Does This Room Require a Mezuza? - - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

Let's get [clears throat] this. >> [clears throat] >> I'd like to welcome everyone to Smith. Does this room require a sponsor email.com Smith? Recently there was a problem with the muza in the dorm and the question was who's m to put up a new muza in the dorm. Typically you move into the yeshiva there's a there's a muza there but this was a question of putting up muza is the on the yeshiva and the on the the we had another interesting shil where the there was there was a yeshiva that went for the first month of the summer they went to camp and there was no muzas in the entire premises and they b were very upset and they said no there's no it's a yeshiva it's less than 30 days so I had enough of a a impetus to decide We're going to learn the is a muza on a on a yeshiva on a camp. I know most of you not in camp or yeshiva any longer but it touches upon the of the in many different ways as well. But we have to clarify the one you cite for today is why should I think that yeses should be from after all this on the bias and this a bias this medish is a bias and is a bias in fact we say or so [clears throat] why should it be even then yeshiva or a camp or a bish is part of and the embassies in the garita that holds a aesthetus. Now we'll soon see basicuses today is pretty rare but a basicus means a place that's only used for davening. Now if you remember throughout the word does not mean a caner means ashish the one that's he is in charge of the so if there's a living on the premises so then the but if there's no there's no for the so right away we see which we ask is if there's no one living there points out that is like and if no one's living there is part of so now we have three questions we have to clarify why is that so okay we we learn with a we live with a but we don't learn with amun we have to know And if it's a good reason why is why didn't the Gmorra say is any different and the third is for some reason why is making it anything different. So why is a basic? So if you look at Rashi in the top of the next Rashi says it twice that a basic is where a lot of where there were there were people got together. So since it's open to the public the rashi seems to be saying the of is one word you have to own it your private house you own the the that's owned by the there's no bless and you can't say if it's not yours the next rashi in contrast to a basic because and it's like a bias of soi is definitely saying that the of is because there's no it's owned by the but there's no basis in says in that is potter. But we know a shi seems to say that has a muza. Why? So says those that were privately owned they have and the is talking about a privately owned that's sois like rashi is saying the fundamental is your house if it's not your house your we understand two things if it's a bas privately owned it's is we'll soon or but we also understand why a living there is enough cuz now it's a he has a there's there's a he's living there and it's his bas either he rented it or he bought us whatever it is and this is reason number one based on rashi that the reason why basic is because it's no there's no bas now I do know that v of inflamm is an he says that's not mas it's only in the also seem to say it's not a masa but most pisk seem to assume that this is the first reason why a basic necess is and again once you know the reason we'll go through all the different shas but then we have a few words of the raam every word of his is precious the listen to the company that the bas is Bazor they're all from then but are also why and what's the bases tokash why why they because they're kesh And as the point out the Rama is based on our Goram says that a from why they soesh now says it's still strange. So what if it's I mean is it maybe is there a problem of too much like a maximize is that basic said that it's like what's the what's going on it because it's too too much something wrong with that. So here you have a very important someone asked that says but also says what's the real reason and then someone asks a real typical Frank this personif of their but the bas How could be only could say this? The of aes is because the is your bias. But a says I'm going to make I'm going to be in your with his eyes was able to see when you look at a basic it's not a it's not a regular it's the if we had the eyes we would see and and the medish in the Hashem's house. Okay. You call the basic but this is the he calls it is the mishk of the so the is not because it has the is because it's not a it's the house it's a bias that added it's not because of but it's the identity. This is the Bashem. So is why it's not your house. It's the Bernam's house and now everything is adds a few words that because it's MD and it's not your bias. So now we have the Ram's reason the second reason it's not your bias again. And then there's one more reason and that's the says probably it's not made for normal living. So what's he saying? He's saying very the B gave us a mitzvah to put a muz on a house. A house means normal living physical gashm is living. You eat, you sleep. The of dining is much more important than all the in the world. But is not it's not again it's but he's also learning the is in the bias that you live normal living is more important but it's not the again we understand that when the lives there there's a because that's normal living and if you look at the mlvakana and They all quote this lavush it's very very easy to understand if b means where you live you live one place you d a different place but the the ding is not