Daf Yomi Menachos Daf 20 by R' Eli Stefansky

[chant] of the ever king. [chant] Give me [singing] [chant] [singing] everything. Oh, [chant] we are [singing] [singing] victory. [chant] Yeah. Heat. [singing] [chant] >> [screaming] >> Welcome, welcome all the guests. Tonight sponsored by Allen Gross for the 37th of my father Alan Gross is in the house with us tonight. What do we have here? He has two ideas about making one giant WhatsApp group with 40,000 people and everybody checks in. Okay, good luck. The second one [laughter] those of you who used to watch um new what's the name sports center or like you know those TV shows so they have on the side tell you what's coming up in 5 minutes so he said let's do something like this but you're going to have sadam coming up [laughter] piggle murim I don't know what this is all about. [laughter] >> Okay. [laughter] Natal Karen learning the daffel on vacation in Plano, Texas. >> That's a hot new vacation spot now. >> It's hot. That's for sure. And it's interesting. This guy that sent the whole this this thing is from Los Angeles. I'll even read his name. What's his name here? Uh No, I'm Gau from Los Angeles. Laavd. This would help tremendously with sugary retention and seeing what topic we're currently discussing. Listen, this guy needs to know what topic we're discussing now. What's going to help the topic we're going to discuss in the future? Okay, listen. Some people need to know what we're talking about now on the screen now. Then there's another guy here from Los Angeles in the same day morning and English at the evening. So interesting. There's a bunch of people in Angeles. We got to get them all together. Um, is there that video I sent you? Oh, here. Donnie fine son, check this out. In a mostly nonreligious unit gets up there in front of everybody and makes us see him on And he he learns every single day with us. >> Huh? No, no, no, no. You're going to see soon. Did it go? Did the camera pan? Oh, they're doing some a lot of them are doing other stuff. Not not wearing yamakas. Doing a scene for them. I think it's beautiful. Huh? >> There he is. He just walked into the house as we're showing. [applause] Look at the screen. >> What? >> Come, come, come. Get over here. Get over here. It's a kiss from Hashem that you walked in as I'm uh playing your video. >> You have a bunch of gumar. What do you do with those garas over there? >> So, wait a minute. Just tell us real quickly what's going on over here. >> It's okay. It's okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Good luck. Good luck. >> So, okay. Stop. Pause. Okay. >> Your unit is mostly non-religious. >> Nobody's religious. >> No one. >> Like there's like one or two guys that they're like where keep us. >> What's it called? Nilone. A [laughter] good name for it. So you're the only religious guy. You get up there in front of everybody. You make them. They don't know what's you're trying to be mash them with Torah. >> I was I put filling on everybody. >> Really? >> When do you [applause and cheering] when do you learn when you do the D in front of them like you're they're doing Tik Tok or whatever and you're doing the D >> pretty much >> beautiful. Unbelievable. An inspiration. Thank [applause] you. Okay. Official edition MDY by the Iranian families permission. Official edition anonymous David dedicated memory of sponsors. 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Can you bring anything and donate it and like >> anything? >> Like a can of cola. It's okay. Pizza. >> No, no, no, no. I'm talking about to the MBA. You're putting on this. >> What about What about a pile of wood? You bring a pile of wood to >> And how do you burn wood? [laughter] >> Fire. >> With fire. >> So, so let's say you bring wood to the MB. Let's say you're right. You can bring wood to do you have to pour salt on it like you pour on a regular carbon? >> I don't know who says like this. What about Levina? You have to pour salt on Levo. >> No. >> So today's today's daf is a daff about salt and we're going to have to see has a question. Two lines from the bottom all the way in the bottom. We were discussing yesterday the things that are in a are they not are they how do you say again? We had a good word. >> Essential is one word is a better one. Mandatory mandatory is a better word. Yeah. Mandatory in our means repeat the doesn't repeat it twice. We know salt is mandatory. It's at least according to this mandris. That's it. It's interesting because it could be it's a you could call it a kiss from Hashem that by creams says that the the water wanted a reward from from the so said that no one will ever be a carbon without without salt from your that was that that was like the uh the reward that that they uh that the water got for for doing the kaams the med says that when when au separated the upper waters from the lower waters so the the water