Chulin 22

Today's stuff is holding off half base. We are at the Mishnah eight lines from the bottom of half base amud off. Today's stuff is being learned as a source of Shlema for Eliezer Yeshaya ben Bracha. Today's stuff is also being learned for nishmas Zissel bas Reb Shmuel Halevi. So, we're moving along in the first perek of meseches Chullin and we're in the middle bit of a digression. Now, the last few dafin might have felt a little bit like a digression. Not so much. We dealt with halachas of melika. Melika is very much meinyan meinyan but it's the inyan of treifa. In fact, anything that's kosher treifa is possible melika. Anything that's kosher by melika is possible by treifa. But, in reality, what we did was hack a a digression because we went all in on melika. Regardless, in today's stuff, it's going to be a little bit more clear that we're digressing. By tomorrow's stuff and the stuff after that, we're going to wonder how in the world we got to where we got. We've been learning hackle treifa. We've been pretty much on point. Very focused good rekos from the beginning of the mesechta. But, the mishnayos are going to do what they occasionally do. The Gemara always does this. >> [snorts] >> In the mishnah, it's a little bit more rare and we're going to talk more today about halachas related to the chata of and the oil of chata. In fact, if you look at the chata, they explain that the mishnah we're about to learn is really related to that last line of the previous mishnah. Anything that's kosher by treifa is possible by melika. Anything that's kosher by melika is possible by treifa. And on that note, Dr. Mishnah, kosher by treifa possible so we know that a carbon can be brought as a bird it can be brought as an the Torah says very clearly not all birds are kosher be brought on the not even all kosher birds are kosher to be brought on the there are two birds specifically that are okay the and the in English if this is helpful turtle doves Tyron and young doves so clearly they both have the safer of doves so I guess they're related somewhat but it's the Tyron and the that are the two birds that are kosher says the mission rather cryptically kosher [snorts] possible kosher possible what does that even mean so anything that's considered kosher for a Tyron would by definition make it possible for a and the reverse would be true the right in the beginning is going to bring a price that's going to elaborate this a little bit we might as well just speak it out just to touch the words of the mission a Tyron had to be older the Tyron had to be younger the remiss Tyron means young contrast that with Tyron that it doesn't say so you get the sense that the Tyron are more mature and Tyron are less mature says the mission Tyron if the age the maturity level of this life is such that it's kosher for a Tyron well that means it's a little bit older so by definition possible and to the contrary if it's kosher that means based on its maturity level it's younger it's going to be possible mission continues and says what is that what does this mean so if you look at cuz you must be having to solve it [snorts] with that >> So at some point in the maturation of the if it develops a yellow so of as yellow a yellow feather that's yellow feather it's very nice and it's around [snorts] its neck so when it's in the state of but that will be a possible and the reason is it's been a smash it's it's it's too old for it to be considered but it's too young for it to be considered so there's this in between stage and that is in the world of what's known as it's neither here nor there and it's it's neither here nor there and it's for that reason going to be possible again we explain the mission really based on already preparing today's when you read the mission in real time you don't even know what the mission is saying question what exactly does this mean when it comes to the other way around they're and are going to be possible says the price is a perfect example of where the mission the price are saying the same thing or be it the price is and the mission is the Torah the last part of the price was verbatim the mission the mission however was very quick because it was missing the first part but the price of being wordier and lengthier has that first part as well another price now what's the contribution of this price again an example of we have the same exact that was disseminated in so many different ways the purpose of this price is going to give us not only the of the mission that we knew from the mission not only what the mission really means that we knew from the first price this next price is going to give us the sources as well. Tanura [snorts] bon and tirem it says in the tire tirem and we learn from there good tirem of a like tirem it means good tirem of a like tirem says the price of because had it not said tirem quote unquote that teaches me good tirem of a like tirem I would have thought that maybe tirem are good as well. Meaning even though it says tirem so based on that you would think it's good tirem of a like tirem but had it not said tirem I would have thought that you don't say good tirem of a like tirem. Why? Because I would have made a couple of them valid you know my you know should I big tirem big tirem which are not big tirem. How do we know that? So because it says but at the end of this long price we'll have a better understanding of this. So then that big tirem big tirem big tirem tirem big tirem tirem that are big in big tirem certainly you would think they should be big tirem that reason it says tirem and from there we learn good tirem the like tirem. Should make a price of you almost can't even read it. The price of says it says tirem and from tirem I know good tirem the like tirem. Why do I need tirem because really had it not said tirem I would have thought that if tirem means good tirem kind of like tirem should be okay based on because we know it's kind of like tirem so you know where good tirem is possible is certainly tirem with is kind of like should be oh my it says tirem to teach me good tirem of a like tirem. If tirem means good tirem of a like tirem so then what's the of the you know? >> [snorts] >> And what's the it says