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from right now. Today's is
and we are at the Mishna four lines from
the top of
so the topic is
had it be given to a had to take it to
the bd bring it as a carb if it
developed
a
that was deemed either by a shiml or by
a that's a then is that the can't put it
on the he gets to keep it and he can eat
it as but we saw a very important in the
and that was that the only time aar that
develops a becomes is if it developed a
on its own if however the would on his
own give it a then the is
he wouldn't be able to shed how long
will this is
apply
is
either way the gar continues on that
note
of how an can develop a yet will not be
what it usually is and that is that a is
there was a story
there was an old ram
it had very long hair [snorts]
and a Roman officer seized this old ram
say he went to the and he said
why is this so old. How come no one cut
it here? Looks a little lot they told
him it's a
and is we don't have a now we can't take
the and bring it as a carbon. As a
result, what we need to do is wait for
it to develop and it's only once it
develops that it's never developed. It
was never and it's for that reason we
can't check it. We also can't even cut
it here. is in is giza. So when the
Roman officer heard this knocked out, he
took his spear
and he hurt its ear gave it and it then
had a
the story came to the
and said that it's okay to go ahead now
and to eat this animal meaning now it
had a and being that it had a now it was
going to be okay after the Roman officer
heard that what he had done allowed the
Jews to be able to eat this animal.
So he started going around finding
that people were waiting for them to
develop a mum. He gave them they went
went to the same and said is it okay for
me to eat this and said that it's not
going to be okay meaning the first one
they were m but after that they weren't
mid anymore a similar story
there were children that were playing in
the field
and they tied the tails of sheep to each
other
and one of these sheep their tail came
off that's
And it turned out that it was a [snorts]
and the story came to the and were mim
said that it's okay to treat this as a
when the children saw that they were
mum.
So the kids said wow this is good look
at what we were able to accomplish. We
were playing in the field and now these
suddenly became so they went and they
did this with other animals. Those
already said is not going to be okay.
What's the difference? So you have two
stories similar stories. In the first
case there was a Roman officer who went
and gave
the owner of the went to he asked him is
it okay for me now to treat this animal
as if it's a he said yeah. So he the
Roman officer saw that the yid was
allowed to now eat this because of what
he had done. So he did it over and over
and over again. Then the said no that
already is not going to be okay. The
second story was there were children
that were playing with sheep. Turned out
one of them was
accidentally the tail snapped off which
is considered a said that it's okay not
to treat it as when they realized what
they had done and the outcome of what
they had done. So they did it again and
again and again said all the other ones
are going to be asked. So what's the
difference? The difference is very
simple. The first time the Roman officer
gave the animal a first time the
children gave this animal they didn't
realize what they were doing. They were
not aware of the fact that they were
being m so being that it wasn't done in
the sense to be mate to take it from
it's for that reason that it was once
the Roman officers saw that the rabbis
were m this
once the children saw that what they had
done allowed the now to eat from this.
So what they did the second time was
considered badass in the sense that they
realized what the outcome of what they
were doing was going to be and it's for
that reason it was going to be
the Mishna had mentioned two story mean
the two stories are similar the reason
the Mishna is telling us a story is not
just to tell us a story that relates to
the sis that we're learning the reason
the mission is telling us a story is
obviously because there's something to
be learned from it why do we need both
stories I mean the principle is the same
the first time it was mut second time it
was why zah
So why do I need the same context of
I'll tell you why had we only had I
would think that over the first time the
guy did it being that he didn't realize
he was being was considered
because there's nothing really to worry
about meaning there would have been a to
say maybe even though the guy did it
still it should be
why a of some sorts what are you going
to make by a guy a guy is not m in these
So like why should we go ahead and make
it us
to say why maybe you should make such a
even though now he's a now he's not he
did it anyways but when he gets older
it's going to be very important for him
to know you now
say you would have thought that maybe we
should be in the case of the for reason
therefore the Mishna told us the story
we only
There's a to say that maybe cotton is
more because if you see that we're
matter when a cotton is no one's going
to confuse a cotton with a god
but if you're going to be m when a guy
does it being that although he's a god
but he's a godle so you may confuse him
with a god
said as far as this way as far as that
way that's what told me the story both
by and
The original story was the castor, this
Roman officer sees an old ram, very long
hair, no one ever trimmed it here or
groomed it a little bit and he's
bothered. He said, "What's what's going
on over here?" So they told him that
there's something called Bkar and a
Bakar has kadusha even bis had there
been a Bikash we would have brought it
as a carbon dunk the Romans. We don't
have a ba mikt and as a result we have
to wait for it to develop a blemish and
when it develops a blemish at that point
we'll be able to groom it we'll be able
to eat it but up until that point we
have to treat it as sacred there's
nothing we can do he hears that the
Roman does he takes this spear and he
gives it to the said that it's going to
be mut now it's interesting the Mishna
said that the reason it was mut is
because we assume that the officer did
it in fact after the m he did it again
and again and again And those because
clearly the Roman officer realized the
outcome of what he was going to do. Now
it's a little interesting just when you
read them just learning forget about it.