living so the we have rash and says it's not a bless ra says it's the baseem and the bush says it has to be normal regular living now they're all true it's not a steer necessarily it's from different angles but what's interesting is besides in that are basic in a totally different context talking about when you go by why says because there's no whenever there's no really that true listen closely the last so what's the saying that when there's no muz but what if they give an example two examples and unlike that left that says only and we could be media maybe this is clear as day it's both and this is why since it's two and is unless the living there it's based on I will soon get back to the bases. But say today it's rare to have a bases. A basic was a place exclusive exclusively for Davening RNA used to explain like he remembers when he was growing up in after the Shamish wait everybody left he locked up the door till tomorrow morning it's off limits he closed it was together but it was only for dinging [clears throat] used to say where you see this in in the in The bases never had a mus why not it was a basic I was thinking now neighborhoods even though there's probably two shs at every block but there's not a basic neesis bhuda bethl vin maybe there's more but those that I know of in flatbush I know con medish has upstairs basic nestes but washington heights obviously has old minig but it's kat not rare to find a place only for now the beginning of says a real basic necess you don't have to there's no it's not a and he brings but the and more especially all add that since today's there is learning going on And there's a so again the place can say the min in some they do put up a muza but let me tell you if you see a place like in the Washington Heights and other places there's no muza it's 100% correct if there's no learning if it's only a ma there's definitely no of muz now the question I saw and brings out the point a lot clearer we know a muz is dka in in the house that you're living, that you're eating, you're sleeping, a base, a base. Today we'll call it a storage, a garage, a warehouse. No one lives there. There's no steam. But storage is so ask a very interesting question. the the the bases is is potter the basic but maybe it's like a bas it keeps the chairs and the tables and whatever you keep there so it's also very posit for a basic is like the basic so and at the basic nasis so too is the base someone else asked a question also I think I saw one of the asked When you have a kazin, he puts a a on his door. Maybe she put a zuza on the front of the base of because it's like a entrance into the base of the kazin. We know there's something called the bash a room leads the other one. The ter says pretty bluntly is you're making the basic neess like an entrance into your house. You can't make a compound out of a basic neess, but you're making it a bash. unthinkable. Okay. So this is basically basis. The next question which is probably is a this is one example is this any so the is that it's today and yes so you might say since it's only for ding and ding is not that long it's ba medish hopefully withh but even today working people are learning hours in the morning and hours at night maybe we'll say that the is more than and the calls and and as words it see that So there's definitely a to say and maybe we could even add in the of the of the of the says maybe it's a and maybe we could also say for us first of Well, we said there's no that I mentioned I you'll ask me that I mentioned in the end of quotes both that there is true but is explained You know why? Cuz it's private place of the So now we could say is even more easy to understand. Think about the reasons. Let's say you have a typical yeshivish that's owned by the I'm not talking about we'll get soon to a private Bish, but let's say a regular baish. So the same it's not yours. The Rambam's reason is certainly applied again has more than Besses. So certainly Bashem the Lush's reason also applies to Ba Mish you only learn there. And then there's also a remarkable chuva aneworthy chuva I should say the Maram Rutenberg in Crimina Simmon Kuf quoted for a number of points but it seems in times of Mam Rutenberg there was a prevalent custom not Mic was wrong Minnik that people put a muza on one on the front door only. So he bemons that fact and he says I have to give ma cuz if people know what a muza is how how important it is they wouldn't be on I'm not putting up muza and then he says don't think it's just one in fact in my house by shalom listeni I think that we have 24 muzas now he didn't have a mansion trust me let me explain he said I did I made a muza in the basement of my house and also and I gave rooms to the I guess he had a dormatory also called he got a room. So he he concludes and therefore every room needs a muza. Now what we do see he made a muza on his base majish. Oh so maybe this base maj needs a muza but it's not convincing. It's a this a private base majish he had in his house. So therefore it's not really but the adds an important point the ra and this is also in the Russian muza back they both give a little history why takutenberg put on his ba mish so he says originally he didn't put on his ba mish but what happened was when he was sleeping I guess he slept in the base of mish he was bothered or attacked by Roy. So he realized it's time to put up muza. So he put it up really because he got a message from Shay. You need a muza in the dash was asked this somebody asked him. He put it up because he wanted the tour in the end of pi says you know how to put up to get the mitzvah. So he didn't put up because