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Okay, good evening everyone. We're
continuing in
now an interesting while a person is in
Nazir
then
those days do not count towards.
What does an Azer do if he becomes a
mitz? It is not so
but it's so what would the be if
somebody became during the nazeros? What
would the be if somebody became during
the nazir? We just had a shila about
somebody who took upon himself nazeros
for his son and then his own personal
nazeros. He started counting for himself
and then he started counting for his son
and then what happened
um
he became tummy during his son's
nazeros. There was a shiloh whether that
undoes his own nazeros. Now we have a
similar shila where somebody became a a
matsura during his nazeras. I would like
to meet this guy also. This one's more
interesting guy, you know, he's a holy
dude. He became a a nazer, but he, you
know, he wants to be sanctified. He
doesn't want to drink wine, but he can't
control his lash and har, you know,
maybe that's why he became a nazer, you
know, he's trying to over he's trying to
work on himself. I want to I give him
credit. Um, and then he became tame
during his Saras. I mean I would peg
this guy as the guy who said I want to
do nausea in 20 days and now I want to
do 100 days. I think that works that
that seems to work in tandem with that
kind of guy. But anyway he became tame
during his sarasan
says like in the other case it unra it
undoes demolishes his nazerus because he
became tame. He in other words let's say
the guy became let's say the guy said
no and he counted 20 days he then became
so he had a pause
and now he became
says it demolishes the days of
says it undoes it because he's in the
middle
says it does not demolish it because
saras is one thing and aerus is another.
In other words, he is not a
he is he did not become tame during the
nazerus. He became tame during the
taras.
So the gar wants to know why do I need
both of these cases? both of the case
where the guy took upon himself nazerus
for his son then he took upon himself
nazer for himself and he started
counting for himself then his son was
born and he became and says it's not
says both these cases
have only taught the first case
only in the first case says does it
demolish
shame
because in that case it's all whether
it's for himself or for his son. So if
it's all in the zeros if you become it
unravels the whole thing
but in the case of
that if you became during the it doesn't
demolish your saras and are two
different things
is separate and saras is separate
and if it only taught this case meaning
the case of maybe only in that case only
in this case where says it does not
demolish because
but in the case where it's all in the
topic of
say he's
so that's why I need the
in both cases
okay let's see tusma
Somebody says from his he started
counting
the days of being
do not count toward
it also doesn't demolish
became
it does not demolish the first days that
you counted toward
When you become from your
shave
and you're going to bring
then you're going to go and recount, not
recount, you're going to complete the
count
based on what number you stopped at
says it demolishes
you're in middle of
you didn't count the full 100 days
when you become
you're going to have to count all the
days of
it needs account. It needs to teach
both by the case of the and in the case
of
the Taras. Okay, new Gamarra.
We're now coming to a completely new
Indian.
What is the new Indian?
The Indian is called Yim Gidol Sear on
the day that his hair is growing.
What does that mean?
It's not enough to count 30 days of
nazer so you don't drink wine and you
don't become tame. If let's say while
you were sleeping
uh somebody came and cut your hair
happens all the time you know kids
and let's say they cut your hair I don't
know mill the nazirus so you had an
impeccable nazerus you didn't become
tame you didn't drink wine but when it
when it comes time to cut your hair on
day 30 you don't have a growth of 30
days you need to have a minimum growth
of 30 days so You now have to wait
another 15 days to cut your hair. You
finished your nazerus.
You observed nazerus. You just don't
have a growth of 30 days.
Now, the reason it's called the day of
growing your hair is because
sometimes the guy's hair was cut on day
two. So, he only has to wait one day.
Now, what is the status of that one day?
Um, is he allowed to become tame? Nope.
Is he allowed to drink wine? No, not but
because he has to attain that 30-day
growth of hair. So, while he is
attaining the 30-day growth, he has to
observe the laws of Nazeros.
What would the be if the guy became tame
on that day?
Does it unra does it demolish the whole
nazerus? Is it just a den that he has to
he can't become tame but not that if he
does it unravels the whole thing or in
fact if he becomes tame the whole thing
is demolished
if somebody became on the day of his
hair rem uh continuing to grow
says it does not demolish the days he
counted
even who said in the above two cases the
case where you needed to count one for
you and one for your son or in the case
where you became when you were a mids
even says normally becoming everything
that's only when you're still in the
time frame of the 30-day or whatever you
accepted But gel sear mishum nazeru
letting your hair grow is
an extra period of nazirus. It's not
part of the standard nazerus. So
therefore if you became tame then it
does not unravel. It does not uh unravel
the whole um the whole time. It does not
unravel what you observed
says it does demolish.
Even
says it's not. That's because it was
dealing with two different periods. One
is for your son and one for you.
