Borer On Shabbos - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

See what you got. >> [music] >> I share with you a brea of really it gives us clarity in a very big and a very common sia. We had a sh where someone washed laundry and the laundry were put into a laundry basket and the woman felt very uncomfortable leaving it over shabas. So he wanted to take each one and put it away. Is that you're not really separating. You're putting everything in its place. That was one Shila. We had a Shil where someone had leftover soup and they don't want to put it into the garbage cuz then the soup would leak. So they wanted to put the whole soup with the luxur and the can everything into the sink. The sink strainer would hold back the solid and the liquid would go down. So this already sounds very intimidating. Using a strainer. Strain is a cleer. is that player another sh this is an interesting sh this is shisl the cup the basin and typically they have stackable cups and stackable basins and you can have like 20 cups one in the other one on top of the other in the other and sh is the first fellow to go to sleep he has to take out his cup from a pile of cups his basin from the the other basins Is that a problem of he's taking the good from the bad taka and he's not using a kay but he's not using it right away he's going to wake up many hours later I don't know how many hours we're not going to wake up the miad so taking out from a stack of cups is that considered is that considered using it right away so basically as you know and we'll soon see the common denominator of these shis are it's not your typical case of but I think what gives us the right direction is the poem the following [clears throat] the isra has two parts to it there's the and the typically in the mishkan there was either the or the herbs and that got mixed with means separating the from the So there's a miser and a to the question is if there's just a without a miser for example I give you a perfect example someone has a whole bunch of cutlery silverware in the sink strain in the sink drainer and they want to set the table now tonight for the next morning that's a power play you're separating your So the person had a brilliant idea. Take all the silverware and throw it on the table, a big table, an empty table. And now all the silverware will be separate one from the other. It won't be a voice. So the shil is there. There's no just throwing silver. But the is it's all. So the shil is is the you have to have both is one enough and that's the sh and we'll leave the rest to suspense how everything fits into this but let me just make the question a little moreish because the is that the there's the oldest in order to be it has to be you have to for a positive benefit. A person carries something to use. But if he carries something out of the house, he doesn't want it in the house, that's called still but it's not because he's not he's not using there's no positive benefit is getting getting rid of a problem. So is why or better how could ever be [snorts] it's always by nature? Well, what's let's talk about a simple case of you have a cluster of grapes and [clears throat] there's a few rotten grapes. So before you serve it, you want to put you take out the rotten grapes and you put down then you put down the cluster of grapes. The question is you're taking out those rotten grapes and you're not using it. you're throwing in the garbage. So why isn't there by nature? But that's foolish. It can't be because as we know is one of the had it been it would be so frank is the beginning of why is so is a big which really if you look very I saw also and see now says it also but the spells it out the most dramatically and he says you're making a mistake the is not taking out the rotten grapes that would be the is you have a a cluster of grapes and it's not uh it's not appealing they're rotten grapes so by taking out the rotten grapes you are actually being mak is very much and there's a very simple analogy we know is awesome. [snorts] Why don't we say is he's making the baby bleed but you're not using the blood is cutting off the but you're not using the so why isn't every the goofa there is because the is not cutting off the or making the child bleed. the is being maken the child from a from a to and that's of that's why there's that's why there's a is very much once we understand that is we can understand that maybe you don't need as long What is this? For example, you took all these silver that was one big and you scattered on the table. Even if we assume there's no but look you have it. It's it's so the is of could be is it or is it or maybe that's so let me make it a little more. We all know that is but when you we call it you take the [clears throat] good from the bad to eat right away and you're not using a ki that's m for example you have a cluster of grapes same so taking off the rotten grapes is a ma because you're taking out the rotten grapes but let's say you take the good grapes off to eat right away and you're not using a kay That's it has to be the good from the you have to do it with the hand not with the and it has to be to eat right away. In fact, one way remember he writes this about it about this this this way of remembering is so that's the head. Now you understand how that is because when you take the with the to eat right away that's a if you take the out you take the rotten grapes outcomes why are you taking out the rotten grapes it's not you want to be maken the you want to maken the cluster oh that's the problem so the difference between that's And any other case that's missing is awesome is when you follow the cloud that is considered if you take or or use a that would be a now we also understand people ask only if you take the good from the bad so why is it appeal I'm taking so if there's other choice you do it but that's not true but There's no choice. It's ridiculous. The