It'd be a little hard to understand the
what do you mean he did
he asked why no one's touching this?
They said because it doesn't have a so
he went ahead and he gave it a said in
the name of Katina that just to
understand
you have to add a little bit of hes and
that is the Mishna was talking about
where the told him that it's going to be
in if it develops a therefore the Roman
officer was not really being led to
believe that if he would make a mum it
would become mut cuz if he would make a
mum it wouldn't ha
meaning it wouldn't be a situation where
the developed but rather he's creating
the he's doing it proactively
but said
had the
told this Roman officer that I want you
to know that if you if someone makes a
or you make a that it's going to be that
it's command
as if he told him to do it in that case
it would be deemed that he did it and in
that case it wouldn't be okay meaning
was bothered with this he said what do
you mean it
Das what was the exchange? The exchange
was we're not eating it cuz it doesn't
have a m. So he goes ahead and he gives
it a cult. Ter says yeah because what
they told him was it becomes mut if it
develops a that was what they told him
had they said it becomes mut if someone
gives it am and then he would have done
it then for sure you would assume that
he's doing it because what he had told
him said I disagree.
No one ever told the guy what to do.
They were just telling him what is
therefore mali mali nasa I disagree with
those semantics I don't think it matters
had the told him [clears throat] it
becomes when it develops a or it becomes
m if someone gives it a meaning even had
they told him it will be if someone
gives it a
being that it wasn't a direct nobody
ever told him to do it it was sort of in
a roundabout way in all cases we would
assume that the first time that the guy
gave it he did it therefore before it
was going to be mut. So the Mishna said
that the first time the go did it the
first time the did it was because it was
after they realized the effect of what
they had done what happened subsequently
that was already done.
We know whenever you find the lashing of
so is always coming the rabbi something
of
what's it going to be
it's going to be marb that if someone
creates a carbon
is that it's going to be
if it was done what's that coming
what would be if someone told the guy
but he didn't tell himirect directly
question answer. But it was that he
allowed the to know the and then he went
ahead and he gave it is
considered and is going to be
if somebody was being chased by a
he turned around he was afraid of the
animal so he kicked the animal
self-defense
and now he gave the animal that was
chasing him
is going to allowed to he's going to be
allowed to eat this animal. Meaning the
seven that if somebody himself gives up
is
according to the you have to wait for it
to develop a new in this case the owner
of the animal gave his animal but being
that he did it in self-defense he didn't
do it with the to be mate that wasn't
his intent it's for that reason it's
going to be okay
this is only true if he kicked the
animal literally while he was chasing
him.
But if he kicked it after it was chasing
him, meaning the animal chased him, he
somehow survived. He lived to tell the
story and then a couple of hours later
he sees the animal, he gives it a and
now, right, he's
and now the animal developed in that
case, you don't have the of course
you're a regular
like the
you're not going to be able to. I mean,
it's obvious while you're being chased.
That's the hat because he chased you
yesterday. [snorts]
Yeah, it could have been such a hav. I
would have thought sorry when you saw
the animal, you got a little spooked. It
reminded you of your trauma. So as a
result, it's a little sweet revenge
[laughter] against the animal that was
hunting you down. So either way, maybe
it's not considered a regular.
So maybe that should be
in fact some had a reversed gear. So
don't think that the only time it's
going to be okay to based on this moment
if it happened
what's the reason because we assume
this which was a in the first of the is
the in the second of the
it's okay to be in a before it's born.