tirem but this would make sense if it said tirem and good tirem means good tirem but maybe not good tirem of a like tirem and based on the I would think to be more big tirem. Tell me a different word. So that's very good based on tirem I hear good tirem. Otherwise I have a couple of home to be married big time. Come on and tell me a different word that says no. And it's but that's not what we did over here. It's the same word so if in the have a minute of the price of time based on a couple of home and could be so good time as well, then what's the time of the way my time is in to tell me time of like time and so again, it sounds like the easiest price you could learn in this price in a second, but if you miss bone in for one minute, it's actually a moment and the is going to jump on this in a minute. Now the price goes and does the reverse with what does that mean time and the way you doing I would have thought that way they know had an answer which means time and the way you doing I would have made a couple of home and actually should be time and the way you doing the time and the way it's not time and the way you doing that that was the first part of the price of time and the way you doing yet should be time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing the time and the in the way you doing not only the little ones but the bigger ones as one time and the way you doing the time and the way you doing it says the way you doing the time and the way you doing again the same exact price it says the way you doing that means [clears throat] time and the way you doing think to be married big time as well. Time and the way you doing the way you doing the way you doing the way you doing the way you doing in the first part of the exchange even though the way you doing literally means time and maybe a couple of home and married big time time and the way you doing the way you doing means time and the way you doing the What exactly is going on? And that is the next question. I tell him what exactly is going on and my rubber rubber said, let me explain to you what's happening in this price. The deal of the time of the price of the words that way the time and the way you doing the way you doing the way you doing the The time and the way you doing all the time and the way you doing that talk about the time and the way you doing and they're married. He was married Shatru, and what he noticed was a fascinating observation. He said, "Every single time we refer to the Torah, we call them the Torah. And every single time we refer to the Yayin, we refer to it as the b'nei Yayin. You don't find one time that it says b'nei ha Torah, and it says the Yayin." It's from there that the Tanna chapped that when it says b'nei Yayin, b'nei Yayin is davka. Meaning, it's true the word b'nei Yayin means And based on the middos sh'atur in the drashos from the first one being the kal v'chomer, you could be marbeh d'eilam. But being that lo l'stam it k'av v'lichto, if there isn't one time where it doesn't say b'nei Yayin, so it's a shina k'asuv l'akeiv, already I think five times if you can. So based on all these different mentions of it, so at that point the Tanna says, you know, something ben Yayin must be davka. And that's the shakal v'tah. Now this explains the second part of the braysa, that b'nei Yayin k'tanim v'lo d'eilam. Why? Sh'yochal v'lo d'eino, maybe be marbeh d'eilam kal v'chomer from Torah tam v'lo b'nei Yayin five times, and from there I learn k'tanim v'lo d'eilam. Okay, so that's a good diyak to say that even though b'nei Yayin based on kal v'chomer it could be marbeh d'eilam, but at the end of the day no, b'nei Yayin, b'nei Yayin, b'nei Yayin, b'nei Yayin, b'nei Yayin is actually m'man. And that explains the safe of the braysa. That's the shakal v'tah. B'nei Yayin etzam could be marbeh d'eilam based on the kal v'chomer, but tam v'lo b'nei Yayin countless times. And it's based on that you have what you have, but you didn't explain yet the first part of the braysa. And the truth is, this diyak of b'nei Yayin is a very good diyak for this b'nei Yayin, but it's not such a good diyak for Torah. And the reason is because why if you wanted to describe Torah, and you wanted to tell me even young Torah are okay, would you have to say b'nei Torah? A Torah is a Torah is a Torah. The diyak is a Yayin. Why are you talking about b'nei Yisrael? Young doves as opposed to old doves? Yeah, oh, sure. I have myself a deak. Turtle doves. What age? I've no idea. What age? She you are allowed to eat me Sinai. I don't know. The deak is a deak of b'nei Yisrael. It's not a deak in Torah. So, we understand the second part of the bracha. We really don't understand so much the first part of the bracha. That's the Torah's follow up question. Aim of b'nei Yisrael is the k'sav Torah min b'nei by b'nei Yisrael where it says before the Torah min Torah like there it makes sense to say dafka Torah. Like them of Torah by Torah where it doesn't say anything out of the ordinary, right? Sure. K'saf eis Torah. Right, there's nothing out of the ordinary over here. There's no deak to be had. So, I would think over there by Torah min Sinai the Torah min Torah min Sinai. So, what's part of part of the first part of the bracha? Talmud Torah min Torah even if it says Torah five times, but there's no deak to be had. So, the Torah says I'll explain it to you. Do me of the b'nei Yisrael. One time of b'nei Yisrael is dafka and it says Torah min b'nei Yisrael. So, that's already a basis to say Torah min dafka as well. And b'nei Yisrael min Torah min Torah min Sinai. Of Torah min Torah min Torah min Sinai. And that is part of this bracha. Let's go over this bracha in light of the version 2.0 understanding it. Ton of it. Ton of taking the bracha from the top or really the bottom of the base of the mouth. It says Torah. Torah means Torah min Torah min Torah, right? Torah sounds like uh adults. Saying that I don't think you can make a grace of deak over here because she you have a deano because you would think based on the meat of the timer based on the meat of the timer you'd be the timer as well. How so? By b'nei Yisrael. She you should be the timer should be the timer to you should be the timer and