Moving Muktza When The Space Is Needed - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

Let's [clears throat] go. I'd like to welcome everyone to today's from Smith on moving when the space is needed. have the great sponsoring call or email ist.com haravith comes up often that there's something on the dining room table that's not chaistic someone the child put a hammer a cell phone and you want to move it off but you start thinking is there a because I don't really need the space where the hammer is occupying I have a big table and a small family why do I need the space We had an interesting shila where someone saw in the sink there was a cell phone and how it got there the answer is like every other question there's children and he wanted to take it out of the sink cuz he can't wash onto the cell phone or break the cell phone but then the question is is that he's not using the space where the cell phone is occupying it's a tiny little space so this and probably 30 more shashem we'll hope to clarify with one simple and that's Why this type of sh is my favorite? You see how one a clarity in one gives us the guidance of so many shas [clears throat] as we know says we call but to move it out of the sun or out of the the street so it won't be stolen. There's no. So if you notice, we're only talking about I want to be very clear today's sug [clears throat] of of we're talking about a real only. And a few weeks ago talked about the of what does it mean? Does it mean dapka? It's regular use intended use and that's a different share. This morning we're focusing on the word mikmo. And as I said, believe it or not, there'll be 30 plus shilas just understanding what the word means. Simply means I need the place. For example, a classic example, someone left the hatbrush on a chair and he can't sit on top of the hatbrush. A hat brush. So he takes off the hatbrush because he needs the mukim there. He's using the mukim that the hatbrush was occupying. So that's what we call a regular conventional mah which is our case is different. Our case there's a hammer on the table and you don't need a place but it's not shabick. Okay, that's a nice need but it's not you're not using the place of the hammer or you want the the the sink vacant. You want the cell phone out of the sink. But that's not that's an indirect. So what's the So it's really beautiful because the way the describes it in the simple is you want the use the place but in the case of this shabistic you're not using the place you want an out you want it to be out of here. So what's the shil then? So if you look at the inve all explain why is sale you left an expensive item outside living in Brooklyn you know by tomorrow morning it's going to be adopted it's gone that's why is that awesome the terret is saving the is not you can't use the Sunday. So why is there a so now is if you think about it we have two extremes in the is my question now is how about it's none of the above you see when I take it off table is not shabistic I wouldn't say it's or mimi but then again it's definitely not it's definitely shabas It's definitely not like that. This is a shabas. So the question is very simple. How how do you define the word? If the way the says is literal, there won't be a you have to have a direct use. But if the problem is that it's not shab then anything that's legitimately needed for shabas would be included in the and what makes this very challenging in the gor is very little about the whole of but at least gfo has a pretty specific meaning. I need this the item. But the question is what about M? How do you look at M and what does M mean? So the MS Allah has been written. It could be probably a just for itself but we have a big agenda today. But again the way the explains the concept of the sale is awesome and his that the isab is if it's not maybe we could assume if you're taking it off because it's not shabas that's the most beautiful shabas. And the we could add something that's pretty convincing. We spoke about this a few weeks ago. Taka when someone's making a meal on Shabas. So after he finishes the Mo finish the he's allowed to put it down in the right place. So this is a big tuml in the pkim and the the inim he asked why is that m after you finish the meal to put it down in the right place the the second is not a it's a kiss and by others is no putting back wherever you want. So why taka is this is why can you put it back in the place wherever you want. So the guy explains and obviously he he implied this that on Shabas since you're using it bea because it's you have to make the so once you have it in your hand and it's essentially besides not bothering you now now you're using it that it's really not You're allowed to move it. [clears throat] So the way the grain explains is that is essentially not but there's a certain restriction. It has to be or once you have it in your hand and it's no longer and it's not you put it where you want. So the is saying that they never only but is fine. the in our simmon spells out. So he's putting it the dog is everything is except and I saw a very thorough chuva in the sim that proves this point very conclusively. His sh was can you move something that is not chopstick is there the fact it's not chopstick. So he proves from many sources that