Meaning even though the is that is very
very stating that when it comes to a
that's a fetus it's still inside the
womb of its mother is there's no and
this is really based on earlier in where
it's that the
comes about when the animal is born. So
it's only after the that it has its full
thus the
which of course is related to the of the
will not be in effect
says I'll give you an example of how you
could be before
as it relates to a a g a baby goat it's
possible to be masic its ear before it's
born and as a result that would be an
example of being
if it's a baby sheep you would not be
able to make the m in its ear meaning
once the ear is exposed to the point
that you could be there it's already too
late it means it was born already the
was already complete the way you'd be
able to do it with a sheep is in its
lips
it' be possible to do it with a sheep as
well in its ear
in the event that it came out with its
face sideways so it' be possible to
touch its ear before the head is
completely outside of the meaning before
we have what's considered aically deemed
later said another with regards to
what if an animal has a m it's inside
its mouth now when it eats it you can't
see the but when it opens up its mouth
then you're able to see the mum is that
would be considered a
meaning is and this is really a later in
the
says that the only time is considered a
mum to bear is if the mum is you're able
to see it but if you can't see the mum
it's not considered a interesting so
only if the mum is it considered a
otherwise not said what happens if you
have a mum which sometimes is baloy and
sometimes is such as something inside an
animal's mouth while it eats you don't
see it but when it opens it mouth you do
see it So said very simply it's going to
be and that seems like aesh because you
could have argued that you don't always
see it maybe it's not considered but say
isn't
the outer gums the gums that are more
exposed that you're able to see of the
animal. So if they're nif or nigm
they're somehow severed a little bit is
considered a as it relates to the inner
gums the gums that are not visible
there they have to be completely
uprooted but when they're uprooted it's
considered a why you can't see it must
be
because even though usually you look at
a person you don't see the back of his
guns but if he opens his mouth if he's
in a dentist chair then maybe you will
be able to see but it's possible to see
it I mean that it's possible to sometime
times see it. You see it's considered a
isn't that so why do I need to tell me
something that's already without the
sounds like saying but it's a
was coming to explain the meaning
was explaining the mission just says the
Mishna just says that as it relates to
the gums the inner gums the ones that
you can't see once the near that
considered a why I it's not ra was
coming to explain the and it was
important to know the time of the
because the is something that you may be
able to apply in other areas as well
another mission
any that's possible for a person to
inflict so there are some
that one can afflict to an animal there
are others that's not possible just a
very obvious example Michel is going to
list an animal that has five legs is
considered a mo. So you can't give an
animal a fifth flag. But an animal that
has a cut in its ear that's something
that could have happened that's
something that you yourself could have
done. Which means that every single time
an animal has a mum and you go to the or
you go to the tribunal the overseeing
the and they're going to decide now
whether it is a m there's two things
they need to factor into consideration.
Number one, is it a is it the is it
kabu? Is it what in the moment? That's a
whole as we've seen a little bit and
we're going to learn a lot of that talk
about specific that are going to mirror
the anatomy of an animal as it relates
not to
but as relates to the laws of m of
that's coming. But the point is that
there's another thing you have to take
into consideration and that is was this
m something that happened or did
somebody go ahead and actually create
the because if somebody created the m
that's the
on it's not so push that just because it
has a m even a m even if it's that now
it's going to be you also have to
determine the history the genesis of the
m had this m happen did it happen on its
own Okay, that's great. But if it didn't
happen on its own, then it's going to be
a problem. Very important
any which is possible that could have
happened.
So Bezda now is going to have to do a
little bit of due diligence to determine
the history of the mo. Okay. So what are
they going to do? They're going to go to
the shepherd. They're going to go down
to this person's field and they're going
to try to determine exactly what had
happened. So the first person they're
going to interview is probably the
shepherd himself. Is he believed or is
he not? Is he believed to say that it
happened or is he not believed to say
that
is always believed for somebody else,
he's just not believed when it comes to
his own thing. Way too much
says someone that's on something.
So if you wouldn't trust him for his own
animal, you can't trust him for somebody
else's animal. Because if you're for
something, you can't be a dying to judge
that type of Indian
you're not to be an aid for that either.