that that was separated from the was very upset now they lost that closeness to hashem so said don't worry about it I'll give you rewarded in these commands once a year. So Hashem said, "Okay, fine. We'll give you the the the salt that for the also that you get every day." Soon says, but how's that? You have a relationship with you're right next to you're there 24/7 365 and then says [clears throat] from your salt. It's not even you doing human beings are going to take the salt and and be how does that how's that compensation? How's that? She says, "Yeah, when a a Ben does a mitzvah and even if it's not the same, it's a lot. You see from here that it has at least the same effect as as having a closess to without the so us as we could go this way, we could go that way. Our that the fact that we do even though it's not as much it's it's worth a lot more than somebody doesn't have." [clears throat] Okay. The It's like it says the word we know that you need a forb you need salt. So we're saying that you need salt. [laughter] It's not doubled up. There's no double lush. There's no tukim. She says to our Mishna, if you look at our Mishna, it says that if he didn't do, he didn't do the fourth thing in the Mishna and he didn't and he didn't do it's okay. It doesn't say twice and therefore if you don't do it, it's not the end of the world. Why do we dip our kala in in salt? >> Yes. What does that have to do with salt? What does it have to do with >> Oh. And so so why do we dip it? I that I don't get. How come we can't pour it like the mak? You shouldn't pour on this. You should dip it in the but I think I think melik was actually poured. I don't think they dipped. Maybe they dipped. I think they poured it. Okay. But it comes from that idea. We we go like this with our because of the smell that we're talking about. Now going back to the Mishna, the Mishna starts off. He didn't do he didn't do the third oil. He didn't do he didn't do and then he didn't do melik. We just said Melik means he didn't do it at all. So then you have to say that the first thing in the Mishna means he didn't do it at all. But we know we already established we already spoke about it and we said that means not that he didn't do it just didn't do it did it which we need to understand because the already spoke about it and the said what about says each word could be a different meaning. So just because means that didn't do it doesn't mean that means the same thing but okay says maybe it doesn't mean that he didn't do at all just means that didn't do it what do you mean how could it's impossible cannot come close to what do you do can't get there so we had similar shot yesterday. In other words, one of the things I remember was said it's like a lion of it's a must says yesterday we're talking about it says it says sometimes you don't need the word sometimes in order to say that it's a it's mandatory you could say other words one of the words is bris brris means a covenant I have a bris with with you with you have to do it like as so you can't just almost do it and not and forget to do it you must do it brisandra it's just as strong as repeating the Pik twice. If it says the word bris, you must do it. However, the problem is why do you say that the didn't say it twice? What the didn't repeat it? Now, if I show you the it's going to be very, very understandable. Look at this. is it says three times in the not twice three. So the repeat itself says a thing he says why why mel what's what's the thing with me he says because if human beings don't eat food without salt so how could they serve the without salt it's not it's not proper you yourself need need to put spices and you so then you serving the king king of all kings should also tomorrow. Look at this. This whole you can't learn anything from this. We have Oh, I think now we're going into it. What needs to be salted? Think maybe you have to salt the wood. Maybe you have to salt blood. [snorts] Shiniku carbon. They're also called a carbon. So this is interesting and and and try to remember it because we're going to mention it two three times here. It means that there's other there's something else that comes together with it in order to put the on you need wood. You need to burn wood. So there's other things. Wood doesn't need wood. Blood doesn't need wood. Needs wood. So what what requires salt? Something that you need wood. So when I put the kamit on the I have to salt it. But when I put wood on the I don't have to salt. I put blood on I don't have to salt it. >> Huh? Yes. Oh, guest. Yeah, guest. We jumped into it. We have about a half hour left, but is very short. Okay, let's see who are our guests tonight. I haven't seen you in a long time. You okay? You doing okay? >> Dallas. >> From Dallas. >> Saw me on the >> Ah, I don't I don't uh I don't associate you with Dallas. I associate you with uh with South