Chulin 18

Today's and we are at the sixth wide line on today's being learned. Today's also being learned benimas. So at the very end of yesterday's DAFF, the Gmorra pivoted to a technical conversation which was in very stark contrast to the overwhelming majority of yesterday's DAFF which was anything but technical. [snorts] It was historical. It was mikrad. It was raid dig. It was lumish. It something that is discussed at length from the as in rashi and the ra all the way through the contemporary as we're going to seem in today's raid. But the latter part of the d got involved in a very technical conversation which if you're a farmer or at the very least a [ __ ] I think made more sense. It discussed [snorts] different piggyos notches inside the sakin when it would render the n orita and when it would actually be okay. Either way, the gimmor is going to take the queue and we're going to have now another discussion as it relates to knives and notches and how they intersect with the laws of that, by the way, is going to be the first part of today's do. The second part of today's d we're going to start getting into an even more technical if you could believe it discussion with regards to and that is one of the five specifically the one known as which is going to require background in the anatomy and physiology of animals which is way above my pay grade stating that a lot of gimar a lot of technicalities we will hashem do what we do and then when it comes to raid this is easy we're going to go back to yesterday's and talk a lot about the between but first we have a lot of ground to cover how do you know that the has to check the knife to make sure that there are no notches from a this is in olive peralid and the context over there is checking a knife to Make sure the is okay. Always means you're looking it between the eyes. So you see with something that I looked at and then and only then is it going to be okay. I don't know why did need a to tell me that you have to do a being that in the event that there would be a nevita was done it would render the animal to a trafer. So it's obvious by you should have to do a bika meaning why you doing aika to make sure the is going to be a proper so I need a pik to know that you have to do a a proper right it's as if you would have a pik somewhere in the that says that before you take your aster make sure you the astric to see if it's kasher if an has to be kosher I have to do aika so obviously you need to do aika why do I need a extra infar says you're right to teach the I don't need a where was learning from that was that you need it was given to a third party an objective person that's what you learn from that can't be you know why said that the whole of giving it to is just a way of being but it sounds like it's not actually something that You have to do now if you're going to tell me that the is coming to teach me not because that's but rather the fact that so how could it be only sounds like that's the from says the you're right you have to say [snorts] that really and the fact that you have to show it to that's only like said the this is at the end of the day after further review number one it's not it's and number two even though he brought a all it is is an there is an interesting sideby conversation in the which we're not going to get into but it's something that always comes up and we've referenced so many times over years and that is said. It sounds like would be considered. So we know that whatever it says in is always referred to as it only is it somewhere in between sounds like it has maybe the significance of either way. [snorts] So just in a very structured way introduced the concept of the gumar now is going to have a lengthy discussion how exactly the sak was checked meaning how exactly is this done says the garit they would look in the sun and that's how they would do the which was in of course they would put the knife in the water and depending on the wave that it created in the water that would determine whether it had aim didn't have a pima refacious just he would put it on his tongue. That's the way he would check it. He would put a a here along the knife and if the here would get stuck in it that meant there was some sort of notch there which was another local in they would say. What are you checking? You're checking to see if when it's going to go through the bus is it gonna create a nek or it's not going to create a neck. So what you're checking it in water, you're checking it on your own tongue, you're checking it with a cut through the meat that you're going to ultimately be cutting. And therefore, you have to use uh real live flesh as the object of the in order to know exactly what this is. I'm rapa said the has to be done on the bistro, which Rashi says means the buser of the which means on the fingernail. Additionally, you have to be in three different places. You have to be on the blade side and then on the two sides of the blade. There too, you would have to be as well. Second on the says, so again, we're not farmers, but it seems that the mirrors just based on its consistency [snorts] theor mirrors tora. So you have to be to make sure there's going to be no issue with the there's going to be no issue with the that's why you do it in those ways. Additionally saying another you have to do because again all three of these sides are going to make contact with the animal. So therefore you have to check it in all three of these ways. You know told us in your name you say in the name of exactly what our papa said that the way you do the is number one number two for the additionally has to be under it's true but as relates to I never said some say that told It's true. I said all of that. However, you got it a little bit wrong cuz you said that. I said it in the name of that part of it is not true. I never said it in the name ofashi. Ravina and Ra was sitting in front of Raashi. Could you read this line the same way after the ray in the beginning? I know I can't. So Ravina and Ra are both sitting in the presence of Raashi and somebody bored a in front of Raashi to do Raashi turned not to Ra. It's interesting he turned to his other right-hand man and he told him I want you to do a okay. What did he do? told him doing who was my he said the same thing said I hold that is something that you have