the tom's on you that type of tomas oil magar that's called a mag oil when you're under the same oil as the toma that's what Robert refers to as ham that's a different type of oil that type of tomas oil is where meant when he said oil the bottom line is you have a from you have a from that the word mag could sometimes mean oil thus that would the tour of the Mishna says what was the why only why not so we had two of the two the first and they said that it's talking about we're for some reason it's not noas why not there was no of meat on the bone there was no kazayas of in the bone The either never has the ability to regenerate or in this case where it doesn't have the ability to regenerate. It's not an a either there's no there's no all there is is an very nice is a is an but is not so if it's not that's why you don't have to that was the first one second that the Mishna when it says it doesn't just mean because when you use the word in the context of means it means and it also means it also means where do you find that can mean it's that What does maga mean? It doesn't mean literally magma because you can't touch every piece of what it must mean is it must mean oil. I didn't anyways mention said one terret Rab said another terret for further analysis you can take a look at Rashi you don't have to go that far but Rashi of art says that really at the end of the day is going to have to learn like not like but the will stop