terret is the way to eat grapes is take the good from the bad. You want to take that's but there's no other way to eat an orange. So the orange is the by peeling it. So this is the of which is perfectly and which qualifies to be So now we have a better understanding. Let's try to approach this lice. So first thing I want to tell you is unique means the fact that is either or now learn you'll notice that the bulk probably the overwhelming majority of is is [clears throat] the whole and and it's all much of almost all of [laughter] a lot of even of is only you'll notice that most of you encounter you'll look it up you'll see the first five says if you do it like this it's if you do it differently it's a nice way of saying or worse has that unique feature to it that either it's or it's and sometimes it's the difference between and but that's we have to walk we have to walk this road which we're going to try to do. So we're talking today we're talking today when there's a voice if it's not mixed up if you have on a table already that's not one next to the other it's not we're going to talk about a situation where it's where it's a is there any head so let me tell you a gor that gives us a great start the gmor is in it seems they had a a group of that that ate together they learned together probably they ate together and [clears throat] each shabas a different was the quote well this shabas was our turn to serve his colleagues and he had a basket of fruit that had in it so what what did he do he took the basket and threw it on the table so Rashi says a liberiz he didn't want to make a so what he did He scattered them on the table with this gathering with this with this throwing. He had a situation. He wanted to serve his friends. So he threw it on the table and each took what they wanted. Maybe it was apples and oranges and there was toyas. The kids each took what they wanted and he threw it on the table to avoid So someone asked for if you have let's say silverware all together and you want to separate them but tomorrow not for now is it says and it points to this says it's saying very good and hold it just like the hold Shabb and many place can point to this. If you have a situation of you have taking one at a time and separating it is but the same situation of scattering on the table is how do you understand that must be there and those that hold that same sheet to hold the isra is the separating forks from knives and spoons but scattering is not a You have the right now. Everything is is there's no without the Rabbi. He has a problem with this. And he says maybe throwing is a so you have a you have a pool and you have a he says I how do you learn to give? Why is Rabibi feel that we mut? He says because was doing it to feed them to eat right away. So that wasn't that was complying with the three conditions he's throwing on the table. So, it seems to me most seem to go that since you're not doing a and throwing is not a throwing happens to achieve it's now separate but it's not a so we could definitely say from when there's No, although there's a that might be help. So we can't just say 100% but definitely in this case. Now let me ask you the next question. Someone has a he made a sim. Okay. And you know some reason when you make a sim you get back more trays of cake than you put on the table. There's so much leftovers. But he has them as a bunch of stacked trays of different cakes. So he wants to separate them. He can't leave it on the table all day. And I guess he's not worried about because he wants to put in the freezer to keep it from getting uh you know dry, whatever it is. I'm not getting into he holds because he wants to put it away for an hour to keep it neat. But you can't put trays of cake in the freezer. So he goes and looks at his cup shake and cake whatever it is and he takes all the cake the cupcy cake in one bag and close it up puts in the freezer. So he separates all the trays on chabas and he's not worried about is that and why should it not be I'll tell you why because is here it's all good cake not spoiled cake so where should be my fact that he ends up separating cakes but it's all If on a tray of cake like sometimes it is someone took a piece of cake and left the other half behind and left for someone else half bitten piece of cake that's so taking that out that's but if it's all unouched cake laying nicely so it's both and this is the suff that has declares this that you're going to use it first next week whatever but not now but it's all now it's all they're both maybe there would not be a problem of so here we see a new factor if it's not and so it's not a at the end of the day it's all However, for us, it's very hard to understand because the he's going through the motions of he's separating cakes and he has a who said the entails having if you have taken good from the bad but taking two and separating them why and Gimmel argues very strongly on this and he says what do you mean he's doing a he separate trays of cake. He ends up all the cakes are why should this be justifiable just because the technicality they're both you're not using any now there's no and that's the but this let me tell you what they use that word now is not like it's I think it's a modern Hebrew word person know what it meant that if you have different cakes. It's all edible. But separating putting each one in its own different compartment that itself is a misa because you have a mish you have a tray of cake with different types and now you separated it. So although lisa seemed he first lin but at least we have these two clone that por scattering on the table most evidently there's no but which we're going to call sorting mean you're just putting each one its own place even though it's all but that does qualify to be a with And that would be us. >> The reason it should be is because there's no because each of the cakes are really >> No, we're talking