Moving Or Using Muktza on Shabbos - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

Look at my blame. Hashem. figure out like to welcome everyone to today's share on DNA moving using email.com I was thinking the school to learn to is when people ask you silus you And I I thought I knew the suga of kalisha. It's a basically simple suga. And I had two shilas that started me on a journey to a whole new aspect of someone asked me he was by Shabas and his neighbor came knocking on the door if he could borrow a pliers. Now Shabas borrow pliers is strange. What happened was his children open the soda. They're having a sim. They open it before Shabas and we close it. And they close it so tight you can't open it. They did mamish really well and only to open it if you're using a pliers. So the one that's using the pliers, okay, it's a but for me I'm picking it up. I'm giving it to him. I'm not even using it. Is that including the to give it to another ye? It's a nice mitzvah but I'm not using it. And then there's another sh someone it was in the Bangla colony. Someone saw a MT lying on the floor and it was an Aveda. Someone lost it. Can he pick it up and return it? He's not using it, but he's using it to get the mitzvah. Is the mitzvah enough that you ought to return it? How about if the is about that of you to keep it? Can he pick it up to be it? Is that considered? And this and many more is the new for today that when there's a and what is the accurate definition of the word now we'll soon see that really is a for itself today we're focusing exclusively on what is the precise definition of is a mitzvah enough is alone enough so let me just give a little I think once we have the hopefully the rest should be simple. Let's say a person is in the bungalow [music] and he bought a coconut for dessert but he has no no coconut cracker. So he has two options. Outside of his bungalow there's plenty of stones. He could pick up a stone and smash the coconut with the stone. What he doesn't want to do but he could do is go to a neighbor and borrow a hammer. He feels very funny borrowing a hammer from a ne. He doesn't like borrowing. But the question is which is the better option? Picking up a stone or borrowing from a hammer. So logically it would seem that the better should be a stone a because a hammer is all full of of you built it. That's a problem. A stone is a creation. It's innocent. But it's not the case because we know the exact example is a hammer to crack a knot is but we also know that a stone is even what's the so very simple the starting point when what determines MT or not is is it a when something is not a cle it's an absolute extreme that's not a and even but let's stress the word being that it has that key factor of so it's not so bad it might be used for buying a good so don't build use it to crack your coconut but at least it has that it's a kali. And this explains why has more of a than a stone is not a kali. It's totally out of things at least on the map. So use it properly and it's okay. But now the question is awesome. Now literally means it's left in the sun and Rashi explains the sun baking on it will ruin it which is rare today is the sun to shade. It means it might get stolen. It might get ruined by the rain. It might be played with children. So we're going to use the word that's the term but sale means it is it might get ruined or lost or stolen. So theor says that you're allowed to move it to crack a nut but not for the preservation of the kali. Now this now needs obviously azbah cuz if we said it has the main criterion it's a kali. So just like you left your sweater outside you could bring it in so it shouldn't get ruined with the rain even though you're not using it. Because once it's a it's not so why all of a sudden by is it you see if to move it that that says even but but if you're allowed to move a regular and since has that factor of why is los you'll say very simply on a simple level say you can't be in denial is worse than but there's something that's much better than that and that's the for today when you look into the when they talk about our they use very interesting descriptions of the is the it's not a real it's not a full-fledged he says It's a mutzah kala a lightweight mukzah but it seemed like there's something like wrong with it. It's not a full-fledged mah. What's the So this you have to know. We have to know a little bit of history. The Gmorra in Shabim and the way the explains there was a terrible laxity. There was a a terrible shabas and the Nvi felt he has to take some type of a a shock treatment, a a a drastic measure. Something has to be done quickly and effectively to stop this. So as the Mishna says they made a takum of all the only three kale can be moved and those were needed for a suda but even was chabasal had to go to the other extreme like the says and they acid everything except what's needed for then they realized that their initiative was effective and things are getting better. They started reducing gradually the so first they said is but now oh you're getting better okay is also then according to the they made because don't forget which is a better right so they did it incrementally is Then they saw people responding