But so here it's all part of one. So
therefore it is okay
fine. Let's see.
I said behold him for 30 days
and when he counted 20 days list him
robbers cut your hair
against your will. They tied you up and
they cut your hair.
So you say, "Okay, what's the problem? I
didn't cut my hair. Robbers cut my
hair." No, I can't cut my hair on day 30
because I don't have a 30-day growth.
And I can't therefore
I can't bring my carbon
until I wait 30 days
from the day they shaved you.
There's no growth of hair less than 30
days.
and
he began the 30 days
after 10 of the days. He already
finished his nazeros cuz he's now
completed the 30 days from when he
started. Although he'll have an
additional 20 days of letting his hair
grow. Um
because he originally counted 20
before the robber shaved you these final
20 days
only to grow your hair
so that he could shave it after the
now he became tummy.
Why does it call it on the day of your
hair growing?
Why not during the days like it said
earlier be made?
Because the saras it's impossible
that it's not going to extend more than
one day. So it's a period a time period.
The taras will be much will be more than
one day
but having an having more time for your
hair to grow. It could be it's only one
day.
It could be will only be a one day
duration.
For example, if robbers shaved you on
the second day
because in such a scenario
because now you only have to add one in
the end.
Fine.
So now we go a little bit further in the
garb
said you ready for
you look like you're ready for
everyone agrees. Who's everyone?
We just said Rav and Shuel
they both they argue whether if you
became Tame Bid
whether it demolishes.
Everyone agrees.
If you sanctified your hair or if your
hair was sanctified
with blood,
there's no way to fix it.
What does this mean? Meaning let's say
the guy was an Azer
and
you were mafish the carbanis and the
blood was sprinkled on the mak
and we'll see well what wasn't done
there's no takana well what wasn't done
the one thing that wasn't done is in
other words the his hair His hair wasn't
done. He has sear it wasn't shaved. The
hair wasn't removed. In other words, he
completed the 30 days and he brought the
carbon
and his hair was not shaved and he
became tame.
The guys up the creek without a paddle.
What does this mean? We we have one more
chis to do back on the that very last.
In this case, it's one. Okay, this next
is on what we just read.
Look at
let's say after the blood of the car was
sprinkled, you became
before you shaved.
It's called your hair became holy
because you didn't shave it.
There is no rectification.
What does that mean? There's no
rectification.
Does that mean you can't you can't uh
drink wine forever? Yep.
thinks right now
that you'll never ever be able to drink
wine again
and to shave your head. Why? Why will I
never be a why will the guy never be
able to drink wine and shave?
He already brought his carbon.
Okay. So he brought his carbon.
He became before he shaved
without bringing a carbon.
He can't shave his hair.
So the guy became tame before he shaved.
And so what what's the issue here now?
The Carbonus are null and void because
if you can't tell me
The guy needs to shave his hair. So,
what's the problem?
The guy didn't shave his hair yet, but
he needs to. He needs to in order to
drink wine. Why can't he shave his hair?
Because he became tame. Now, think about
that. Because a guy's tummy, he can't
shave his hair. No. Yes, because the
procedure of Nazeros is he has to shave
his hair, but he can't you can't do the
procedure of Nazerus if you're tame. So
this guy who became tame, he he
self-destructed his completion of his
nazerus. The only way to complete the
process is to shave your hair. The only
way to shave your hair is if you're tar.
You can't go through the procedure of
nazerus if you're tame. So the guy is in
a catch 22. He needs to shave his head
to drink the wine, but he can't shave
his head because his tummy. So right now
the garra thinks the guy's stuck. He'll
never be able to drink wine again. He'll
go to a kdesh. He'll say pass the coke
zero. You know, at the at the uh at the
sedar he's going to be uh I don't know
what he's going to drink for.
He'll have coffee.
>> Milk.
Okay. So, right. That's the gumar's that
because he became tame he has no way to
shave his hair. So Gar wants to know
what Ali the man
who does this go like meaning which
opinion holds that because the guy's
tame
he can't in other words which opinion
holds that this guy is missing a
critical aspect of the procedure of
Nazeros
Alibazar
if it goes accord Rebelar
we'll have to see rebel as
says that shaving your hair is
the from ending the soy
it's still right so rebel holds let that
until you shave your nazerus is still
there well if that's the case if my
nazerus is still there then I'm still in
Nazeros. So I became tame during the
Nazeros. So it should be soy the whole
Nazeros and I'll start over and I'll uh
I won't drink wine and I won't become T
and I'll let my hair grow for 30 days
and then I'll do the procedure. Meaning
who does this go like if this goes like
the opinion that shaving your hair is
critical for the procedure of Nazirus.