Either way, the said that do you trust
or do you don't trust the
said
that was the
said you always believe somebody else
you just not believe for yourself. Rome
said that for anything that you not
believe for somebody for yourself, you
can never say even for a third person.
So two things number one what is
and
that's the first question the second
question is it's not so clear what the
three and the are specifically
and seem to be saying the same thing
we're not sure who said what but we know
held one way held another way in terms
of had to understand the mission once
said that when the mission says
what it means is that if you have
he's going to be believed even if he's
working in the house of a meaning the
definition of Israel means a shepherd
who's a Israel that he's not a when it
says that not believe what it means is a
shepherd that's a kayen is not believed
and the gor explains why is a believed
because aa that's a is not in the Bakar
business. He doesn't get a Bakar. A gets
a Bakar doesn't get a Bakar. So let's
think what would be his
he works for let's say a C and the C
gets he has a B right now. If the BR has
a then the is going to he'll eat it and
the most the will get is he'll be able
to participate. be possible like that
heals allow to eat from the so the most
that he's going to get he'll get a flesh
from this for that little thing that
he's going to get we're not worried so
there's no reason for him to lie so
when the says it means when the shepherd
himself is
as relates to even if he's in the house
of he's not believed you know why he's
going to say
right if you have that's working in the
house so now the has this and it's not
clear what You know why the
lawyer may lie? Because he's a cayenne
and he may be hoping that his boss is
going to give him the give him the
animal. So being that he's a he has a
what's the say it has a now you're
allowed to eat it. As a result we don't
trust
the same would be true if you had a roy
working in a kayen's house. Now here the
of getting thear doesn't apply because a
kay doesn't give thear is gives the bkar
to the kay. here his boss is a but still
the could be there's a to say that the
person will lie because in his mind
they'll say you know I'll do my boss the
a favor and one day you know what it's
going to come around then he'll do me
the favor again when I need somebody to
say on behalf of one of I get bakar so
if I need someone to say on behalf of my
bakar so maybe he'll do the same thing
for me but the point is the believe
because he has no he's not in the bur
business he has no horse in this race
pun intended as opposed to as opposed to
the royal he has a vested interest in
the if he's working for maybe he's
actually going to get the and even if
he's working for I'll do you a favor one
day you'll do me a favor
as a result
of
the second
no you always believe for somebody else
wasn't
lying for somebody else for himself yeah
that's a different But
is not worried about these of and and
maybe he's going to get it. Yeah. A
person is not just going to go ahead and
lie. Say
no one's get one of the ten
commandments. It's not so clear that a
unless he has a real real incentive to
do it. This is not enough of an
incentive.
Didn't really explain yet is going to do
that later in the one. What's another
how else could you learn the Mishna that
when it says what it means is
it means
of so if the royal is working for a
Israel not the shepherd is a Israel but
a shepherd even if he's a that works for
Israel is going to be believed why is he
going to be believed if the shepherd is
a cen and he's working for Israel maybe
he's going to lie because he wants to
get thear so
No, that's not a
knows that at the end of the day, he's a
and
his boss probably wants to give the to
why is he going to give it to me? I'm
just a shepherd. So in his mind, he
never thinks he's going to get it
anyway. There's not enough of assume
that he's going to lie.
However,
but if the roy was working for a even if
he's in and there is not going to be
believed
because being that he's working for a
thear
and being that the has a he wants to lie
because he wants to benefit from it. He
thinks that maybe he's going to get part
of this part of the
certainly if was working for number one.