nicely. Okay. But remains awesome. That is the remnant of the to protect and enhance. So we understand that really is not a full-fledged. the biggest movement of so why do we have that remaining it's not because of it's because the reason to keep so in other words if you want to be you could say it's not on the it's on the it's to it's to enhance Shabas putting on restrictions that are constant reminders and that's why as we'll see there are many different there's a regarding we'll soon see but it's the he says that the is not and it's like that they made the everything so in other words the point is that it's not really a full-fledged mah. It's not even the regular mah. It's a restriction. Oh, that makes sense. You could live without it. But but if you want to hear a really powerful description of of of there's a beautiful hopefully we'll do it one day the itself and that's the shabas bris shabas brris involves many shilas but for a mo it's a bit of a nightmare because he has to use his ma saken shell miler very sensitive and it's very uh delicate he has to use it by the ma and then He makes the ma, he puts it down, he makes the mat and then he has his expensive sack and sh on the table. What do you do with it? So if you allow to move for even make which is but after you put it down why you allow to move the sack and sh put it back in its place. So the questions may be on shab since he uses it's not but the cotton gimmel like many others hold it's awesome and which will leave for a different time but what's in the most dramatic way as we'll soon prove when I use that pliers to open my soda I don't have to drop it on the floor I can put it back into place so fy so if you're allowed to put it back in your place after use so why are you worried about Listen what he says to put it back in its place. But is a real McCoy kiss that you can't have any leverage to put where you want. You hear the he's not saying a gamur ain't a mah. It's not a mukah. It's a restriction on some part to leave a remnant a reminder of keep shabas with great devotion. So that's why I saw the very much embrace this and he says so the fact that we called it is a mush it's a borrowed term what else you going to call it the so here we have a beautiful understanding of the that basically it's a it's a rem it's a remainder remainder of the original tak the and that's the same. He has another you allow allowed you to use it on Shabas for Shabas use but if you're not using it so when are you saving it for after Shabas that's in the shabas but the same but the movement on Shabas from Shabas that's no so now we see the different descriptions of it's the mala or like the guy says. So now we understand much better why there's this in between and I wouldn't say it's a mah with a certain compromise. It's not a compromise. It's a different nature of mutah. So before we apply this specifically and let's talk about the or giving it to someone else is that how do you attach the word? So I'll tell I'll tell you we have to touch the word the word means shal whose goof are you talking about? So on a simple level means the person his goof needs a hammer to crack a coconut or or he needs a a pliers to open the soda but it's more logical that he needs the goofy of the kali. He can't open the soda and applies does it in a split second. He needs the gofi to facilitate his objective or maybe ga means for the gof of the kali. You have to do something for the for the for the sake of the kali. Now that's wrong. How do I know what's wrong? It's very good. So it can't be for the preservation of the kali. So we're left with two choices. I need it, you need it or I need the actual to use in my context. So the MS is as clear as day. Rashi means you have to use the kali and that's also the rav all say and the truth is that's the simple reading of but there is and the truth is both could be true either the k you need the actual Kali or Y needs the actual kali. What's the So sit back and enjoy because if you think about it, we have two extremes in this. We have the and is but but there's a lot in between. For example, is not it's a mitzvah for now, but I'm not using it. I'm not taking the and using because I'm not allowed to use it. It's not even mine. So that's not and that maybe would be because I have a mitzvah. So how do I touch? So here we're going to make again, you know, after already put him. So I'm going to make a I'm going to go through the that I found that discuss the ammo and see what means and then we'll understand after everything exactly what this MT is all about. So let's start with a simple of unavoidable every single case of I picked up the pliers or I picked up the hammer to crack the coconut a qualified and I needed the after I finish what do I do with the hammer? Do I have to drop it? It's a hot potato. It's so and drop it onto the table and break the table is maybe that's included but no doubt about it I'm allowed to use it. Who said I could put it back? So this is allowed to move it. And then he says now please listen to what he continues. How do you catch those words? Means to say when you have a hammer on the table and you need the place of the table pick it up and put it wherever you want. Okay. So what do we see from the