I said before we're talking whenever. So if you think you're fine, you're right. I'm talking we'll soon see that if it's on a tray next to the other it is a voice. Yeah, we'll see soon. Good. You're asking good. But let I'm happy you. I'm talking only when there's a voice. The word is but some reason no says I don't you know but this is clearly you would talk when there's a okay now let's move on the next question is an absolutely delightful question but it gets us right to the of the [clears throat] let's talk about a basket of laundry okay supposed to wash the laundry Thursday and put it away Thursday they wash the Friday and Friday night it's an I can't I want to put them all away what about No, it's not what let's leave aside. But what about you have a real but this is mama's different meaning mom is different clothing I like cake and what you're doing is you're taking one taking one out and putting it away. So here there's an interesting point that has to be clarified. This in a certain sense is very is not because means you're selecting I'm I need socks from from this laundry. So if I take the socks to wear now is mut. But if I take socks out tonight to wear tomorrow, that's why because you're missing the that's why it would be us. But in this case, you're not targeting one one of the other. You're taking in English. You're taking randomly. You take out one, put it away, take out one. You're not selecting one from the other. So the is maybe that's not means you're targeting this one or that one. Here you take or maybe I'm taking one at a time. I'm taking a it's a real and end up being so very simil. So let me give you a little moreish to the let's say you have a tray of cake and it's so you want to take a piece of cake for your child for tomorrow morning when he goes to sh have a piece of cake. Now he doesn't want to wake up in the morning to give him the piece of cake. So the night before she goes what cake would you like? Goes I only want sevenlay cake. So now the mother's in trouble to take seven cake from a of different cakes is bling the good from the bad. I you're not using a kayak. Let's say the child is the atypical goes ma whatever you give me is good. I need a that's all I need. That would be you know why? Because all the cakes for the child are all so there's no it's not but but so therefore whatever you take is good. Is that similar to our case? No. The cakes are all one because they're all cake. Here it's different clothing. It's socks and it's undershirts and it's the handkerchiever but it's so different. So you have a and you have a miser. So this is what all again are very busy with this. This is what they call. It's unlike the typical that you're targeting one over the other. Here you're taking however it's not as good as it sounds. It's a you have a you're you're separating it. You're doing a perfect taking one after the other. And that's why the has a beautiful and he says people think that this independent and it's illogical and it's senseless. He says the fact that no one spoke about this you know there's no electricity in they didn't have it but they had and he says why didn't think of this and take give this the ter is that that's not a it's a mira you're taking one at a time and it's also a to >> why is that a m to take the top thing off >> why is it >> why it doesn't say because it's a >> the top is not >> every top. >> Okay. So every top you can say that but it doesn't make sense. It has to be that that a pile is considered but I want to get that. So he asking good. So this is what he wants to say and he and he says I was I was afraid come out I went this goes back in and they said now again goes with this and the and they all say even though it's not the regular but close enough he quotes his father that says this is not a and he says says I heard heard that he call the random selection not like he's saying so here we see something of great significance great importance and it's now I did see another make probably these are the only two that I found but was this is Rob the kaisel asked him of his nightmare his his weekly nightmare Friday night and shabas afternoon there are piles of swarm up you know piles and piles in the kisel and he can't deal with it people eat and everything's on the table so he said what should I do it's what's the problem like you [clears throat] said take one at a time and put it back on the shelf and he says the aim is So you have something assh and as integral and as applicable as this one and you put it back you put it among the >> why not once you hold that you can put where you want now but I'm going to tell you and that's the was asked the question if you have not tr of cake fish but the same idea here. Salmon, white fish, pike, whatever it is. One lay down next to the other. Not mixed up, not a ch. Just lay it down nicely. Is it better to put it away? Cuz you're selecting or maybe not. It's a tray. It's a It's a row of salmon and a row of white fish. Where's he says that it's almost unthinkable unfathomable to say that that's because each one is but since the says when it's I will not and it's I cannot be and the quotes this in other words we have We have to take the approach it's guilty until proven innocent something and he says but you could you don't do it. So this certainly applies to this which is much more understandable to say I mean every every pile you could have sudden take one time and undo it. So again it's with a beautiful let's move on now but we see the following let's just be terminologies we have the concept of being we have that most we have that almost all the and we have that almost all the now let's apply this more specifically so first of all when someone has a cluster of grapes and he wants to serve it. So either prepare before but pulling out those grapes is which is even to use right away. Now when he had one to someone took a took a grape to eat nothing