to do however as it relates to that already something that you don't have to do which by the way in one of the versions that was raashi remember Ra told I heard in your name that you have to do I heard you say in the name of Ra. So there were twoashi's responses. One response was I never said the other response was I said I just didn't say in the name of so this is going like that first list in the previous that there's an idea for the but you don't know have to why and the says [clears throat] something very because saying the name in the event somebody made a sack in white hat and he went ahead he did a share it's going to be I warn you worried that maybe before the ves severed. Maybe they got burnt. They were singed and as a result really this is not a the reason is based on two things because the sharpness of the is going to se the before the is going to make it hot. It could what about the right are maybe going to make it hot. He said because the amount of heat that's on the is very little but the amount of heat that are on the sides that would be greater. Now what was the terret? It's because so as you slit the it spreads out and the sides never actually touch it. Says the said that's why I hold you don't have to check because that's never going to make contact. It's only that's going to make contact. It's based on more laws related to notches. There are three areas in where you find the concept of a so we know there's a when it comes to the bones of the carbon any in the bone of the carbon would already be a problem there's a big if it's pal or if it's right either way it goes to the k but whether the k has to be if it has a carbon there's a big that's why the sugis of balim are actually in the It's the next we're going to get to item. But the point is there's a that if the has specifically it would be considered. If you take a look at Rashi and they both say is but for whatever reason it's not our nowish picked on the and finally really any animal any of itself would be a problem. Now if you mention why do you also have to mention again speaks out that there's a as it relates to the laws of regarding and that's why it's singled out independently [clears throat] said this is really what we need that there's another area and that is if there's going to be an issue saidish he's not he didn't say why he only mentioned three but he doesn't hold of the laws of right by the way it's who's the one who started the he's the one that said it's nice it's cute but at the end of the day also holds that is going to be a So why didn't he say it? So the says were learning. He was learning there's three of says as relates to all these what is the it's the same share as the of the so another area where there was the of the if it's missing a little part of the misb that in itself could be an issue by the way asks if is also a game So why did we say there's a fourth? What about the but either way [snorts] says okay we're getting there albe it very slowly. What is the He's telling me the ship of all the affforementioned is like the What is the pirate? It's if there's enough that if your nail would go across it, it would get stuck. That's what the would ask you. I have a says a different sounds like it's a different says the one that says is talking about it's referring to the sid the lime that covered the that we said that's talking about the actual stones of the so the stones of the and as it relates to these two things they're actually not one and the same. It's not the identical share either way. So this last discussed uh high level with regards to said and then we said a it's the and what's the really two we have the as it relates to the coating which is the and we have the as it relates to the one is and the other one is either aim with the first kumar that we don't we had like five different opinions in terms of how the badika sakin was I mean it sounds like it's not to putting it in water putting it under the sun doesn't it sound like really it should be ti whatever just emerged from the sun again that discuss is this another or is this all somehow consistent with what the previous was [snorts] So we mentioned that who opened up today's meant not just that you have to do because that's but that when you buy you have to give it to the said that if there's a butcher who does not show his we put him in that's nothing we make him lose his job for and not just that put out to say that all his flesh is straight and ple even though it sounds like there's right one is a little more harsh than the other in the event that we did afterwards and we found he's doing the right thing he's just violating the principle of showing it to why it's because we know one of the people that was put in sha was a person that's throughout so being that this person he's not really violating the laws of what he's violating is the that he's not giving the so therefore you get the properly you're going to put if however you find out afterwards that his was bad well that's easy yeah this is clearly not the right work for you additionally because let's be honest it might be a tra you know said that if his was found to not be a if his boss if the wasn't you know we Rashi says we take his and we shmear it with because if we're going to just make it into a okay so at least his dogs are going to be wellfed right what we do is we make it disgusting we do something to it that will cause even to be from it and as a result he's going to be punished so again it's rather hell that at the very least will allow from Whereas Rava says, "I disagree. I don't even think it can have enough a story, a postcript who there was a butcher who didn't check his meaning he didn't show it to was the prevailing rabbi. He was the and he was the one that was inspecting the knives of all the butchers. And this one didn't give his knife to soak and he removed him from his job and he said that his boss is right did everything but put the on top of the buser. >> [snorts] >> In the meantime, actually came to visit. He told them I knew Ma. He says, you know, they I feel a little bit bad about what I did. You know why? Cuz I found out that he has a he has a whole family that he's supporting. My I caused this guy to lose his parnosa because he wasn't being me properly. Like in a way, I feel bad. Maybe there's some sort of soar says