that if you move you don't have to just drop it on the floor. So you have the place then you have a place in the table. you allow to put it back in its place. But what I struggled is how about if I use the hammer and I finish using the hammer and now it's my hand and I'm thinking what to do with it. Is it also m to put it back in the tool chest? I'm not sure. The says you can put it back in his place. Why did they say? So I could tell you why because if the is to crack the coconut. So once I cracked the coconut I finished go what justifies putting it back going to the base and putting back in the tool chest and especially the for some reason says you can put it back in its place why do you leave out it bother me so I looked up the b and there are five sources that you're allowed to put back into place the mishna the ran wait no the all four you look it up you'll see the look it up all four us if you had a you needed to place on the table where the hammer was pick it up and put it where you want but none of the four mention maybe the is if you need the place you have to take it off the place so put it in a different place maybe but once you crack the nut with the coconut with they crack the nut with the hammer. It's no longer but then I was thinking there's a fifth and that is says if you have you can put it wherever you want. Now could be info is more of a because you need to place the table because take on the table and drop it on the floor. Not so outlandish. But you use an item. Most normal people, most people that are a mech, you put it back. You don't you finish, you take out a cup. You don't leave it on the counter on the table. Put it back. You put back things like a mench. So part of the use is putting back in its place. So maybe and even is to put it back. But I mean, come on. You use someone's hammer. We're going to drop it on the floor or your own hammer. Not that's not me. And it's interesting for says, but the says the like almost like matter of factly when you have it, you're allowed to put it have it in your hand. Put it wherever you want. So he totally ignored the implication and says you're allowed to put it back in its place. So that's what I came out with. If someone has a different I'd like to hear it but it seems that the and say but it's the same thing >> is kiss the is no the is we'll get we'll get right in a second in a second now [clears throat] this is interesting that you we really the the more probably is by Now I should mention the prim says only to move it around in the same room but maybe is a problem. However, the says that says basically that the meaning is so once you [clears throat] use the you finish with the hammer or the scissor you could go down to the basement put it in the in the tool chest go and return it no problem. Now the next question is let's say someone picked up a kay and someone says oh it's it was but it wasn't from so he thought he allowed to pick it up but it wasn't there was no so he's holding a and he has what should he do so we would say you can't put it back into place what's the what we call because it's the and the tail end of your but here it's not it's your mistake so is not yet says the you put it back in it places even if you picked it up by mistake put it back into place now brings and I understand exactly why cuz the is Not physically the is the end of your but who says there's a so you look there two days in the big but what's also interesting and that's what you the discusses if you have a other mas you picked up the isma bea Can you put it back in its place? So Mr. Bur says there are some that are make but it's not logical because the says that it has to be a situation of it's not across the board. So that question would be but one thing we have to be very clear you're allowed to be a man you finish using it don't just put it on the side put it's not nice to have a the pliers hammer on on the other side of the dining room put it back in its place and that's the minute now next question beautiful sham let me show you how much we get from one simple yoy let's say a person is learning right before shabas it's almost he has a very expensive pen he likes to use when he writes so he puts it on his standard He has extended his study that he never used on Shabas. Shabas uses desk whatever. So he puts the pen on that it should be safe and he'll pick it up after Shabas and he'll continue riding. Shabas comes for some unforeseen reason. He wants to use. The problem is it was a buses. Now this is the worst type of buses. It wasn't that he forgot. It wasn't that I put my pen on your tender. There's no buses if it's not mine or yours. It has to be my right. So if it's but this was a real McCoy buses it was my stand and it was a bus the whole would you say in that case you can't use a stand the whole shabas so for two reasons it's perfectly mut and once you know the simple first of all even if we assume that theenda became a buses on chabas what type of mutah does the does theenda It's not worse than the boss takes on the the the identity of the but what is a a pen. What's a what kind of is a pen? A bonafi. Someone has no no other alternative. He has to scratch his back. He can use a pen. So even if you say it's a buses, it's