wrong that's but his mazo it was a half rotten grape and more he's anish person so he got all nervous he asked because he ended up taking the so it's not true first of all if the if the grape was partially edibly part of it so it's not totally and also it's totally in the fact says Let's see a person took something to take the mistake took the out. So it's like a there's no there's no doa here. The kavana is the difference. So if someone took out the raw grape or the half wrapped one and there's no to eat it or throw it back in the pile once he took it out is a question. Someone has leftover soup or whatever it is and they put it in the garbage, it might start to drip out. So you want to throw it in the sink. Now the problem is in the sink the strainer. A strainer is a real bonafide. So why should it be mut? He's using a clea. But here we see how it gives us a good insight and a similar not soilless. See till now we're handling but when two soilless they can't be our soup when it's going to be spilled in the sink soil. There might be very delicious but if you throw in the garbage there's all so there might be a because there's a strainer but there's no there's nothing they're both going down the drain. So that's why the was asked the shil again from I don't see the sh if I go then they're both there's no there's no ta points out some people are afraid to be have to so they take off the sink strainer he says you're not really getting because deep down real deeper down in the plumbing in the piping there's a sort of a strainer that holds back big pieces. So you're doing a mur anyway. The only thing is that if you use a strainer, you won't have to call a pl after he's rubbing down the sink, it's going to get stuck in that semi- strainer. So this is a unique which sounds so intimidating. It's a true but there is no and there wouldn't be an isa of now when you're cleaning a table and assuming we'll soon see but assuming it's all so then you can throw it all out you could separate you could take the old pl the dirty plates the cups if it's no if it's nois because it's both so and not being the of any significance this would not be an issa Oh boy. Now, of course, the American Shil is, but they sold a bottle on the table and you know, you want to put it in the recycling at least. I don't know New York, you know, must put it separate garbage and you're getting back a nickel per bottle. So maybe Todd bottle that's redeemable or usable might be a oil in this respect, but typically shouldn't be a problem of question. Someone is given the job after the suda. We need take out the from the freezer. So he opens the freezer and he can't see mish in front of him. He has no idea where the kala is. Go find it. Now obviously that's a right. If you can't find it. So someone asked me is it an if he just puts his hand in without moving anything and just feels oh this and he'll pull it out. I said, "Wait a second. If you're taking me out to eat right away, it's mutual." But the problem you're taking out now to use later. So the fact that you didn't have to move anything to get to the who cares. Here you're getting you're taking the but you're not using it right away. So the fact that you know where it is or you put your hand to feel it, that's fine. But to pull it out, you're taking the good from the bad, but it's not miat. But the sha is, but what should I do? It takes three hours to defrost. So if you're taking it out 3 hours before the shall, we'll talk about that in a moment. But you take it out now so you won't forget for later. So you're taking out 5 hours before this next suda. So that's not beyond. So even though he's taking taking out the good from the bad and he's taking it beyond it's not and it'll be awesome. But this is what he says. He says even if you take it out 3 hours which you need for it to defrost, it's still not means to use it right away. Who says you have a grace period of 3 hours because you need 3 hours to defrost it? If you take out an onion from a mixture of other vegetables and you're using it now, it takes you half hour to cut up the onion and get it ready. So that's all. But if you take it out and do nothing for 3 hours, you're not doing anything changing in the [snorts] has this I know it's that's al if you take it out to use right away or cut up the you take out an onion to cut it up and then and put it here and you're you doing something with it. But just take it out to be ready for 3 hours. He hold that's not considered the other are the same I I need the the natural time but no doubt about it it's definitely a good idea once you get used to it it's very simple before shabas whatever you need on put it in the front of the freezer it's a good idea take off all the frozen meat that's on the door of the freezer which you open and close you have tilt and all the put the meat raw meat in the back of the freezer put the in the front once it's discernible once it's noticeable question but is an interesting let's say you have a eggshell on on the eggs so that's a consideras moving it to moving it slightly to the side as long as it bides the same that would be okay see in the freezer you're taking it out and entirely but if you move it slightly but the is blind but it's not so noticeable that is more. But no doubt about it, the fact is that when you have a taking it out, it has to be. And sometimes we make that mistake. We don't see through the the the misleading point. I'm doing it to use it. No, you're not using it right away. That's not another question, and that is regarding silverware. Now, let me explain. Setting the table Friday night after the ifab is morning should not pose a problem. Obviously not because [snorts] and if you want to set up the table the is no problem because in the in the the silverware each one is in its own compartment the knives the forks it's not a if it's not a it's not a m but it's often the problem a person has