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It's a bit interesting because after the
whole the whole v of last week we start
in but now in we go to the same
it says
is is when we start is when the year
really starts when the really starts
already last week in we came to that
already incious
and already the not only in it's already
incious
Huh?
We'll get to that later. We'll see.
How it fits. We'll get
the
butane. I'll try to a bit and then we'll
try to see what the what the or what's
the over the way we explained last week
anyway the he says here in the
is
right in 23 of
what's the mice of Misha may of may of
He got the golden leg of the table and
then he he wanted to send it back.
Basically,
you get gifts from above.
Gives
gives but doesn't take back. There's a
tin here. There's a of
about
I think
where it speaks about the two the two
what exactly happened to the
so what exactly happened to it so init
there's different found how to
understand the two the way the learn is
one is that the borrow basically
midair or it got sorry it got stuck in
midair it just didn't come down whatever
was the middle come down when bard
finished it didn't come down or it was
taken back then the sh which one's a
bigger nest that's like the whole which
one's a bigger nest is a bigger bigger
nest that was taken away or
so based off the
it's a bigger that was taken back
doesn't take back
what's the why not
the is the gives doesn't take back he's
not a he's not an Indian giver he
doesn't take back what's in the so this
many
that
the why is
right
what can do is greater than is that
going to be greater than
[snorts] the greatest
How could it be something greater? How
could it be greater?
It's a great feat,
right?
Only could do that.
And yet what we do of what of making
or
Yes. It's very interesting, right?
Why needs of constantly in it? Because
it's
not a real the
pales in comparison to yes
in comparison to Io
different
is taking a piece of silver and turning
it into
interesting verb that
is the ultimate why is it the ultimate
what makes it ultimately
why
What makes it greater? What makes it
greater? The pastor, how do you
understand? What makes it greater? Why
is how could our actions be greater
than's actions? So, what would you say
on a very very basic level right now?
You didn't learn this
how is
sounds like a good creat.
Okay.
How is making from yes to
>> greater than making
you know
they say to destroy
yeah anyone could destroy it's not a con
anyone could do that's
creating may and that's building is to
destroy any could destroy right could
destroy what what the greatest are
trying to I don't get this girl.
>> So what's making from
there's no real wrong answer like how do
you understand?
>> Yeah.
>> You're changing that command more.
>> So you know it's what you're saying
you're saying there's no real
that's what you're saying right can do
what he wants.
It's a maybe in our mind, but for is not
real. The the fact that we can take
something to created and change its
matter that's a that's a right that's
so the is number one that I guess the
human being is able to do something not
not just the there and number two we're
able to do something against against the
current of what the is going in one
direction and we're sort of pushing
back. We're pushing back.
>> That's one and that's
That's the way I say but it seems it's
like
then
in various
that
we say
sorry
they're giving
that's not aes right that here 23
that are taking back the the leg of gold
is a greater nest than giving it. Why?
Because giving is not is not a big nest
not a big why because from
is giving
creating is giving a bit of a different
creating is a nest. creating is a and
it's a that's only
but started my friends 5,700
plus years ago and since then there's
this
from being there always of giving.
So now to come out of the blue and give
an extra leg of gold he's been giving
for 5,000 years at the time was 3,000
years. Yeah. You know that that that's
not a anymore. It's it's at least what
we call nest. What's a nest? A nest is
everything's a nest. But once that
happens again and again, it's so it's
not why isn't it's not it's not god.
Why? Because it was already done.
It's not it's nothing new. We call it
because every moment but it's not a real
because it's happened from before. So
giving you know it's going that's going
with the that's going with the that's
way created and that's happening for
many many years. They're just continuing
that seder. Okay. Look at he gives you a
he gives you a hand. He gives you a he
gives you pranosa
is like
he's giving me
yes and turning it into
taking yes turning it into yes.
Where's this coming from?
This is a
so for the now to take back to take back
that that that take take back that leg
of gold.