Now there's two spars where maybe he's
going to lie. Number one, he wants to
participate in the suda. Number two,
being that he's a kayen, he thinks that
maybe one day he'll get it from someone
else. And if I lie for you, you're going
to lie for me. But either way, the point
is is that what matters is not whether
the Roya himself is a or but what
matters is whether he's working for he's
working for
anyway. There's two very distinct ways
how to learn the Mishna. The first shout
is that when the Mishna says,
what we're discussing is the himself is
the is the
is believed because why shouldn't he be
believed? He's not in the business. Why
would he lie as far as maybe he'll get
this bakar, maybe he'll get a different
some other day. So being that he has a
vested interest in him, we don't trust
and therefore he's not going to do. The
other shot was
a
is believed. But if the roy is working
for a that's where his not believes
according to the second that a royal
that works for a is always believed
whether he's a Israel or whether he's a
then we can understand what say
and that's in contrast to the meaning
according to the second
When is a believed? Aoya is believed if
he works for Isra doesn't matter if he's
or if he's a kayan holds if you're a
working for whether you're or you're a
kite, you're going to be believed. The
second he says is always believed unless
it's your own thing, you're always going
to be believed. What's Rome say? Rome
says that being that you wouldn't trust
a ken for his own. So you can't trust
him somebody else's. Okay. So as it
relates to Ra arguing with the Tanakama,
he knocked out one of the two kouglas of
the Tanakama. Kama said if I'm a working
for I believe doesn't matter if I'm or
said no if you're a working for you're
not going to be believed because if
you're not believed for yourself like
okay but as it relates to the the first
the
and are going to agree the point is is
the between ram and the tanakama is a
roy that's working for Israel the
tanakama said every royer that works for
Israel is going to be believed Doesn't
matter if you're a It doesn't matter if
you're Israel
that works for Israel is going to be
believed. But a that works for Israel is
not going to be believed. So there's
three shittas in the
but according to the first the first
says that when it says it means if the
roy is if the roy he's not believed
what's the tanama and tanama holds that
believe the co is not believed and also
said believe the tanama is not believed
so and co does not believe so could You
have to say there's going to be
something else
to the
so till now we're discussing the himself
the shepherd is the shepherd believed
does he have an amus the shepherd not
believe
exactly what it means
and what would be forget the there's a a
person he has a he's a and the question
and there's a sh is Did the mum happen
or did somebody actually give it to he
said two number one you need two people
to say you need
in order to say but those two could be
even
that's where between the meaning the
tanakama was talking only about tanakama
had no fundamental problem with a
he had according to the first mahalakra
an issue with a but as it relates to aim
per se no one said that can't say in
fact if he wasn't a if this was going to
be with somebody else you'd have to
maybe be okay was a whole new av
transcends the laws of as we're going to
see in tomorrow's it's neg
so to the extent that
when it comes to maybe being not
believed to say for their own animal
that would mean that they wouldn't be in
our Mishna's case of there really is no
between the where the plays itself out
is where it wasn't a where you want to
somebody else to say which was
as relates to that either way address
what would be if there's a in the house
of a and we want to determine the
history of that it has did it develop or
did somebody
That's the first
is the
no person's son a person's daughter is
believed to say to say that the moon
happened on its own said
I disagree if you remember the house
even 10 wouldn't wouldn't be okay so
what's
he's arguing with he doesn't agree with
but he also doesn't agree with
said you need two holds all you need is
but whereas said believe
not so there's three
holds you need two
let's go backwards hold even
goes even further he says
Now the of was talking about a received
as a gift. It's let's say he has to wait
for it to develop a before he'll be able
to do anything with it. Now it has a
we're trying to determine did it develop
the on its own or did somebody actually
give it the
said
but it can't be a it can't be a family
member. What would be in the case where
has a mo or has a bakar and he's waiting
for it to develop a mo that won't be the
case has akar he has to give it to the
cases where it's not aar but it's a
bakar and these were also is in the
beginning what happens when has a bkar
so you don't have to give it to but at
the same time being that it may be
aaricar
you have to wait for it to develop a so
now the is the one that's sitting around
and waiting for it to develop a said in
the
All of you need to again to say that the
happened on its own. Who's that like
just like said it with regards to the in
of the same would be true for a that's
in the
said no
that when it comes to a sufficar in the
house of Israel everybody agrees even
the himself could say meaning the owner
we don't even ask questions you come to
the it has a the not even going to ask
you how did this develop the
bum is believed on meaning all the
issues that we have, we don't trust you.