of he put it up because he got a message that he said I get the hint he got a directive you better put him [clears throat] so we see that the is the we mentioned earlier is that there is a maybe some say it's only because it's a so it's definitely very not but listen the way the bio puskins So there's a there's a and there's a that's so the because he found such a an uncertainty you need a muza but no braha. Now it's interesting people say today but muza is so expensive you know maybe it doesn't apply. I say one thing I'm not going to ask you how much paid for your house but people are paying 1.4 4 1.5 million, right? How much do you spend renovating? There's nothing left. I can't afford it. First, buy the muzz and then you can renovate. You know, go first. But anyhow, it's a drop in the bucket for the one point whatever you pay for the house. But be that as it may, the is really saying, but you could do it. Why not do it? And that's the way you see from me. So definitely the isasking its but the to put it up what no right we'll soon see that's very challenging when you have a muza in medish why you're making we'll get to that soon but the explains because it's there it's there so this if you would see Even without a you can't be critical of that. It's a good idea to have it. There's no does say the following. Since you're putting up muza, try to get a from somewhere else. We'll soon see some parts of a isuza. Let's say the Rev has a study, Rev has an office or the Reb has an office. So that's a private room that's very similar to the so you make a on the R's study and like go from room to room and put up a we do that on on PE we make a it's on one house then we go to the uh garage and if you go to the the your workplace the says according to since the some hold try to get a from a legitim We do that with make on what's definitely and that is everything else. Another point making it more practical is again you make a bra have in mind both rooms and don't talk out in between room to room at this hour to expand the almost doubled it and the dining room and then there was a obviously there's many many new doors so he said this you make a on the dining room that's we'll soon see and then without talking go put in the base. Now, of course, people say what is Hig. Exactly. Because it's Hig there's no braha. So you make a bra on the dining room and go without talking to the B to the B and make the and and put up the there. Now the place can say although not every is I mean is learning before after but in the day there's a pretty big gap but make as long as it's open for doesn't have to be a day and night or even the whole day a medish is one that's more than a bases even if it's not many more hours than a basic has the same have a basic nest a basic I'm sorry now today especially in the newer neighborhoods that you can't build sh because of zoning laws many shoes are in someone's basement so he has a regular basement and he makes a out of it so that would be more similar to of that according to but let's realize one thing the reason of only one of the three reasons the Raam's reason applies in a private base misha it's only for ding the reason applies. So therefore the basement what we call the basement really should have muza because it's not like a private base or maybe it is but it's only one of the reasons but more importantly we should add for those that have only a shabas minion because during the week people could drive to shul but in the newer neighborhoods they have no shul and there's no you know foreseeable they have in people's basement but the rest of the week it's a private basement that T will be much more smart to say because that's a probably the whole week except for the ding hours. So the word private has to be applied properly. The next question which is a not a new phenomenon in his days he writes the fact that people made you so this is famous they to be a place to get together for for to eat together and they also da the ba medish is really more accurately called a steel stable house and his lion is it was made that you could do what you want. Someone told me he was there when built and he said he's for a base for to come together eat it together because that's really what his said that's what a medish is it should be a place of so this realize this is a much bigger than a base of if you tell me you built it with it's a it's the house. So that has an impact on more than a because this and that's why it's reasonable to assume that on this even if it's a big huge you could make a it's my house you want to come d in there okay we're going to eat together we're going to have and we'll dive in I looked into this say if indeed it's made to to be a B why not put up [clears throat] what I did see in the ley that's the he was asked a question by when the built his big mag so he wanted to make a on the front door cuz he made it into so was not happy he says you know what make the bra on your private room office and you mish maybe he felt that It's dabing there and it's mostly dabing. But this again the the themed is much more of a reason to say it's than means it's my house. It's like someone that he donates the dining room to shabas but still it's still a dining room. So the the was to make a a very big huge stable even though you ding there a few times a day. Look who's doing today and today thousands of people ding on a daily basis but that's was his prerogative. So certainly that is more of a to hold his muza. I did seek someone asked about this question. He goes [snorts] he was skeptical if you could even make a to go to that extent like assumption as well. the rub's