only a buses of so it's you're allowed to use the pen. So how could this tend to be different? So right away even if it's a buses it's a buses and but there's something much much better much moreishmak for us. What does it mean bosses? You have a a a table and you put the the or the shabas on the table and the tables are bust unless you find an option. What's wrong with a nice innocent table? The ter is if you put a a burning fire which is don't forget and it was on so it was immobile if you could move it it was like anchored down but a pan or any is not anchored down it's not immobile you can move it's a it's a it's not a at So, a movable makes a bus and that's definitely in the he says if it makes a boss or not because it's movable. The Yeshua is a little more convinced I saw him pay says hold that does not make a buses beautiful because it's it's a movable it's almost like it ain't a if it's a who says it makes a buses so for two good reasons you can use the even if it was a buses now a little more of a challenge is the next question. You are fine. Your neighbor needs your hammer or your your um pliers. So, can I pick up the item and give it to him? Now, the truth is if the item is mish laying right there, so please take it because more often than not, it's in your basement and even you don't know where it is, but he's a doesn't he's going to go to your basement, look for the pliers. So, you have to be a man. You got to go down and give it to him. Question. Now maybe not so simple. The hammer applies [clears throat] but the is I'm not using it. So I am not using the I'm giving it to him. But even the I'm not I'm not I have no benefit. I'm not using it. Maybe there's no for me to give it to him. I'm getting an extra pair of hands myself involved in touching for no reason. [clears throat] But then again doesn't think that way. His need is my need. He is me. If my Gam has a mitzvah of so why isn't that maybe even the to give someone the ability to to open a bottle of soda? [clears throat] So interesting again that this point is that it's like in they say a story that someone came into needed a gar so he gave him his gar for and who was that afterwards they went you know they couldn't believe what happened he goes a g has two purposes for ting and help another so I use the other purpose okay that's the story they say I and G was such a big mis I can't imagine this happen but the message is true every item has two purposes for myself and for you but what's interesting is the Rav and Mr. quotes it in says tremendous that I could give I can't give a kayak to a go now this could be you know problematic a knocks on your door says rabbi I'm the shabs remember yeah okay I need your hammer can I borrow it I'm not I don't I don't I'm not doing work for you I need a hammer for myself the guy needs your so the says that is like it's not a shabic Not for that because he's going to do he's not going to just open a coconut. He's going to do building. So the go so so the ra and quotes it for a is considered and is also but it's from the ra and that to give another is perfectly okay and [clears throat] in fact says that that's part of the of a to give someone else. So it seems that indeed you're allowed to pick up the kali and give it to you have said that's for you as well. the Mcdo and he quotes if I don't have to also discuss the Shila and he says I could make I could peel eggs and onions and make for you eggs and onions if it's for the suda I could do from so why can't it be I could do I could move for so there's also a from the but it seems basically that indeed if the person needs it you allow to pick it up and give it to him. Now obviously in the rare case that the is right there you could say please take it cuz but if it means making him go to the basement searching looking and if he feels like a shab is going to go whatever it is so it's to pick it up and give it to him. [clears throat] The question that we also wondered about, let's say you're coming home from Sh Friday night and remember that you bought a coconut. You've got you don't have a a a uh coconut open, but you have in the basement you have a hammer. So, you want to save time. You'll get the hammer now, [clears throat] bring it up the steps, bring it into the house, put it in the closet, and for dessert, you'll take out the hammer and open the coconut. The question is you're making the first tilt from the basement to your your dining room closet whatever it is is now that goofy. So you could trim it by making it one side one picking it up before this before the dessert and bringing it upstairs. So this is interesting the first tilt is I'm going to use it but it could be eliminated. So I need your help for that this question. Let me let me present what I found. Let's say I left my hammer outside in a place there's an air but there a lot of go walking around and I don't need a hammer it's so if I left it outside within a half hour it's going to be gone will take it but I know for I bought a coconut I'm relying on that hammer can I bring it in now so I can have it later I need it for so you might say well now It's what's the but then again if I don't so I found the same thing that that's because even though it's initially