but went he was and he saw it was good and he said oh based on that it's going to be what's the methodology the methodology is because in as much as there is an idea that if [snorts] there's a a that doesn't show the that but we already said that that's only true if we found out that there was something wrong with the well apparently never did because Raashi did and he found that the knife was good. So Raashi sort of took the position that went a little overboard and as a result he said you know what we could be mur because at the end of the day at the end of the day the only thing this person did was is he violated giving the proper to so put him in that's fine but at the same time the will eventually be and he's going to have a partn so we can maintain his reputation he'll be able to support his children but the mazucha turned How do you have a right to do that? How do you have a right to go ahead and now say it's told he told me to look into it? I don't know what you want from me. Says I'm not making this up. Said look into it a little bit. What did he mean? HE THEN TRIED TO BE TRIED to come up with an so he was able to come up with an but the bottom is what you see from here is that speaks this out was of the opinion that really any butcher that's even if we find out afterwards that was good still it's gi meaning when we started the said because everybody agreed agrees that if the sake ends up being good, it's only everybody agrees. It's not good. He has to find another job clearly didn't hold that way cuz had not checked the and the only thing that he knew for a fact this person was violating was he wasn't giving him the proper and he went ahead he put him in that's fine but in addition was said really in the of the was a third at the end of the day was overriting it and he says no there's a ple that's pit that you have to do something he violated your covet But he doesn't have to lose his job because in the fact he didn't show it to the the only time it would be warranted for him to lose his job is in the event that he actually was using a bad sock says [snorts] detached tooth or a detached fingernail. So that's a long nail and a sharp tooth. But the bottom line is if you uh want to do with that that's something you could do has like Malikica vibes right says we learned what so what's the right [laughter] as relates to the in chain said you could check with the said you can with that's not you could say very simply said in the singular the Mishna said maybe there's a difference you want to do maybe one you can have more control over that's going to be okay two is already going to be an issue like as relates to then you can't say that why because said in the singular and the didn't say it said also in the singular so it's not going to work but there too you can answer Rauna said as opposed to that's attached is not going to be okay. By the way, once you say, you could probably answer Shane that way also. But Shane, you didn't have to come on to that. He said Shane, he said it's from that it's to say this distinction and that is there's a difference between whether it's or whether it's moving along. If somebody goes ahead and he shacks with a cut was one of the things that the previous men had mentioned is in the small group of exceptions of things you're not allowed with right few things one of them was the mager that's the harvest sickle stating that's up to Mishna what would be if somebody shs with a magic say he was but he wasn't maybe so we saw this writing yesterday not every time did you have to for example, you could be without being but either way somebody was only going to be say it's going to be kasha. Why is it going to be kasher? The reason is because the way the magle cuts are is shaped is all the notches are on a diagonal which causes all the sharp points that the notches created to be facing downwards. So if you're you're not going to make any contact with those edges. It's when you're maybe that's when you're going to so nothing happened stating that maybe was always in this case as well. What would be if somebody went the butch went and he was like he smoothed out all these edges. Everybody holds like a sake that's for sure going to be okay eating even though you see we're sensitive to the magal cutser still mager right you take it out of your farming toolkit doesn't matter at the end of the day there are words it's going to be okay even if it has the edges as long as you bashi doesn't like that but does agree if you smooth out the edges even though it's a cutser still it's going to be fine said that it's all they said was it's not gonna have meaning they didn't mean that you could even eat it I'm worried about that it's not an assh right from the said it didn't Hey [snorts] would say you're allowed to eat it means it's what does means it's it's not kosher really mean it's not would mean it's not next according to you this I don't hear so much because will say I think it's all one and the same and as a result I don't think that there's a to be had. So again if you want to say it great and said it who are we to argue but to say I hear that really it could have said but if right it should have said is somewhere in between right it's somewhere in between and if anything sounds a little bit more like or sounds a little more like a little less like moving along without coming up for breath. No shah. So as it relates to the next so now we're really getting into the process of if you think about it up until now it was the mi and it was when can you do? What type of animals require? What type of knives can [snorts] one use for? Right? Can you pull out your chainsaw? Right? All these different that we've been discussing up until this point. Now we're up to the next part of the story of and that is the actual. So we know there are five that govern. The first one that's going to be discussed right now is what's known as hagma. So what exactly [snorts] is hagma? Soita had to be done on the ka and the vash [snorts] stating that not the entire ka and not the entire vet will caut. So you can get the k and the vet right and you can actually get everything else RIGHT AS WELL. BUT IF it's in the wrong place, the location location within the and the vet is not where it's supposed to be, that in and of itself could end up being an issue. If somebody the