a so so when they wash Friday night you put it into the the dish drainer you put it in and bunch of them together and it you know it dries naturally and you want to set the table. Problem is right now in in that trainer it's all it's all different types of me and he's setting a table for tomorrow. So he's not using a true but is not he's taking the good from the bad true but it's not. So the sh is what's the is there a bas let's say he has by the suda Friday night a mixture of different cutlery and he wants to wash what he needs. So you can take out a fork and wash it a spoon and wash it. That's fine because you're doing you're taking it out to use right away. But here you're setting the table at night for the next morning. So you're not using a kay and alter and that's a problem and that's why if you do want to set the table either you could take all the silverware that when they're clean and scattered on the table you have a head someone asked the following question just like I'm allowed to take out one silverware to wash it right I need a fork I'll take it out to wash right now so why should I be a bottling and put it back in the drainer and make is I'll take it out, dry it, and put on the table. I said it. He's right. Once you did the initial ba because you're taking the good from the bad to use it right away to wash it. So you have the fork in your hand. So hold it and put it down. So if you wash them and put them back in, make it then you have a problem. So you take it out, wash it and put it on its place. What's what is a problem which goes unnoticeable? Let's say you know everything you have to wash everything in this basin except for the soup spoons. So to save time I'll take all the soup spoons out and put them on the side. That's a you're taking out what's toilet which you don't need. But once you're washing you lot whatever you need that's you're washing for now. Now now is the mi and then once you have it don't be a and put it back. Washing now for tomorrow. School now. >> Why not? >> What? >> You want to you wash when you want? >> It's not for the next one >> and clothing. >> You want You always wash now. I should have mentioned another point which if all the silver are usable the only question is it's all like it's all it's all what you need it's all so you're not you want you're taking one from this usable and use it but it's more than that I I think the is incorrect when you wash something and this is a time to wash it this is what you need now you're not doing tomorrow you're washing my now you know you're right I'll tell you one of the if You have a bunch of silverware and they're they're wet. So take out one to dry it is because that that that's the now and later you can put on the table. See that already is an for tomorrow. But washing a person doesn't want the the the sink to be full of dirty dishes overnight. So now is the time if now is the time now is the time to wash. But that's the they say this taking it taking out want to dry it. Oh my head. Then I'll dry it and put it back on the table. That's a question. >> You have to put it. >> Can you put it? We're closer to time. Lost. I'll answer the question afterwards. >> The next question where we started with with a variety. We started with the question about laundry. Taking and put it away and most can hold. That's a How about if you take out one at a time to fold it? Let's say it's foldable laundry. So again, it's the same of you know it's allian perception. Do we say that folding is a and it's a so once I have it I can put it back in the drawer or no folding is really step one or stage one of put of sorting laundry. That's really the putting your laundry. So again washing dishes drying them is that independent or folding laundry is that that's what this there's there's some type of type of descent in the now the best of course with laundry is you wash Thursday like dictates and put it away put away Friday but shabas the laundry should not be folded and put away if you have a good arm and you can take the laundry and scatter it all over the for so then it's if P but then you're making the laundry dirty you're going have to wash it again so it's time but if you can employ the of that's very helpful today's toy the world of toys and you know but after a game is finished to put back each each piece in its own box is the but that's that you're not using so That would be a problem to be of making a if for some reason you could want to put them back on and if it's if it's feasible take all the mixed up toys and pieces scattered on the floor once you scattered it it's not it's not a then you have to worry about perhaps this should be a problem of now cleaning the table. So let's go and order the the the plates. So past we have to say the starting point is taking the these cutlery from on top of the plates. So here the say again it's the way we conceive things. It's only but this on a plate is not a and that's why cleaning a plate is also not just like washing dishes of it's not enough of one to make it there's no of including a plate that should be now says if you have a stack of plates you can put it in the dishwasher instead of putting in the sink. Even though it's step one to wash, but it's not a because you want them to keep the kitchen clean. You don't want to have dirty dishes in the in the sink, but it's to take the plates and once you're putting in the dishwasher, I might as well put each one its own compartment. So that that's number one and number two, it's because stacks of plates and different sizes that might be a issue. So in a case where a person wants to put in the dishwasher, put them in bulk in groups and put them just the way it is and after Shabas you will straighten it out. Now that's as far as dishes are concerned. Cleaning a table has its own unique issues. I'll give you a good good example and I go to a camp. I'm in yeshiva and you know it's as you know