then she you should be the timer. Talmud Torah min Torah. What? Torah min Torah min Torah min Torah. Here's the punchline. What's the Talmud Torah? Torah min The Talmud Torah min is that many times the Torah puts Torah min together with b'nei Yisrael. And for sure there's a deak in the many mentions of b'nei Yisrael that b'nei has to be kind of like the Yoyna. And if we juxtapose Tairum with the Yoyna, so the Yoyna's stuff could be kind of the Tairum is also going to be the top that's good the good Yoyna. So, you're right. Right out of the gate, Tairum sounds like Yoyna. And by the way, why does Tairum right out of the gate sound like Yoyna? Because it's next to the Yoyna, which means kind of but it's not enough of a mashma is to exclude kind of and forget based on Kal V'chomer, you would think to be marbeh. But it's because like the Sh'tam the K'rov L'choid, every single time B'nei Yoyna and the heckish, just the juxtaposition between Tairum and B'nei Yoyna. So, the Talmud Loymar of the Tairum next to the B'nei Yoyna and the repetitive mentions of B'nei Yoyna, B'nei Yoyna, B'nei Yoyna, that's how I know the Tairum doesn't just mean G'dolim, it actually means G'dolim like Tairum and it's actually so powerful that the end that it overrides even a Kal V'chomer. Continuing the B'reisa, B'nei Yoyna K'tanim V'lo G'dolim. Okay, does that mean the like G'dolim should have a like din or what Tairum should have a like din? B'nei Yoyna should have a like din and should have a like din. So, even though B'nei Yoyna sounds like Tairum, but does that say that I can't be marbeh G'dolim as well? Yes, Talmud Loymar says B'nei Yoyna K'tanim V'lo G'dolim and what does it mean B'nei Yoyna again? Like the Sh'tam the K'rov L'choid me B'nei Tairum um B'nei Yoyna and because it says B'nei Yoyna so many times, I know B'nei Yoyna means K'tanim dafka V'lo G'dolim. Now, the truth is if you were going to set up this B'reisa in a methodical way, right? If we had a vote, which of course we don't, but if we did, you would almost think that the B'nei Yoyna part of the B'reisa should be mentioned before the Tairum part of the B'reisa because the Talmud Loymar Tairum of the reisha of the B'reisa is really coming off the heels of the Talmud Loymar B'nei Yoyna of the seifa of the B'reisa. That's true, the ma'aseh Tairum are mentioned always before the B'nei Yoyna in the Tairum and And they're mentioned first in the tyro, so the price it did what it did. It just adds a little layer of uh a mailus that we need to go through in order to understand the brisa, but there's nothing more gishmak than going through a brisa, tearing it apart a little bit, even >> [clears throat] >> pshuta as well mikra dik. And on that note, another brisa. Tanna Rabbanan, Yochu Yuchu kol ha tehorim bnei yonah kesheirim. You would think that all tehorim bnei yonah should be kosher. Tam ud leimar, it says min ha tehorim. And from there we learn v'loi kol ha tehorim min bnei ha yonah v'loi kol bnei ha yonah. What's this coming to exclude? Prat l'chilas ha tziuv sheb'zeh v'sheb'zeh shepasul. It's coming to be m'mait what the mishna had mentioned in the last line, and that is when it's in this in-between state where it's b'chilas ha tziuv, where you have the feather around the neck of the oyf, which is yocher Rashi says, and it's yellowish. So that stage of tziuv, that's going to be possible. Meimsa tehorim kesheirim. Says the brisa, when do tehorim become kosher? Min tziuv ha tziuv means it's too young for the tar. So at some point now it's going to be okay. How would you notice that? Mishe yazivu. So it goes from being in a state of tziuv, which is yellow, to zihuv, which is gold. Gold is a lot more kosher. In fact, if you look at Rashi, Rashi dibra maskil mishe yazivu sheyehei kanfei gufon gedolim the feathers of its guf should be big v'adumim and red umas zivim and gold k'zahav, literally like gold. So when it's at that state, now it's already more mature. Meimsa bnei yonah pesulin. And at what point do we say that bnei yonah are going to be pasul? Meaning, when are they too old? That's easy, mishe yazivu. Right? That's the mishna. That's just repetitive. We're just mentioning it agav meimsa tehorim kesheirim, which was not something that the mishna mentioned. It wasn't something that this brisa mentioned either. Another brisa. Tani Yaakov Korcha. Yakov Korcha said over the following brysa, "When do bnei Yona become kosher?" When do bnei Yona become kosher? So, what do you mean when do bnei Yona become kosher? I thought they're born kosher. They're not. They're not born kosher. Even the bnei Yona, like the little uh birds, even them, they have to be of a certain maturity in order for them to be kosher. What is that? And the short answer is "Mishaya alu." Now, Yakov Korcha when he said over this brysa knew everybody was going to ask the same question. What in the world does Mishaya alu mean? So, who told me love who immediately preempted the brysa and said, "Let me explain to you what I the world I meant." I was uh saying over a brysa that's really working off a pasuk in Eif Lamed Tes Lamed. It says here it's talking about the eagle. And what it means over there is is the they swallow blood. So, bird walks in the field and he sees the dam of a treifa, so what's he going to do? He's going to eat that blood, suck the blood, right? So, as soon as the bird is at an age that it has no problem eating the blood off the pnei hasadeh, at that point it's already considered old enough to be a bnei Yona. Says the Amora, "Is there like a way to know this? Or you have to observe the birds and wait until you actually see any two of them? Right? Like how does this work exactly?" It's actually a siman in the book of the Yona to know when it's already doing this. If you got from me pull a feather out of it and [snorts] it's going to stop bleeding, that means it's of the stage already Mishaya alu. And at that point it's going to be old enough. Wait, say it again anybody. Somebody says I want to bring a carbon and the carbon I want should be an oila and it should be an oila soif. And he says that, you know, I'm not sure I haven't up my mind yet. I'm going to bring it either from Those are two good choices cuz those are the