office or secretary's office makes no difference would be enough that you can make a on that office because although it's not at night they don't sleep there but we hope to do in a different sh that the conception is a misconception there's the da when you sleep there we on a store on a business where no one sleeps is so it's reasonable that someone has a private office whether it's the ro or the secretary makes no difference that's theirs that room is and that would be the an to make a um on that now the embassy is tak has to be done right even though it's a fundraiser making a lot of money and it's important but you have to do it right you have to find the to be said on a room that's now the says you can make a even on the rough study and the rest of the rooms no because is not the is the pictures. Don't forget that's the real kibba and that's what it's all about. So the fundraiser would suffice with the braha on one room and you could travel from room to room. The washing room typically every has a washing room. So the washing room that connects to the bis that some say is it's like sort of like a bash into the basis. But today there are many but that have especially big ones they have a room with sinks just for washing. So in a certain sense that might be more of a more of a than the bes because the base is learning and this is washing. This is like washing maybe like and say that a washroom would be in a muza is quoted in that it was that you make even when you put on going into the washroom many can feel that the washing is part of the ding you're not taking a shower with it's washing for so it's bottled to the of ba So the again this is I can't say it's a vi but if you understand if room has the right dimensional it might more than the ba medish a very common room today in every sh is a coffee room sometimes it has more population than the bish but doesn't have the kadusha this is this is real so The Rambam's reason and little Bush's reason certainly don't apply. This is not the Bashem the coffee room. This is not what you're doing. You're only you're eating and drinking. The only question is if it's tak a a so there's no there's no ownership to in this coffee room. But I did see a number of say that since you have this uncertainty number one maybe it doesn't belong to anybody specifically. So we have Rash's reason and number two some say it does give you're not eating breakfast it's part of like a ding so the coffee room would be but probably it's best believe again you can't lose by not making a bra when you have a suffic now the only issue you have to know is if the room is less than dollar now typically the courtroom is a small room and most of the room is parts of the attached to the wall like the the cabinets and the sink. If there's no open space of dollar valid that might be another reason to part from because it's it's missing the the minimum amount of dollar 6 ft by 6 ft. But here as we know there's a quotes it who says a beautiful when is a when the room is supposed to be bigger but you made it small so it's not a functional room so if you have a room that you see you know it's a very important room it's used all the time so just because it's less than dollar is not a the less than dollar aldalled is a sim not a it's probably not a good room. But if you have a room that you use and less than that, that's the you should put a on a coffee room even less than now I'll give you something to think when you get home. a little homework also discusses a room less than dollar and he says less than dollar is not forget it but first go into the coffee room measure it now no but now when you walk out of the coffee room into the base med or into any room for that matter so maybe the coffee room is because it's going into the next room according to where do you put the muza the right side going in or the right side going out obviously the right side going out is really going into the room so here you can you want to say it like and says that's the meaning like we put it going out of the coffee room into the next meaning is like what's the meaning in Brooklyn? You tell me. Get back to me on that one. But you can think about it. If you have a suffic maybe there's another suffic because some agree to some don't some don't. So it's something to ask a sh but it's really you can't satisfy both opinions and don't put up two that's for sure. Now lama again the today a lot of is people look strange where's the muza so you put it up but you have to know if it's less than dollar let's find out which way to put it a very interesting question which is crowded better than it seems is an esnim a typical esnim that's not used during the week should be less than a bas maybe less than a basic don't forget It's not a it's not a coffee room. It's not a washing room. It's a place. But then again, it's not and wants to say he's saying it's a basic and there's no going on. It's used on chabas and yam. So it's less than even the basic of today that we put in. It's a regular half used basic. That's all it is. Again, it's a smaller women might feel like why we're not important. So the min is you definitely put up muza but no doubt about it should not be said on the on the now today especially in in lakewood where there's so many yeshivas many are rented during the week for for no if it's a yeshiva like a but basically the nshim is like the oldfashioned with limited usage only for the weak Shabasive days a sim hall that that today have at pa to bring in to generate an income. I'm not talking about those that have a dining room that's also used as a as a like ina or a terrace kaya. I'm talking about