and the table after looks like a bomb hit it. Let me tell you a child we had once the way they asked me in the camp I go to some place on this table there's a salt shaker I have no idea where it is I have to take it out I want to fold it the whole table throw in the garbage but I can't throw this the salt shaker it's not disposable so what do I do so I told him well do you know where it is now is it yeah so what do you want to do I told on asked what's the he got at one of my dial If you tell me it's a and you're not using it right away, so it's but but it's my job to clean up the table. Good. But it's not take it off the table now. But I'm putting there but that's not so he said maybe could I take the salt and eat some of the salt like people that make salt. So you have to know works by but if your starting point it's a then you talk about so that's now let's talk about at home so typically at home everything is on the table but it's not like a mixture of it doesn't have the perception of being so there's no about that has you know people come in waves 800 million 830 million 930 million so he wants to clean up so we have to make Look, you're taking from if you tell me it's a and you can't have people come to a you got to be careful. So if you you clean it more often every so every few moments you you reduce it to a nonibus that's okay but the point is like who said there's an thing there has to be a plausible sensible so that's why in a camp and yeshiva make sure the table doesn't reach crisis level of being a if it does maybe put the soul shake on the side before you start but this is an issue now as someone asked me a sh which might be connected his wife's ring fell in the garbage. Don't ask you know why or how but that's what happened. So fishing it out of the garbage on that. So no doubt about it a small ring in a garbage is so a m fishing in the garbage you're inevitably touching moving if there is such thing you know in American garbage is always some but then again there's always some if there's a bones that so that's much easier because even though it's taking it out to use the ring right away so then there would be I mean whatever ring type But here the soul shake is being taken out for many hours later and that's not the time of the from one to the next they prepare the soul shake six hours in advance that tab is a real problem of >> you push away the garbage you don't see the ring pushing >> what's the difference so that's says you want to look for your coat you move all the coats so you have all the see the ring is a beautiful to be a half for itself but it's you have to worry about but at the end of the day at least it's some it's a foreseeable alter the soul Jacob again only. He puts it to takes out the whole table, puts it in the garbage bag and makes a shabas come back and take out the soul shaker. That's his responsibility. But you know, you know, please dial me. I'd love to hear from you. But as this seems to be a problem now, someone asks me, he he served his child a main course and he's not touching. He's not moody. No, he wants to put it back. Is that considered? So he's not using any of the food now. And says if it's it's even though it's still but here the question is really and who's made the portion you have a nice loving grandmother that the plate is full to capacity and one's touching the other and everything the table you know it fits everything onto that plate that's if it's close enough that it gives you a perception of but if it's each and it's not the you know then You could say it's not even for many hours many hours later another one second another question I want to tell you also is again by regarding the very big question of so the embassies that unfortunately you know the way it should be and this is my dream yeshiva and there shouldn't be a gab you [snorts] put back your own safe I mean that's the the simplest thing in the world it's we who say and I mean how much how many greens do you need you know you don't need saying even worse you know I don't know those signs that's until the comes we have problems so is it is it true he put back farm it's a because it's a pile and and a different swarm no All kaducian if you have a kaducian is all but a so it's a voice no doubt about it so some people don't learn a whole week they might learn on but the most I'm not going to say but I think it's understandable that most hold swarm on a shelf and on the spine is noticeable what what safer it is so even though it's taka you I can see you got all so you could have 20 and each one's a different different saf but if they're laid on the on on a in a shelf that's not a that's what assumption is a moist says at night when and there's no light in the room so even if it's labeled could be it's a because you can't see it which kind of very negate because you want to go get a safer but you know you have a child sleeping and you study so you you go in and you open the door a little it and you can see it fine but take out one you know which it is but if you can't see it could be that would be a that's but no doubt about it that on a shelf the should not be a but all those seem to agree that it's on the table in a pile that's laying you know on one top of the other and one goes this way one the other way and you have to crane your neck to see and get the safer that's not that's not That's that's so the is you know put it all in the so the best would be if we put it he says it twice I'm not sure exactly what he mean I think I know where he's coming from I don't know what he think he means he says part of learning I think what he means to say is that's part of the That's part of the the you finish learning, you put back a safer. He says, "No point. Put it back by by piles of because even though you learned with them and you're putting them back, but that's part of to put it back. They say if you don't put back the you don't put back