When Food Can Be Muktzah - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

Huh? Oh boy. I'd like to welcome everyone to today's when food can be mooked at have the great source of sponsoring call or email yeshivvenat.com her smith >> someone asked me a very interesting sh he heard that today as opposed to what used to be raw gap filter fish uncooked filter fish is not muka I it's not edible So he said it's something to do with the fact that we eat sushi today. So if you eat raw fish then raw fish is no longer mut. So stingy it's not just a question of raw fish. We'll soon see raw meat, raw vegetables. And the truth is I want to discuss a suga which is a sug for itself and has today has a lot more relevance than used to and that is when does food when can food become mah? raw vegetables, raw bali, raw beans, spoiled food, pits, seeds, etc., etc. So, as we always try to do to find one that will give us the clarity of the suga, you have to understand, I think, this point that in a certain sense, food is almost the opposite of mutah. What do I mean? [clears throat] Mah in one word is makah. A person is he sets it aside. He segregates it. He's not going to use it. He's not going to eat it. Means when someone is or he makes a conscious decision I am not going to use this. That is by items food. A person always needs food to survive. More so on Shabas there's particularly a mitzvah of Shabas. So by but food is never because a person is not mad from food. I'll give you an a good example that highlights the point. [clears throat] When is something? So let's talk about someone during the summer learning outside. It's a mica in the mountains. It's a nice weather but the pages are moving. He's he realiz he hasn't learned so much in a long time. He's holding the already and then he I'm not learning so fast. The wind's blowing the pages. So he thinks he's moving but he's not. So what does he do? He picks up a stone from the ground and puts it on the gimar. So that the problem with the stone is that the stone is mutzah. Why is the stone mah? The stone is not a ki. It's not a functional item. Graada you could use it to hold down the page of of a safer but as it is it's not a kali. It's not functional. So that not only is it, but you can't use it. Why? Because that is not a it's not even on the map. When something is even now, what's the how do you how do you allowed to use that stone? What does it mean? You decide to designate it. I'm going to use this as my weekly paper weight. Hold on my gum. So what you did is you gave it what it was missing most. It didn't have hem kay. And now you gave it hashem kay. Now there you weren't midas but it was understood. Stam a stone on the ground like stam piece of wood and twigs and dirt is not a kali. Food is on the opposite side of the spectrum. There's a mitzvah of the shabas and people eat. So why should a person ever be? And I'll show you how true this is and how realistic this is. It says the following. You're allowed to move it if you need it to crack open a nut. But if it's if it's you, you're not going to move it. How about a for example a regular clothing a toy for example that's even for no reason you're not want to move a toy in other words but for no reason there's no and struggle. What does that mean? Are we talking about a normal person? Do people do things for no reason? So it used to be a martial is when someone is sitting by speech and he's playing with the silverware the he's playing with the napkin the tablecloth. Why is that? Because the speaker is going on and on and on and finally he he seemed to come to a close. Okay, that was the abdoma and now let me start. So he has to he has to vent his frustrations. If he's playing with a a silverware with a again with a napkin or something with a plate and he's so but even that in a certain sense is you know mental health is also so they say okay so what is it what is consider I think the real is you know when someone's playing you why you playing with it so you know what he says why not in American mentality you have to have why not but in Yiddish guy why yes what's happen so whatever is there's no it's an to okay that's the next words but you're allowed to play with toys and play with food you'll ask why you're doing it why not but it's mut why should that be mut [clears throat] so obviously that food is on the other side of the spectrum it's so much nonmutzah that Maybe didn't want to ask it because people need it. But and therefore even what's really is food is now we see the unique status of it never becomes but there's even a another stage is let's say a very good example someone has a store okay and he has in his basement and there's a there's clothing toys whatever it is. So even though it's his and even though it is a toy a sweater is but if he wants to sell this then not only on Shabas he doesn't use it but on Shabas comes why is a toy mah why can't an play with it the is if it's he knows if someone's going to play with it even for a half a minute and going to get a scratch on it a stain he can't sell it what's he going to do with it so when He does not allow himself to use it. He doesn't he can't use it. But all the say food that's he's allowed to move and even use. For example, a great example in the colony someone has a a food store. So the food in the store even