That's all in the house of the but in
the's house. Even the is keeping it's he
gets to keep it
is not
because if you're not going to say that
as it relates to
you have to bring it as a carbon once it
develops you get to keep it. Here's the
cash. If you're gonna get to keep it,
who's going to be able to say on
the that it developed them all? Assuming
that you don't trust the BM that means
all the bims in the world are not ne if
no one's a neon for themselves, then no
one's a neon for somebody else either.
said who in the world can possibly say
anyone is technically to have his own
animal
everybody could have their own as a
result they're all once you're so who's
must be not said you see from here that
is not a only
says no one second
could be by you believe there's no this
is that we had in shabas
Because by there's always a there's like
a migu you have that if you wanted you
could have taken all your animals given
them before you made them see once you
have an animal that's you can't give it
a soar is born unless you do there's no
way to be mate without violating
because doesn't become until
when it goes that's when it gets
So if you would give it a before it went
it'd be to be without actually being so
for that reason this is to say that
people wouldn't lie when it comes to
being
because if you're such a shak
and you're looking for loopholes you're
looking for ways out then you might as
well just do it in the kosher way and
you might as well just be mum before it
actually got its kadusha. So maybe over
there you're right, but that's not a
riot. Don't bring me a riot from
Bakar. But the says you're right. I'll
bring up's proof was really from
somewhere else.
What he meant to say was
according to mayor who's going to say
maybe according to mayor
has no meaning that keeps according to
mayor for sure nobody should be able to
say because we're all says okay maybe by
safar according to mayor there's no way
is that so hard to fathom says yeah it's
a fatish
we spent a lot of time together.
If you have a now it do you have to give
it to or do you not have to give
now if there's a whether or not you give
obviously did it andor is one of the
that discuss clearly holds you how you
how do you know that the happened
clearly we're trusting somebody how
could you trust somebody every is on and
on
must be is not
what's the is mean this is the proof but
what's the
when it comes to these things is not
when it comes to
who said that even a son and a daughter
is to say that the
happens that has developed on
Who said that you can't be a car
like
what would be if the owner the who has
this was standing outside and the walked
into the house and then few moments
later it walks out and suddenly it was
damaged. So the people that are in the
house can say that
and we're going to be now it sounds like
the people in the house are the right
who's in your house. The assumption is
not a soup kitchen. This is a family and
the family members that are in the house
are the ones that are going to say
How could the family members say? I
thought
was
the case was not where only the balabos
was standing outside. All the family
members were outside. Everybody was
outside and whoever was inside was not
part of the family. It entered it walked
out. Whoever's inside is say but what's
the sounds like someh over here? If the
is not that then what is the in this
case
this certainly looks a little fishy
right here you have the whole family is
outside at that moment it developed it
looks like something was being set up
over what but there's enough here to
make us a little bit uncomfortable to
maybe not trust whoever's inside that we
trust
what's the bottom line
said so we need now
the skin
that believed
either way before we end today's daff
just to go back and speak out some raid
that relates to the beginning of the
daft that's also a ham to some of the
raid that we spoke at earlier in the
week. So the daft began with
there was an old ram that lived in
Jerusalem had very long hair. It was
clearly very unckempt and there was a
cast a Roman officer that saw it and he
went to the
that were living in the and he asked
them
why is this so old how come nobody's
taking care of it so he said I'll tell
you the truth this animal is a and
we would take this animal we'd be on the
today we don't have a bdash and despite
the fact that we don't have a bd thisar
still has to what we need to do is we
need need to wait for it to develop a
when it develops a then it's going to be
the Roman officer heard that he took a
spear out he pierced its ear gave it a
and were m stating that the mission said
the only reason the matter is because
the cut the castor this officer did not
realize what the outcome of what he had
done was going to be but as soon as he
realized when he did it again and again
at that point already because even a guy
that's it's only if he does a that it
becomes but If a guy would do it, it
would be in other words, we have a with
a and some
that discuss a that's doesn't become
or does it not become a that develops on
its own is if you yourself go and you're
it's what if a guy did it he did it is
it going to be is it going to be so it's
a and it comes out pretty clear as
means even if I didn't tell the guy to
do it he's doing it his own as long as
he knows he has an understanding of what
the of what he's doing is going to be