but without it there's no subsequent use. So it's enough of it and you're allowed to do it. So let's accept that as correct. You're allowed to bring the hammer in otherwise you can have it later for now can we say ah if that's bringing it up before the suda for the end of the suda in fact I would even say when I bring it up it's not even a but it's a here the first and second one are basic but it's a because the case of the if I don't do it now it's not going to be here don't be so lazy go down to the basement before dessert and bring up the hammer and use it right away so the compare it in fact make a from the case of even though we could think differently but the what makes sense is that if it's going to be a big later going back to the basement so that's on don't forget is also a a thing to avoid but it seems that the po say that if you can avoid I'll give you a good example I saw this in one of the pkim let's say you need an ism shabas morning but it's a place where some of the children are sleeping so if you go in morning take it out you can wake up the children so take it out Friday night and don't stare the children's sleep ah you're not using till the next morning but that's enough of soy goof that makes it question. Someone has a shila. He wants to move the hammer. He thinks he has a a coconut that but he doesn't have a h but it doesn't have a a nutcracker to open or any other advice. He might end up using it. He not sure is there. So what came to my mind is the speaks about so he says but you carry a knife when you walk in because maybe someone or you have a to eat and you don't bite into a peri you cut it up. So you allow to carry it. So you see carrying on which could be the holds but if a suffix you might do it is mut. So obviously a suffic is part of human life. Look how many people were so worried about the storm yesterday that did so many things. Maybe it's only a suffic but we provide for soakdon and the later and so the also both say for use is also considered that's human nature. He might need it. I saw a good example. A person has a fan blowing and he wants to turn it to his direction. So we'll talk about that if that's to move a fan in any direction. The question is can he pick up the plug and hold on to it because if he moves it maybe too quickly the plug might come out. So the plug he's not really using but otherwise he's not going to have the the fan. So that would be first of all the plug is part of the kali so but it's also a concern of shem is enough of a concern that that does legitimize you moving the mah someone asked me a nice shila your shila he has a a food package and different rappers all these type of things that really tear it apart because it's only like a or it's not a kay but he knows when he tears it he can't control his tearing Sometimes it slides this way and it tears lettering. So you much rather take a scissor. So it could be very controlled cutting. The scissor you cut through the plastic and you avoid all lettering. And he's right. 10 out of 10 times he doesn't tear lettering. But when he tears it sometimes it goes this way. He doesn't he can't predict. So I said that's a beautiful example of how the scissor sounds terrible. Is that worse than a hammer? So you can pick up the scissor, cut it and put it back in its place. It should be okay. People ask this child they have a big sim or a big family because the ch Friday fry put a fry in the black a huge pot is after the s that there's a little bit leftovers but they can't fit the pot in the refrigerator. It's just too big or it takes up too much room. They want to transfer the leftover ch from the big pot into a small pot and put in the refrigerator. So this is tricky because we'll soon see if you can avoid using a muka then don't use the mukah if you have a regular plastic container. So put it in the container and put in the refrigerator. But you are smarter than that. You want to put it into the pot. So Sunday night you'll warm it up for for for Sunday supper. Very nice. But that's a you're not doing it for shabas. Shabas you have a simple now. But let's say he doesn't have a plastic container. He has to put in a small pot. So that's perfect example. A a pot is the only problem is in his house till he finds the pot he needs. He has like 10 pots and and blocking a whole you know a lot of you have to move 10 pots to get to that pot. Oh that's also that's the he needs a place where the pot is cuz it's blocking his access. So believe it or not, he could move the other pots and use the pot if there is no other viable option. We'll soon see what that means. But that's basically the So this is again another example of of that's and even moving things. Now another beautiful shot. I don't know how this is this so but it's such a beautiful point I wanted to mention it. Let's say someone had a small pot and didn't have a handle but you know but he used it for cooking but and Shabas came and takided on Shabas he's a very obviously a very hasty decider he decided oh from now on I'm not using this for cooking I'm using this pot from now on as a storage container cuz it's not so practical whatever he decides and it's not a rum it's the real deal he's decides from now on this is no longer a pot