So [snorts] that's the
right
a human being is able to to bead that
itself makes it a bigger right that a
little kid canain
is a much bigger right it's much bigger
than an adult can understand it that's
why
kid wow he could understand things I as
many adults going on this anime as a kid
fine we could then you could say the
fact we're going against the mad one way
and we're mad another way that's in this
it's it's not a because it's happening
for for a long time. So just the what's
going on what's the something different
bit different than the previous one
right this this is already happened for
the not there this is this is the seder
>> huh
>> no it doesn't have course he doesn't
have to but but it's it's in words it's
a process that started
triggered that process 5,000 plus years
ago process can and renew it renews it
renews But it's huh
>> say fine. Okay. You know each one of
these
and
I'm just bringing
what's the says here? What's the vert in
this? Why is
why is
first of all
you know this is worth explaining I'm
going
which is the
of and the and postmble
lays it out there in the context of
general. know that
no that's
I believe the next there's a ham
I think
two in a row basically these two
and then
are are from the
explain the process of
going from the time where there was.
So in general we know took place when
that in order for to take place which
we need before that
there's a few stages there's no there's
there's no there's no and then there's
four stages preabble post
what the four stages are different
and how they relate to each other and
this speaks about the pre is that until
the until after the
creat
it's perfect but all from his
perspective it's all in his head the way
the world on its own didn't have wasn't
self motivated. It wasn't a able to to
self
uh to repair itself. If it destructs,
well, he created is great. But then
glitches happen in the system. Once
there's a glitch,
so the system can't fix itself. It's not
built with that, right? It doesn't have
in it the the the tendencies and the
power, the ability to rebuild itself. So
that's why he created a gal but then it
all went south and even trying to help
and they couldn't do it was it wasn't
possible they couldn't actually fix
themselves after the marble they were
able to fix themselves and become and
that's where it started the process that
completely removed from the itself it's
elevated the world itself is able to be
part of the process as well but still
only on one level and then the
fine so the
sorry the iss
as we know it, we have today's post and
much later. But the core of that the
person is able to change your death. In
other words, there's your destiny.
There's your future. There's your your
buildup your whatever it is
and you're a good boy. You have a good
you have a good
of a
you can't really change your
other words to become a different kind
of person to go and transform the world
is post
to change the world is after the m so
that's a greater
than before and the brings us it
connects us to the lush of that after
the what does he see
is after the destruction of the he saw
everything's destroyed and starts
rebuilding
so it's
a completely new world was before
completely new world what was before is
the world that was created
that's the ultimate
>> [snorts]
>> from Briam until today, thousands of
years later with all the that happened.
It's notes not real. It's the same world
with with additions with with upgrades.
There's good stuff happened, but I can
call it
look at this. The way the Reb says it
the bottom of page 15 into into page 16.
Interesting. The saying is not so much
never stop.
So get so first when you get to what was
before. So the towards the bottom
the bottom of
that's a realish only could create
nobody else could do it. You mentioned
the technology
get the technology
over the years there were many one of
the wars many things
they came out with ideas so technology
technology radio television it's
Yet there's only create nobody can
create anything exists for only comes
from
even will come together
they can't create even a basic they
can't a fly a wing of a of a mosquito of
a fly they can't create everything from
only
it's a great new world. It's beautiful.
It's it's it's it's it's changed. But
it's not it's not like a new world came
out of nothing. It's the world from
before transition
made changes there
actually
new world.
that's making a new world. That is
something
that only could do. Only could do it.
That makes it every other someone does
other people could do it. But this only
could do
because this is
why
arts happen. Why?
Right. For
because for a certain
[snorts]
This is a new a new V. A new V. The
first day in the V.
Why is it's a greaterish than
creating the world? Because creating the
world is for theavan and the islain.
So I have to sorry so I have to say that
the kavana the
is a greaterish.
If one thing serves
for something else, the second thing has
to be a greaterish than the first.
>> All right. What's that?
>> First of all, what why can't the be here
to serve something? It's not a
>> huh.
>> That's a different part. Same thing. In
order you want to come, we want to come
now and make why there's why is greater
than
>> saying but but the saying the logic here
what's the logic you say logic over
there that what
>> saying that just saying just like
that that you can say that is for
so he have to say uses to create it has
to be adapted okay so basically like
this so If the was okay. So how does
that relate over here? We translate that
over here.