that would be enough to say that it's
going to be so again when
how does it relate to these is does it
become or does it not become what the
sugi doesn't seem to be discussing at
first glance and again only at first
glance is whether there's an isser to
tell a guy to be or whether there is no
to tell a guy to be meaning it says in
there's an to be
in fact the said it says
and we learn from the extra word that
not only is it to go ahead and be but
even it's going to be to be and the
Gmorra's case of GM is you're not let a
cake on the ear of an animal to entice a
dog to go take a bite out of the cake
and then take a bite out of the ear of
the
that's included in the
so is it to go ahead and do it for you
or not? That's not something that was in
the stating that early in the week we
spoke out that it would seem to perhaps
be a between
and the
that being that the says that if
someone's
if somebody would tell
go listen to me and I want you to take
this spear or take the tails and go play
with them like in the case of our Mishna
and a m would come about you'd be this
because you caused it to happen and even
though there's no for
it's not that the
is to me but at the end of the day I
caused it to happen so I'm not worse
than a gr and is awesome so this is
going to be awesome but said you would
tell a to do it or let's say to do it
then you wouldn't have this because
being that the even the non-Jew is a so
he's acting once he's acting it's not
considered
that I caused him to do it. We assume he
did it on his own and there's not even
going to be a stating that we set over
foresh who in a gorgeous with regards to
mitzvah speaks out again and again and
again that if you tell a guy to go ahead
and do something even though
but that he's only doing it because of
me. So I'm a and if I'm a wherever
there's a he wanted to be this mitzvah
if we have time we'll speak a little bit
more about that later. He wanted to be
at his growit and as a result if you
tell a good do a mitzvah for you could
be it if I did the mitzvah I could I
could even make a
all the rate that we spoke at earlier in
the week but the point is that if I tell
even though he's a and he does it for me
it's going to be considered
if I tell going to go ahead and do it
now it's is it or is it not says clearly
in p it's not
seems to say that it would be but the
truth is the truth is we have to take a
step backwards and really
there's a
this is a classic rape
we know there's an in
so if is threshing you're not allowed to
put a muzzle on its mouth
the gar
is it okay to tell a non-Jew to go ahead
and do the on your behalf. I'm not doing
it myself. I'm telling a non-Jew to do
it on my behalf meaning is there when it
comes to what's do you say
that's when it comes to shabas
which is only a light or perhaps there's
no difference the rush in
the seventh par on that it's says as
follows the
this sh of whether it comes
says der if that's the case we go why
because being that only it's only so
comes out it's a
you're going to go
even though
that you're not allowed to be
with that
somehow that not only if a
do you not have the to eat it but
there's actually an in to go ahead and
tell a guy to do it so you have to know
where the rush but that's what the rush
so says the rush even though it's what's
the you see that there's a
which is it says in the it's not says
the rush you have to say that being that
we're dealing with
you can't bring any from here in other
words the
only
you see
and for you have to say that this is and
for that reason it's going to be
different but bottom line what do you
see in the rush you see two things
number one you see from the rush that
it's also to tell a guy to be for you.
But you know what else you see in the
rush? that the is not the is the same
reason you're not telly to be it's for
that same reason you can't tell to go
ahead and be
so much so that the rush is bothered
with
that why is the right says only
you don't have when it comes to a
regular
but the point is number one it's awesome
to tell a guy to do it and number two
the is going to
It's the end of
so the apparently told
that I have a from a rush that it's
to tell to be and it sounds like
there are two number one that it's and
number two that it's only it's not going
to be
says
It's a brut and and there's nothing I
could say stating that says even though
but I want to point out to you why it's
such a meaning I have a rush that says
it's
why because when it comes to
it's learned out from
so
THEN WHY IS
I WOULD THINK SAYS that is more than
just a gram. If I tell A GUY TO DO it
for me, I have more involvement in what
happened than in your classic. So if
they'd be mock to say that
this should be
I'll prove it to you. You know what my
is classic.
This is mishb every single word in the
gar the garra said that what happens if
a guy goes ahead and he's
going to be also then the said
two words
that if you went ahead and did it's also
going to be says what does it sound like
from the
said that if
the iss
Not only that,
I'm going to even tell you a bigger you
know what the bigger is even
it why is a bigger so you see it says
that
somehow is to me than is because if it's
in the reverse then
is coming to be that you don't even see
in the without wouldn't know grandma I
would only know if a guy does it how do
you know grandma so he says is really
more than he has arrived from as well.