the only is if it's like that it's not chas but once you're moving it because it's you want to get rid of it and now that shabistic as it's so we definitely have a case we see a case for this that basically is the is anything that is not a shabas. But you must realize something that's obvious here. The fact that the spells out the could have said in [clears throat] why did the specify these two examples and [clears throat] this seems to indicate that it has to be one of the two or but who said just because it's not you were doing not chasic is enough of a we We don't see that in the Gmorrah says it has to be from and there is a rajba that many of the point to that says it's specifically the rajba quoted by in the old prince discusses a heavy heavy piece of metal that they use when they're roasting and it's lying around on chabas and it's it's going to cause danger it's a danger dangerous situation. So the rajbah says that if since it's a dangerous situation you're allowed to move it even though it's like a kit a thorn to move it why don't you say it I can't have this thing lying here because it it's it might hurt someone and why don't you say it's I want to make it more shabistic and not have a danger in my that the is only he says no one certain you're using the place but if the only is that the place should be empty that's not [clears throat] so you have a If the Mor said there's a reason for that and you can't just be because you have in other words is not enough [clears throat] has another ayah and he says right that for sure you have a very expensive item outside you can't bring it in even though it gets stolen isn't that also told you be worried Why isn't every every tail to keep must be that has to be and not just that it's needed for shabas I saw the inimas has a also beautiful discussion and he points to a different source the gmorra talks belt when there's something that's dist that that's the on the behemoth's back heavy item it's not good for the behemoth so you have to get it off the beam's back on chabas the problem is that the items are so says don't worry take um cushions pillows whatever it is put on the ground and then move it off the animal's back so then it won't break when it falls down and you'll alleviate the animal suffering. So theam ask the mir and others ask why do you have to come on to this whole trick of taking it off dropping it into pillows it might break might not break don't you want the animals back to be pu don't you want the animals back to be not with that heavy load so why don't you say it's then you can pick up the the load be and put it to the side why do you have to shuckle it off hope it doesn't break don't you want the animals back to be empty from that heavy load. Obviously, we see that the fact that you want it off, even though wanting it off is a good reason, is not enough. It has to be I'm using the place if you want to sit on the animal's back, which you'll do on chabas, but that would be but just the fact that you want it off is not a valid. And there's another ayah that we'll soon see the place can discuss. What do you do if this fill left outside? It's going to get ruined. It get stolen. Why don't you bring it in? Why don't you bring it in? Forget about the of it. Why don't you say it's I want it out. I want it out of this place. It's not terri are pointing. It has to be a positive. Now I'm not going to be in this huge but the shabas I think takes a very reasonable approach and he says basically that this is that you want to use a place of something that's a legitimate and then he gives a mush which I think expands it somewhat and he says let's say you just want it away because it's not chopstick there won't So again he's saying that it's it has to be so basically although had some ras but as we saw the theor discusses that be back is enough to say it has to be a a some type of shabas but let me show you how we're going to expand that a little bit more easy Small table, big family, and there's a m on the table. So there you need a place fine. Moving the hatbrush off the t the chair is someone left filling on your stand or your place in and you want to dive in. So that's a regular but you can't denis I does does it stand to become a bosses for two reasons. Number one for three reasons. Number one, he's not the bum to make a bus. Number two, it was even the bum would not be a buses. And number three, many place cannot make a buses. What's buses? It's stuck for Shabas. But then you could move not a buses. So that's all the regular examples of a more challenging slightly slightly more challenging is when the the someone left the box of candles on the table which is very disturbing like it shows you're not organized shab is anyhow moving a box of candles off the table. So this if you need a place this would be a very valid the only issue discusses in is the is but candles is a candle a ki you light it and it burns down maybe a kali has to last it has to have a reuse so there are some placement hold like that that a candle matches an kale because it's lose once and and and it and and burns up. It's it's gone. But is not anything less than it has one use, one significant use and that's enough. Now the only reservation that is is are using the place or not? If you're not using the place, this