animal on the again, you got everything right. The problem was it was in the wrong of the that's going to be an issue. There's another part and that is the law of GMA states that it's not even enough that if you did the part of the in the right place could be it's not even enough if you did of the in the right place you may actually have to get the entire in the right place in order for it to be okay as we'll see it's a major so again really at its core defines the in the that had to take place. Now, naturally, the muck is going to have a high point and a low point, right? How high up the kashet can one go or not go? And how low on the k and the vashet can one go and not go. Naturally speaking, it's going to be, you know, how high and how low, right? That goes without saying. That's what the definition of hagr is going to be. Our Mishna, as we're going to see, is only going to discuss the high watermark. As far as the low watermark, it's not discussed. It's a discussion amongst the Talmud. Why is it that we only discuss the high part and not the low part? As a matter of fact, it's not going to be discussed in this Mishna. It's not going to be discussed in a later Mishna either. It's going to be discussed a little in the but it's not going to be discussed in the actual Mishna. And it seems like it was so pushet to the exactly what that was that it was something that didn't even have to be said. So again, we're going to introduce the laws of a but it's going to be done in a not such systematic way. You would have thought I'm going to tell you the low part and the high part as we're about to see that's really not the way it's going to be. Now we need a tiny bit of background as it relates to the anatomy and physiology of the animal in order to get this right. We're going to be focusing right now on the ka which is also an interesting point. We don't even mention the hagrrama of the vashik. It's fascinating right? So we're discussing only the hagama of the kana and only the high part. How high is considered okay and how high would already be considered too high. So what we need to know is as follows. The ka was surrounded by tissue and cartilage just the physical nature of the ka was surrounded. Now these cartilage that surrounded the kana is what the gimar refers to as tab. The reason they're referred to as tabois because they were rings. Okay. The tabos that went all along the trachea the ka were tab that didn't cover the entire ka important in terms of understanding the gumar. So it covered most of it as we'll see but it didn't cover it 100%. So if you want to visualize it visualize it like a horseshoe. A horseshoe is a ring that almost closes but doesn't close 100%. On the top of the ka there was one tabass that's referred to as the tabas the grace of tabass and that tabass was number one thicker than the other tabos. [snorts] Additionally it also covered the entire k on top of the tabas if you have a picture this is very helpful. There was what the gumar is going to refer to as the ka. The gumar is going to refer to this as the helmet. He's going to refer to it as the hat. And this hat was shaped as being slanty on all sides and it slopes upwards until it gets to the top which is the it has this little uh spitz like a hash this ka that's how it's going to end up being on the top. The bottom line is I think this is uh already baltov in terms of trying to fake it. the [laughter] if you have a presentation you can watch I highly recommend that but the re bottom line is this is just a little bit of an understanding of exactly how this went and without any further introductions of the hillish if somebody from within the or really what it means is if somebody inside the ideas are referring to that big tabas that goes around the entire ka that's on the top of the tracheo the and you left over a little bit meaning you didn't color out of the lines you didn't cut outside of the what was on top of the we mentioned there was a ka so you didn't go into the ka you didn't actually go into the hat so you left over so there's one little piece of the that still covers the entire circumference of the right you still have that intact because there's a little bit of leftover. You didn't cut through the entire thing. You left a little bit of of it is going to be kasha. Clearly implying by the way that if somebody would cut through it even a little bit now you went a little bit too high. So you have to leave a tiny bit of the top of the in order for the to be a that's hag defines the muck of the again how high how low. We said not talking about how low not even talking about the vet. We're just talking about how high on the ka you want to know. You got to leave over a little bit of the but if you don't leave over a little bit of it's not going to be okay. And by the way this is the if you would do it there but you would just cut a little bit that means part of the went so you don't have a a little bit ala why because a tiny bit went there. I don't care a tiny bit 98% of it was UNDERNEATH IT. THERE WAS ONE LITTLE NICK THAT I GOT AND that's a problem because says according to the first sheet in the Mishna that the entire business the entire has to be done in the right place. He said he said that no in the event that you got most of it in the right place even if you ended up getting a little bit on top meaning you were only Misha alba. Why is it only alpine ruba? because some of the ka that severed was severed in that area. It doesn't bother me because as long as of what had to happen was in the right place that in of itself is going to be okay. In other words, at first glance, the is between the and is what would be if somebody got of the in a way where he conformed with but there was a meat of it that he did not get in the right place. Would that be okay or would that not be okay? according to the of the Mishna if but if it's not even if it's not going to be okay that itself is going to be okay another thing that you see in the Mishna and that is what's the high watermark what's the highest your on the highest is the that's the highest but once you cut through the you already went too high the Mishna was where I got in the right place I only got a little bit above that. Is that an issue? Is that not an issue? Say yes, it's an issue says as long as it was done in the right