Doves and Turtledoves

A rather short, light dove. >> [snorts] >> And again, very much digression. The next sugyas we're going to see is going to get involved already in halachas of parah [snorts] adumah. And then we're going to get involved in the age of Leviathan being able to do the avodah. We're going to get involved in tumat metahor and it's all going to follow the same signon. What's kosher by this is possible by that. And what's kosher by that is possible by this. But the bottom line is what was today is a topic. It was the torim and the bnei yonah. These are the two birds that are kosher to be brought as a korban be'er hatas or be'er olah. And the mishna said kosher betorim possible bnei yonah, kosher bnei yonah possible betorim. Tzilus atzmi of is possible but what does it mean kosher betorim? A torah has to be a little bit older. If it's the bnei yonah have to be a little bit younger. If it's old enough to be a torah, it's too old to be a bnei yonah. And if it's young enough to be a bnei yonah, it's too old to be a torah. And what's the makor to this? The short answer is krov el lichtamin bnei atorim bnei yonah. It always says torim bnei yonah. Bnei yonah bnei yonah bnei yonah certainly a dik. And from the fact that it always comes together with the torah torah torah, that hekesh tells me that torah is for sure dafka. And the bnei yonah is going to be dafka as well. So obviously, if [snorts] today's daf is about torim and bnei yonah, I think it's kedai to talk a little bit about that. So from all the different oifis that you find that are kosher, by the way, sugya of oifis and what's considered a kosher oif and a not kosher oif is very much later in mesechtas chulin sugya. But from all the different oifis, the torah said that there's two that could be brought as a korban. It's the turtle dove, the torah, and the bnei yonah. And the dove. Ramban in his pirush al hatorah, and this is in parshas vayikra, it's perek alef pasuk yud dal. This is the first time the torah introduces us to the torim and the bnei yonah. The im min ha'oif olah korban l'Hashem, v'hikriv min to learn or mean as carbon. It says both of the Torah chose from all the different options that could be two species because they live close by and they're very easy to catch. You don't have to be a professional hunter to be able to get them. And this is in the same vein as what said the sex of the say is that the reason that the Torah chose the shore, the cassock, and the ace the cattle, the sheep, and the goat as the kosher animal for carbonas is based on that very same reason. It's based on the fact that these are animals that are around, they're very easy to come by. It says the rabon just like said this regarding the shore, the cassock, and the ace. I'm showing this too. I think this is the same exact reason when it comes to determine the what's this that the rabon is referring to. It's a magic wrapper. It's in the love. I'm going to be with you though. I wrap cinnamon on my dish of cinnamon and the ham is like to love. I've told you that there are 10 types of animals that are kosher. Three of them are very easy to come by. The other seven are not so easy. What are the three that are so sure sex of the say is the inner what are the seven that are not idle said I'm going to be with you though. I wrap cinnamon on my dish of cinnamon and the You should know I was never you. I didn't tell you you have to go find those other seven that are not it's not good from the ones that are your those three from the ones that are literally being raised upon your truck these are the three minutes that are going to be kosher so says the it's as it relates to the those that be almost and it's possible to me that the same exact would be true as it relates to the term you know it's interesting everyone knows that the one is my in is my in schlissel and one says things that was very unpleased with the most basic thing that the one said and that thesis as it relates to was that the whole of was specifically the Egyptians and the whole Indian of was to try to be them and try to be them and distance them from what that was all about and one of the things that the one says was that's the reason [laughter] that the three minutes that were chosen to bring this with the and the because ironically and counter intuitively these were the three animals that the mission would never if I get they used to worship the of the so if we're going to go and we're going to try to go and eradicate any remnants of of the Egyptians you know what we do we take what they considered holy and we make that the actual sacrifice that we're bringing to a week and so it's being that's the way the one explains the the and and the is but as it