though it's not what's in a very beautiful insight into he says because when something is but comes to food in other words psychologically emotionally whatever word you want to use a person is ever from food even if it's now I'm not saying a person should not be from eating that doesn't sound right it's not right but the point is the attitude is food is never unless as we'll soon see it's no longer food if you have spoiled food or or food that's so it's but the says the ra and >> [clears throat] >> lay on food that food should ever become. So that's why we think I would like to say that this point is important. You'll soon see as the whole she goes with this is that food is the very opposite of mutah. I'm even tempted to say and I think it's true like you know the legal system innocent until proven guilty. Food as we'll see is innocent is not mukah until you could prove that it's totally mukah. In other words, even food is so much non it is innocent until proven guilty. Now let's go. Let's let's start to apply to let's [clears throat] talk about a large group of shis under the same same idea and this is a inab quotes it in bones that we don't eat you have chicken bones after or shells that we don't eat I guess we could say cantaloupe and watermelon the rind of it we don't eat it but animals do and the third marshals of the we soon get back to that but it seems also but you don't move it why because it's [clears throat] and that's what the says that since if it's so bones and cleise and we'll soon see crumbs is not m But let's say you have a that's not even for eggshells. So that's walnut shells. That is no longer food. That becomes now you have to realize an eggshell when it's on the egg or walnut shell even though we don't eat it. part of the but there you see a transformation when something wasn't but now it hit rock bottom even an animal won't eat it so what kind of is it so here we see that something that's royal a behem is still mut when even a not eat it it's now that's a big because I can't eat a chicken bone so why is it not mutz the terrorist is the starting point is food is Not mutzah. You want to have a piece of chicken? You're allowed to the chicken bone. Oh, innocent until proven guilty. Is it roy for bea? Yes, it is. Therefore, it's not mah. Now, the mice, this is a chef for itself because not all peels are edible and you have to know exactly if there are animals that are found in that vicinity. I saw interesting stories. Somebody asked Kanye chicken bones in Benet Brock that there no dogs are mut. So, his response was in Ben Brock there are dogs. What are you talking about now? [clears throat] Maybe not in your backyard, but he says there's enough in the vicinity in the outskirts of it. Now [clears throat] here the point is once it's roy for dogs and there are dogs in the vicinity. So it never became it's an so is that food is so much until it becomes totally non food but even is enough to keep it not to be. So [clears throat] the point is that when something is it's now this is based on the sug that we learned however there is one or two really it's one because it's the same idea and that is when someone took the food and made it food what do I mean so this is a famous which we have to know for shabas and that's the name is Groggerasmukim. Now Groggerus is basically figs. Smukim is raisins. Raisins coming from grapes. Now what's the mats? You take edible fully edible figs and or grapes which is not m it's edible. But you want to make it into dried figs or raisins. So the mitsia says as as quoting explains they took these fruits put it on the roof and right away it was edible. It was still same figs and grapes but in midprocess says it became su it became spoiled it had a bad smell but at one point in midprocess these fruits were inedible totally inedible. So the reasons if you take a food and you put it in a situation it becomes oce you know why cuz the key word is you why you take those figs and put on the roof why don't you eat it there you want it to transform but you have to have patience midstream mid process it's so there I why is food there it is key word max you maximum But I'll just show you how v this goes. The gammor says the same gamorra says so wait a second why it's what about peaches or quinces [clears throat] and says he also brought it up to the roof. So therefore why we say it's no we and that's the way in that only gra and smoking. Why? Because the other fruits quinces or or peaches don't spoil emid process. So the fact you put it up to the roof. So therefore what you didn't make it you didn't. And [clears throat] the way the puts it very bluntly to make some food you need two components number one at one point it's not and number two and that doesn't apply to most fruit and they have this unique status that at one point first of all you were putting it to the roof and at one point it was so we have this these exceptions that something which is the would be because you there's another situation of a food that that edible a fully edible food that you are is and that's a person let's say learning outside is afternoon and he's getting hungry but he doesn't want to stop learning and all of a sudden plunk an apple from the tree above falls onto his table so he thinks wants to have any shabas without stopping to learn. Not so fast. This is