two only choices you have. So, he says I'm going to bring it either from They have and then he went ahead and he brought either chapter He ended up bringing two. He brought a and he brought which he didn't have to. But, he went ahead and he brought two and both of them were in this in-between stage where they were What's the law? Such a good What are the two Again, we know the if it's is possible. Why? It's too young. We know the if it's is possible. Why? Cuz it's too old. So, if you said and you brought that's a I realize What you said was other other and you only have to bring one. What you did was you brought two and they're both in the state of Yeah. What's the So, explain. Is the reason that is possible we have a it's a we So, we're not sure if right now it's old or it's young. Well, then it's either old or it's young. So, either the is kosher or the is kosher. If that's the case, then we're not It could be when it's in the state of it's a It's like an in-between stage. Right? When it comes to an issue, this and and Right? Three different So, it could be there's like this in-between stage. is not so so and the is right? Just in terms of you see she she's not a yet. So, there's this concept of where you can be in this in-between state. If it's a barrier, means it's talking not old, it's talking not young. And based on definitely nothing, you're not going to be able to in this case either. My rubber rubber said touch my bring you a right from the price we just mentioned a second ago. Because the prices said that how do you know Trillo Sazio is an issue? It's only done from a possum. It says men have to him or men been a young man. And from the word men, we may might probably Trillo Sazio shall be shall be shall possum now says or rather e I'm going to push my barrier have a push life you're going to tell me Trillo Sazio is a barrier we know what it is. We know what it is. There's no traffic. We know exactly what it is. So shopper, I understand why the Torah had to tell me that you should know that this in between state is not God with not cotton and it's a meat in the world of Torah and it's a meat in the world of Ali Amitzvik. I have a briefing you're going to tell me that really it's a speaker. That means we don't know what it is. We have a topic but copy could you be copy Schmier Gallia it is. It's the problem with the speaker. You never find such a thing that a possum would go ahead and it would be my a topic. I can't if any of the Torah would tell you how to treat Trillo Sazio. It's kosher for the Torah or it's kosher for the Ben Yona but the Torah is not going to say, oh it's a problem for this cuz the topic is probably cuz the topic. Yeah, for us it's a topic. Right? For us it's by David because there's no speaker copy Schmier. So it doesn't make any sense that you would have a possum to go ahead and be my it be my it the speaker. So said rubber touch my I think I'm a foolish of the speaker is Schmier by you. There's no question in the world that you see from here that Trillo Sazio barrier have a not speaker have a most I get. The Gamora says it's not cuz I'll tell you that the words men have to him or men been a young man not coming to be my Trillo Sazio. In fact, here's the problem with a never the never coming to be my in life that was a never engaged in or never that was the subject of a week of Zora. But as it relates to as it relates to the halacha of trilos atzilos that you really do not need a possuk for. Okay, so what was pshat in that braysa? So Rashi the af gav the tanuk tanay bracha trilos atzilos. Top line of gimel amud aleph asmach d'alma. Really it's an asmach d'alma. Ula olam psulayu mishum sfeka. But really it's possible because of sfeka. The bottom line is if the drasha was a real drasha then that din would be checked me. And that's what Rava said. But the Gemara is doiche. The Gemara says Rava, we know a lot of drashos of Chazal are not real drashos. They're only asmach d'alma. If it's an asmach then you don't have a shaila and that's where the clerk had a shaila. Because R' Zeira probably knew this braysa. But at the same time even though he knew it he still felt that there was no hechrech 100% that it's a real bonafide drasha. To the extent it's not a real bonafide drasha, you have no makor. Either way, so what just came out? What do we really exclude from the words min ha Torah? Yeah, I know. It's lumute nirva and it's lumute neved. Right? You have two mins. One is coming to tell me nirva is excluded. One is coming to tell me neved is excluded. Now it's a little bit of a chiddush that you would need this. You know why it's a chiddush? Because we know already from right in the beginning of Vayikra min ha beheima, right? Min ha boker min ha tzon that we mamait a whole bunch of things. Rashi Chulish brings it. The Gemara has mentioned it several times in Zvachim and Menachos. And we know that we mamait from all those mins that talk about beheimos, that talk about zvachim, we mamait nirva, we mamait neved, we mamait other things as well. But the bottom line is why then would I need a new drasha min min to tell me that by an ayil a nirva and a neved is possul if I know it already by beheimos me? I'm just in the flow of the Gemara. Bishlama if min is coming to mamait trilos atzilos, ah, so it's very good. The Torah couldn't rely on all the mins it mentioned by shor kesiv vayis because what shor is has nothing to do with this. But if you're going to tell me that no, that's only an asmach d'alma. That's just the for good measure, but the real mute is never. And the real mute is never. Well, that I know already from Behemoth. So, there must be a reason that the Torah feels it needs to be reminded specifically of this and we can't just rely on what we know already from Behemoth and that's the last part of the Gemara. So, the Gemara says, you want to know why you would need a special direction and a special mute for never and never when it comes to this, I'll tell you. I still could have would have thought how it looks like being that it says in the Torah >> [snorts] >> regarding Behemoth. Kimashchosam Behemoth, Mumbam, and then there is a possuk is Lo Yirotzeh Lochem. So, [snorts] Kimashchosam Behemoth, Mumbam. The