it's a container and now he wants to move it that part. What would you say to that? So you'll say like what do you mean? I'm sorry you woke up too late because if when Shabas kicked in it was a pot a pot is so you can't change the status on chabas just like you can't change the status of a table that's a base to a fire but I saw and it's very prima in in the in cotton mish in in cotton So that it's probable he doesn't say defin but probable that there is no concept of and for us it's because you could use it freely play and I would even add a it's probably that says that there is no bosses by a because it's very much mobile and usable. So why should it be? For the same reason it is not a leash. Now what's important to mention let's say I have a coconut. So a coconut there's no alternative. You can't use a coconut cracker. They don't make them. But let's say I have a regular need a nut. Okay. And I have a nutcracker but it's someplace downstairs and I'm upstairs but I have a hammer upstairs. When we say how about if there's another option but involves or involves borrowing from a neighbor as I have a hammer to to crack my nuts but my neighbor has a nutcracker maybe I should go to him and avoid using a hammer. So the Emma says in that who says that it's if you have an alternative if we understand that a why do you have to have and say if I need I don't need it just use it and even if it's to avoid using a because you're using it it's not good for what's is it's not so if it's not what's the problem and I saw I found earlier calls for that even if you have an alternative is an option however the you've cut your days he says you're allowed to use when you have no other kamish but if you have another why use an and in the he brings a I'm not going to get into it but he brings a to this concept that if you could avoid using the is use a even if it means having to get that which is not in front of you so what's the what's the hbness maybe it has this you're right there is a but there's not you don't need to go for kali the doesn't need to go for ki you have an option in the other room go get your nutcracker what are you using a hammer for so the question is is it like there's no or they had is and this is not you can manage without it and before say has a grace in the back of the and all say that we do like the if there is another alternative that should be pursued. It's not across the now does say from that the option is not difficult if it involves difficulty borrowing from a neighbor. People feel very uncomfortable borrowing from a neighbor. So I have to go to my neighbor and get a nutcracker. I rather use my hammer or it's a to go to the basement in the past department and find a nutcracker and hope no one else gets a you know stick. So if is a and shabas we avoid if so maybe avoid so it's hard to give you know how much is needed but it makes sense that is so once you have somewhat and definitely buying from from a neighbor is something that's not considered an option for many people so if you can avoid it or it needs some type of t or some type of being uncomfortable. We definitely have a ha to use it the one you have now. Even though it is feasible to find a nutcracker now the next also a beautiful sh let's say I left my expensive hammer outside again it's in the city where there's an but there are go within a half hour it's gone. So, I decide, guess what? We're changing our menu for dessert. We're having um almonds or or or having um walnuts. I don't have a nutcracker. I need a hammer. I'm going to go out right now, bring in the hammer and use it now. But the problem is this whole thing is and like say in America, who you fooling? So the sh is is there a to create a need of which legitimate but again is frowned upon we have it in other places he says but it's in the beginning of the fifth per that if you make an case is a little complicated but when you make a need you're allowed to move a mah because you created the need for that and so there's a lot discussion is the or not the is like the says others learn different is not correct the has an army that you're allow to make and move a ki newly created and you see when there's aid of course but the question is if in other areas of we don't un don't like don't accept why is this mut I think it's posit that was to create the need but once you have the dessert you have walnuts and you can't open without a hammer. Now it's a genuine surf. So once you have the need it's a regular surf. Now of course if the person has a nutcracker so to say I'm going to get the hammer because I'll use the hammer that went back to point but if he doesn't have a nutcracker this making to create a need is within the head of now someone asked me a good question. The mist says that if you have an alternative, if you have a nutcracker close by, don't use a hammer. So he said, so why now you're you're sort of making a need. Why is that the same same issa? If you have you you have a need to open a nut. You have a hammer right here and the other room you have a nutcracker. So go and get the nutcracker. No big deal. But here once you brought the the the walnuts to the table you have no nutcracker you can have to bring in the sale. So once you have the need