this apple is why nothing wrong with it. Is that it was on the tree. So said what did that mean? there. So that's a big the kicks in on when Shabas begins by the end of Bes. So when you looked up at the apple you saw that since was awesome. It became so awesome that even though now it's accessible this is something that was inedible inedible and that's so the two situations is or the case of a pair but you is the same idea you can weren't weren't able to eat it you know what it's like it's like a a delicious piece of steak has one problem it has cheese on it so is I a person could eat it a boy can eat it can eat it but for me it's totally useless that is so we have is it is innocent till proven guilty we we even said the exceptions are like now we'll enjoy the fruit of our labor So we'll start with a very common question and besides that it's a gate also crystallize our point. Let's say you have to find you want to try to find take the crane out of the refrigerator but the problem is there's a dozen eggs a case of dozen eggs right in front of the crane. So you start wondering is raw eggs mah I don't eat raw eggs but then again I need the place I want to get to the crane. So that's a wrong assumption because the if we're going to say that eggs are then it's even because that's clown number one. We alluded [clears throat] to it earlier. Anything that's inedible right now is mut. Raw potatoes, raw sweet potatoes, raw luxin, raw beans, barley, rice, anything that's inedible right now is mut. Now there used to be a longer list grad raw raw carrots there was a time that people didn't eat it raw raw squash it's all because of the fat of of salad bars but everything became edible but lisa we have a select few remaining on the list of mukah raw vegetable so the question is how do we look at raw eggs is raw eggs considered mah now if it's muka we're going to have a problem even let's So I'll tell you that will give us an insight. I once witnessed this in a certain I'm not going to say which of course there was a he's supposed to be a very very I mean but he was very careful with with he was he respectful to the guy he once came Friday late for breakfast whatever it was so he took a frying pan and he fried an egg and he washed it and put it back and I told the the cook that that pot needs ha goes what's wrong the cooked an egg a cooked an egg is bishaku as I stayed Infe why we know that if a guy cooks water it's not because the is whatever whatever can be eaten raw there's no is of but the spells it out normal people don't eat eggs raw eggs they do eat But normal people don't eat raw eggs. [clears throat] So now that we see in that eggs are not it should come out that on chabas it should be because [clears throat] if you don't eat it raw if you don't eat it cooked if you only don't eat it raw it's like raw potatoes and raw beer bali. However, three places in seem to assume that eggs are not raw eggs are not mutab says an egg that's under the goas I guess you wanted to to make it a little bigger whatever it is but to bring out the the chicken of it but that egg is now you take it out you could eat it olive famous Mishna or is the obvious invocation is if it was born on Friday even though now it's raw it's not but the most clear is not the whole so the says let's say you have a who has a scratchy voice and he wants to improve his voice so he's allowed on chabas to swap swallow a raw egg and they say it really works. You swallow a raw egg and that sharpens the voice. So what's the that we might think that if the has a scratchy voice he's considered and if he's a he can't take raw eggs because of a scratchy voice is not a he's not sick. Maybe the listeners will become sick from his voice but he's not sick. But the obvious kasha is forget about what about [clears throat] obviously it's very clear from in three places that a raw egg is not the isim with so for us it's very simple to understand these two have different criteria because if The guy some does something of importance to you, you will feel beholden to him and that might cause a relationship that could bring toas. Now what does that mean? He does something of significant something that you wouldn't eat raw. He cooks it. So he did something of significant. So the pkim understood and that's the mits. Even though you could eat an a raw egg, no one does that. And a cooked egg is much much better and great improvement. So a cooked egg is enough of a significant change that it warrants to say that is bishk. When it comes to m like we said the the attitude is innocent until proven guilty. Anal is an until it is totally inedible. Since there is albeit a minority of people that eat raw eggs. So it's still an so it's enough to salvage the shem. So in other words is totally insignificant change raw egg is enough of a change is totally in innocent until proven guilty and that's what it is. Now I'll tell you a treat. I mean when you learn there's always the treat the beer but the ina in the new prince they have a they have oius to it. So the says this in a cryptic message a few words but he says something of even a greater riot. [clears throat] We'll soon see the says that raw meat in those days was to eat raw. So the go like very but he says does that mean to say that if a cooks meat for you there's no [clears throat] if you're going to