would be basically a you have to keep it because as writes the real [clears throat] shabas, the real cover chabas is to follow. Now what could be important point to mention sometimes it happens that the candles fall on the floor and they're scattered all over the place. So pastas the same thing applies. If you need the place you can't walk on candles so you pick up the candles be a dime and put it away. But here we come to a point that we once mentioned a few weeks ago. Mr. Gur says it in B. Let's say you have a nutcracker but you decide I want to use a hammer today. Why not? It's the Buddha says no you can't abuse the of if you need it fine if you could manage without it you have not cracker don't use a hammer now talks about but the assumed the same applies they had to remove but if you could avoid it you could avoid moving why not avoid moving mukah. So where this plays a role is when there are candles on the floor. You see if it's on the table you can move it or not but on the floor you don't have to pick it up. You could kick it to the side. So why move it with a move without a tilt is not a tilt. So in this case, it's probably better if it's going to work to kick it to the side and don't want you to trip on it. But if it does the same job that like picking up every single candle, this would be better alternative. And is like, it shouldn't be done without a whatever is needed is beautiful. Interesting that we have it today and they have the time of the Gmor today. It's called the shoe tree, but basically people put something a form into the shoe to keep the the form of the shoe proper. In the Gmorra's times, it had a dual function. Not just to keep the shoe fine, but it's hard to explain the mitsia. I'm not sure the mats, but those shoes were made by hand. If you didn't have a shoe a shoe tree, the the shoe wouldn't wouldn't be wearable. putting a shoe tree into a tree into a shoe on chabas was the is of that's the gor and shabas the has a whole about this okay so again the is not important but the tree is because it's so before shabas take out the shoe But let's say you forgot or one, whatever the case is, you'll take out the shoe tree because now this is a good oldfashioned. I can't put my foot in when there's a shoe there. So I need this the place that was vacated. This is a clearcut without a what is a little concerning wonders says because it's why did the quote what's wrong with a regular mr quoting that that even though it's very tight because it's a new new a new shoe. So then you have to take it out. It will not just shake it out. You can't shake it out. You have to pull it out. Oh, you're pulling out. Why are you doing that? Ah, this is but in an old shoe where you could shake it out. Now he doesn't say clearly but it seems that he means to say is that pulling it out of this mut but even shaking out his mut why is that so? If you could shake it out, so why move it? If you could do it, why do it? So here the place can point out and say, okay, if you can't, if it's not easy to shake it out, it's pretty wedged in then it could be that means to say if you could get it out without pulling it, shaking it out, you should do so. Why is that? I is the same. Evidently, if you could avoid doing an isa, avoid doing an isa. That's the first category, the real McCoy. The next category is what we're going to say is the expanded. And I'll explain. Let's say you have a hammer on the table, a big table. It's a small family of Shabbat. None of the children came. Two people on a table, a big table. There's a ham on the other side of the table. So that's not right. No sh. But let's say you want to change a table called Shabas morning. So you can't change table if the hammer's on the table. So I want to pick up the hammer and put it down and change the tablecloth. Is that considered because even after I After all is said and done, I'm not using the place where the hammer was. So, but then again, I need it out of there so I could use the place or I want to get a safer from the shelf and my mouth. Someone put a pushka or a hammer right in front of the place where I need that safer paja is blocked. So I want to move this the pushka or which is that to hold money or the hammer to get to the rajba but I'm not using the place where the raja is occupied but then again I have to slide it out. [clears throat] So these are not the regular but it's good enough because it's not I want it out of here. I need this place to be vacated to get the safer or I need this place to put on tablecloth and that's what I saw this shabas who says not he says but and he gives these examples if you need to take off the hammer to fold the tablecloth and get a new one and or if something's blocking access to a safer or food whatever it is that's also I mean the the best mul is you have a hammer on a sweater. I want to wear a sweater cuz it's getting cold. So, you're not using the place of the ham dapka, but I got to get it off to get my item. So, this we're going to say is the expanded type of the I don't I'm not using the place, but I must get it out of here to get use of the place. The point is that we have to realize that that the fact that I have to get something and this in the way is also I'll give you a wonderful example. Someone's going to the mountains. He