Torah in the name of Rabbi Shmuel and the sheep of Rabbi Shmuel, they talk about Kimashchosam. Wherever you find the word Hashchosam, Mashchosam is Miloshan Hashchosam and this Joshua. Wherever it says the word Hashchosam in the Yallah, Dvar Ervah, Avodah Zarah, it's always referring to Arayos and Avodah Zarah. Dvar Ervah D'ksiv Ki Hishchis Kol Basar Arke Elor, Sparshas Noach. Avodah Zarah D'ksiv Pen Tashchisun Va'asisem Lochem Pesel. But the bottom line is the Torah put together Mashchosam Behemoth, which means Gila Arayos and Avodah Zarah with Mumbam, with the Mum. Therefore, I would have thought Kol Shemon Pasul Boi, any type of Korban with a Mum Pasul, Dvar Ervah Avodah Zarah Pasul Boi as well. Avodah Zarah in a Mum Pasul Boi, ain't Dvar Ervah Avodah Zarah Pasul Boi. And again, what Shayich is the Ervah and Avodah Zarah have to Mum? Kimashchosam, which means Ervah and Avodah Zarah Mumbam. And if that's the case for any Oifes, when it comes to those birds, I would have thought Pasul Mumbam. Being that there is no Pasul Mumbam in the Adam and my Tamus was Zachrus Behemoth. If ain't Tamus was Zachrus Behemoth, the whole concept of Tamus as opposed to Mumbam and Zachrus as opposed to Nekev. This is a Sugya when you're learning Behemoth, but it's not a Sugya when you're learning Oifes. So, I would have thought Dvar Ervah Avodah Zarah Pasul. Maybe those also shouldn't be Pasul. Kimashmalon, that's why I need to know Mum men to be mighty never and never the rushes coming to be mighty never and never the is not coming to be mighty is it a dick or is it a barrier? lives with a shiloh exhales so rather short light daf and again very much digression the next sugars we're going to see is going to get involved already in of parah dumah and then we're going to get involved in the age of being able to do the we're going to get involved in and it's all going to follow the same signal what's it's possible that and what's possible that it's possible that this but the bottom line is what was today's uh topic it was the and the these are the two birds that are caused to be brought as a carbon and the mission to say possible possible to turn is possible but what does it mean but it has to be a little bit older if it's all the have to be a little bit younger if it's old enough to be a tire it's too old to be a and if it's young enough to be a it's too old to be a tire and what's the the short answer is which time it crawl the lift them in the middle of it always says but certainly a dick and from the fact that it always comes together with the tire tire tire that hectic tells me that tire is for sure and the is going to be tough cuz well so obviously >> [snorts] >> if today's tough was about and I think it's good to talk a little bit about that so from all the different offices that you find that are kosher by the way so you have and what's considered a kosher oif and a non-kosher oif is very much later in Maseches Chulin Sugya. But from all the different oifis, the Torah said that there's two that can be brought as a korban. It's the turtledove, the tor, and the ben yonah, and the dove. The Ramban in his Pirush Al HaTorah, and this is in Parshas Vayikra, it's perek aleph, pasuk yud dal, this is the first time the Torah introduces us to the tor and the ben yonah. The im min ha'oif olah korbon l'Hashem, v'hikriv min ha'torim o im min bnei ha'yonah es korbonoi. Says the Ramban, "Bochar ha'kosuv bishneiha minim ha'olah." The Torah chose from all the different options to have these two species bavur sheheim metzuyin ukreivim l'hitofes, because they live close by and they're very easy to catch. You don't have to be a professional hunter to be able to get them. Kasha Rabeinu and this is in the same vein as what Chazal said b'shor, se, v'se iz, that the reason that the Torah chose the shor, the kesev, and the iz the cattle, the sheep, and the goat as the kosher animal for korbanos, it's based on that very same reason. It's based on the fact that these are animals that are around, they're very easy to come by. It says the Ramban, "Just like Chazal said this regarding the shor, the kesev, and the iz, I'm showing this too. I think this is the same exact reason when it comes to the tor and the ben yonah." Now, what's this Chazal that the Ramban is referring to? It's a Medrash Rabba, it's in Vayikra chof zayin vov. Omar Rabi Yehuda bar Rav Simon, "Omar Hakadosh Baruch Hu, asarah minei beheimos masarti l'cho. I've told you that there are 10 types of animals that are kosher. Shloshah b'reshuscha, three of them are very easy to come by. V'zayin einam b'reshuscha, the other seven are not so easy. Shloshah b'reshuscha, what are the three that are in your reshus? Shor, se, v'se iz. V'zayin einam b'reshuscha, what are the seven that are not I said perhaps talking what you attract the you should know I was never I didn't tell you you have to go find those other seven that are not it's not from the ones that are your shoes those three men have got all from the ones that are literally being raised upon your truck these are the three minutes that are going to be kosher so says the >> [laughter] >> it's as it relates to the those that be and it's possible to me that the same exact spot would be true as it relates to the tournament of you know it's interesting everyone knows that the in his mirror in he like slushy is my in me a bonus and random says things that I was very unpleased with that one of my taking and most basic thing that said and that thesis as it relates to was that the whole year state of was because you didn't want the other desire specifically the Egyptians and the whole Indian of was to try to be them and try to be them and distance them from what that desire was all about and one of the things that the says was that's the reason that the three men that were chosen to bring us with the and the and the because ironically and counter intuitively these were the three animals that the would never in fact they used to worship the and the so if we're going to go and we're going to try to go to eradicate any remnants of desire of the Egyptians you know what we do we take what they considered holy and we make that the actual sacrifice THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO