Chulin 101

Today's daf is and we are two lines from the bottom of so at the end of yesterday's we returned to the original topic of the and that is the whether there's an on a non-cooser animal or there's no with a non-coosher animal says Gidhan applies to a kosher animal but a non-cooser animal does not have the word that clarified Rab Yehuda's position and that is that if somebody eats the gdanosha from he's going to be he gets malus for eating part of a non-cooser animal he's also going to get malus for eating the in other words if somebody eats the of a non-cooser animal. Does he get malus? Was he or was he not? At first glance, this shilah should be tulli in a much more global shila, which is whether we say oral. There's a big whether something that's can become again. There's a man that says when the stated is what the Tory was saying was that if something is mut and now meets this criteria it's going to become but something that's anyways asser can't become again there's a shast that holds there's a that holds but given certain criteria then you would say is what's known as so the backdrop of today's daf is the gidhan specifically in a but really the lumbus as it relates to the principles of today's it ties very much into the sug of either way the gar begins with a that really is a he of somebody doesn't get mal twice and says you don't get mal Malcus at all. Now we already explained says you get malus twice. Number one, you ate from number two because you ate and even though the said is that but is different and something that's has the manifest itself that although ordinarily over here is going to be but the is going to discuss says potter sounds like you don't get malus at all there's no malus is for eating part of a non-coosher animal. There's also no malus for eating the says then you should get two malus and if he holds then at the very least you should get malus for the fact that you ate from a which was chronologically the is that was first as we saw yesterday is as soon as the animal is a fetus the isan until it's which is at somewhat of a later stage. But even if holds that just means there shouldn't be two malice but says it sounds like you're not at all the and if you're going to tell me holds and that's why there's no because really the is not considered it's only in the context of where the it's even a sh or it's even possible to be for eating a good but if That's the case that means there's no if there's no then there's no as it relates to the but you have to say that's why there's no and we learn from that the talking about an animal where you're allowed to eat the animal, you just can't eat the g. It's over there that the opposed to a non-coosher animal. We are the entire animal is off limits. such an animal where it's not the gid that's also it's the entire animal that's also doesn't have a g is ganosha at all either way it would seem from this that really there's four possibilities if you break it down what the would be if somebody eats the gdanosha of a non- kosher animal is one extreme he holds you get malus for eating part of a non-coosher animal you also get malcus for eating you get malus feeding the non-coosher animal clearly holds so if you can't eat a non-coosher animal. You can't eat the of a non-coosher animal. Additionally, holds but you are going to be the second as well. The other extreme is says you're not going to be at all. So you're not over for eating the g of a non-cooser animal because the g is it's not considered food. Thus when the Torah says don't eat from a non-coosher animal, it did not mean don't eat the senue of the non-cooser animal. Additionally has a a says was never said for a non-coosher animal. And then you have the Mishna Tanakama the Mishna seems to say that you would get malcus. You would get malcus but only one malus. Not like that and not like that you're going to be what are you going to get malus for? So there's really two ways you can go about it. If the holds and he doesn't hold that you say and you're going to get malus feeling from a that's first if the holds then you're not going to get malusing from a but assuming he doesn't hold that he doesn't hold this that is only true for kosher animals meaning the is true even for non- kosher animals then the is you would get malcus for us for eating from the gdra. It makes a very big difference because you can't get malus unless you get. So if this person who's eating the gd of non kosher says you're going to get malcus one malus. What's the malus for? Is the malus for eating from a non-coosher animal or is it from eating from the just from a basic learning of this? There's really two possibilities. It depends on if this is basic back of the envelope arithmetic. Either way there's four possibilities. What the would be if somebody eats the of a regardless is going to go. What if somebody eats the of a kosher animal, but it was an avail. So it's a kosher animal. It's a cow, but it's an thus you're not let it. What's the with the gan of such an animal? Meaning the Mishna was discussing the gan of a noncooher animal. The gdanos of aer. Now we're discussing the of a kosher animal that's not kosher because it didn't have a proper it wasn't available says the heard in the name of says if somebody eats the of such as a carbon or if somebody eats the gdanosa of which is over there you're going to be so before the next line of so what's the beer in the said I heard in the name of Raf who said