had a whole list to bring and he got everything on the list put in his car drove to the mountains. Friday night I brought everything up to the mountains. I left everything in the car. So now the sh is he has items in the car that he needs and it's chabas. So if he has a normal car, you open the door, the light goes on, the alarm goes on. I'm talking about a no frrills car, it barely works. But opening the door does nothing. The question is, can you open a car door on chabas? It sounds outrageous. Isn't the car mah? But then again, what type of m is a car? So I think the I know you see it here also based on says no matter how big the kali is once something is a kali it could be humongous doesn't make a difference [clears throat] a kali blight ki now this you should Because in something that's big that you can't move is not is not is notemal. So why here is it a evidently is to kali. Now what is the talking about the m in fact quotes it's so big you need a few people to carry it. I'm thinking back the times times what did they have that's so big you can't move it. But today it's mish a car a car is probably the the biggest is known to mankind. Thousands of is being done per minute with the RPM. But a car is the again the best example of a of of a of a so to open the car door would be I have to get into the car and that's blocking my axis. It's like moving a hammer to get a safer. [clears throat] So this would be a perfect example of good. Wonderful question. When I finish my uh stick, can I close the door? Well, that's not m So if this happens in the city and you have a very narrow driveway and you like to go there, it's blocking your your your ability to walk in the in the driveway. If it's in the mountains, you have a problem. What's the So pay he discusses this this and he says that really part of the use of a car is to keep items safe. So he wants say closing the car door is of the car. I want to keep the car in a situation that is closed and safe. No one will steal my items. Now you might think what that's but it's not true. I'm not moving the sale. I'm using the to save an item. It's not that's a legitimate beautiful the car's use is this part of the car's use. Now, and this is coming up soon. He writes closing a car door, he says, is not a problem for a different reason because he says a car was was was designed to drive with and to use it as a storage. So he considers a being a now I don't know this is written at least again was was 40 years ago but maybe 50 years ago a car was used to store things but it's a to me because even a pot is famous we store things in a pot but doesn't make it has to be what it's what is wife of a car So I don't know but I do know one thing it is definitely understandable this is of the car now you should know one thing that a car does have a of and whether you know this or not in when there are many different buses going on you know a lot of things that are doing and people cannot afford staying in a hotel or a motel for they sleep in the car. It's a legitimate. It's you take care of the lights and the alarm and the there's no problem whatsoever. [clears throat] Someone washed laundry before Shabas forgot to take it out of the dryer. Shabas he wants to get the clothing in the dryer. He's a m to open a dryer door. [clears throat] So a dryer door is definitely a but then again you have to get access to the inside of the dryer. So opening the door would be a a closing door is a problem because you don't need to get to the dryer. So if it's in a small room and you have to walk there it's if it's in a basement no one goes anyhow say leave the door open now unless theash children go into it and then it could be dangerous they get locked in it. So then you have to close it out the sak maybe you should push it tilt the mufi but someone told me oh it's because the kids want to play in it I says close door and don't let the kids play in it it's a very dangerous place to be there's no air in it opening an oven door think about this objectively opening an oven door an oven is a is also a perfect it's made to bake and cook but then again I have to get to the food what's that closed oven door. So this is because if I keep it open all the air will go out. So this is a definitely of the door it should be functional. One function of the door of a car of of a oven is to keep the heat within. So opening and closing an oven door if there's food in it would be and or a washing machine we don't use unch but let's say a child dirted his clothing and has an unpleasant odor and you want to get rid of it on chabas. What do you do with it? So a grade eight open the washing machine door drop it in when there's no water in it of course close it so you get rid of the smell and you throw but what's had to open the dryer washing machine door. So again this is on both ends I'm using the wash machine even though it's someone had in the mountains he has his private mailbox a small little box that they have uh we don't have it too much around here but it's on a peg you know today we see it for newspapers rather but anyhow so he once had this child he was walking out of his out of his bungalow whatever bungalow only leaving the the AV and he was carrying something. So he had a good idea. I'm still in the A. I'm still in my my area. So