to the place, you don't get from learning. Mor says if someone does a touch as you're doing the the Quran says he thinks that not putting back is maybe whatever the case is we're looking at it like part two of taking it out. So that they're taking it out. That's what seems to say. But all do agree that when there's a you got a problem. So if someone's a big lamdon, let them be a lambd after you finish learning and put the don't pack them up and then say what am I going to do? Take a few at a time and hold it in your you know two hands and you hold one in hands and your arm. Don't let a but make sure the swarm get back to the blade. That is the what we have to try to achieve. What should a what should a do? So this was the question that was asked Raosa and he said what's the problem and you said one at a time and you're okay our banquetss we agree but since most pis did not accept that we have that problem there is an ata believe it or not you're a good because typically when you have piles of swarm on the table you have empty shells on the wall so what you could do is you're allowed to take a pile of swarm which is a terma and put it into the the swarm shell so you did was you made a new type of pizza but you took a which on the table it is because you have to turn this way you grabbed it and you put it into the shell so that would be a longness that you're making without such you might put back this let me leave you with two beautiful I'd love to have the I don't typically like but this seems to be more than just and here's a question is of as we called It's [clears throat] it has to be have a real mixture. It's not it's not a soil. So why then is it discusses the question of a a layer of fat on on a on a piece of meat or orange peel on an orange? No. It's on the outside, the inside or on the side. If there's a point of connection that makes it one that is the it's not physically mixed but it's mixed in the fact that in relationship one to the other. [clears throat] So someone asked me and these are Tak has the the theatoon at a young age he once had a he took a the camp we have disposable plates plastic plates so he used a plate for the s he's about to throw it out and he noticed that there's a clean plate on the bottom. Now typically especially the cheaper bowl cheaper plates they stick pretty much together. So it's rare to get one at a time. You have to waste separate it and it's not just you know separate like cup one from the other. It's like a little of a so the is throwing the plate as it is. He's wasting it's can't whatever but then again taking off the bottom plate should be not he finished eating. So is that considered enough of a to make it an is unless he does it to you right away? I don't know if you know but is that enough to make it a a if you need so you need patience you know you have to have patience to get it off it's like very frustrating it doesn't come so think about that but the last is the desserts for today and that let me give you for those you that haven't a long time let me remind you the have that's cups and the basins and they're stack stackable they're all the same ice. It's very convenient. It's very nice. You see like 20 cups and 20 basins. Now, let's talk about the early early to sleep baker. He comes first and there's 25 cups. They all look the same. They're all the same size. So, he wants to prepare his neck. Now, typically don't don't get up, if you know what I'm talking about. Might be a little longer than that. So there's no [clears throat] so what's the and the if they're all the same type of cup and it's a now if the understanding in yeshiva is like we say you know so then all the I could use whatever I want but let's say each one has their own and each one takes their own and there's no unspoken rule a spoken rule instead it's also believers So then yours is not mine and mine is not yours. So it's like two different meaning the only sha is wait a second good but I'm taking the good mind from the bad right and I'm not using a can but here we come to a sensitive question is that considered because I'm filling it up now I'm first using it many hours later it's filling up the because it's >> it's like washing the dishes we said before it's like washing the dishes we said before you wash So here some say that I think that's wrong. I think it's Roman is not there's no we'll give you a anyhow is a very means this is not as it's that is when there is an so the washing dish is no there's no step one to step two you wash the dish that is the but in washing filling up the negasa even though it's a big mitzvah you're not going to see all the I heard all different kind I know and I also I'm not you know I'm not taking it lightly but the end of the day that's step one to washing the is the dying in the morning this is an this is this is a not a so why shouldn't that be a real so the if each one of the stack but each one he writes his name in it And looking at it, you could just see which is yours. So if you create it in a non situation to if you really want the first could be and fill up the negat they're all they're all which is make it happen [clears throat] too soon. But what could be also if you want but at your own risk you make it there take the old thing and throw it on the floor and pay for all the broken cups. What I did see a new but again might be debatable so we'll debate it right right away and that could be a new that maybe the is different cake and honey cake is two different meaning washing cups which they're all the same assuming they're all the same the same quality the same amount of content it's just a bless mine versus yours even if it's an albar attitude but at the end of the say it's so when you have something that's different you have two different tastes or two different color socks that makes it if it's all the same cup in its function it's just bas does not make it into if it's not there's no