over that there's a tano not like we had in the previous but rather if somebody eats the of a kosher animal that's in available mayor says that it's posit you're going to be overhosa and you're going to is an as well say now which are you going to be according to it's part that you're going to be for the reason the hold you only has to be because there's no drusses over here it's because of the obviously the is not until the animal dies the while the animal's still alive so the is first thus the hold you over for the not for the whereas holds you're going to be over for the for the it's going to be clear that also holds the reason he holds you're going to be over for the is because is one of the carveout it's one of the exceptions to the rule it meets one of the safe harbors in the laws of meaning ordinarily but there are times where is for to the attorneys. So for example, for example, means where the second is more than the first. Why? It's very simple. Affects one, one of the 365. That's all it affects affects the entire animal. All the bus are in the animal are included in the so says that being that more than thus even though I ordinarily holder over here is going to be if that's the case it comes out even when it's so we have who are lesser even despite the fact that really is clearly they hold that even when there's a stating that another when it comes to the over we're going to be what's the so you're going to tell me because is is more than just because is more than just the problem is we just said that the don't hold is so if They don't know this despite the fact that is more than so why are they when it comes to when it comes to the ter is because and is not more quantitatively it's more qualitatively the way is more than affects one ga affects more quantity it affects the entire animal is more in it's more qualitatively gan is a somebody eats from the gda gets malus. It's a but it's a regular I say in addition to the if somebody eats he's getting involved in there's also also so it affects the gid more qualitatively speaking the refers to it as says don't confuse this with but the point is is that the refers to which comes out then that although the hold that if the second is more qualitatively there the would be that they would agree says. So now that we have information about the let's try to figure out who this anonymous is but you see the don't hold of your classic. Thus if somebody eats the we say despite the fact that it's more than only affects this one whereas affects the entire animal stating that such as they do all this I could tell you who so we know we're familiar with the laws oftes really mean one of two things. Sometimes it's referring to someone that's that either ate kim or entertly it could be referring to someone that's that ate that was and there's a very big difference. If someone's tom and he eats kachch in addition to be an iser, it's also if someone's and he eats kachum that's there's no isar. So is more than so if the person is what's known as there's even of as opposed to if it's the person was and he just ate is no we have a someone that was he ate it doesn't matter if the says if someone was to and he ate from that is he's going to be if someone Tommy ate catch from that was Tommy is going to be the reason being that he only in other words we have and the in this is a incidentally so we have a if someone was to and he ate does he get is there of is of for sure the question is what about I don't understand how could you tell me that if someone's tom and he eats to he's going to be part every single time a eats before he eats it he touched it when he touched it he was so by the time he ate it was already so if that's the case every case of even is a case of you see how could you Tell me that is going to be positive says coming later it's a good time said I'll explain to you you're right in a case where the person was first and then the became agrees and therefore he agrees to what said you're 100% right if someone's and he eats and then he's going to be in that case it's always that way and and you're going to be if the person became before the boser became then he's going to be the iss because came first and being that the is of an issue there's nowhere for it to go. Therefore you be wonder that Tommy is going to be that's only if first the buser became and then he became hold they hold they hold that even though when the buser was this person was not allowed to eat it now that he became it's going to be as Why the reason it's is because the iso more than the is basa basa only affected this one piece of meat. So if there's a piece of kum that's no one's allowed to eat it now that the person became he can't eat all kachum in the world. So obviously the second is effect more that's whereas doesn't hold the he doesn't hold this and as a result holds that if the person became first and then the became like proof from every case of but at the same time if first the became then the person became over but what's the bottom line bottom line is you have aim seems to say that even though there is a concept of that you don't say and that tucked away he holds that because if he held he would hold that if there was a piece of meat that was to and then a person became tom if he ate that meat he would be for more than the fact that he holds it even in that case. You see even where it's an now Rashi points out that we had an objective that hold even but if the second