he opened the mailbox, put the stuff the thing he was carrying in, closed it, came back and picked it up. Then he stopped a mailbox. What's the mailbox made for to store the mail? Why is that a piece of same? But don't be m to open the mailbox. Take out the mail because mail in itself is ma. But this would be a way you have a ha to open a mailbox. An item fell behind the w the the refrigerator or the oven. Can I move the refrigerator oven? Of course, when it's possible, when it's not attached to the wall to get an [clears throat] So, a refrigerator is at most you open and close it to get food, but it's not worse than so opening it to get items is so moving it to get behind the refrigerator is a is a m of oven has a cuz if an oven which typically oven is on chabas was bes had a fire burning so it's a bus so it's more than it becomes a bus of the that would be a problem of moving it unless you know for sure for some reason that there was no fire the when it came bashes a beautiful shila which you see the sug in a most exquisite turn people today have notebooks or loose leaves and they write the sh is you want to move pages to get to what you need. The problem with the pages on the top are blank papers. Now blank papers is today it's worth about a penny and a half not [clears throat] but it's still so how could you move blank papers to get to the you're moving. So the shabas says incredible which is very if you hear it in he says that you're right the blank papers are but you want to get to your the written page. So you're moving the blank the to get to the one you need. That would be that's our expanded form of you need the access to get to the right page and that's what he wants to say but I did see a bigger and says the same thing even more that told these that if you have a notebook as opposed to a lucid that you put pages in and out so each page is separate then it's and you have declare but if you have a notebook that's bound together the good oldfashioned black and white notebooks that is even to move the pages which is now because once it became one notebook and there's one page of it's all mut because that one page of Tyra is spelled out even one page you know for in yes you'll know at the end of this month you find notebooks people left over beautiful notebooks the first page has the first year and that's the end of it so that would not be what's the loosely each page is separate and this is one notebook next question you guest comes to chabas and you want to be so I'll give you my talis I tal you p the problem is on top of the talis is [clears throat] so how do you move the fillin to get to the talis so this the is I have to get to the talis that fills in the way. This would be a legitimate mik. I must mention truth be told fill in should be placed not on top of the towers for a different reason cuz Sunday morning you open the talle and you take out the fill in first to put on fill in first. It's very embarrassing. A puts on and before talis [clears throat] but that's I has more kadusha than talis. So you put it side by side with the talis extending upward because it's higher and you take the talis first on chab is that would be a better h as well. You pull out the talis give it to the guest. Now the only question is what do you do about the fill in and in the talis now. So if it's you have it in your hand, put it right away on the side. And after you finish dinging, you could put in again of the talis you move the of the a very important rather a very big insight. [clears throat] There's a mason in the room and want to stay in their house. So Mr. quotes of course from earlier sources you're allowed to move the mace when it's of course with with cover mace out of the room cuz he need the place where the mace is. Now there's a plea you're not going to use the place where the mace was laying. But he doesn't mean that. He means to say that if the ken cannot use his house because of the mace moving the mace out, he gains usage of his room or his house and that's also and it's very easy to understand. This is not I want I don't like the way it looks. I want to use the room. I'm denied use of a room. And this is something that has a tremendous impact in that this would be considered. Now I'll give another example of in an interesting way. Right now you had a big you have a big soup pot and it's come out gone a little bit left over. You can't even fit this pot into the refrigerator. That's how big it is. So you want to pour it into a smaller pot. But a pot smoke. So, if you have a plastic container, you could use don't use a pot. But let's say you have no container, the only choice is leaving it out or putting in a small pot. You can use a small pot, right? But here's my question. You can't find the small pot until you rumage through the the shelf. We have all the pots. You have to move other parts to get to the small pot. and a small pot is and moving big pot parts is can you have a double for one use the doesn't sound right but I I don't see what's wrong if each one is mut independently what do you care so I didn't find anybody says differently I think it's mut until someone shows me that I made a mistake and I'll be certain to change but it seems that it's two that are not beautiful sh at times a parent's bedroom cannot have