Did this great for what reason? For dear
that forces me to say that what
that that that
>> No, you're saying a bit of a different
dear. If it's here to that if it's to
serve something else, I want you
something greater for something lower.
>> Okay. So you say so you can't say you
can't so I wouldn't be based on that
logic.
So it would have to I would have to say
if if Yeshin is here to serve Yesesh or
Yesh
and Yesh is lower is is a simpler feat
he wouldn't do the first
for that
if I if
is not such a big is is more simpler
thing to do.
So why would he Right.
I'm missing something
in words itself. Why is it a simpler
thing? Why is it not such a great
because he already created
but without
we wouldn't come to that stage. We
wouldn't be able to do
fine. He wants
to be he wants because he wants
part of the butter is
there's no
there's no not
that's that's not the purpose of why
this is what he wants fine so he wants
in order for him to happen he has to go
through this. So he did this
why does aesh have to serve a
greaterish. So the most you could come
and say is yeah but but like based off
the logic you're saying based upani how
could something greater ser something
lower okay it's at the same level
so this
but but what does it you know what does
that mean what does it practically mean
okay let's say even some logic behind it
I understand creating shay of earth
let's simple English when you create
shay of earth I can't do it you can do
it no one could do it it's
can do it no one could create only
okay I understand what the is what's the
in taking something and making it
or
what is that and what makes it a greater
we're using sort of outside logic I have
to say that's a greaterish say that okay
so now that you have to say which first
of all that goes to what that logic why
does if oneish is here to serve
something else it has to be has a
greater and number two what exactly is
that greater
what's the
>> destroying something huh
>> what no what is let's go what is it says
there
end of next the call is to make
that that after that is the
why is it a greater he doesn't say that
because is a bigger is a bigger than
rather what makes a greater than
right has a because it's a if it's a has
to be a greater
invite
This rings what says what?
This is
yeah 23
in words he brings
but he doesn't bring the what makes it a
greater because there's a newbar in the
he just says the fact it's a greater but
what's why is it a greaterish we're not
using the other beer that we had till
the other there's a new beer here
everyone's holding the what's the
No, I'm thinking huh I'm saying is there
something now another cut that he goes
back to this after the a few later
here
is
and because it's aesh
39.
Okay. So, what's up?
Huh? What's
anybody?
>> Huh? You have the same question. Same.
You got stuck on this as well.
And
that's the
>> Okay. Yeah.
Yeah.
>> We're doing something.
So you're saying it different. You're
saying
you're saying that's similar to the
other bure and we said
but but here he seems to say one
right it's all there in the first
because this
so I have to say
okay so I'll
This is one
before I brought the Indian.
Yeah.
But is a bit more complex than that.
This that we say is conc. What's the
mocker for that? What's the mocker? Who
who said is conc? Where's it printed?
What does himself say in
where's
perman
rather the ishaz
Um,
see this? One second.
Second with noius.
>> Oh,
by the way, what's the tail? Because
what happens?
here. There's
there is a beer.
There's a beer here. What's the beer?
Why is
there there's no It's natural, right?
There it's natural. It's normal. There's
over there.
We're here. Here there's
and here there's
not a it's not
it's it's fact. It's it makes sense.
on it
and under
other places brought
that
is the of the deer.
What's
right that the has many many servants
and slaves and subjects that are all and
talk about his greatness and and do and
do what he wants.
But you bring the par
and he has a great time. What's saying
what someone put into its head its head
its mouth whatever it is into its system
to say it's just paring it right. So
what's the what's the why does everyone
love it?