is then they do hold really we only proved the first half we just found from that holds but where do you see that he holds that if the second is more such as you don't have a proof to that points out that that's true and Rashi doesn't really give much of an explanation but he just says that is just proving the first half as it relates to the second half the must know that in but either way the gumar just to be clear did not prove everything it set out to prove the was trying to say that hold you don't say but you do say the All we proved was that doesn't hold. We did not prove clearly that holds a but must be that the held that in everyone's going to hold that is definitely going to work. But theor says if we just said that doesn't hold but he's the in the brought earlier as it relates to the it means that even doesn't hold but he holds when it's in that the second is more than the first Cuz what was the first isser? The first is the fact that there was kum that was now let kach that's right now that's is the second was the fact that the person became so referred to it as an you see basically all is more than just it's as well why is it because doesn't have cars. How do you know is you're right on some level is because but at the same time when a person's he can go to the mikvah if there's nothing you can do with it and as a result says the maybe that's a and that's why even though holds a when it's such And but that's not an example of it says the less not hold meaning we have more information about we said who's the that doesn't hold the says it's going to have another shabas fell out on fell out on and somebody went ahead and he did How do you know that this person now? It says shabi and it says it says with regards to it says who says that teaches me somehow that you can only be of one. What's the kasha? The kasha is for both. Now if you hold of is I understand that you could be for both at the same time because you'll tell me that each one is more than the other has more than chabas because has additional shabas has more than shabas as opposed to yipper which is merely that's the in the first it's merely of course but if you're going to tell me that really doesn't Then how could this Mishna say that you're going to be both for Shabas and now what's the obvious question they're both so if they're both when is it Shabas right when the sun sets but the same time it's it's all the same asks the long rash but either way that's now we're saying now who's the all We know that we want to be the tan and the briser with regards to here regards to seems to hold because otherwise how could it be both for and I'm g tell you have how you have to learn this you flip it around you have to say that really it's who said that and it's why says there was a telegram that came in the name of the great who said as false according to based on the edited in the holds if somebody he's going to be only once. If somebody was with regards to Shabas and he was amazed with regards to meaning, but he knew he was doing he's going to be for the fact that he was on his reverse. Let's say he was amazed with regards to Shabas but he was a with regards to going to be interesting. said that you know the beer in the way we had it in the original price the edited price who says that which are you going to be for so it's it's not either or it's only shabas for not because came before Shabas is that requires that's that's at a later time. The point is is that Shabas is because Shabas was here first. So in the fact that Shabas is it's automatic. It doesn't need best and it's goes back to the days of creation. So it's for that reason Shabas is is is considered the is here it's first as opposed to which is going to be second it's a nice but how could such a penetrate the which is at the same time shabas punked you know his star if you know the rest of the story so shabas goes back much further but but what does it have to do with anything in the said life at the end of the day that's a point said that when this message came from that said that according to that holds that you only have one for doing and which one shabas the message was a little bit mixed up and Really there were two things going on. There was a shas there was a shas there was a time that there was a decree that the Jews were not allowed to observe and because they weren't allowed observe it was a very big problem. So got together and they said you know what we're going to do we're going to make a secret day. We're going to pick a day and it's going to be and the day they picked was shabas which in of itself has a implications not for today but they decided that shabas is going to be kipper. And with regards to that day, they said that if somebody's going to go ahead and he's going to be a with regards to Shabas, then he's going to have to be inas. If he's going to be a with regards to on that day, he's not going to be in. You know what? He's not in Kipper. It was just like a They didn't want there to be no Yum Kipper that year. So they decided that they couldn't make it on because everybody was going to be looking out to make sure the Jews aren't observing it. So they picked a day. They chose Shabas and it was on that shabas and which had fall and end on the same day that was saying two things that is the one that holds that you only one as it relates to the second thing said that the one that you for is the the shabas not he was referring to that day because it really