place. That in it of itself is going to be okay both said right. So whenever says something you pause whenever says something you pause. If it's you do a whole double take. So is like even though he's a thought is actually like says when he said his he said that it's going to be okay if you because as we mentioned in The introduction to this Mishna covers the entire but let's say the would have been done in one of the other in that instance it wouldn't be okay. So what's being so let's just touch the words what he's saying is that even holds that the if it's on this cartilage in the event that it's but if it's one of the lower that not the entire in that instance it's not going to be okay. Now what's to do with anything like why would you think holds it is good it's not good like why is this even a discussion even was only the have to do with the is if I got in the right place do we say do we not say and you know what the high watermark is it's the top of the now the low part I don't never discuss the low part and what who did tell you in the would have made you think that maybe one of the other is going to be okay and like why do you even have to say this I'm going to tell you why cuz what's the what's the essence of when it comes to if what he's saying is rub you could think that if you would check on one of those tabos that only cover of the ka that would be a proper moita cuz even though you didn't she in an area that technically is the entire ka cuz it's just something that's encircling most of it but if the of so maybe that in of itself would be okay that's why felt the necessity to speak this out that even that said what he only meant it that in the event that you did it IN A MIM AT and only if it was in that mock even if you colored out of the lines as it relates to that last little piece but if the was done in an area THAT ONLY COVERS RUBIK THAT ALREADY IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENCE that's why Raban felt that they had to speak this so Raban essentially just said that there would have been aud holds that if you one of the other tabos being that they cover ruba you say ruba kakula that in itself would be okay rammool needed to make it very clear that's not the case but the says is that in fact true meaning what's going to emerge now is that that had that would hold based on that if you one of the other it's going to be okay is actually maybe a reality you ready the punch lines the first If somebody one of these other cartilages, one of these other rings, even though it doesn't encircle the entire being that it's most of it is going to be now, we're going to finish the BRCA, but really that's the extends the concept of to these other as well. But again, let's finish the BRA first. M is going to be possible. So what does this mean? In the event that most of the was done in the right place but only part of the was done in the wrong place that in of itself would be okay. Rashi says if that's what mug means then you have to say this is not talking. It's the rabbon of our clearly holds and then finally there's even a third opinion mentioned over here in this Antiggnos said as it relates to the it's going to in the course of the have a little bit of a discussion what exactly means but for now let's stay focused and that is both started off they said I want you to know two things number one is like the other thing I want you to know is that even though the to think that just like holds that if is in the right place the little bit that's in the wrong place is fine based on but as it relates to in a mim him that encircles only rub of the you're not going to say that's the two members that ram say number one is like now that you know it's I need to clarify that only said is as it relates to where the was done in the but if you're going to one of the other then already it's not going to be okay by the way I just want to be clear according to raven in rahuda If the person would she in between the tabos that would also be fine because the area that's in between the tabo is the itself and if you check on the it's fine right you shouldn't walk away from this thinking rash speaks this out that according to you have to you don't have to there's a low water mark too he's just coming that it only covers you wouldn't have thought it isn't that but the bottom line is said it's up Now we'll get to the next part of but now that in itself you have to say really said two things are not denying that said that works Even for the tabas that only covers of the if that's the case what did mean when they said that we don't like that I like if you colored out of the lines but in terms of if you did on that already is not going to be okay but the says not ram said right it didn't feel right if you look back at the right that's not what he says You gota do a little edit where came from as he very famously did. So he went and he ate. What does this mean? So Rashi says this is talking about he ate from an animal where there was a that was done on one of the tabos not the one of the other only covered most of it [snorts] which was something that in the world of it violated the principle of because they hold in that case. So is going and he's being like said that even though it's only with regards to but as they were already not so the says I'm relay so the turn to ask don't you come from Raven so if you're from Raven how could you uh go ahead and go not like Raven right you're coming from a place where the is to follow this memory of that is not like it's how you're going ahead and you're being by the way this is another where is getting caught up in right refer back to the three in the beginning of the but the bottom line is so they told him don't you come from honestly he told him not he said one second this that ram quote unquote said that in as relates to the did not tell me who's about mera. So they told him more popularly known as Rav. So the says told him he has from everybody you know he's a big m he was ai right but it comes with an invoice and that is sometimes he knows prices and things that are not 100% he's not a bar when it comes to this. So the say word trickled back to got wind of this by this. So somebody pedal back this but he got angry says what I get my from everybody and you know whoa was he was in his if he had a suffic who the person is in