filling in So the question is let's say there's fill in the parents bedroom. So the shil is can you take the trillin out so they can stay in their bedroom. Now what's the shila? They're not using the place of the trill but then again they can't stay in the bedroom. So this for us should be mut even though it sounds very intimidating because if you deny usage of the room we just saw the mur says that's but rael we have a much more specific [clears throat] the shabis quotes I don't know who he was but he has a from the shag who has this shroom that has fillin although you're not using the place of the of fill in. But if not, if you don't move it, you can't use the bedroom. That would be he says if you can make a kiss, you cover it over doubly, keep it there. But if you can't use the room, that is so this is very similar to by the of the m now. What's really interesting about this hat is that He's not using the the actual place itself. But again, denied usage is in a certain sense a better type of and this could also be in when you have in in a baby's room. So the baby's is undressed and changed and and this and there's diapers and dirty diapers. I don't want to say but very inappropriate for fillin. So better take it out than keep it in the room. Now I you're not using the place of the fillin but denied use of the baby's room is definitely would be a now I should mention the yam already writes if you could avoid moving it by making a double koi that's better I found the has this sh in a bedroom he says move it out unless you can make an of which way is the >> [clears throat] >> Maha someone left the oven the the gas range the stove top on naturally but then he noticed that the fire was out some you have a le shabas to and you put the ch back on the fire a heavy pot it puts out the fire you see because Friday night it's still it's still heavy but kits he has the knob is on it's feeding gas but no fire which pretty dangerous situation. [clears throat] Can he close the knob on chabas which does no mala just stopping to feed gas. So this case you could think it's not so hard to say it might even but I I want to use it. I'm using maybe but without that this would be that you need the place. You can't run out of your house now. So you're doing it of the room. I will say open the windows. So I don't know if it's safe and during the winter it's not safe to be open windows. So this would be to close it. >> What? >> Yeah. Everything. >> Oh, you have to. Yeah, that's right. You have to have secretion. >> If you if you if you do it quickly, you bypass. That's good. and think of that if you turn it quickly you bypass it. The truth is in these cases a is a better solution but if it's late at night or early in the morning don't call a you can't get a the is to realize this is a regular plus other as well [clears throat] someone had a very you know important meeting on Sunday morning so he had his everything ready put his pens in his jacket shabas morning he takes out his jacket he put his pens in the wrong jacket his shabas jacket can't go to shul pens it's m it's carrying Can you take out the jack the pen from the jacket on Shabas? So a pen is a perfect pen is a perfect and some place can hold if you can't use the jacket believe it or not that would be better would be to in to turn over the jacket shake it out but these examples are very simple. Now I'll give you a challenging example. [clears throat] Someone's cell phone right now in the sink. How it got there is not the children put it there but not he wants to put on the sink to watch till but can ruin the cell phone. Taking the cell phone out is wait but wait a second. You have to realize that he's not using the place of of the of the cell phone. A cell phone is a real I it doesn't have to it hopefully if the phone if it has a time in it it has but the question is is it to take the cell phone out of the sink. So the it's not so this the seem to say that if you have no other sink to use you'll be denied usage of a sink that itself is itself. Now a vada you have to be honest if you can manage without the sink fine but sometimes he has no other sink. So this would not be the sale. He's moving it not for the cell phone per se to use a sink. The Mcdo has a beautiful has a different chil but the same idea. And this the is on the floor. It's not blocking any passage but people step in and break it. So that would be but more often than not when someone steps on an item and breaks it he might fall and break his own bones. So that would be that's I can't walk in such a dangerous situation. [clears throat] And the last group of questions is the other extreme till now we spoke about using it directly getting something access and denied usage. Our [clears throat] last shila is none of the above. And I'll explain. [clears throat] Your child put on one of these musical toys and it's making a lot of noise. You just you just change the battery. So it's going to go until pes straight. But the whole [clears throat] and you you want to learn, you want to sleep. It's just disturbing you. So if you can't learn or sleep in the room because it's so noisy, that might be the because a musical toy is a so pick it up and take it out. But let's say it's not so bad. You'll manage, but I definitely want it out. It's just