there's no other choice and that's t why we understand that once you have that need a vada you're allowed to bring it in and use it. Now the next question a child is crying a baby's crying and obviously the thing a rattle will pacify the baby. If you give the baby a toy the baby likes to play with it. The problem is that a rattle is a so how could you give it to a child? Why? So that's the quotes in that there's no of the child. But the question is for the father to pick up the rattle. The rattle is the mah. Don't forget the father giveth the child to play with. There's no is of making noise. But how could the father move the rattle? The rattle is a there's this pit we said earlier. I can move from certainly it's my own child. Now here I saw an interesting theillas all the it's but the of the rattle the emperic member of he says he quotes this he says but there's a problem because a child is doing a male is the whole time you have a is if we do we crack nuts we open soda We never had a situation that the receiver is doing a male is and maybe the is to do maybe is like giving it to a guy that's no is the probably the is if he's doing a it's not an isa the child is doing a beta because they're a child moving an earn or crockpot. This is naya because today they have these big huge cups and they don't fit onto the earn the spout. You have to move the ern to the end of the counter and move a bag. So a vada an a crockpot are all a but it's a now the says that the earn and crockpot have a different head says if you have a a a grinder which is so you can't move it but if there if there's garlic inside the garlic that you ground before shabas you can move the because now it's a bus is so obviously The crockpot and is a buses for the so you allow to move the earn and crockpot just be careful it shouldn't the plug shouldn't come out question you see a on top of a someone put a an item a screwdriver something on top of a safer and you can't keep a an item on top of a safer but why are you moving it off you're not using the the hammer you don't need the place so the emphasis is some say but I can't look at an an item on top of a a safer cover safer. So I say it's probably more covered to do what says in the safer and if that ma reminds me that was made he once saw a piece of a gamora sham as they call it on the floor a chabas he picked it up says it's mutz if it has a pig rashi you could learn it but it's just a few letters and it's not even legible so moving mah for cover of aa is not mut it's like it's like cleaning a hat because I want to look nice on chabas But the job that a nice hat is a dirty hat. So the misa the the moving it just moving it be a dime should be wrong. But there's a simple and that is pick up move the safer and it'll come falling off. Now of course the safe is not a buses for the screwdriver because the person wasn't the biome to make it a buses. So it's probably better to do things correctly not impulsively and then you're okay. punk shab. Someone asked me, he had a silver tray, not a big one. It was basically a tray that had no identity, but he uses it when he has guests. His the family come they light the ner on the tray. This shabas, he had no guests and he wanted to use it to serve food. It wasn't again, it wasn't exclusively a a a nus tray. It was a tray, a silver tray. And the answer is this is a beautiful example of this is because it's a bosses for the nearest typically on many but now it's not being used. So it's a regular there's no if there's no other alternative you can use it. The tricky question is you find an aveda on shabas again in a place you're allowed to carry in a was an Arab in a bungalow colony kit you f you see an aved you know whose it is you want to pick it up and return it to the person but the problem is it's a hammer so the good news is if you know your friend needs his hammer so you got to bring it to him without because I could bring something to you but your friend is not going to use the hammer the question is can I violate is that considered. So one thing is says it in a few in a few words in the pay if it's a different if it's a full-fledged I can't pick it up and return of the mitzvah because you can't do a mitzvah by doing an he says you can't be a mitzvah that involves moving even say but you don't make those those those concessions the only issue here is since it's a it's a hammer maybe it's included in but then again this is that of no is that it's not really I mean a mitzvah is a great but means you're using the kali for yourself or the ki and the end of he says first he thinks use a hammer to crack a coconut without a coconut but is so isn't a mitzvah even a big but then he says and this is printed in the shabas beautiful discussion in it's also in he has an interesting way of thinking he says let's say a father tell a child move that m I don't like it might get lost And the father he's not a bad person. He doesn't know that you know how to move. So the son starts to think do I have to listen to my father? It's keep it. So maybe it's I I need a moving myself or mitzvah. Nonsense. You can't do a mitzvah and say it's listen to this. Let's say my item is outside as it gets stolen. Can I bring in my item? No. Why not? So if I can't