that he was saying over he would mention both I'll give you an example I'm there three when it comes to the but the bottom line is but what do you see from me that he was so modactic I come from he was but he was very disappointed about what happened but the asks aasha so again comes and he sits down he's going to eat a suda and what's the suda that he eats the suda that he eats is it's mug raishm looking at what are you doing? How could you EVEN RA SAYS AH this this whole rabbit comes from he's not about okay but the wherever he's coming from but the bottom line is but they said okay I I hear but the says I still don't understand because you see from the reaction of the that the minigan bubble was to follow this now you want to tell me it was ara that was based on a flawed ms from but said there's something called Makagu, right? There's something called a minig. So the gam says at the end OF THE DAY YOU CAME from a place where the minig was to be and by the way let's explain this a drop better it sounds a little bit from the gum that zer when he was in maybe or when he was in b he maybe didn't eat mug but now he came down ah he felt like a free man I'm not to this anymore right but the says of the mid was not to eat and the assuming himself probably didn't eat that now he's not it's not true he is it's the one of the most famous that somebody goes from a go this way to going that way so the is so he came from a place when they were should have been said you know when that was said that This is talking about when somebody goes above or even being right there was a more authoritative they were able to pass. So over there it's already going to be different a different could be even when a person goes from you still have to keep and maintain the of the but was not planning but that's only true if the person plans on coming back was not planning on coming back and being was not planning on coming back so as it relates to this was something that was not neg by the way this gamura feels like a good sushel to that's in it goes terra you keep one day two days it is a good right this is very much the when we learn we did a whole raid bite on this junk but either way one last piece told that came from said that said in the name of that G is actually kasha. So what's the kasha? The kasha is that the assumed for pasha that in bl the mig was that people did not eat the mug of ram this mug of rab right people were mm in that the question was comes ter he's a free man he's allowed to eat it like what happened over here like what so the gave different toen but the gumar says told I don't even think that's true cuz I heard that rau came from and they said that zer himself said nman that McGre is cher it sounds like was mas was mas that should undermine this whole discussion should have said or the should have defended no he came from a place where mis was actually treated as being okay told this is an expression that you find different rivers flow different ways meaning was not all created equally there were places in bubble where they were a little bit more uh there were places in bubble they were a little bit more makeel we're going to stop here will pick this up tomorrow we're still middle of the technicalities. Tomorrow's DAFF will start off with a little bit of a a recap which will segue into the next part. some heavy lumbus in tomorrow's daf as well as we are going to see but as it relates to raid stopping this a little bit abruptly and really going back to the portion of yesterday's d and that is the epic between and let's just set this [snorts] up a little bit we mention that there areim in par this is in pericute tucked away that describe telling the when you're going to come to Israel you're going to want to eat bas stating that you have to also make sure you don't eat you can eat a also recognize it's only true for as it relates to that already you're going to have to bring to the mikd and if you do that that's basically What tells the now it would seem to suggest that before the yidden came direct there was something in this par that was really off limits and there was a major what that was raish said I understand reading the simplest translation of these words and these that what the is saying is that until the camel if somebody wanted to eat meat just because he wanted a piece of meat it would not have been okay but was during the 40 years that the was when they came that it became said that's untenable for sure when they were in the midbar. Okay. What's the is that when they win the midw they wanted you can go hunting but here now already you have to conform with the laws of say according to there was an is 40 years in the which became when they came to according to there was a head of during the 40 years that and when they came now all of a sudden became we also saw very much in yesterday's daf that the gum said that in as much as Rabish holds there was an isba but it was only with regards to baser an animal that was able to be brought on but the in the for example the we mentioned in the post game yesterday any animal that wasn't actually put on the misb that you were allowed to eat also qualified that as much as hold that you allowed that was only true as it relates to but catch learn etc. So over there there was going to be it was just as it relates to as it relates to there there was that you allowed to eat. Another thing we mentioned very much yesterday was that this has ramifications how to learn the parish of we know there's a parish of and then there's a parish of this is 101 etc. And I think a 100 out of 100 times a learns the parish of and he looks at [laughter] it's a parish stating that and really all the say that in the world of short to say that that parish of is actually not unique to there is an Indian maybe oft but the parish is because even by there was an iso and IT COULD BE THAT EXTENDED ITSELF. up to that if somebody would even say I prefer this and he says that all the and therefore here [laughter] the goes and he's like that it's not even dealing with but rather what it's dealing with is what it's dealing with is an is and if a person would go ahead and do that he would be we mentioned yesterday in the end of where learns like but even in world the learn is talking about because even who held that theight of it is that if you want to