disturbing me, but I'm not going to leave the room if there's no other choice. So the shil is, is that considered or not? I wanted pano for my convenience, but I'm not gonna lose the usage of the room. So, this is basically what we said earlier that something that is just disturbing, but it's not going to deprive you of the use of the room. It's not a but mosha in heal was asked about something that that's not chabas it's not shabas we say and he wants to move it so moish says that the greatest chabas or cover chabas is when you're not metal so basically leave it so if this musical instrument is not really so bad it's just you know not chas it just doesn't it's in in the the feel of things better leave it there don't move it away if it's taka disturbing and you can't sleep or learn then you're denied use of the room you have a now one of the has a if you have not just a hammer you have a hammer and you have screws and you have all these different things I guess before it happened he's still building but it's a it's almost like a graph No is a special if it's so disturbing like a but typically when something is not chabas they keep it there that is the greatest cover chabas question beautiful someone has a a cell or an alarm ringing and it's not going to stop or a smoke alarm that's ringing so in all these cases if he can't stay in the room with that noisy ringing So even though the smoke alarm and a cell phone is this is and that's the but here's a beautiful someone decided shab this morning he's getting up 7:00 in the morning he's going to learn he's going to be galdig he's had his cell phone for 7:00 a.m. >> [clears throat] >> Friday night he started having a panic attack. Oh, I'm getting up so early. It's not good for me. Forget about it. But the cell phone is in his room. So he wants to move the cell phone out of the room cuz he doesn't want him to wake him up tomorrow morning is a mut cuz right now a cell phone is there's no he's not using the cell phone. So this wouldn't be but if he can't sleep in his room all night because he's going to wake him up at 7 o'clock. He needs a room. The best thing is get up in the morning. But that's not a problem. If he can't use his bedroom because it's going to wake him up. It's a regular noise that disturbing that's that's depriving him the use of the room. And this should fit into the head. [clears throat] In other words, it's it's very similar to the sink. They ignore the sink. He's out of take out the cell phone from the sink. You see a child full of has his hands full of crayons or markers and he's up to no good. He's going to either write on the walls or on the window or something, but they're all mah. Can you take that out of his ch the child's hand to prevent any damage? So I know it doesn't sound so you know politically correct but what's the ha you're not using the place in in the child's hands. So best thing would be either tell him to drop it or shake it out of his hand. Now to move a child is carrying m is a problem but just bang it out of his hand. [clears throat] That would be the best or tell him to to to stop and drop it and then you could kick it to the side. But just to prevent damage from this occurrence would not be a I saw a beautiful shila [clears throat] even in America sometimes it comes up someone they need a guard watching it's very common but kit says someone has a rifle on a shoulder and he's the the guard over shabas now it's not easy I mean never had a rifle on my my shoulder but it's very heavy he wants to move from the left shoulder to the right shoulder is that considered moving rifles. So the saying if you can't bear to have it on your left shoulder that's his shoulder should not be irritated. So it's more than just but it's something that he needs for himself. You can look it up. He says that a gun is cuz the main function of the gun is scare off people. Sometimes the person that's carrying doesn't know how to shoot the gun for the life of him. So it's not the shooting. It's it's the it's I if it ever comes to he has to shoot. True. Then but he won't say it's okay. There's a mah on a safer. There's a pen on a safer. It's irritating you. Can I pick it up the covers for the safer? So again that's not really I don't need the place where the m is sitting I is keep don't move better would be pick up the safer use the safer and the pen goes falling off that's a now the famous once spotted like a sheamus like a piece of paper it wasn't even legible but it was so the told him pick it Even though even though it's because of the safer said you shouldn't have picked it up because who said it's it's so our case is probably the same [clears throat] beautiful Shil a go borrowed your sledgehammer right before Shabas Shabas morning he comes and returns it and puts it down on top of a a a very weak table in your backyard and in 5 minutes it's going to break the table. and I pick up the sledgehammer to save the table. So this is mameish aurora. You can't take off packages from an animal just for the animal's sake because it's not m you're taking off the the hammer just the table shouldn't break. That's a real McCoy. It's not or you're trying to save the the hammer the the table. Very nice. But that is not how could you talk about this shadow without mentioning the famous tuml