something that's only used by the caterer not by the yeshiva. And if it's used by the yeshiva we'll soon it's a regular dining room. talking about it's only used for a caterer for an affair. So you might break it up and you might come to conclusion that there's not no high muza muza. Why? The caterer is not living there. He's not eating there. He's in and out. He has workers and he's gone. So the rents it for one night. It's much less than 30 days. So how's but the as we will on one speak is a whole different share about the business and and if someone has work is there a good part of the day or night or both. So it's not worse than a store you don't have to be there but it's it's something that it's your bless because you rent it and you're there many hours or you work there many hours. So there's no on the is on the one and not on the if they rent it the is on the caterer who's there every day and the fact that every day is a different does not impact in any way. The next group of questions is also fascinating in a certain sense because it touches upon a very delicate issue and that is a yeshiva. Let's talk about themed of a yeshiva again the learning of is incredible many hours but in yeshiva it's supposed to be so the sh is does that make more of a yeshiva or less of a where it's there so we have to know it's the to medish a dining room a sh room a classroom so let's go slowly First of all in the med itself which is more than the boycott it's not enough which certainly to say make because of yeshiva is the ram's reason we have the reason it's learning so you can't say it's so so much of a you make a on it because the two main reasons Why there's no applied to a so even though we have the of much more but is not with imagining people day and night it's not with and that's because the two reasons of the and the now this is basically talking about the actual bish itself how about the dining room so the dining room is three times a day if there's a older boys and there's regular and it's not bashem and if there's a private owner certainly dining room would have would be a good candidate to make a bra the doesn't apply doesn't apply and is a sh if if if it's and also maybe some hold that that's not enough the fact that it's not so basically I saw many pkim say that a yeshiva's dining room especially of older boys that are there breakfast lunch and supper is with a brah. So it's ironic it can have yeshiva base mish no brahim dining room that's where the brah is said a sh room or a classroom so some yeshivas only use it like a older this a room an hour a day so that's not so much of a as a mish a classroom of younger boys that the boys spend there the whole day I mean they're in a classroom just the younger grades so that's something like a hopefully close to but there's another that the saying and the stipler mentioned this also that the fact is that the classrooms whether it's boys or girls no difference they're there from 9 till 3 whatever the time is but they leave their books there they leave their stuff there they leave their sweaters there so could be it's more of an extended use so at least we could say that it's like and it's at least so a boy school that has boys learning in the classroom. The classroom should have a girl school in real learning but the learning that they are learning they're allowed to do would be the same a classroom only for I know built the he wanted very much to make only one for one classroom for the and there was a lot of expansion in the enrollment didn't work out but definitely to have that a classroom only with a it has again it's not the ra it's not the it's a real you have to know about the bas of it but no doubt about it a is definitely and presumably it could even be with a play group where basically is young children where there's no learning so you don't have the ram's reason you don't have lavush's reason and maybe it would be something similar to that and therefore there would be I the children are they're so young but the is not on the children the is on the on whoever's the so a play group or a private play group should have a muza and it's even and you should know that because just like in your house you have a baby room that only babies sleep Because if you're you have a baby in your house, you have to put up muza. So here the sh is if it's a privately owned mo or privately owned baby um a play group. So it's the owner of the house that's taking in children for a play group. So it's it's it's their personal needs being filled with this job. So that would even be with the second I told you he writes in the kill in the this second that the fact they leave there that makes it more of an extended use. So that would be a to what's not discussed understandably in earlier pkim is a question of a gym. Now today many yeshivas have gyms. So I hope it's not but it's pretty often that it's populated. So, believe it or not, a gym should be with a it's not a question of something that it's like a lack of I mean play like like play there's no problem of hopefully but a basic but I saw the place all agree a a private indoor pool should have a muza because people are are dressed appropriately for swimming but it's not a question where there's lack of so If a pro if indoor pool muza a gym certainly should be muza and t I saw one of the high says that you could this this there's no tour because it's not a base of it because okay it's it's not learning but it's not something that's that's inappropriate not like like a like a base of of animals. So if it's a full it would be something interesting. You have yeshiva, you want to make a big kanuka, you