wasn't yumipper but if it was really yum kipper then of course it's either or if you were for shabas you And if you say that's the end of the beer that was saying he said that there was this year that there was there was a he decided that year came and all the came back from and they reported they all had heard the same thing for that when said this me as it relates to that you're only going to be if you're on the shabas, not if you're on the he wasn't referring to your classic case of putting them that full on the same day over there. Which one either it doesn't matter he was referring to this case where it was a shas either way exhale. So we just concluded a a relates to really a idea the of and as we saw the touched on many different contexts began with a which discusses the of with regards to the went from and discuss what about that is on a of a kosher animal that's in available what about the gdanosha of kchin what about the gdanosha of we had a case of kalis So with regards to someone that's t that eats kachum that's if someone's tummy is not kach if kachum is to no one's allowed to eat it they're two independent they're related to the same but they're two independent how does that relate to the and finally shabas that fall out on the same day if somebody does is it for both only one we saw we saw We saw and so this is a trap more says I'm proved she said that is even by and he said it has to be that way because the isa goes back to the times of and at that time they were like non kosher animals In the times of it was only animals. There were no kosher animals in told him. It's true. The mentions but it wasn't said in really it was said it was just written in but wasn't said at that time. Had it been said at that time then it would affect even non-cos animals. So in the the a little bit their argument they told had it said in the so then you could hear that maybe the was said in real time but that's not what it says we know weren't called until says being that it says you see that the is said to at the time that the Jews were called bol which is It was written why so we should have a so we should know why there's said is it true that the Jews were not called until there's a poss when they went to bury in the so you see that the Jews were referred to as says the right after parish it could be the yidden were referred to as Ben is but in parish for sure they're not referred to yet as Ben is because where the says the whole mention of Israel is the fact that the Malik refer to as and that wouldn't be enough for now the to use that word and refer to the Jews as but then when was mas to the name Israel at that point by that had already happened. It could be the Jews would be referred to as Ben Israel. So if that's the case, I mean it sounds like there is some turning point where the Jews are now referred to as which is even before. How do you know that? You see that in par it's not but but you see it a little bit later into the name Israel and from that point forward the Jews will be referred to as so at that point at least let the gone into effect and at that point there was still no behemoth so shouldn't that be a right that is true even for a soashi told was the given multiple times it wasn't given multiple times There's only two possibilities of when was given. It was either given or it was given by but to say that the was given some random time doesn't make any sense. So being that it's written in you would think that maybe it was given. The problem is telling that the are referred to as so as a result if the are referred to there is you see that it's not written so to speak in real time if that's the case when would it be the only other is not because it's not a stabber that would have been given anywhere between and alaf and the sugis over here of that we're going through way way way too even if we did a few raid bites it would be too fast so uh we're going through this way too quickly. So, I just thought that as it relates to raid, just to lighten up the dolphin a little bit to speak out a uh nifla from the bish of the margles and this is from his safer. Now, why are we going to speak out now from that safer? It's like speak out of bre I don't think we need an excuse stating that few days ago we had I think it was on the v the gar mentioned a yid by the name of barpuli barpuli was removing the gdanosha and he was doing it in the presence of the great amra and gave him a little muser and he got so scared that he dropped his knife but there was a manaker whose name was barely and in that mara says take a look at what I wrote in my say form and on page alif I give a shout out to and I say something about his name. So taking the lead of we're going to go through a little bit the beginning of the specifically chapter one and that's called pseudonyms in the tal. What's a pseudonym? A pseudonym is like a nickname, a pen name, uh not real name that sometimes was used. And Margolus has a how you find that there were different tan and that are mentioned in shas who were known not by their real name but rather by some sort of pseudonym. Truth is this is something that over the years we've talked about it's scattered in in some of the rabbits and really the to this is from and this is the way starts his I'm just going to read the first paragraph says I found that there are many whose name is mentioned very infrequently in maybe this uh had one that is attributed to him maybe it's not even it's