about moving the air conditioner vents. Let's say it's blowing on you. You want to get it off of you. So you turn it to the side or if you still have a fan in your house, moving the fan onto you to get the cool air or get it off of you or a light. Today's lights LED you're allowed to move. There's no ash. You want to turn the light in your direction off your direction. So very basically the place can seem to say turning the fan or the light to your direction to get usage of it. Even though a fan is that is turning it off of you, it shouldn't irritate you. Either the light or the fan or the AC vent would be cuz you can't stay here. it's too cold or it's too much light. So taking it off you is turning it on to you is now some argue that even turning it off of you that's part of the normal use. So it's also but in either case both would be mut and there's no sh and we'll leave you with one last sh I would love to hear from the because I'm still not certain. Here's a very practical common shil. If you still have the oldfashioned timers, you plug it into the wall, you attach your lights or air conditioner, whatever it is. And it works with two, it's called trippers, a green tripper and a red tripper. The green one puts it on, red one puts it off. So, you set the air conditioner go on 11:00 a.m. in the morning because you have a soother and you want it to be comfortable. The mice got very cool and you're afraid to keep the extra on. You want to pull out the green pin so it's off and will stay off. So there's no sha in whatsoever because nothing's happening. It's status quo. But the pim all say that the green pin or red pin for that matter are [clears throat] now the pella is why don't we say it's [clears throat] if I would take the green pin out to clean my teeth would that be I think so if I take it out I don't want it to go on that's even more direct of I don't want I don't want it to put on the light the a pin is made to put in and out. Why is that sufi? So I thought it's I asked for palms. He told me now why so what I understood he meant to say is you're allowed to use it for a different use a hammer to crack a nut but you can't use a hammer to build if this is part of the is putting in and out. So why is that? I don't understand this taking it out in that situation is not but what did he mean? So I guess he means to say if it's there it's going to put on the light the air conditioner or the light whatever it is and you don't want that. So you want the maybe that's the but again I would think that this would be a regular again it's made to put in and out rather it could be or but it seems that that those people feel that you can't use it for it intended use which is is so if you have it any better tell me I appreciate I couldn't talk to you all hey thanks Shame for today's shoring. Call 7188518651 or email.com. commercial might [clears throat] be Okay. When the space [clears throat] is needed, nobody has everyone is needed. Okay. We learned that first of all as not a full and that's why there's a Both basically are areas of course but that's not the main the you need the of the item or the of the item that type of a mah but it has to be either you're using the place mameish or an expanded form you need access to something or you want you you will be denied use of the room if you don't take it out but just the fact that it's not shabistic or as we said it's not is not The masana is it has to be some type of direct use. Moving a hammer or a hatbrush cuz you need the chair. moving spill and offender candle a box of candles from a table if it's of course a car door could open be open and closed typically because it's either a dryer can also be the same getting to it and closing it if it's opening and closing oven door is for the same reason it's a washing machine could be used at opening and closing it. The little mailbox can be used is not us but something fell behind the refrigerator. You can move the refrigerator with the oven also. Pis if it wasn't loose leaf is looked at like and move the paper only when you have to get to the right paper as opposed to a notebook is one ki you can move the whole thing even though most of it is take out of the is even you have to move the z because it's we have to get to the talis moving a pot to get to another part to use the small part. It's two. It's both in one, but big deal. It's mut. We saw the of the moving the mace and the of the same denied usage of a room is mut. The stove top fire went out to make sure to close it either by the akum or by yourself if you bypass it. And mah is not the issue. Taking pens out of a jacket that cannot be used is a problem of mut but it's mut if you need that jacket as we said the cell phone in a in a sink if you need that sink in it's m take out the cell phone not shabik in itself is not mut unless you have no other choice unless your wife say I'm not eating in this dining room that we're not using the dining room no that's a ultimatum that makes it more of of a no of of a no issue a putting something on a table that might the guy put something on the table and it might break to keep it there. That is mut. That is not mut. That would be moving an AC vent or a fan or a a light or if you still have it electric clock is and they said a little bit about the trip.