Africa. >> [laughter] >> Okay, welcome back guest. What's your name? >> Oh, from where? >> Then I can remember after. >> And you from >> Thank you. You know we do Hebrew later. You want to do the you speak Hebrew also? >> English is good. >> English is good. Okay. You from your TV. The guy next to you is also what's your name? >> Linder. >> Ah, you're already here. You're saying >> I think so. >> When are you guys leaving to America? I'm not pushing you out. I just [laughter] >> Tuesday. Well, next. >> No, they're learning. He's learning also. >> Ah, but you >> I'm learning. >> You're learning. Okay. [clears throat] Who else is a guest there that needs to say sham? You know, we had a guest there on Friday. >> Sweden. >> Comes over to me after she from Stockholm, Sweden, and I do the share with you for years. And we have eight guys that do the share with you. So, why do you speak up when I said guest? Comes to me after the share. You better come back. That guy, he said he's going to come back. He's not here today. >> What are you What are you pointing? He's here. >> Oh, so what's your name? >> Alexi >> from Oh, that's that's mamish. Listen, in our book, Yukim is like Stockholm, Sweden. [laughter] >> I was there when I was a kid, actually. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's the same. [laughter] >> Really? Nothing changed. Okay. Ver. Uh. Oh. What does the do? What does the do? The allows you to eat the Yeah. It's one of the mater. You put the on his back, you put the then the can eat the mater. So maybe anything that allows you to do something else would require salt. For instance, what about blood? Blood allows you to eat the rest of the carbon similar to So here's another or we're going to remember this. This is one of the we have two mutim today. It has to be from you put salt on. You don't put salt on blood. Okay. Maybe you should put the the salt on the part also. You see on the chart the also where do you put the salt on the carbon part not the edible part that's not the carbon on the part that goes on. Okay. So the thing on the top left the part is what about top right the part by the way if you didn't do tonight you can do from here this bought it for me I like it that's chunk big nice pieces and it has a nice smell you have to make somebody said I think it's you could do a smells really good but it it's sap and I don't think he I'm I'm on that one. [laughter] Could be wrong. I don't know. I'm not a big M in those. It just doesn't sound right to me. >> Who's that? >> Oh, Stanford Hill. Wow. >> They have bad internet over there. >> It has a filter or something. You said you shouldn't have a filter. You made fun of the filter. >> Yeah. And I just made a whole fight with myself. So [laughter] the le and the and the and the flower come in in one vessel. How can you compare? So yeah. So that's why that's why it needs salt. Oh, so here that's the question I asked in the beginning. Can you bring by itself? And the answer is yes. I could bring a carbon harbon lava. It's interesting, but it's done. Bring a whole k full of lava. How do I know that? that if it comes by itself without any flour, it also requires salt. What about the lev that comes in the two spoons on the upon him on the upon him back Tyrus? And how do you know Tyrus itself needs salt? There's no goes straight onto the the half in the morning, half in the afternoon that comes together with the wines that come with the certain am the the hair like this of the of the I love the detail of it like literally it like looks real. What's kachim? So Rashi says something interesting. I wouldn't know this without Rashi. He says because it bothered me right away. You look in Rashi cuz if you're talking about and so what else is there? What other kach are there that are not addressed by the gar? Yeah, it says kas. It says asham. So what else is there? There's nothing else on the list. Oh says rash. Yeah, there is something on the list. the you bring on and also if you have you have regular all require salt you have to sorry the all the limbs of the all require that they need salt and that's the pulsing and somebody's screaming out maybe it was that even when you bring wood you always need as we're going to see soon is that repetitive >> right correct there's no failless over here because it's necessary [clears throat] it's written in my Gmor also but whatever I figured >> how do you think [clears throat] >> you can see it You want to see here? Look. >> You asked for it. >> Look, look, look, look. Get over here. Look, look. What does it say over here? [laughter] >> Something I can't read. >> Sorry. I can't wait to get to it. It's going to be somewhere. Who knows? It's going to It's coming up soon. All right. How do I know that I need salt? We said the reason why a levina needs salt. How do I know that the the frankincense requires the salt? By the way, you could