do it for my own, I have to do it for someone else. And he concludes that basically the mitzvah is wonderful. I can't overestimate a mitzvah. It's so big. But it's not if I don't do it to my own, I can't do it for you. I give you a better m let's say I'm walking in the bungalow colony. is an item and it's find his keepers can I pick it up but it's but I don't want to lose the opportunity that's called don't fool yourself so is not better than mine also saw the testim has this very sh and holds it's not considered and it's awesome and last but not least I'll tell you It's a true story. I couldn't make this up even if I tried. Someone big based he took a a Yasum under his wings basically raised him spent a lot of money on him and he got married made him a beautiful shabish. I wasn't there but someone told him he was there and it was Shabas right before Kaneka and he brought him a beautiful beautiful mana and he had a whole speech how the is is like tora and a whole nice beautiful speech and he picked up the says here I'm giving it to the I know you can't be make a kenyan so I someone was on behalf of the I'm proud to give him what he deserves here's the and someone yelled moz drop it And there went the whole party. I mean this he was worth the millions and now he's worth less than two cents. How can he make a mistake? Pick up. So the has to ask because if you think about it what this person did is certainly what am I talking about? Let me explain. A manoya that was burning into Shabas Friday night into Shabas like the manoya the the is why is it mah what's wrong bus is for the h the a is it takes on the identity but a mana that was not used or a does not use let's say you need something in the break and the when your daughter comes she uses is in the way you can move it why it's not buses what kind of books is famous you're allowed to send the gift on even if it's we don't consider but the gift is considered because I have a benefit I I'm g I'm making a a a and from that says giving a gift is considered so I would believe you're allowed to give his spells that out that he get that he get that he gets after he gives his and even though you're giving him that's but this and it's perfectly so you can't get better than So it's a tus a now this the only logistical problem is that if the is so valuable it might bear and kiss >> ifar and kiss that's number one number two if you hold the only of of the I'm sorry this number two is a bigger problem if the is and I am using it this is my to give it to that's fine for you what's the for the to take it. So maybe in the case of you put it down and he took it after but the do say logically that the for him it's also you don't have to use it to you don't have to just look at it you want to pick it up you want to feel it's mine so if you assume that's correct the can pick it up but no doubt about it this is surprising enough a simple now the do qualify this is because of the sim That's very much important in these days. Either it's or but it seems on a regular that there's no mitzvah of it's so it wouldn't apply. It has to be the mitzvah of which you're giving and that's to you all. Sh a return for today's shoring call 7188518651 email.com Come. Hallelujah. Call them. Okay. We learned today is unique. That's basically the point. It's a kali. It's not it's not which you can't use. It's a this is a kali. So it has the of but as it seems that allowed but is part of the original or it's a but basically it's not it's a non oral it has a it also has a like we said there's a of there's no buses there's no migo because it's not a regular mah it's A certainly a either partial or non has an what does it mean? Either the needs it or the you need the but to save the that's after you use it to put it back in its place other this doesn't apply but this would be which is not just the physical but that's the shim the shim is what justifies putting it back in its place. If you picked up a ki by mistake, you probably should not put it back in its place. Is not also by other there is no it's only is to put it back in its place. As we said there's no buses by a pen on a doesn't make a buses because number one it's not worse than than the and also it doesn't make a bosses lending to others an item. If he can't get it easily on his own, you're allowed to give it to him. You're allowed to take it now to use later. We all said you're allowed to take sale. If later it won't be there, it'll be stolen. If you might need, you're allowed to move it. You're allowed to transfer from a big pot into small pot. If there's no container or any other viable option, if there's an alternative which does not involve or the discomfort of borrowing, then get get the item. But if there is a or the discomfort of borrowing you move it you use what you have even though it is an which is difficult har is mut to make to order to move the kaling giving a baby a rattle is okay using a a tray that's usually used for if there's if there's no other tray is fine on top of a safer better shake it off don't move it to both and I said keep it the father wants you to do They're big mitzv but it's not to give a m or to a you give it to him and probably he can take it as well. >> Yes. When you sat in