yet he was known in my opinion by a name that's associated with that he saidd this is very famous. He says there's a his name wasdah. He's mentioned in the mission over there says that if somebody's walking in the street and he saw he saw three coins that were stacked one on top of the other. So the you can't keep them at even though you know is you're allowed to keep that's from the but if you saw them stacked then is not saidd the only time this is true is if they were stacked LIKE A MIGDAL THEY WERE stacked like a tower says that his name wasdah what kind of name is migdalah never heard so he says let's be honest it's probably because of thisdah said aboved and that's probably why he was known BY THAT NAME IT'S A PSEUDONYM IT'S NOT his real name it wasn't at the br where they said That's probably not what it was, but rather it was that he said and he became known based on this. He said who name was and he said it's to me because he's the one that said smelled he had that was coming from him. He wasn't. So too, if you have someone who's mis somebody that smells, he would not be allowed to lead the benching is the one that said regarding he was known as because he's the author of this. He said I found another he's mentioned in you know what he says in he turns to and he asks what would be if somebody says and then another person would say me too now specifically the case was where he said and the other person went and he said me too what's did he mean to be nazirus as well when that person has a child or maybe when I have a child. But maybe what he meant to say was you're so excited. You want to have this child so badly. You're even making I'm telling when you have this child. I'm going to love this child like it's my own. I'm gonna take care of this child. Beni is mentioned one place in it was where someone asks uh where somebody said and the other person said does HE MEAN HE SAYS HE WAS THE one who asked this that's why he was known as says it's a to bring us at a time with said that it says in I never heard of and the one thing he ever said in his life was the only thing that's mentioned over here in I should say is so is it a coincidence that he became known as not the regular probably because it is that he said either way he con concludes and he says I have many more such examples There's no one ever who had this pun intended because it comes from was mentioned in the was that I'm the one that brought this in to the world that sometimes you have this connection between a and that he said in he's known by that name not because that was his real name but that's his pseudonym so to speak that's his alias and he gets known as The he said was mentioned who's the one that said does he mean who's mentioned the first of in a few first of all said there was no one before him that ever had this he said that if you take a look at one of the commentaries on the that was written by Ramos Narvi lived in the 14th century he was a super commentary on the and this is a paras he makes this observation and he's mafaling it a little bit that's 500 years before he says not just that the take a look under says the he was called because he said one regarding the l and and that's why he's known as AND HE SAYS BY THE WAY I found it in the as well this is 100 years or so before regarding the why was it because he said regarding one of the that are mentioned in the but the bottom line is that I'm the first one that says it's not I found it by in his I found it in the and I found it already in the again not but they all were already this is not the really he continues and he says that really after I've seen other people work with this as well and says I have to be honest with you I'm not masking to some of the things I said I saw he quotes from a s called this is a a pish that was written on the adus it was printed one time in vna in the year trees lammed z right it's fun when you have a photographic memory but the bottom line is it was printed one time in trees lammed z in the in the town of INA and he said that yid went and he said he was mamish he was mafling this Indian in an incredible way he went so far as to say that he believes shiman ben lish that's a funny name lish what kind of name is lish said I think raim ban lish gets known as rabshim ben lish not because his father's name was lish I don't think that's the I think the reason he's known as is because of a rabbis is in par and over there is talking about when love made his business deal with we went through that business deal if you remember went through it and they had a deal I'm going to get this and you're going to get that and what exactly the deal was the one was going to get the older ones was going to get the lishas the lishes. He was going to get the later ones. So this said that to me this whole name luckish I always found to be interesting and I think that the reason he was called luckish is HE'S A BEN LISH BASED ON THIS member that he said in now it's good because to this but to say he was known by that this was his that he said he went a little bit further he said we're familiar with he said I think was because his father's name was Mam I never heard a name maml who's maml mamal right who's maml he said I think the reason it's called mam is based on a bas with the is discussing if somebody sells a bab what's included what's not included and one of thinks that's included is the maml and the says my who answered the question said I'll tell