learn then why why is cooking meat no that's unheard of so the go says this very he says is one meat maybe you'll say that raw meat is not muk but bish a cooks meat how could it not Awesome. And then he adds, in other words, he's saying it can't be you're allowed to compare to because that will lead us to ridiculous conclusion that a guy who cooked meat is mut. So we have two examples that highlight our point once again. Mah is innocent until proven guilty. Now the only question is that is a concern of eating raw eggs seella maybe things have changed so this is the truth is you have to know that laa in those days it wasn't eaten by so many people but if since it was eaten by people maybe taka it's not but I did see the andabas They both say could be eggs. Raw eggs would be considered. However, it's very hard to accept. You have to realize in those days there were no one they didn't eat raw eggs on a regular basis. They ate it like says today anything different. Someone in fact told me today it's a new style that they they have certain foods and they coat it with raw egg yolk. I said really good. Yeah, it's very delicious. What do they put the raw egg yolk on? Look what he told me on raw meat. I guess in you eat raw meat, you eat raw egg. But it seemed that today there's a certain fad of eating raw eggs. So it's not worse than in those days. It wasn't. it was a but if it's edible and most places do not seem to make any distinction in fact we'll soon see who says in our times in his times that people don't eat raw meat raw meat is mukah but eggs remain nonmuk so I'm pretty comfortable to say that raw eggs today would not be mah so you can move it even to get to the even though that's considered that's but it's not it's a It's and and you're allowed to move it and once it's even the next question raw meat which is very common either you want to get to the froz the cake that's in the freezer but there's raw meat in front of it or typically happens usually early Friday night during the a long Friday night that the chicken falls out of the freezer onto the floor and if you leave it there it shabas it might be spoiled. [clears throat] So it's a why you could eat it raw. You could chew it. Now the question is what does that mean? It's unreasonable that bas you could eat raw but then again says it's mut. So we do find in a difference between chicken and meat. Maybe the gumar that was ma only was ma a softer meat but there's a second gum in the raja and shabas as shabas all seem to say that raw meat is period no different the all say that raw meat is even bust however quotes a number of and that's the sheet of the that it's unreasonable to say that raw meat tough meat is edible raw. So they seem to limit it only to meat that's soft or that's geese or or doves maybe chicken but to say all meat is is roy to eat raw doesn't seem doesn't seem plausible the does quote the two the two and he says that we should consider raw meat m unless Now what would be a perhaps I'll tell you if let's say a person's freezer broke early Shabas right that's right after this month if he leaves it until the next night it might the food might spoil now the truth is meat that's frozen solid it takes many hours to defrost you keep the freezer closed it probably will survive and it won't get spoiled but let's say he's worried about that or I'll tell you an interesting shil someone's child fell and he wanted to apply pressure so he takes Take an ice cube and put it on the on the forehead. The ice cube melts. So a much more lasting idea would be take a piece of frozen meat, raw meat, and put it on the bump. Then you have to have you know ice cube. So that would be told. So that would be raw meat which is if it's the only question is what is when most people I should say don't eat raw meat. So again, the makes no mention of changing does the he says you're asking a funny question because as long as there was no in the so he seems no difference today or times of the shabas also two places feel that today raw meat is as mut as it was >> [clears throat] >> However, as I told you and test all add that it's people don't eat raw meat and raw meat should be considered mama there is at second to be by raw meat cuz some say that even when it was mut was only and so raw beh could be mut I'm sorry Now Lisa someone told me recently again they started eating raw meat but he said it's not really raw they put it in hot water for a few hours. Now I'm not familiar at all but if people starting to eat it you tell me it's mut so then it's mut but to say cross the board today bas is mut there are two reasons to be mak now the next question is really what we started from and that is raw fish. So themes is raw fish is of and also in but it's different than meat the [clears throat] inab says that that although raw meat is eaten raw fish is never eaten and the seam does make an important point that many people eat raw fish but it's not really raw and that's what's called dog malua herring salted fish which technically is not cooked But then again, it's edible. It's prepared. A better marshall is locks. Locks is salmon that was never cooked. It was smoked. I know you're a pure of an old once told me the He's right. It's not cooked. It's it's it's it's smoked. But there that is prepared at least. But the says fish that's raw nobody