But the point is that even though in I
don't really hear I don't really hear
why telling a guy to do something should
be less than and if someone's
think
but at the same time
you see that way the bottom line is the
rush is clear. The rush says that if you
would tell a guy to go ahead
for you is you would not be
of
all it is
everybody knows is only why not in a
so there's a real but at the end of the
day you have a rush you have a rush and
the rush would seem to therefore be mash
like the and not like the hearts but the
truth truth is if you think about it I
think there's a there's a very very very
just throwa out there a little bit of
food for thought and that is everyone
knows of
is now going to tell a guy to go ahead
and do for you on what's the said
there's different but the is he asked
the man on the street why is he said
on
means
and as a result you now got to go ahead
and and tell a to do for you on Shabas
but is a is a special institution that
you find is according to only by such as
Shabas not only Shabas but the point is
that on Shabas you're not allowed to
tell a go to do for you and the reason
is because of
it's a are you allowed to do a on
can I do a that's going to cause so the
truth is like
The Gomorrah says, it says in the Torah,
but it says
and the Gmorra says
I can't do
if it's a direct but if it's only it's
going to be but that just means there's
no there's no there's no it's not what
about almost all the hold
that
it's going to be awesome. So this says
that's only in level but [snorts] if you
do this is a very very long but the
short answer is you're not allowed to do
it's true
but that's on the level that's on the
level on the steel level but as it
relates to
going to be so I ask you a question if
telling a is the way
And in the way said for sure it should
even be more. So what do you need for
should be because of So why do I need a
new a new
OKAY
it's the same it's the same you get all
the coolers it's [laughter] so what's
the difference if it's or if it's a so
what's
everyway
is going to be a
what's in the rush and
no if you tell a girl to do something
it's not considered it's not so you have
to come on to a new par even though it's
not but it's but is saying for he's
answering all these kashas based on this
you say that when you tell a guy to do
something it's considered so it's
considered every should be gr just to
ratchet up the kasha a little bit the
and this is not
but this is the
it's
he brings a tremendous from the
was one of the in the late 19th century
early 20th century so he said a he said
a beautiful he says that says
that
if you do grow so he said That's going
to be true for every but one.
Why? Because we know
if somebody's over
there's why
that's the one say with regards to that
single out why the singled out one says
tell me there's a special for each of
the none says
that according to the hold
if Someone's going to light a fire on
why because being that it's not included
in
is that is not it doesn't follow the
because of because it it's excludes
different
not. So when it says in the it means
everything but it means everything but
is so it's not included in
so you don't have
as a result what's going to come out is
if somebody would go ahead and he would
light a fire
it would be you would have all the if
that's the case it should be to tell a
to light a fire if you want you tell
go to light a fire on okay but
I'm
right? ious times where is but that's
based on the fact that telling a guy to
do something is only awesome
again just
if according to the
himself brings according to this
that when it comes to
if maybe there'd be
to tell to light a fire for you on that
same piece brings a a tremendous
from the
the context of the wasab
is a well-known when you learn the says
he said I found a hidden scroll in the
house
and it said in this scroll
there's 39
only one it wasn't clear what wants so
the gar discussed it a a little bit and
the concluded that what it said was
there's 39 and for one of the is so if
you do anyone
of the 39 and the Gar has a whole
discussion which one of the 39 one said
it's
this it's that
he said what's the DISCUSSION IN THE
SAID SO which one is not
there's a that says
if it's a regular
and if that's the case
[snorts] which is the one of the shabas
that doesn't invol IT'S
one line says is thearish.
He says, "Cuz I think that according to
the man that holds the lavatis is one
other that's also going to be the you
know what that is and are two sides of
the same coin. The is when you light the
fire is when you extinguish the fire
that the mand holds is ku is also going
to be is also going to if that's the
case it's not 38 it's only 37. That's
how couldn't be going according to that
mand because the mand that holds the
but the point is if that's the case if
is also like
so in that the says that
that is not included
because it doesn't have the of sorry
it's not included because it doesn't
have the of that it's going to come out
is not even going to
So you have two lav on two of the that
are technically not. So again it should
come out that if somebody tells a guy to
go light a fire on chabas
that says that it's not included
is going to be awesome
or if someone would tell a to be
who is and who said that if you hold
then it could be if you hold that
anytime you tell a guy to do something
there's then look maybe there'll be so
we're leaving with two cautions number
one what do you need for it's
that if you tell a guy to do something
even though there's no but being that
he's doing it because of you it's so
what do you need for
it anyways so typically
with the
it could be there be two
should be awesome
and we is that
if I'mma
and it can impact tremendously Just a
hura.