Well, he didn't shave his hair yet. So
he's still then within the terms of
Nazerus. He became tame within Nazerus.
So it should demolish whatever he
counted and he should start over. So
says
that shaving your hair is
still within the full time frame
and it should demolish whatever he
counted. So what do you mean there's no
so it must be going like that is not
but the rabbis say that shaving your
head is not important it's not so
then you don't have to shave your head
to begin with you already sprinkle the
blood and you're done
if you need to shave your head he didn't
so then he became tame within the time
frame of neros so it should demolish the
whole thing and let him start over.
Shaving your head is not critical. So
great, he finished
answers the garban
really goes to
I what does it mean?
He has no way to fulfill the mitzvah of
nazirus of shaving his hair. He doesn't
need to shave his hair. He will be
allowed to end his nazerus right now.
But it's still a positive command for
another to shave his hair. And this guy
is not able to do that
says says the holyis.
We did that. Um
according to who says shaving your hair
is
to drink wine that shaving your hair is
to drink wine
it's within the time frame.
So then it's like he became tummy before
he brought carbon.
It's within the time frame. It should
demolish whatever he counted.
He should be able to bring again.
If you only had one of the bloods of the
carbon sprinkled on
says the whole thing is unraveled.
Shiva
the Gmorra asks
that after the time frame
it only you only have to wait seven days
says no you're right you're so the
carbon and after the seven days you
could bring other carbon
What to is saying is when the garra says
it's rebelar it's not actually the whole
30 days it's only seven days the amount
of time it takes to become
um
it's per force not specific
because he became on day 30
says
that shaving your hair is not
it should be to become tummy and to
drink without shaving at all. Says gar
you know what it means
doesn't mean that there's no remedy to
drink wine. It means there's no remedy
to fulfill the great mitzvah of shaving
your hair as a nazair. [snorts]
By the way, I would feel bad for the
Nazer who shaved his hair and forgot to
be mave to be mim the mitzvah of shaving
his hair. Imagine he's he waited his
whole life. He said if I have a boy I'll
be a Nazir, you know. So after he
finally had a boy at 100 years old like
Abrau and then he he he said he's going
to be a Nazir. He forgot to have a
cavana. So we show him in the mission
bro. Don't worry,
you're still yay. He says, "I want to
be." So you say, "Okay, you'll have a
you'll have another son and this time
hopefully you remember to have
according to the lack,
>> you know, but I'm saying to get the
mitzvah." That's what that's what the
saying to [clears throat] get the
mitzvah. Yeah.
Since you already brought the carban,
you can't bring them again.
Then you could drink the wine right away
without shaving at all.
Said
it's both and
that they argue.
They argue
that if you became
one second.
Okay. One one more time.
said
they say
here in general they argue by
but here if you became before the
ma that it's not why because it's like
you already shaved meaning that since
Since gil is not therefore if you became
tame you can't do the mitzvah of gilu.
Okay. Next next issue.
>> Is it also Is it also a mitzvah to drink
wine after the ner just like just like
shaving?
>> Uh good question. No, it's not. It's
only a mitzvah to shave.
>> Why?
Because shaving is part of the procedure
of the nazirus because he but drinking
wine is it's not it's not you know the
the the procedure of becoming tahar is
the procedure of ending the nazirus is
bringing carbon and sh and cutting the
hair specifically. But the Torah never
mandates to dapka drink wine.
Okay. So, so we just discussed what's
the haka
if
you became tame before the carbon.
What if
a person became tame?
In other words, we just spoke about uh
kesh
kesam is you brought your carbon
but you didn't shave your hair.
What if you didn't do either?
What if you just finished the 30 days
and you didn't cut your hair and you
didn't bring the carbon
who finished his days
but nothing more
if he became
he will not get malus if he shaves his
hair or for drinking wine he only gets
malus for tumor says why tuma tuma
Why do you get malus for? Oh, you know
why?
All the days of your
and where does it say that?
It says that regarding
the all the days includes
it includes the days after you finish
the term just like the days before you
finish the term. So in the context of
tum it says
all the days even days after you finish
the term before you do the uh the
completion of the by performing the
ritual
says
if so for shaving
says regarding shaving
all the days of his of his nether of
he can't put a razor on his head
to make the days after he completes like
the days
before he completes
and the same thing with wine. It says
all the days of his anything made out of
the grape of wine. Last
let's see
he counted all the days.
See in the previous case we're talking
about uh what the GRA called.
He brought the carbon he just didn't
shave yet. Now we're talking about the
guy finished the days of Nazeros but he
didn't do any of the ritual.
If he became before bringing the
he doesn't it doesn't uh demolish the
days he counted already.
And that is all folks. That is the
completion of
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