eats. Is it come in America? and we started marketing sushi. So laisa the question is does that change? So let's let's talk for a moment fish that's not edible. Let's talk about fish before they start eating sushi. No one ate it. But to taz I have a different to to to move raw fish. You would give it to your animals. So since the Mishna said that that that bones even though for us it's inedible but if an animal will eat it it's not mut so why is fish even in those days why is so that's says in other words he's using our to permit some types of fish that you give to the dog I don't see I don't see a demian because you would be a sport and give the dog your chicken bones you're not going to use them anyhow but who's going to give edible fish to a dog so it's just not I mean it's but it's not done and the quotes these two and that even though you can give your dog raw fish but it's a very expensive dog food and we don't do it so this is why the pim say again that raw fish should be treated as m if a shasak you rely on the taz if it's right to give to your dogs now what is shassak again I will tell you a simple marshall if you have a freezer stocked with raw fish and the freezer broke and fish probably defrost quicker it might spoil quicker then you could say I could rely on the sheet if I would give it to a dog and there are dogs in the vicinity it's not mah I'll tell you a much much more gishaka commercial to us it sounds academic but it's very real and many other po can discuss someone who's raising fish that's so he has a big big pond a lake whatever it is la when when fish die dead fish in a pond could contaminate the living fish so he has a quandry the fish dead fish he sees it it's not a question of has to take it out of if it's mixed up with live fish it's no problem of on dead's fish. What's the problem? Mah. Now the fish is kosher. He could eat it, but it's raw. So here is when this plays a very crucial role. If you assume that raw fish is mut because you could give it to a dog. So then you could take out the dead fish. There's no there's no and no. But if you're going to go like that, we don't do that. Maybe because you'll eat it after it's a kosher fish then this will not be a gimble against he comes back to it and other say that's to contaminate your pool of your pond of that be to rely on that it's to give to the now is a new style and sushi now does so the question now is since la sushi is eaten raw. Does that change the status of fish? So it's an times they ate raw meat not raw fish. Today we don't eat raw meat but fish we do. So it has really a double impact in first of all if this sushi changes the status the identity of raw fish then number one raw fish and number two I'll tell you a bigish a that cooked fish shouldn't be bishop so I asked this many years ago and he told me a very wise answer time he says I'm waiting to see if sushi is just a mishagas a fad or it's going to stay well let me tell you today it's staying shame or it's staying So that became bris staple. It became so you have to be you have to be realistic. But it's not all fish across the board that's eaten raw. It's a certain species, a certain age, and a certain level of freshness. But Lisa, I'll tell you told me that he he has every Friday night he has either raw salmon or raw tuna. Okay, each their own. But that's apparent that those are doing cuz p those two type of fish they can be eaten sushi because they can be eaten raw. Now laa even if you want to say well lisa I can't believe it raw salmon raw tuna is muk is not mukah lisa if you buy it and you prepare it for shabas so even if it is mah that would be and I once said this you know today people eat sushi what about the pioneers the the jumped into the sushi they were the first people that ate sushi on chabas it wasn't yet that fish became came what was their if you buy a readymade sushi that's prepared so that's the just like you could take a stone you can't eat a stone but you could be to use as a page saver you could change fish so that makes sense that lisa if it's considered prepared that would be but the truth is this is not a on all fish it's unreasonable frozen geilish is still not eaten raw. There's no sushi out of frozen gapilish. So frozen raw gaffilish should be considered mutz. So if it falls out of the freezer, you have the same sham. If you rely on the sheet that you give it to a dog, but it's even if the sushi did impact, but again it won't be mishakum all fish cooked by a whatever eaten raw that type of species would be considered. A common shila today is lamushul and avocado. Avocado is a fruit that often comes off the tree and it's sal rock solid. It's not edible but if you have patience and it ripens it's edible. A banana is also but I think avocado is more dramatic the change of it. So less if you tell me your avocado you have Friday night is rock solid and you can't eat it. So why is it different than potatoes? Raw potatoes raw bali raw rice. The only question is let's say now in a long shabas afternoon by time it's edible can I eat the or will we say it was inedible it's so that's a good question because I'll give you an example if you had a buses a mah on a table nothing else but the mukah and bash mashes came it became a buses even If the thing fell off the table or the guy pushed it off the table, the table's