make the brah on the gym, but it's not going to happen too soon. But at least in theory, we could say that the misa the gym should have a muza. Now, if you really feel uncomfortable, there might be an cuz on some rooms they have a wide door post. Let's say this would be the wide door post and the door divides the doorpost in half. So you can either put a muza on the door post that's in the room or on or on the on the door post that's out of the room. Like a typical room has a door that fills the entire doorpost. But to have a wide door post and the doors in the middle, you have a choice where to put the muza. When you first walk in, you see it on the outside of room or inside. So in parents based in parents um bedrooms we put the muza dka outside. So if you really feel uncomfortable, put the put the in the inside of the gym, put it outside does not seem to be the right thing because the it's a very again a very sensitive delicate issue because it's really the and you have to not apply it is the question of a dormatory whether it's in yeshiva or seminary there's no difference but basically the question is what is the status of a dormatory so no doubt about it a dormator story is real dra that's sleeping and living it's not the bashem type of dra it's again our needs although it's called but it's still not a b hashem so no doubt about it the ram's reason doesn't apply doesn't apply but maybe there's even more to that because here's the question if there is a who has the on the let's say we had the felt he wanted a new muza. So he went to a building manager. You want a new maza? Fine. Buy one. No in a basement in a dormatory of a yeshiva or seminary. So you might say, wait a minute, we said it has to be the baka doesn't own the domator. I mean they think they have but they don't own it. So how could it be his? But then again we know that a tenant is after 30 days but I you don't own it is money talks you pay rent. So maybe we'll advance the following theory that since he pays tuition and he pays a special fee for dormatory maybe it's like he rented his dormatory room. So then it's or maybe you'll say that's unreasonable. He has a he has a basis wants to give someone a basis in the room. So it's hard to accept that he's a regular tenant. Plus the yeshiva doesn't give him any tenant status. If they want to move him from room to room whatever reason is they could. If they want to move him out permanently they could also do that. But it's a funny thing. How do you tighten up the dormatory and a baka? What's the relationship? So the says you think a little more a hotel. The tenant I mean the one that's there for the night is the own of the hotel. Why is he doesn't live there? It's the the people living only want less than less than a day or two. But then again, if you have in your house, if you decide to take your niece or nephew that has no place to stay, they're staying in the shiv or in a seminary there's no dormatory. They're staying by you for till pes. So you give them a room, a private room, everything. But then they're living in your house. It's like your So how do you look at I'll give you another parallel perhaps and don't be funny. Some consider a yeshiva like a base not that boys are sick but let's have a that's there for at least 90 days. So it's not because he doesn't have a specific bas on this bed on this room. Maybe she is like that as well. So to make a long story short of an from the first I wrote in he says he thinks that the of a dormator is on the yeshiva the they're like his guests maybe more more of a permanent guest but that's on the yeshiva also says this the big He was very emphatic that he believes no doubt about it the not only can make a even though the boys are sleeping there all those months it's on whoever is in charge of that particular dormator whatever it may be now we could add from said he put up muz put up muz It's not a riot cuz that taka was like a real guest. They were guests in his house. He had a private yeshiva private maj that's talking about a big yeshiva. The fact is even that that moa is convinced that a bra can be said by an yeshiva. Now there are those that hold that it can't be on the yeshiva. They don't live there. Then at part of that that bias it's much more says the is on the new say also is convinced that there's no on which the mash the man the building manager no one's living there. So you have to realize what it boils down to is a suffic not only who's but maybe there's no maybe it's like a hospital there's no it could be that there's no no one so because of all this I think it's fair to say if someone follows but it seemed the is that the yeshiva takes responsibility of putting up to the pay for it put it up but most will not make a because of the uncertainty Maybe there's no at all. How can you make a Now don't forget I thought originally let them make the in the worst scenario it's of the but since there's there's a possibility that it's not at all. The safest course of action is find a different room to make a brahan but muza on the dorm is the on the yeshiva and the they should put it up camp is very similar but one major difference and this I know was done mentioned when I began a certain yeshiva came from their yeshiva they rented a premises a big campus there's not one muza on the entire campus and they made a moving in Tuesday whatever it is they're moving out before the 31st day on the 30th day and there's no so even if you're a rental but a rental less there's no felt that was wrong and I understood them but they were wrong because if it's less than 30 days you know so maybe but it was a very very expensive proposition