you what a maml is so this said that I think the reason is called mam is based on this so rumor my goal is we we have to slow down a little bit. He said he found one mera that one Ammyra who's mentioned 4,000 times in J and has something to do with you can't the whole thesis is is that is not a frequently mentioned and based on that it's maybe to sayd is called based on the fact that he said this are COMPELLING based on this one of of this member that he said Lisha he said way too hard for me to understand that he said besides what about Rabuda Benish who's mentioned in Shabasim and Nuniml right forgot about him he's also called Ben Lish where you have a member that he want her says there's something being you could be a Ben luckish and that's why he was called Ben Luckish now Cesar Margar is stating that I'm going to be might have been mix to this yet cuz I agree the name Lish I don't think is a real name again we're going to take Reub Maros's word for it. That's usually our policy when it comes to this, right? So, you know, the expression is you pick on someone your own size. So, I'm going to take Rab Maros's word, but the bottom line is says I'll be mix. To me, the name Lish is a little bit of a funny name, but I don't think he's called Lockish because of that. First of all, it can't be that's one out of thousand hundreds thousands of memories of Rashkish. And he says besides, but what about Rabud Lish? He said, well, I'll tell you what I think. I think there was a city that was known as Lish and he was known as Ben Lockish not because his father's name was Lish but as he says by the way that I found Zar Margolus in the in how is this for who brings from Berlin the great Berlin right the most often quoted that Berlin was bothered he said How did Rabbi Malish become ralluckish? You ever think about that? How did he become ra What does Ray slugish mean? Rabim balish became rakish is known as zak. Well, what does that mean? Raim it's like it's short. It's abbreviated for right. Why is he called lish? Says I don't think it's to say I actually believe that. He says that there was a city called Lish and Egra of Lish and that's why he was known as Lish and he said don't make from this because those brings dedicated his whole life to this heined very much and he did not know why was known as Lakish he wasn't simply happy is like the is lockish but he was from the city of Lish and he was also the head of Lish by the who would have been lish also came from lish but he wasn't rakish because he was never the murder but the bottom line is ra lish comes from lish and he's known as ra lish because he's the murder he says as it relates to maml I'll be honest with you I hear the horror as well maml I don't think that's a name I don't think maml is a name the problem is to say that maml is known as maml because of what he said in regarding someone that tells but it's impossible right he named It's just not it doesn't even get on to first base. It's not possible, right? It can't even be. But besides, we found so there's three more mammals that never said a word about the mam. Not I'll shame that father was maml because I agree I I never heard of a name mam I'll al shame and by the way you're not sure if there's a place called that talks about the base is I'll tell you even more than that there's a said that's probably what it was it was the city mam that's known as and that's who all these mam or but the bottom line is to say this about and to say this about this is already uh this is already pushing it I think this is too says I think evendah which is ground zero this is the one everyone knows that ground zero form even that I think is I think it's and the reason is because is mentioned in other places in chas as well he's mentioned in shabas and another place as well. You can tell me where's base is before a right base. Mak by the way there was another Y whose name was migdalah he didn't say anything about and by the way he's mentioned and embraces why is he known as migdalah the ter is from and from I agree with the thesis says I think it's fantastic and it's not goes back already in his classic commentary on the but at the same time but at the same time he says I thinkd which is the starting point for all of this I don't even think that's right and certainly that's way way way way beyond the scope it says I'm going to give you my own list let me give you my list who I think is mentioned in your midrashim who I think these are not real names but these are the pseudonyms 's histo by the way is he says you know so you need a license to say this sometimes right even wrote a safe which we talk about all the he has a 50page before he wrote it because you can even write something like this so you need a license if you're ever going to do something like this and his license is the talks about the great and the says boon yeah his name was boon So why was it called that happened with the with the son and the deal and the bad remember that incredible incredible but the bottom line is is that his name wasn't his name was so why they call him and he says it's interesting by the way ever make this observation all the had nicknames all the I don't know if this is because they have aliases, but the bottom line is all these super rich guys. NO, NONE OF THEM WERE KNOWN BY their regular name. They all had pseudonyms. But either way, but you want a license to say name is Boon. We He's known as Nakima because of something that