A WEEK AND THE HOLY. So it's mom being I care about that we deserve the Egyptians. That's the way the Rambam explains the shore the case of and the ace. But as it relates to as it relates to the office as it relates to the birds says the Rambam So therefore the third gives you an option to bring the carbon from the earth. And the office that were picked were the ones that were the most prevalent in earth Israel. Also the nicest, the handsomest and the ones that are easiest to catch So even the Rambam who has a dark when it comes to show the case of but when it came to tell me there he was master to show the matches. By the way the Rambam if you look at the mirror inside he speak out the matches as a sniff. He says by the way these three animals were also called with this. But there he brings it more as an after thought. Over here this is the one and only reason that the Rambam had. So when it comes to the show the case of the equal reason is the Rambam's famous thesis. But when it comes to the term of the here the Rambam says that the shot must be because of what the Rambam essentially says all the time which is really taking a matches that's talking about the behaima and showing it to. You know in here in Noah spoke out an incredible measure of my in which we had to discuss speak a lot of measure in this from this master and from last master this week. So I think it's just good that I speak out one more measure of my and that is when Noah took the animals and he brought them into the table so he was told to take and and right to take two of each with the exception of the kosher animals. However got me a show my show show so and a giver the zero I'll break all >> that why when it came to the kosher animals was Noah told to take more? The reason is it was because Noah was going to have to bring carbonas when he LEFT THE TABLE THAT'S WASHING RASHI. So come here it sounds from here that Noah when he left the table, he brought carbonas from every single kosher animal. Not every kosher animal is kosher to be brought as a carbon. When it comes to behemoths and when it comes to ofois, it's my aina. Seven from every behema and from every of. Not every behema and every of kosher that is is kosher to be brought as a carbon. That's the most obvious question that everybody should have asked himself at some point. Pedes Medrush that etzem really every single animal technically theoretically could have been brought as a carbon. None of us I wasn't mature with you to take something that YOU DON'T HAVE CLOSE BY. And the Ramban says this is not only true for BEHEMA IT'S TRUE FOR OFOIS as well. Even the Rambam who has A KARINA WHEN IT COMES TO this is maskin that came to the time of this must be the only shot. Doctor Sameach that you with dairus when the year they were going to have to go catch animals so they would make sense. Only this three that are kosher not the sign that are kosher. When it comes to the ofois what are they going to start catching all these ofois? But Noah when he left the table he had all the animals with him. And for him it wasn't a tircha to go ahead and take the ayal and the tzvi and the yael and the and the disha and the and the all of that reason those animals had to have seven seven. All those animals were considered kosher. Obviously and kosher as well because the time of that rabba was not yet in effect. The truth is there's another reason that the give why it is that it was these animals the shor and the kesef and the ace that were chosen in order to be the animals that would go in the misbecha. And this is also a Vayikra Rabbah. You just have to turn back a couple of pages from the one that we were just learning. That was chof zayin vov, and this is chof zayin hey. The medrish says as follows. [ __ ] Melech said in Koheles, "Vo'elokim yevakesh es hanirdof." Hakadosh Baruchu is mevakesh. Literally, he seeks out the nirdof, the people that are being uh chased, the people that are being persecuted. Says the medrish, beautiful medrish. Rav Huna b'shem Rav Yosi b'Rabbi Lo oilam vo'elokim yevakesh es hanirdof. Hakadosh Baruchu is always in Elokim yevakesh es hanirdof. Ata motzei tzaddik rodef tzaddik. Sometimes you find that tzaddik is going to be rodef a tzaddik. You find that. Vo'elokim yevakesh es hanirdof. Said Rav Yosi. Sometimes you find a rasha is rodef a tzaddik. Vo'elokim yevakesh es hanirdof. Sometimes you find a rasha is rodef a rasha. Vo'elokim yevakesh es hanirdof. And sometimes you find that a tzaddik is being rodef a rasha. Kornei the medrish Rabbainu. Vo'elokim yevakesh es hanirdof. In every single situation, it doesn't matter who the rodef is or who the nirdof is. Vo'elokim yevakesh nirdof. Says the medrish writer. Rav Yuda bar Rav Simon Amar b'shem Rav Yosi bar Rav Nehorai. Lo oilam Hakadosh Baruchu teve'a dom min adam rodef min a rodef. Hakadosh Baruchu is always teve'a the nirdof from the rodef. Tei da l'cha shekacha hu. I'll prove to you the way it is. Shekein Hevel nirdof mipnei Kayin. Kayin Hevel was a nirdof from Kayin. Kayin killed Hevel. U'vachra Hakadosh Baruchu b'Hevel. Noach nirdof mipnei doroi. V'lo bachra Hakadosh Baruchu ela b'Noach. Avram nirdof mipnei Nimrod. U'vachra Hakadosh Baruchu b'Avram. Yitzchak nirdof mipnei Plishtim. U'vachra Hakadosh Baruchu b'Yitzchak. Yaakov nirdof mipnei Eisav. U'vachra Hakadosh Baruchu b'Yaakov. Yosef nirdof mipnei eyav. >> Yes, the Rabbi Yossi ben Zimra Here's the postscript after carbonis came. The same is true when it comes to carbonis. All men are kodesh baruch kodesh baruch who said shoyr nirdof mipnei ari. The shoyr is a nirdof from the ari. Ayis nirdof mipnei namer. The ayis, the goat, is hunted by the nam, the leopard. Kasev mipnei sayif. Like sacrievo lefon I'm in a roytfin. Elo min an nirdofin. Ado d'kasev shoyr ayis kasev ayis kiveisi. This is another reason the medrish gives why it's these three animals because these are nirdofin. Well, it came yivakesh es an nirdof. So, we take the nirdof and that's what the Aibershter says, this is what I want. Now, it's interesting. This medrish is also talking about the beheimos. It's talking about the shoyr ayis kasev ayis. But over here we have a chazal that still suit this to the oifos