put up on all the on the whole camp and then you can't even take them down what's going to be so again maybe there was a issue they should have told But in theory, if there's no 30 the 31st day, if you're not there, you put them. I know people that have bungalows half summers and each one makes sure it's less than 31 days. So, so of course, but that would be legitimate camp has a learning group, especially younger children. So, it's not that's for sure. It's like you know not more than 45 minutes you know in other words maybe less than that. So that learning group room would be like a basic nest maybe even less than that if it's only an hour a day or 45 minutes a day that taka would not be but then again there's a issue the children are young they come in they see no muza but one thing we had our camp because we expanded they built four big gazeos a gazebo I can't explain exact structure but it's very comfortable it's open to the air it's airy it's outdoor it's very a very place to learn as a full tour and a full so when we built it they asked for bells and bells said that it's not there it's not the shak's case of it's just a sh in and out so maybe the shar is an hour an hour and a half but for an hour and he felt your he's right because it's not the that's but after a few weeks we notice people are learning that all during banum in during stom it's again was packed more cozy and started making is there so then we put up a muza because then it was maybe even it was that degree of of a of course like we said earlier and the last question is an important question I know someone that moved into a house and he was putting up new muzz and he wanted to put up a muz in the most meaningful way in the most meaningful room. He decided he's putting up the muza with the on in a study. It wasn't like an office/ study only nothing else like they call it. This is where he put the muza with a bra. I'm not so sure that was a good idea because let's think if you have a room that's not again not an office it's a real study learning only nothing else no children playing there you have a big house it's klem does that room the ram's reason applies the applies it's only learning oh so it's a might but the main two reasons apply say where you don't learn there just in and out but this is something he's there for a long time but it's still a says I also saw the says this emphatically He says that's a regular and it's more than a but the question is what do you do with the round and then I found the treat for today and that's the but it's very mavra the the tour of the of the of is when you have a room that's a house that's not yours. It's open to the public and it's basically those are all good but one room in your house even though it's only is part of your bias. So he's coming back to and he's saying that the most important shim in the house is learning. And then he goes, he says someone asked them, I the Rambam that says that it's Bashem. He says again the Ram is talking by a house that is Kleesh. It was built as a Bish. Your house is your house. You decided to make it a study. Tomorrow you can make it into a playroom. Playhouse a playroom. So said that it's not considered the Ram B Hashem. And he feels you could even make a bra on it. So we do have a a new in this in this study how study that's considered part of the bias but has to do things properly if somebody can hold it's it's so when you're making a find out the best room it should have a room with a door not a kitchen and is we should understand that everything should be a sha and hopefully do the right thing to you Shame Smith for today's share of sponsoring call 7188518651 email.com Amen. said this show was made for learning also. So we're going to learn a little more [music] love and dominating. Okay, just let's today's show is based on one word because it is the Rama says Bashem says it's some learn it's a private it has to be a private dwelling it can't be a owned by a so the three reasons Rashi holds it's not your private house ram loo holds it's a tashmish of not when there's living in the then we say that makes it into a but today if it's only used for is not there's no Indian to put up many many put it up because there is some learning going on however is different as we'll soon see but you is the meaning is to put up best would be if you find a make on a different room and and have a mind to make it on the going on the like we did in our camp from the dining room to the to the is more of a because it's your house and some when you put a you can make a the RV's office or any office is also like a private and a washing room and a coffee room and a are all should need a muza but the minute is not to make is also even though someone hold it like a is the responsibility of the caterer and has more of but it's still the concept of a dining room is with a because that's the eating it's not the it's not the a that's used just an hour or so is not at all the minates to put it up girl school is Like boy school classroom should have a muza cuz it's there from 9 to 3 and they keep stuff there. A play group is a regular part of the house. If it's your house that it's like you have a store in your house. A business a room of should be a gym should have have a muza. A dorm the min that the yeshiva puts it up. A camp like is like any other rental within 30 days is not learning groups in a once once a day or one hour a day is not but to put up a gazebo should be have a if it's used throughout the day and night a study definitely needs a muza maybe with a says but definitely needs a muza and basically have a shila ask and do the right thing.