got so that should apply to our avocado. However, there's one you have to know regarding is and that's of the famous in the top of that says is it true whatever you can't eat is how about a boiling hot chin bay mash. It's too hot to eat. Does that mean it's for the rest of Shabas? Unreasonable. Dr. Mar, wait a minute. If his gum rub day, if it could change naturally without a miracle, by just by a little patience, it could change. It's not really iso. Now, this boiling hot isn't edible. But if you take it off the fire and put it down and wait 3 minutes, it's a delicious shabas. That's gum. You don't need a miracle. The mikva used Friday afternoon, you hang it up and shabas morning when you use it again. I was wet, but it wasn't sapping wet. You don't need a a miracle, a sun like the whole night to to keep it to to to dry it. It dries naturally. So here the pkim say based on aa that would apply to avocado. The maba says you took off tomorrow dates and you put them into a basket. So we don't say it's iso cuz it's not like groger is that spoils. But wait a second. Therefore, if now it's edible, it's mut. What about it's the terret has to be that if the natural the natural course of of action is that it ripens soon after shabis or tomorrow, but it's it's not a a miracle that it ripened. That would not be muka. Now again I can't say all avocados but avocados if you knew it would be ready tomorrow so that's going to be the other or some say that even it was edible it wasn't mish rock salad it wouldn't change so it's different ways of looking at it but the do say that if you know that it does change it does ripen it would not be considered mah now the truth is the there is another that Maybe it's mut even when it was rock salad bes I would give it to my dog. So first I can't imagine dogs could eat rock solid avocado but besides that it's the same sh we had earlier something a normal food you don't give to your dog when there by chicken bones watermelon rind these type of things that people do it so that's not a for itself but I did see the test and test those say that or when you have an other we could say that if the fruit ripe ripened or the vegetable ripened shabas afternoon. It probably was edible or it's probably gum. The next question is very challenging and unfortunately I'll give you a child someone asked him. He wanted to get something in the the pantry but his masle there was a a medicine jar of medicine right in front of the item that he needed. So he wanted to just move the medicine to the side and and take the ketchup whatever he needed. But then he started thinking wait a second maybe medicine is now you think about it objectively medicine has all the qualities of being first of all medicine is not an like food see food is innocent till proven guilty medicine is not a food number two even chicken bones which we don't eat but is mut because an animal would but there's an isan to eat take medicine and you don't give your dog antibiotics. So for you it's an even you don't give it plus you didn't plan on using it. So you have a cliche is you want to call it as it's should be the most extreme that even in our case of and indeed has this he doesn't say for certain but he has this he says keep in mind even if someone becomes sick of course he needs medicine you take medicine if wave the is of taking medicine. They waved this a muka but la the medicine still could be considered muka not a serum. Now laa what's important to mention if if you have in the house a person who takes medicine and sick. So that would be like a home that that's oh just like we said earlier makes it so a house that you have a person that takes medicine on a regular basis or whatever it is. But now we do find that that is but so a place where you had and there was a use for it that we could say it's like it was but medicine should be treated as a real [clears throat] now the the do say the following that if you have a type of a muk a type of a medicine that people take on a regular basis for example some people obviously the mahad and shab is for them their dessert is tums I mean whatever the head there is but anyhow but they take a regular basis so could be the fact that they bought it and they have it ready at all times maybe that's the butt stam medicine is considered mutz if there's a in the All the can say a home that is that has that has a sick person who takes medicine on a regular basis even though medicine inherently is but in this home it would not be considered now okay you could I'm talking about the now the like I told you the overthe-counter things that people take sporadically but take it often that that might be different but I'm talking about The real heavy medicine, heavy medicine should be considered mukah. Again, medicine that a person should not be taking again the pain relief and he usually doesn't take it. That would also be mutzah. Now a lot of shoes today have a medicine gak which is helpful. Someone comes for a kiddish there and he forgot to bring his blood pressure medicine or hot whatever. So they have medicine ready. So that could be which is they bought it for people to use. So it's understandable that that would be a form of which mut to take the another possible would be right now is like would be the same just for the record there's a beautiful very thorough if