return that frankincense to me. It's okay. I don't know. [laughter] Somebody pocketed it. Where's it? >> Good. >> Ah, it's still going around. Okay, good. Good. Good. As long as it's moving. I get a little nervous when they they start walking out with my stuff. Yeah, that's why I'm walking. Yeah, correct. >> It's over here. It's over here. Don't worry. >> You don't throw them at the same time. You're not doing them both at the same time. >> Yeah, it's two separate actions. I think so. >> All right. Why do I have to say this? Because that comes in one. There's the idea that if there's if it's if there's wood that burns it that that requires salt is burnt by the wood so it requires salt. Oh, so we don't even have to say that there's zero trauma when it comes to cloud in this year. When the Tyra says a generalization, the Tyra says carbon. carbon can mean all these things that you see over here. Can mean meat, it can mean wood, levina, uh a bird, it can mean everything. So that's a very general generalized mus. But then the says only on a you should put salt. So that's pratt. So anytime you have a generalization and then uh specification a prat then what the T is doing is saying forget the cloud. There's no cloud. It's not generalized. It's very very exact. It's a prat. But if the T adds another cloud afterwards then it opens it up again. But the reason why there's a pratt because now I have where to focus. It has to be very similar to the prat. So that would be if there's only a cl and a pratt. So right now we're at a cl and a prat. The word carbon is general that what has to be exact. There's no generalization. It's very specified in we remove the whole list of carbonas that we saw before all these different things and has to be only a and that's the only thing that requires salt. Whoa. And then we said no you got to continue in the it says in the here we go. So it's all the types of carbonas. So now it brings everything back in just what there has to be something similar the has to be a carbon similar to the to the parat which is a so what do you do of course you all know these you say this when you say kerbanus every day yeah most of you say you do well you're only 12 >> you know what when I was 12 I also used to say kerbanus I'm not joking and then it stopped at some You should continue until you're 120 saying every day. So you have a generalization on both sides. It's a sandwich. So you have to take the middle thing the very spec specific thing called a prat which discusses a and we learn from that to the general category that we're still in that thing over there the wood there's wood that's burnt because of it. So everything in the cloud has to be something that that's why Yoshi put the fires over there. There's wood burning. If there's wood burning, you have a carbon that needs wood to burn, then it requires salt. If anything has wood, then it requires salt. So now let's go back to a different question. Same question. If I bring a carbon that is wood, does wood require wood? Probably not. >> So then why then I shouldn't have to salt it. Only something that requires wood. So the gar is going to say on B that wood requires wood. When you bring a pile of wood, you're not lighting it. You light underneath it. You light the wood from the from the B. And therefore, wood does require salt. Okay. What's your name? >> Gam who? What? >> From >> I live here now. I'm good friends with LA's first time in Israel. >> For real? First time ever? That is crazy. >> How old are you? Could I ask? >> Few years older than you. [laughter] >> So it took you 50s something years to get here. That's unbelievable. Wow. And why did you come st you scared of flying by the way? I've been on a plane. >> Just never met a young couple that lives in your salon. So, we're here spending a few days. >> Wow. You never felt like you have to go to the I met a few people like you. >> I was there. >> You know who else? No, seriously. There's what's his name? Uh knew my friend I used to play basketball with from my knew Yona. Yona. [laughter] >> No. What's his name? Okay, fine. His father is like seven years old. came to that for the first time. >> Yeah, now I'm going to get it that I forgot his last name. >> And the way >> no. >> Oh, that is Raana. Very cool. Who are the guys in the top? Oh, that's Zoom. I like I thought it's like I thought it's like on top. [laughter] They have no idea why why like to them. Okay. Oh boy, we're running out of time. That's interesting thing. What's going on here? The gimmar says that since blood comes together with something else, blood comes together with theim that theim come because of the blood. So they go together and therefore to require salt just like Leva comes because of a mah. The leav comes because of the mah and that's why it requires salt. So too that come because of the blood should also the blood should need need