eat it has to be because the only time you're allowed to is in the way this is some of the we spoke about yesterday we mentioned from the what would be the beer period and that it's the says that's what the says and that is a reason maybe not only but not even and if this is an you understand why it's something that would carry with it this harsh punishment of again there's so much to be on this but again a very very short recap of some of the raid that we spoke about yesterday but as it relates to today I think it's to have a little bit of fun as it relates to raid specifically from the base medish of the mashma in paras This is emperic. He brings that also we've spoken about so many times over the years and it's said over in the name of the it's in the beginning of but the said that we know that the only time a person was allowed to go into the even then it was only it was the holiest person on the holiest it said the goen that it's not true it's a misnomer Because in reality if wanted to enter the he was able to enter it any day of the year as long as he followed this that was mandatory to be done he was able to go whenever it is that he wanted to go we've mentioned that in the back of was written on was written on in the back of he has a little kress that he wrote his son that died prematurely he named named him son's name was Mo and he brought seven rias from to this of his which really is and that is that if for those 40 years wanted to enter the on a regular Tuesday he could as long as he followed the has a whole on THIS AND HE SAYS WHAT'S the pmius of it like what would be the reason why is it that for all the generations the was only able to go one day a year but when the were in the then he can go whenever he wanted says we know from the the first that was for what it was in fact everything other than the pretty much was for different permutations and v variables in the world of mikades it's talking to say that ordinarily was not something that was so wasn't so as a result one day a year. But when the were 40 years in the midbar, we know is that there was an isata that was anytime a person wanted a state dinner, you know what he had to do? HE HAD TO BRING A CARBON AND THE BOS THAT HE WAS EATING WAS ALWAYS SO HE SAYS IT'S [laughter] which means there was more and there was more being that you had more you needed more opportunities TO GET YOU COULDN'T RELY on doing it once a year that's why when the were 40 years in the midbar there was a sus for to enter more often By him doing that there would be more opportunities for the to be able to get that's the first second this is this is a that we mentioned recently a few times the last and we had it here in the beginning of as well if you're going to bring a carbon you should bring what does mean but says why does the say this only by the it doesn't say by any other car but make sure you bring it by the we say make sure you bring says cuz what is means you should do it wholeheartedly when you bring a carbon you shouldn't be bringing it you should be doing it 100% the way you want to in fact if you take a look at Evan Ezra right in the beginning of so the say and It's really based on that famous but the point is that when we talk about bringing a carbon what it means is you want 100% to bring the carbon he says anytime a person brought a carbon he was probably bringing a bar why else bringing the carbon he said but in the 40 years of midbar the were not let a tifa which means if I want a steak dinner there's only one way I could do it I have to bring a carbon says it's that maybe when he's bringing this carbon he's Not really bringing it because he wants to. HE'S BRINGING A BINUS. WHAT'S THE I HAVE NO CHOICE. BUT REALLY, I JUST WANT TO ORDER A STEAK TO GO. I WANT A PASTRAMI ON A RIDE. THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANT WITH A PICKLE AND MUSTARD. I'M NOT INTERESTED RIGHT NOW IN BRINGING a carbon. That's why by the I know what you might be thinking. It's a singlan, right? We mentioned that dick in the par of yesterday because the schlumman served a dual purpose 40 years in the midbar. It was the way you had a STEAK DINNER. SO YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT maybe you're not going to have the PROPER that's why the says another says there were three things that were very difficult for pointed to these three things and then he understood Those were the three things. How do you know it? and him because it says there are those that say because the says why is it that this says learned that it was to do [snorts] and that had to show him how to from which the by the way is it's from the carbon why was taught by the carbon it was always to have to know how to do why is the who SO WE WAS IN ONLY THAT'S WHY it's talked when we're dealing with we Aren't you eating meat every day? Yeah. Aren't you eating the Slav? Yeah, we've been eating the Slav, but uh we've been shooting it out of the sky. That's how we've been doing it. Old school. But uh in terms of We've never done a Now you're telling me there's something called Willita to me in the the carbon the the carbon of all the carbonas. Oh, that's a like said shiny shiny. That's why I grab the saw the in right here on this P. He says exactly where and he actually makes a a second level because who's the first and the he makes and he has a slightly different staying in the world. [clears throat] Either way, so far we did three, right? First one was in par with regards to the why was able to enter whenever he wanted to enter. The second one was parad has to say as it relates to the carbon and the third one was the one that we just mentioned this is in world why the that was how to do the is something that was mentioned by the all the it should have been a gay already by the ter is because then already was but I want to mention a fourth and this one is a dot longer but It's classic Benocial classic and this is in par it's based the says makes a deal and that is that the Torah mentions twice this idea that the carbon should be it mentions and then it says it Why is it that the first time it mentioned the carbon should be and the second time it says means that should be it's in the same peri the second time the dogish is on We know that is that although there's something called when it comes to but at the same time the says so