There's something new. There's something
different. Something
where I'm I could I could build a house
in a regular normal place. Yeah. A
million years row
in the garbage dump in a third world
country. There you could build
So as much as
there's
there's a certain there's a reason
there's some sort of reason there's
so one of the look at there's there
in Um
no
and a few other places
that has two layers to it. There's
and there's
and this is
some sort of
he gets excited
it talks to him is meaningful something
special happens then there's a
concussion there's no
so that
and other places that's going
but there's a
yeah that there is
something different something new
was saying like this
wants a Okay. So now we say that in
order for this to happen
he made
the
of
that's why. So now feed feed this why
was
to get to the
that's he wants
now to the
if what he wants is the
okay. So that basically was him to do a
great
but what if
is a greater
that doesn't make sense basically so to
get a lower level
the the whole is for the
that will happen so for that
he did
a greater
And and then what's the from that he
made? What does he get? A smaller
it's a complete let down. It's
but you can't say that the first kadish
is not greater than not greater than the
next. You have to say that the secondish
is greater than the first because if not
he created and now took garnish. He
already got the the already happened.
already has a from already has a and and
of of is not adding anything because
where's the from look at this great he
did
if the whole the whole is what's in this
to the
so so this has
you'll say okay in order to get to that
let's do the first so number one is
serving number two so it has to serve it
How does it serve it? If it's lower, it
can't be a greaterish.
Can't be greater because that's the old
that's
one. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense.
connect.
And this is all P
also in later in
say
and
the way
about this in
Baz
Huh? I mention one. Yeah.
The first the first
is is
right. This is the
The it's not that the association of
with is because it brings more and and
as if
that it brings pleasure that that
a different
means that there's
how isosa
How is
how does bring in this world? So there's
different and different ways to be and
different stages in the different
says there is
this that brings in this world in this
world is because of the
right we change we take something that's
we make it into
a human being kept in
a human being kept
Who could be mad?
When I go and I as as a I go and I
change the the actual fabric of
creation. I make a shino.
So what am I doing?
and and he has and just like the he has
and he takes and he takes this and he
makes this and all of a sudden a person
wow how he able to to change this world
how we able to do this it's a the moment
I look around and I see a that is
right now in this world every time
you're something that
asks.
So it's not that we're doing mitzvah for
the
we're doing is that that is
and is
not for a different not for an outcome.
This is
>> the the
breaking this world that is
we do and we're somehow and then there's
like some is there some sort of uh Gil
hanging around this world it's it's
the fact that we're able to go you see
someone go and change this world like
how many people change the world very
few people call you look at history
there's like a few people that changed
the trajectory of society right changed
this world everyone looks up to them wow
Tremend it's a tremendous
come and change this world changing in
the world that's
and
the world also has in it and we through
through sort of changing the world
through going against the world we're
sorry something that's already here
>> right but that's
So when I say that
yeah
it's the is the
bas this what we're saying is what is
the abish there know in in the like in
the previous I said is why we sayish
So one reason you could say is Yeah. But
why does he want
the he gets a kick out of it? Yeah.
Is not that the comes out of it. He
wants Yeah. What is
conscious?
Is the idea the whole is what's
in the world. How is atmosphere
and you say this is impossible. This is
impossible, right? How is it? How is it
possible? We have to say it. There's
only could allow this just like having
kids. How's it possible?
It's the
so now why do we have to say it's a
greater
puss
very
good
is how does it manifest itself? How is
it in the world? By happened. So who
needs the the whole world? Who needs the
last 5,000 years in that we did
created the world. It's the greatest
>> and so that it's in the world. You see,
you see the world, you see the world
exists
and only could do that, right? Only only
that's possible. So So this was in the
world. So So happened the moment created
the world. That's right. Everyone's
little brains look around say how could
this world happen
looks around
till you find the so
who needs all after so I have to say
before even I have to say that there's a
bigger
because it's a bigger it's more
like
my heart is tremendous and only atmos
could create this
Amazing. And that's
brings it
that that is is is
right. You look at the
it shows you that has to be the fact
that the world exists, right?
is created of this world and yet that
that
world
because there's a greater that's going
to happen something that says that yeah
that's cool that's amazing and only
could do that but this is something that
that didn't
it's a bigger gill of in this world now
is what makes it right what makes it a a
bigger gilly What makes it a bigger and
what makes it a bigger fine
and
but the first the of of this logic of
why I have to say it's ultimate yes
ultimate because
to create or is in scholar through and
either way you say it the moment you say
that was for is for that
I have to say that's a great than in the
first one cuz in either case cuz it's
not a greater
would already be the would already do
the wouldn't be any purpose there.