you want to see this he proves conclusively that all is never mah all the all medicine is never he goes it's but I think this is a fair um compromise that medicine that a person might take and often he thinks of taking let's say this minor pain relief or and or that certainly is not I'll tell you two beautifuls can a person move medicine so here we'll see a little of By we said is never but medicine you have a to take it because he needs it but it's not so should be awesome but what's even more beautiful this says it and he has a sha let's say you left a person left his medicine outside it's about the rain to get ruin ru can he bring in medicine. It's not it's so he says that medicine in the best scenario is really should be but there's a to take it but we should really look at it as a like. So therefore there is a but not he says chicken bones is because a dog can eat it. So then you could even move the because the there's no involved but medicine that's an so it's so the is would be also unlike chicken bones is also because it's considered an interesting question I mentioned earlier the gammor says the mishna I'm sorry the mishna the makaba says that crumbs less than a kazay are considered It's now it's a ple and the only is if it's you'll give it to the animals. Why are crumbs? So the truth is if you know calls they supposed to eat the crumbs of the or says is a ticket for said it's a school of eat crumbs and many people are very busy with the the shabas crumbs but the is and no one says it's the talking about crumbs after the s after benching people didn't eat it so then the only had and then I saw the says And therefore, you need a head after the suda. Why is it? You're not going to eat it. So if you give it to the animals, that's considered still again is innocent until proven guilty. He does question and there's there's these menacing crumbs around clean them up so meticulously. He says probably because of the the mitzvah of wave. So keep that in mind. Okay. A beautiful shila. A person has a either a canister or a bag of flour, wheat flour, and he wants to get to the food behind the flour. What is the status of raw flour? So would say the hay that on raw flour you make obviously it's considered. So therefore it should not be says that on that raw raw kernels of wheat is not. So obviously since on a kernel of wheat so it's not so maybe we'll apply flower is not however it's not true the in the end of the third per quotes this that raw flour is ah you make a shackle on it does that indicate it's a fool The answer is absolutely not. Why do you make a shackle on raw flour? Not because of the taste of because it's because their nutritional value. But nobody eats raw flour. Even those that eat sushi and raw meat and raw eggs don't eat raw flour. So the end of the day raw flour is no different than raw potatoes and raw bali and is definitely mutzah. The so in other words here we see that and are not a kernel we however if it's roasted it's a delic delicacy called clo but even raw it seems the mitsus was that in those days raw kernel of wheat was eaten raw someone baked kala it's tricky he baked and he took off so the piece of kala that's in is that past of it was even. So that piece of the fact that raw dough is so no one eats raw dough that the fact that you can't eat it or give it to the dog. You have to burn it. So raw dough should be considered mukah. If you have you keep the raw dough in your freezer until you burn it, keep in mind that's considered mukah and should not be moved. Now another interesting question canned food. So who did not did not suggest opening cans on hill it should not be done but he said but raw cans are not unopened cans canned food is not considered. He says why you could have a go open it and the truth is many open it goes with the sheet that only a a shell. So Moses said bal writes there that since the mice the people hold its mut it's considered a suffic mah and and and and closed cans of food is not cons are not considered mutz a raw tea bag which was never used obviously we don't make tea on chabis but lice you could make tea in cold water or and or according to you can make tea in a kishi so it's the same food product is innocent until proven guilty if It's totally useless but raw tea bag canned food these type of things kernel of wheat are not yet totally mk from and still is mut to eat I'll tell you a summer and that is when the snow falls is snow considered now that's a big is snow the answer is not snow is already in the clouds before shabas it's not bully it's made at Naid and it's not an but the question is what do you do with snow in New York City so the pkim say and it seems all the pkim agree that since snow can be fed to animals or animals could could eat it it's a refreshing water so that's enough to retain the status of an now the question is in New York City if there's no but there is plenty of so the can come all say that snow today if it's not terribly dirty if it's still eat edible drink the right word would be considered enough of an and snow is not considered mt I'll give you an interesting example where you have a a twist to a shila people put raw rice in a salt shaker that it shouldn't cake up the salt shouldn't uh become come hard so the emmesis raw rice is mutah so the one question that he focuses on is bra But