salt. Says no no no don't come the the the wine doesn't come because of the blood. The wine comes together with it makes sense. There's wine and there's meat. It's like that's what we eat on Shabas. There's a and for whatever reason I said this on in the Hebrew sh I'll say it now. This is just like it popped into my a guy I just thought it was funny that this guy he brings he was going shopping like he had let's say some sort of you know ver he was doing that night. So he went shopping in the morning. He went to the bakery, bought a ton of cookies and cakes and stuff and he put it in a box and he went to Davin and the with the box. So some lets decided to get him good. So he took a bottle of brumin and put it right next to the box. So other people came. They said, "Oh, there's a there's a box of cake." Like typically it was closed box. They weren't going to touch. But since it was a bottle of of liquor, they figured it was a tikon. So they opened it up and they partied there and the guy finishes from there's nothing left in this box because also you know people like to take home and so they asked [laughter] not a joke is it a grandma not gramma the whole thing okay [clears throat] >> huh >> it's only banana that's [laughter] Simka meaning the wine. The wine is the end of the you get you get you have a kapara through the blood and you have the simka that oh you got a kapara just you don't even have to drink the wine just bring wine. It's like part of the SIMA. There's a uh a Y that comes to the RV and he tells the RV like he he's a little bit over excited about this aa this massive a he did and he wanted to know could he get a a kapara. So the said what do you want from me? She say I want the rough to give me a tikon. So he says, "Okay, uh, take 10 lemons, squeeze them, and drink the juice in one gulp without any sugar, without any water." The guy says, "That's it? That for this big a that's it?" No. He says, "No, no, no. That's just to wipe that smirk off your face and then we [laughter] can talk." I don't know who's laughing over there, but it's Kishmak. He makes the joke. The reason why gets salt because it comes together with the one are separate. The the wine is separate. That's why there's no salt. The wood that goes together with the goes together. That's why it needs salt. This comes together with with wood, but it's and it also is a matter. So basically has two things going for it. Maybe you need two things. Maybe it's not enough that it just comes with wood. It comes with wood, but also it's a matter. So maybe you need two things. the comes from the from with together with the comes from the it's the foron without putting it on the fire you don't get to eat the upon him it's also something that needs wood so you have two things going for it you have wood and you have a m anything that doesn't have these two things that says no blood is just a matter if there's no wood with blood. So it has one thing. So then if it only has one thing, you know automatically it doesn't need salt. So then if you know automatically it doesn't need salt, why do you need a you need a cuz that's not how you figure if something needs salt or not. It's not dependent on one or two things. Obviously it's not about two versus one. Otherwise we wouldn't need a specifically blood. Even if it only has one thing going for it, it does need salt. We learn from the that's the and exclude. It's only a but not blood. Maybe it's you don't need to put salt on the limbs. No, it makes sense logically that you should have to salt limbs in my says I like it. They actually changed changed the uh what everybody else has isma [clears throat] fire in the and we don't even we don't even uh do this uh we don't use the last alphabet. Basically, it stands for this right over here. As Gumar is going to explain. What am I missing? I feel like I'm not showing a certain video. >> Oh, this. No, no. The guy brings a wood a wood carbon. [laughter] No, I think that's later. It's later also. No, no, let me show that later. I have to show it later. It's later. I'm jumping the gun here. All the good videos are for later. Okay. >> That's also later. It's all the way at the end. Okay. So, I'm saying you have to get you have to salt up these limbs. Why? Because they have six things that are similar to what are the six things. There's you have to burn it with wood. You have to burn the limbs with wood. Just like a you need fire. They're outside of the of the but sometimes blood is different because blood is inside. Blood you don't you don't put on the fire. You throw it on the wall. You don't have wood underneath it. have the leaving over can't be and if you use it you have to pay the use blood says oh we're going to pause there for our sponsors earning of the adar global your one-stop shop for all your financial needs castle in honor of all the mdy ders in South Florida we should all