and that's a gemara. It's a gemara above a kama in the end of perek achoyvo daf tzadikim amud alef. The gemara over there says omer Rabba bar Rabba bar said lo oilam yehei odom min an nirdofin v'lo min a roytfin. A person should always be from the nirdofin v'lo min a roytfin. By the way, what's the oilam? Doesn't matter. Russia tzadik. Lo oilam lo oilam yehei odom min an nirdofin v'lo min a roytfin. She ain lo chul nirdof b'oifos yoiser mitar mipnei ayin. Because there's no bird that's more of a nirdof than the tarnegol mipnei ayin. Because shoyr ayis kasev ayis goes on the mizbeach. Also, the two that go on the mizbeach. So, this is really another reason why is the shoyr ayis kasev ayis with a tzushtel to the tarnegol mipnei ayin. This is not the Ramban's tzushtel. This is a gemara's tzushtel. But, the bottom line is we have two mahalchim. Two roads explain why it's the term in the Bnei Yisrael, which really emerged from the two reasons why it's the Shai and the Kessef and the Ais. Again, this is something we mamash have to have in our bones. Not every kosher animal was right to be put on the Mizbeach. As it relates to Behemos, it was the Shai, the Kessef, and the Ais. As it relates to Oifos, it's today's daf. It was the Torim and it was the Bnei Yisrael. And why is it the Shai or Kessef or Ais? And why is it the Torim and the Bnei Yisrael? So, there's really two Mahalkem that we have. The first Mahalk is the Shai and the Kessef and the Ais of the Shulchan and the Ramban tells you the Ramban in the Moreh as well, who are then with regards to the Torim and the Bnei Yisrael. The other Mahalk is because the Shai and the Kessef and the Ais are near a dolphin. And here the Gemara tells you in Bava Kamma daf gimel that the same is going to be true for the Torim and for the Bnei Yisrael. But here's the follow-up question in light of today's daf. And that is why are the Torim dafka older? And why are the Bnei Yisrael dafka younger? Right? The Tor had to be older. The Bnei Yisrael had to be younger. What's that all about? So, if you go back in the Ramban al ha Torah, he explains this. Zogt the Ramban, "Aval rotzeh ba Torim hagdolah me'od." The Torah dafka wanted that the Torim should be older. The reason is bavur prishusam vihi dafkan. It's because of the fact that they are prushim and they are very much attached to their mates. They're incredibly loyal. Bi yodua, because it is well known she akiva she avad zugoi, that if a Tor, a turtle dove, loses his mate, lo yidbak le acher le oilam. The Tor is going to remain an agunah. It's never going to be mistabek with somebody else. The Tor is going to wait for its mate to return. The Knesseth Yisrael Knesseth Yisrael is the same way. Devek ba Shem Elokeinu velo yidbeku be acher le oilam. Knesseth Yisrael is the same way. Aval ha yonim, when it comes to the yonim, cannot mate. They're actually cannotim. They're very different. Uveken osam, yispardu veyachlifu. They are a feel LIKE TIKCHAS SHULAI. THAT'S FOR THEM IS LIKE considered they're ready going to go ahead and say you know what this is not for me okay and it's for that reason so we don't want them when they're older cuz when they're older then they come with baggage and we're not interested in that but at the same time when they're younger we do why because the owner when it's young us they used to be it's more attached to its nest where it was raised than all the other birds The owner all the different birds if someone's going to touch their nest what they're going to say you know what this is not for me but they're never going to nest here again but the owner doesn't do that but the owner will never exchange their creator and their creator Hello are you who do you says the owner so what a beautiful either live as a Jew or I'm willing to be hanged and it's for that reason says the owner that even within the world of the owner I could just chose the owner what's the between the owner and the owner that's how the owner is loyalty they're both loyal the owner that's the owner is loyal to its mate and the owner that's young is loyal to its nest And the idea is I could just want loyalty I could just want that we should be by the owner for you what THE OWNER WANTS IS THEY WISH TO WANT LOYALTY FROM US AND THESE TWO BIRDS THESE REPRESENT LOYALTY SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY the main of the owner that's the first part of this raid by but you want to know why it's the God will by the time I'm in the cut of the day and who said that's the way it is who in the hot base talked away right you don't expect to find this on who but this is who in the hot base the reason is because these are the two offers that display loyalty and really what it is it's all about the loyalty so just the end and today is air force and today's stuff is the [snorts] stuff of the first day of force I was thinking the passage says in here in this is in paragraph base passage just the picking up in the narrative over here has to self over the winter passed I guess I'm going to laugh all the way right those wintery storms those cloudy days they're all in the rearview mirror I need some of them near about it the flowers are beginning to bloom ace has summer here yeah you can hear chirping in the air and the voice of the tar is something that can be heard in the land so continued in his very poetic way hunter fogel and he goes on and he says how some of the beautiful in here and here and >> [snorts] >> here but what's the setup the setup is that the clouds are dispersing you can feel the good weather you can hear the chirping in the air you can hear the turtle doves already chirping and that's a sign that good times are coming That's a sign the call out to the smell about saying no the going in this period of Shira Shirin says what does it mean the call out to the smell about saying no. So the going and I quote period at all at all. The Torah is referring to the Torah. So he a sleeping at all and what was saying in here is the call out to the smell about saying no was that the time for Martin Torah had arrived who I'll have seen I and it was weird it was about saying no and I said the going to say NO SO WHAT IS going on at all. Tell the going the going to say