relates to as it relates to the as it relates to the birds says the one but the Indian of the is the Indian of every person the Indian of the so they're the Torah gives you an option to bring a carbon from an animal and all the stuff that were picked were the ones that were the most prevalent in Eretz Yisrael. Also the nicest, the handsomest and the ones that are easiest to catch. So even the Rambam who has a dark when it comes to but when it came to Torah Here he was master to two of the madras. By the way, the Rambam if you look at the madras inside, he does speak out the madras as a sniff. He says well by the way, these three animals were also called but here he brings it more as an after thought. Over here this is the one and only reason that the Rambam had. So when it comes to the is the reason is the Rambam's famous thesis but when it comes to the Torah here the Rambam says that the must be because of what the Rambam essentially says on the Torah which is really taking a madras that's talking about the Behema and stealing it too. You know in this year in Noah we spoke out an incredible in we had discussed to speak out a lot of this master and from last master this week. So [snorts] I think it's just good to speak out one more and that is when Noah took the animals and he brought them into the table so he was told to take right to take two of each with the exception of the kosher animals. However, all the Behema Torah kosher is Torah Now we are all the same Shiva Shiva Zocher and Nekeiva the Zera of Rashi says that why when it came to the kosher animals was Noah told to take more? The reason is it was because Noah was going to have to bring when he left the table and they said you have to bring carbon that's what Rashi so it sounds from here that Noah when he left the table he brought carbonis from every single kosher animal. Not every kosher animal is kosher to be brought as a carbon. When it comes to behaima, it's shor and kesev and ez. And when it comes to oif, it's tor and ben ya'ana. So the behaima and the meshech seven from every behaima and from every oif. Not every behaima and every oif kosher that is is kosher to be brought as a carbon. This is the most obvious question that everybody should have asked himself at some point. I was the meshech pishis medrish that etzem really every single animal zocheh Kodesh Boruchu technically theoretically could have been brought as a carbon. Nevertheless, I wasn't matzliach you to take something that you don't have close by. And the Ramban says this was not only true for behaima, it's true for oif as well. Even the Rambam was a darka d'arina when it comes to this is maskim that when it came to the time of the ben ya'ana, this must be the only shot. Zocheh the sameach that you would do this when the yidden were going to have to go catch animals so they would make sense. Only the three that are b'shuchan, not the ones that are b'shuchan. When it comes to the oif, what are you going to start catching all these oif? But Noach, when he left the table, he had all the animals with him. And for him it wasn't a tircha to go ahead and take the ayil and the tzvi and the yachmur and the akko and the disho and the zoi and the oif. For that reason, those animals had to have seven seven. All those animals were considered kosher obviously and kosher l'korban as well because the time of that Vayikra Rabbah was not yet in effect. The truth is, there's another reason the Chazal give why it is that it was these animals, the shor and the kesev and the ez that were chosen in order to be the animals that would go on the mizbei'ach. And this is also a Vayikra Rabbah. You just have to turn back a couple of pages from the one that we were just learning. That was chof zayin vov and this is chof zayin hey. The medrish says as follows. Melech said in Koheles, "Vo'ali kimya v'akesh es nirdaf." Hakodesh Boruchu is mevakesh literally. >> [snorts] >> He seeks out. 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Amar Kodesh Baruch Kodesh Baruch who said, "Shore near death m'pnei ary." The shore is a near death from the ary. "Ais near death m'pnei nomer." The ais, the goat, is hunted by the the leopard. "Kess m'pnei saif." Like sacrilegious fun I mean I roitfin element on your dolphin. Although the shore or kess or ais give all these. This is another reason the magic gives why it's these three animals. Because these are near dolphin. Well, a king you vacuous are near dolphin. So, we take the near dolphin and that's what the Aibershter says, "This is what I want." Now, it's interesting. This magic is also talking about the behemas. It's talking about the shore or kess or ais. But over here we have a chazzal that shows through this to the oifis. And