happened to him. So there could be a Muslim that somebody would be known by a name because of something because of something that not happened to him because of something that he said. So here's a a very brief the list is close to 40 names. This is classic some of them are not I'll just mention a few he does it in alphabetical order. This is number three. Remember I is mentioned in one place in one a person can make it tonight regarding he's mentioned right. So a person let's say heard that is going to be coming to he's not sure and he wants to make to be able to go here this year. Problem is he doesn't know which way to make. So with the braer he could do it says the even though it says you could do such a thing it's wrong you can't make one of these this is the only that I said in Right. He said you have to figure out you have to figure out where the is. So that's why right why is he calling him an alm because we don't know his real name. So he's the whose name we don't know. He gets KNOWN AS WHAT? HE GETS KNOWN as it's because he's the one that said you HAVE TO KNOW. YOU HAVE TO KNOW IF HE'S coming to the mid or coming to the mar. Here's another one. Our favorite of all time, right? So why was Ilfa known as? He says I don't know if was his real name. I'm says when came back to this medish, right? So he saw became the rashiva and Ilfa said that had I stayed in yeshiva I'm telling you I would have been the rasha as a matter that they told him and so he said really you're telling me that I'm less than ask me any kasha ask me anything show me a if I can't be push from a mishna you'll see what's going to happen so he went he suspended himself from the mast of a ship and he said that if I can't figure one old person took him a little too literally he says you know what's the about this and that he said an in Aramaic is a ship he says I think he became known as ilah because of this incredible it's a real story where he makes this grand spectacle he says that's how he became known as because of that but that's not really what his name was he says they discuss if somebody asks an advice and he gives him the right advice he gives him the wrong advice. So, uh there's a whole sugara tells a story that somebody went to Danka and Iser. These were two money changers. One was Danka, the other one was Iser. And they asked him something and he gave them the wrong advice and the was that they were off the hook. He says interesting that money changers would be known as Danka and Iser, right? What a what's a danka in Aramaic? Money. What's an isser? It's money. He said, I'm assuming they were called danka is because this was their gashef. They were money changers. He says, "By the way, if that's the case, that mentions one time in." And you know what the says? He had 12,000 and he had it by you have a guy whose name is Isugra and this is 12,000 the is his first name was cash right this is his name. So the lights and they get literally cash by the way. This is why he's and as a result he became known as this is how he's known for all for all generations. Ever hear this name two places in he's also mentioned in funny name says goes pure to me why he's called this is this is one nobody would ever get. He says push it to me. He said because if you look at that he said in he's talking about of walls says right so if you have two I can't make my wall too close to your wall it's discussing is related to walls the says in Ezra this is pervas so this is in the first year of the reign of the kingish cyus the great kish mala sum to aim so kish the king he issues a decree an edict basil I want the bas to be built. The the city where the is and carbon is going to be brought the mizen and the walls are going to be founded. It should be 60 tall. X glow. I want the walls to be made up of rows, rows of stone, three stones on each row. The word means wall and the world word means wall. These are very Aramaic words over here in Pericv in say for Ezra. But means wall and means wall. Ashad who said two is one of them is regarding or you ever heard a name like Ashad said it's posit because he said regarding walls and knew these Ezra that talk about and they knew that is a wall and is a wall and that's how he became known as that name Benbach this is another famous one right why was Bagbach called said Bagbach and Benihei were both the same person righthe are both the same person and they're both Ben Grim and what what Shikh is because B giml is five and he is also five and we know that Ara got the he and S got the hey and being that Ara and S both got the H. So that's why they become known as Ben Bagbag and Behei. Incidentally, Rabu Margol says that he always thought that I don't know if Ben Bagbag was really a a G, but it could be Ben Bagbag was called Benbagbag because he's the son of a G. In fact, bag is Ben Garus. Says it could be his father was a G and his mother was a guaras and he's known as Ben Bagbag. Bag means Bengurus. Says if that's the case, it would open up a little bit of our mind because in Shabas Giml there's a Tan who's known as Yehuda Bengim is Yehuda Bengrim. He said I also found in Yuma someone whose name is Yehuda Bengor. How's that for her name? Yehuda Ben Gregor. He said I think Yehuda Bengor is the same name. Ben Garam is like Ben Bagbback. His father's a Gar, his mother's a hence he's Ben Garam. And Ben Groas is the same thing. It's Ben Viguas. Hence, you end up with a name like like Benus. Here's another