the call out to the smell about saying no okay in the world of that's a that sounds easy but the call out to the smell about saying no saying no is like what's saying no of course it's saying no so saying no and what is that referring to it's referring to Martin Torah which happened on saying no cuz saying no is my saying no to the going to say no didn't happen in saying no saying no happened in the middle of the another going this going is saying no it's saying no the going to say one more extra the going to say no saying no is only in a scholar in saying no come on say no I feel saying no the going to say no and I love saying no etc etc I'm skipping come on say no I love saying no I'm saying no skipping a little bit saying no I love saying no I love saying no so the going to say no piece where he says saying no I'm saying no so the going to say no I feel saying no and that's what the going to say no I want to go and say no anymore at that point it was saying no saying no I LOVE SAYING NO I LOVE SAYING NO SO THE GOING TO SAY NO I LOVE SAYING no what do you mean I love SAYING NO THAT'S A NO YOU JUST SAID THAT SAYING NO SO WHAT DOES SAYING NO HAVE TO DO WITH anything the going to say no the going to say no the going to say no the going to say no the going to SAY NO THE GOING TO SAY NO SO THE GOING TO SAY BUT IT WAS THE AND IT'S what does that mean by our Sinai? It means our Sinai show my Israel. So I saw in the Masada of Coke edition of the Shir Hashirim on the going speech on Shir Hashirim. And the very very lengthy so they were written by Rabbi Leo Cohen who's been having going with David Cohen. The heaven of Yeshiva. So Rabbi Leo Cohen been Rabbi David Cohen the heaven of Yeshiva he says what's the he says the is based on a measure. This measure isn't the hill in it's in the hill in some of his. The measure says the Sinai may have come about. Where did our Sinai come from? Rabbi Yosi said may have may have really it came from Har Hamelech. >> [laughter] >> And it was separated like a woman is not power. That's how our Sinai was ripped apart from Har Hamelech. It came from the of the of the of the of the being that was he was on this mountain. No that's the place that's most appropriate for to be of the you want to know where our Sinai came from you want to know the rest of the story the time of said in this measure our Sinai is really the Har Hamelech because Har Hamelech was not her and it went into the and why did it happen? It happened because of the who made a husband. He said of the OF THE OF THE OF THE OF THE SO RABBI LEO Cohen says that I heard from my father. This is the heaven of Yeshiva of David Cohen. He said that the more says in time is that my Har Hamelech Why is Har Hamelech called Har Hamelech? So the more says one said this is the mountain where came and the other one said This is where the carbon come from. Why is place with this year for the higher of you want to know what the year it came to my life cuz when I gave the came to the Arab Yara the and from there you see that by Harrison there was Yara and that's how Maria shall be Sham my life is faith in my show Russia was taller in a just the Russia and Russia and China is my not be Russia but it's the what is a Russia and how many years is not seen a how MANY YEARS IS HOW MANY YEARS is with the SO WE ALL SAY MAY THE HEAVEN RECEIVE he said the feed this magic still in which is a going in two places that you see how the end of it might be you want to know why CUZ IT WAS WHO FRESH from the mcintosh the only all this was A STICK HOW MANY YEARS THE TIME IT WAS GIVEN ON BUT IT WAS REALLY HOW MANY YEARS AND THAT'S THE THING and that misses if you think about this if you miss buying and this is not the day for this but if you miss buying and a little bit the relationship between the comes into a whole another light when you appreciate the fact that how many years is really how many years first of all can we see the wood in Jerusalem right it's literally how many years was what how many years was the fact that the goddess sat in the what was the that was the end of the show really where they they sat in the what they sat on how many years but when how many years is how many years makes a lot of sense they would be sitting on how many years they are the only parishes true which the references in different places. If I must talk to you off if somebody understands the Sukkot of Mount Sinai, he'll understand the whole side of the Mishkan because the Gilui Shechina of Har Sinai was the same as the Gilui Shechina of the Mishkan. Sinai is Har Moriah. The Mikdash and Mount Sinai Shevet Levi whose avodah is to be in the Mikdash. We know there were two halves. On the one hand Shevet Levi does the avodah, on the other hand Yaakov is so they teach Torah. WHAT'S THE MAKOM TO TEACH TORAH? WHERE IT WAS GIVEN TO YISRAEL. That's the place to teach Torah. It's something that's supposed to be done in Har Sinai. But either way the Gaon says that you want to know what it means ha Torah. You want to know what it means it's the call of Torah. And what does it mean by nishma v'naseh means Har Sinai. She who come in the shock in the the call of is the call of the turtle doves. But in the the in the say the Vilna Gaon it's actually referring to the first day of Shavuot. It's referring to the call of Matan Torah. It's the call God basic that call the was to hear the call of Baruch where Yisrael literally heard Baruch say I will hear you. That's the call that this is referring to. The truth is another shot. That's brought down in a rabba in rabba. This is base tes. The call nishma in what's this call nishma means means the call of the turtle doves. Is this what this means as the the call of Hamashiach. It's referring to the call of Hamashiach. The call of Hamashiach the call nishma is referring to the call of the Hamashiach. So just be Messiah there with a of the call of the of all Yisrael. that sits and learns Torah day in day out the and the the of the turtle doves that would be to learn on today. So, it means the of the the Rashi literally learning the of the Torah that you know we should be to finally finally hear the of Messiah who's going to say >> [snorts] >> It should be the nishma the the Amen.