that's a gemara. It's a gemara above a kama in the end of perek daf tzadik aleph. The gemara over there says, "Amar Rabba bar bar Rabba bar said, "Lo oilam adam in a near dolphin in a roitfin." A person should always be from the near dolphin in a roitfin. By the way, what's the oilam? Doesn't matter rash tzadik. Lo oilam lo oilam adam in a near dolphin in a roitfin. "She ain't near dolphin oifis yoisim m'toi b'nei yonah." Because there's no bird that's more of a near dolphin than the torm b'nei yonah. Ashira kasuv m'sach. Those are the two that go in the m'sach. So, this is really another reason why is the shore or kess or ais with a tzushtel to the torm b'nei yonah. This is not the Ramban's tzushtel. This is a gemara's tzushtel. But the bottom line is we have two mahalchim, two roads to explain why it's the torm and the b'nei yonah which really emerge from the two reasons why it's the shore and the kess and ais. Again, this is something we manage to have in our bones. Not every kosher animal was right to be put on the m'sach. As relates to behemas, it was the shore, the kess, and the ais. As relates to oifis, today's daf, it was the torm and it was the b'nei yonah. And why is it the shore or kess or ais and why is it the totem and the ben Yona? So there's really two Mahalkam that we have. The first Malach is the show that Cassiopea's of Brisk and the Ramban still through the Rambam in the middle as well who I think with regards to the totem and the ben Yona the other Mahalkam is because the show that Cassiopea's on your dolphin and here the Gemara still through and by the comments of the Gemara that the same is going to be true for the totem and for the ben Yona. But here's the follow-up question in light of today's daf and that is why are the totem dafka older and why are the ben Yona dafka younger? Right, the totem had to be older, the ben Yona had to be younger. What's that all about? So if you go back in the Ramban on the Torah he explains this. Zukt the Ramban aval rotza ba totem hagdolim the Torah dafka wanted that the totem should be older. The reason is ba avur prishusam vihi dafkan. It's because of the fact that they are prushim and they are very much attached to their mates. They're incredibly loyal. Be dua because it is well known she kivan she avad zugoi that if a tor a turtle dove loses his mate lo yiyed bak le acher le oilam. The tor is going to remain an aguna. It's never going to be misdabeck with somebody else. The tor is going to wait for its mate to return. The keness Yisrael klal Yisrael is the same way. Dvekim ba Shem Elokeichem velo yiyedbeku be acher le oilam. Klal Yisrael is the same way. Aval hayoinim when it comes to the yoinim kannon maid they're actually kannonim. They're very different. Awesome. Yispardu veyachlifu. They afilu hektechu tavshilai. That for them is already considered kimat avodas dovor. They're ready going to go ahead and say, you know what, this is not for me. Okay, and it's for that reason they bochrim el haktonim koinim she is dafka. So we don't want them when they're older cuz when they're older then they come with baggage and we're not interested in that. But at the same time when they're younger we do. Why? Ki hayoinim bekatnusom because the yoinim when it's young astei fesis ahavah bekan gedulah yotzei mikol oifus. It's more attached to its nest where it was raised than all the other the his gear of a base and he call life is all the different in yoga other become shall I am if somebody's going to touch their nest look right to do to take the a friend of the base and yes they're going to say you know what this is not for me for they're never going to nest here again the owner life But the owner doesn't do that again you stroll my actual life the clay soil will never be they're never going to exchange that creator and their data Allah or you who do says the Rambam or it's solo for a beautiful ocean either live as a Jew or I'm willing to be hanged and it's for that reason says the Rambam that even within the world of the of the owner a chose the and the owner what's the between the God and the owner cotton the loyalty they're both loyal the that's the God of the world to its mate and the that's young is loyal to its nest and the idea is once loyalty I could just want that we should be by for you what wants is they wish to want loyalty from us and these two birds these represent loyalty so you want to know why the main of that's the first part of this but you want to know why it's the God of the world by the of the world who said that's the way it is talked away right you don't expect to find this but this is the reason is because these are the two that display loyalty and really what it is it's all about the loyalty