be so we Kashmir is anonymous in memory of Parrot's first yard site. [laughter] >> Hold on. We're going to take a We're going to take a comment from AR. Go [laughter] >> keep it for next time. >> We might not have next time. Yeah, there's a shaer here. I'm looking at the clock to seven minutes to do six lines. [snorts] Blood is similar to and blood should require salt. Blood is a matter. It allows after you spray the blood, sprinkle the blood. First of all, it's second of all, it's possible when comes along over here. is a massive tas we discussed it invim the famous of that he says is not like we think is when the sun goes below the horizon but rather it's 58 12 minutes later and then you have 13 and 12 minutes of mashes a total of 72 minutes that's you have two things that are similar. Blood is similar to two things says but six we had six things that are similar. So that's why I'm going to take the blood and not I [clears throat] think that wood and blood require salting. Why? because they call but because they thought that that's why I have and not not blood carbon who says that wood is considered carbon right according to you would need salt you'd have to salt the wood which is extra you're allowed to come and donate wood Now we in Bamesh and in New York we don't know what it is but in many places around the world you go to Switzerland you go here and then in the it was all about wood you go what are you shaking your head in your house you have wood piled up >> but you know what I'm talking about >> in the side of the houses they have all over Europe they take the wood they throw it into wood is a thing people used to sell wood >> fireplaces that wood you go bye-bye you know it's not a you need wood so a guy says listen I'm I'm giving instead of I have this valuable wood. I'm giving it to the BD. It's it's a nice carbon. How much is considered a carbon? You have to give like two pieces. It's a carbon. What is in fact a type? What kind? It's not a carbon. It's a carbon. You have to take it. Let's see if we even have a gush. I don't even know if we have it. But you know what a gush is? You have to take it the wood and bring it to the misbeh. We're going to finish. There's one you that everybody knows [laughter] southwest that we can beat every shear in the world. We know southwest corner. Anything else? [laughter] saying [laughter] a few things we picked up here and there. Listen to this. You're not going to believe this. How in the world do you do? So that's this video right over here. Let's watch. It's gishmak this video. [laughter] Why is it so gishmak? Because I told Yoshi to do this video a half hour before share. This is what he was able to do. Well, maybe an hour. It's just a You have to have an idea. It's a ninja. [laughter] Oh my gosh. >> It's how do you do kamita with wood? Rashi at the end of the ma says you have to make it into sawdust and then you do kamisa. That's what he says. You break it up into small pieces. Huh? Come on. You can't complain about this one. Take it. >> You're going to take it. [laughter] Okay. Good. Wow. You're tough. Tough. Baba, he's he's on he's on the side. He's he's on the same team. >> The guy who creates >> what? He's the guy that writes those anonymous emails. That is unbelievable. You can't just put Oh, so here's Shak's video. Hold on. Where was it? Here. Oh, that's a Hebrew. We don't need Hebrew. This one. >> Shalom. I brought a Corbin. [snorts] >> If you didn't like this one, that one. Forget this one. Go to sleep. >> Not the horse. Not the etsim. >> The [clears throat] etsim. >> Yes, the woods can be. >> You can lower it a little bit. >> So, what's with the wagon there? You brought two corbanos. [laughter] >> Mamesh. Funny. That's the wood to burn my corban. >> Oh, interesting. >> Kid, sir, you need wood to burn the wood. You can't just bring wood. Oh, so the problem is how do what how do we deal with the bry? It seems like wood doesn't need salt. And over here says wood needs salt. Says okay. You're right. If so, you have to take the word out because does need salt. So now we have so there's a whole long rash here. There's two mut that we have if you remember we have I told you guys to remember we have this one you know the the clu that's a me but if you're going to remove wood which requires salt so what's the second meal for one meal okay we'll get we'll say blood doesn't need salt what's the second one for that already took out from so now what do I do with the cloud says okay wine doesn't need salt how do I know that from the second meal really we're going to start over here tomorrow we could just read it there are four things that don't require salt wine blood and says mani Rebi just said that wood does require salt. They do require salt. The goes on to say it's a different t that says and that we can finish tomorrow. 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