one. There's someone that's mentioned one time in his name is Ben Shalus. That's his name. Ben Shalus. is mentioned over there says so we know is allowed to do up until what point is allowed to do so until that's the point that she's allowed to do it theor says when I went to Rabaka said I don't agree with this she and Benalus I never heard of Benalus so my goals Rabaka already was ever heard named Ben Shalus? He says, "I don't think his name was really Ben Shalus. I don't think his name was Ben Shalus." He said, "Take a look at the it says and the Rambam says in what does it mean when it develops here?" the word could mean here and that's why he was called benchus because there's one from him and is a cyrus harbe and that's where I never heard of bench cuz that wasn't his real name this was a pseudonym and he's called this name because this is the one this is the one that he said this goes on and on and on he talks about who was a that we say he was he once talked very shares And he became right. He he was physically he was physically harmed. Why was he called Benisi? He says maybe because the medum says that one of the nim was Benusi and Benusi says that Tanuma was clappy who did what Gadi Benusi did and that it was clappy Milo. So it's for that reason he too became known as that. One last one he says. You know the great is known sometimes as what? He says if you take a look at Rashi in Sanhedrin Rash is why he was known as Nafka. He brings two shot him. One shot is he says because his father was a a blacksmith and a blacksmith that's why some he's known as Barnafra. Then he says another shot is because he was very handsome and Nafka has something to do with being handsome. So it says Ru Margolas being that Rashi said two shot him. So it's clear didn't have a clar if you could say two I could already say a third and he says maybe because discussing that we know ordinarily on his one of the exceptions is he said it's talking about a certain type of where it was done by a blacksmith he said I had the to be the real in when and when is it it's margas I know this is going to undermine a little bit what I said earlier that's someone who we have hundreds or if not thousands of mentioned in there's no way there's one member that he said that's going to be a a guiloy and why he was called by why he was called that's why we knocked out in the beginning of this rabbi he said but this line I've never seen a line like this in my life said was so happy with the that he had to be that he said who knows if that's not why sometime not always it's usually just the great maybe sometimes he would become known he would become known as again if Rashi I wouldn't say anything but Rashi himself was already unsure already Rashi saying maybe already you can go ahead and you could say a third. But the bottom line is what began with a thesis for he says with regards to and we mentioned that he said it say others said it regarding which says I can't even fathom but went through he went through a list of close to 40 Oh, by the way, we left that we left out the main one, right? We said there was bari in. So why is bari called barpuli? Because you know what it means to do a mice appeal? It means to BE A MANER. SAYS that's why he was called barpuli. Why else would he been known as barpuli? Because this was his f. This is what he used to do for a living. And it's for that reason that this is what uh he was known by and that's why he was known as Rab Puli. But the bottom line is he says if you look around I found close to 40 different times where it's to me that the pseudonym that he got was based on this is chapter one in the chapter two he goes in a little bit of a different angle. He says I found another thing and this he says I found countless times. He says literally countless countless times and that is you find sometimes with and would say that had something to do with their name. He said they're not called by the name because of what they said but because goes the other way around. It's a chicken and an egg. IT'S BECAUSE of their name. They had a gishmak in it. And he goes through just giving examples one after another. He starts from he does a he was super methodical right just to mention a few. It's not a coincidence. You ever see him again? He said, "Take a look at Said that's not that's not a right. That's not a coincidence." He says, "You just said something about what's your name?" Oh, my name's Shan. That's my name. It's I don't think it's a coincidence. He said, he said he said it in three places in Shabas coming up. He said, you know, it's the only three places in that you find the all three times. I don't think it's aesh. How about what about we've mentioned this in the past? He said, "By the way, you know how many times talks about the region Yehuda?" So, why is he not talking about the gal? Why is he talking about Yehuda? He said his name was Yehud. talking about. This is this you get the thing, right? This just goes on and on and on. The sheer brilliance of of putting together a piece like this is just not just not nea just reminds you of how the bra the kite of of the there's so many that you can open where you see the is something that was in such an incredible way but either way why we talk about this in like I said excuse because bari was mentioned and and Margolus has him in his list of top 40 pseudonyms and shown as Baruli because he was a manaker. And to be maner means you're involved in this avoid.