if somebody brings a carbon and he has a a different carbon that's but if somebody would be >> [snorts] >> being that that's not that's the over there wouldn't be a problem stating that the If somebody checks the carbon says there's one exception to this rule that's the carbon if somebody would check the carbon and he would have it in mind would be possible how do I know that and the question says why is it that the carbon is different and even in the carbon the [laughter] it sounds like it's only the carbon And look at the envel that talks about THE what's the reason for it why would it be that the carbon pes would be different and why within the world of the carbon would be the carbon says take a look what I wrote in my my right here in par and if you take a look at over there he says he says what's Why is it that if somebody has a it's not considered a he said the reason is because in order for to pass the has to be has to have to have he says if somebody is going to go ahead and have a that has nothing to do whatsoever with what it is you're doing it's not going to have the ability to have any impact. So it says that's if somebody would do a pick your car and you would have in mind of course it wouldn't be because there's no when it comes to the only place it would even be there's one place in the whole world that would be but let's be honest as much as we know but they're not one and the same because to And is to be also to be to be able to go. SO EVEN it's not going to be okay. Everybody knows that there's one carbon in the world that's different than all the other carbon. There's one carbon in the world where the of the carbon is not the carbon is and that's the carbon. That's why the carbon say and that's why by the carbon someone that's can't be part of a carbon p and that's why even if you have a you don't have a bus you can't bring the carbon and that's why there's something called that you have in THAT YOU DON'T THERE'S 100 to this is that we spoke about countless times when we learn but the bottom line is this is 101 that it's fundamentally different than all the other carbon all GRAVITY IS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE and that's why the said that in the minister never counted any of the as a separate mitzvah with the EXCEPTION OF IT'S THE six mitzvah in the world of [laughter] it's a special mitzvah in the world of the is because there is different when it comes to the of the carbon when it comes to the of the carbon p that is really very similar >> [snorts] >> because coming to be and this although it's not EXCLUSIVELY COMING TO BE BUT THEOR IS COMING TO BE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE where has to what it is you're doing that's why said that this is the one place in the world where is actually going to passel the carvin this is where says in our and he tells you to look at in his over here Now that I want to say that it could be during the 40 years that the midbar during that kufa we know holds that they were allowed to eat basic like that means during that kufa they were allowed to eat. Was there no? Of course there was kacham shiny. There was dapka in the world of kutchin but during that kufa when a yid went and he did on a carbon that was very unique to kutchin because there WAS NO SUCH THING AS IN FACT YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED THERE AM YOU kus if you went ahead and if that's the case during that it was that if somebody would have gone ahead and he would have the carbon and he would have had a mindless no in the What is that? This is a a that's unique to Kachin and you're having a mind you're shacking an animal which by the way not even allowed to do but that would be the equivalent of pulling a putting a bullet BETWEEN ITS EYES THAT would have no if that's case during that would be when it says in theor of days it talking about the how to bring Yeah. Has to beem like two people could eat the carbon. One eats of and the other person eats WHICH SAYS IS TELLING YOU WHAT IS NOT GOING TO BE OKAY. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT'S THEY HAVE LIKE ALL THE OTHER THEY HAVE EVEN BY THE CARBON but if you look before you're going to go there [laughter] and you're going to prophes and then you're going to bring the carbon. Oh now already you're living in where there is that you're living already inf wanted to say it's the it's the oh now we're ready now we're ready that's where it's the no of because there was no where's the that's something that was when the came before it's in the it's then it's already said over here but what emerges from this is really but what emerges is the and that is that shifted fundamentally in the world of Rabaka from when the yidden were in uh midbar to when the yan came in terra the definition of was very different because when the yidden w the midbar the only that you had was aita that was shiny but when the yen came into now all of a sudden every required this became a very different iss you'll find this with and that is we This is Kachchum 101 brings in the name of the re mayor linish also known as the re of Orleans but the mayor lin said that why is it that it's because the reason you're doing the is part and parcel because you want going to want to eat the baser and the only time you can eat the ber is if you do a if that's the case there's mockim to say that the only time you're going to say that he was only once came but when the midbar before they came in at that point was very much yes in so in terms of understanding the shift and the move in the world of that's how fundamental it is the which is very much this is something that was when came into before they came into notes I saw in this room from all the scenes Flighter from Pittsburgh in other places they quote different from different that said this that according to was not true when the were in the mid because then the only had I was who I saw at the piris the surk Rab Hamburger de Maram and Rome Shapiro the founder of some of this is very raidworthy and maybe talk about in one of the coming days but the bottom line is this is that the and the spanned everywhere from VNA to Poland and everything in between where the all took out this and the world again this is just four mesh because uh why not and it's So, but again there's so much raid that comes out.