what about ma? So that doesn't bother me because you put the rice in the rice. You want to use it as a a anti-caking of the of the salt. So that would be a which really works a fascinating sha. We just had that. And the question if you really want very courageous can use the mitzvah for a so this is a fascinating sh because it's matzah. It's edible. But then again, don't eat matzah on a pesa. But a child and then again you would give it to your dog. But at $50 a bite, you don't give the child a piece of matzah or to the dog. So some place can consider that a kiss. A person can still have a good that lived before the war. He froze it all the years. So that would bear. Now also the fact is that this is really an issue on he says just get don't take too much bread use for so I guess he didn't have and he was able to pick up a one hand the other hand make a but many can question if that's really correct A beautiful shila is food kosher food because we don't eat we have to fast but can we give it to a child to eat so that's a they used to prepare the suda on afternoon so that's a thing which is we did say peels and and these type of edible it inedible items, eggshells, and of course the peanut nutshells are mut. Now, how could you peel your egg? There it is. While on the egg, it's still an but you have to realize some people peel the eggs onto the countertop. Then wife, what are you doing? What am I? Don't worry. I'll move it off. It's wrong. Eggshells are so be alarmed. Don't be a bland. peel it right into the garbage can or peel it onto a plate that has an oil has some food in it that's edible and you can pick it up and put it into the garbage. Edible peels. So the truth is even mushel cucumbers apples even humans eat it cog animals. So that wouldn't be a mah even though you don't want to eat. Now has different criterion but in mut if it's edible for some it's edible for the rest of us. I'll leave you with an interesting sh we have time to think about it. I don't think it's gonna be for another 20 years but no sorry this is this is not as as uncommon say every so often we have falls on Friday so it's a very interesting combination so we have on so even more of an interesting combination so is which really you could go back to work had it not been shabist so for us You have a mild question because those that don't eat guns pes what's going to be to make on Friday is still pes you can't eat it is it is it is it cooking on on on Friday but a much more serious sh is someone he would love to have but that's not but why can he make the cholant with not with Bali of course with beans at least beans and rice make it more interesting and I'll say I it's a you can't do you can't eat it but my neighbor he's eating he's eating rice and he's eating beans and no problem so we have two childs that are similar but they're not similar the many others understand that is not really gross is not is a but it's not we eat an to show it's not so even though you don't eat it we could say but since others eat it it's not an is and therefore you can make on Friday have it on chabas for ankenazi is fundamentally different know the and others when there was a shas almost refused to be m to eat kit unless because is not is very different than gros is kas is an is so it's not that I think this are doing wrong they're doing Right? They don't have it in their mig but our mig is considered almost a so that's why init they do not make a sh with rice and beans some even take the the extreme that hard to understand because if you could eat it it's but the point I'm trying to bring out says in the h that that's he talks about on pes that were make the eighth day that's not an is that's like Welcome siki. I would not be much to go and talk to you all like Smith for today's sponsor. Call Tyra 718851-8651 or email.com. Hey, hey, hey. for the >> just we we learned today I think the clal is food is the very opposite of mutah and food is innocent until proven guilty. It's only when there's a like that he actually did an action to make it inedible or which mice he can eat. It's in it's inaccessible. They are because basically anything that's barely edible or even to animals as we said is enough. It retains enough of the that's why shells and and and peels that are eaten by dogs or bones if would not be. Raw eggs even today is not mukah even though there is bishakim by eggs. Raw meat today we assume should be considered mahisa there is a as we said raw fish is generally not eaten raw except for sushi material all other fish we consider unless there's a you rely on the sheet you give it to dogs avocado or green bananas if they're edible shabas afternoon probably they were there was either gumru but they or andor they were edible Medicine depends on if it's would not be but medicine antibiotics on shabas should be considered and should not be moved if is medicine and there's it should not be moved or not even flour is piece that dough even if it's frozen is considered considered muka because you can't eat it or give it to the dog. Canned food, raw tea bag, snow are not considered muka. They're edible albe it for certainly raw teabagg and food eaten by humans. Rice in the sh is considered pes matz we treat like m even though some food is not mah and gros is not mah on pes and kney is perhaps should not be cooked on pes.