Chulin 5

Today's is and we are about 25 lines from the top of today's being learned. So we're moving along in the beginning of the very first of the which deals with specifically who is and who isn't allowed to sh the opening verse of the isra had a very long discussion trying to figure out who is it that's being from The word additionally is and the brought six different amongst coming to be it's coming to be it's coming to be marba it's coming to be that's or that's either way the wrapped up that discussion very much so on the bottom of but We saw in yesterday's daf the Gmorra took the queue and decided to do a little bit of a deep dive into some of these different that were possible in what's being from that came about from the first two do talked a little bit about autouti as it relates to and then the garra got involved a little bit in mum as it relates to and that's really where we are now. So just to set up the segue a little bit better Rashi who was one of the six and the Mishna said that when the Mishna says coming to what type of and it's predicated on aesh that said and that is that although you would think can have nothing to do with. There should be a restraining order between him and kosher meat. Yet as long as we are before he does the we can rely on his and it's based on an states said that's exactly what the Mishna means when it says it's coming to be in the event that we're going to be what does mean in the event that we were not well you could always be afterwards and as long as afterwards it's okay that in of itself would be fine the delved a little bit into this sheet of ra and the gmorra immediately said that as much as it's aesh [snorts] but there's a mess it's a brighter that talks about pes specifically the laws oft the brighter says that if there's an who has as far as we're concerned he's not in say he's not in your lad his after and even though is but at the same time we assume that they're going to be with their with the guy and the reason is because so you see that even when it comes to an but at the same time we give him the benefit of the doubt that to the extent that he has two in front of him in one he can go in the other he can go we assume that he's always going to go so when it comes to a we're going to give that m the benefit of the doubt as well and being that he could do the and conform withita and he could do the and not conform to conform. It's for that reason the is that and then the said that maybe there's another ayat to what said and this is going to pivot us right into where we're holding right now and that is from right in the beginning of the [snorts] says. So the gim said that what does the mean when it says now you could say maybe means someone that's a m he's a m for one of the mitzvah but the gmorra says isn't that included already in the of the is for sure someone that's a mis because if he is someone that's anal because of He's mal he's for sure. So once the tells me already that someone that's a even for something so like which was which involves he's included in so you see any is included oh must be it's coming to be something that's even a bigger than a what could be a bigger than a I'll tell you what a because being that a is someone that is negligible in this specific area of makes a lot of sense that maybe you wouldn't be able to trust him says but the said there's no because there's another type of m that is a bigger than your classic m and it could be it's that that is coming to be what is that it's someone that's a is coming to tell me is a lad you think for Sure, he's a guy. No. who said in the name of the great and it could be that the is who the is being when he says you tell me the is no but when it comes to it's and here in the words of the it would be more. So the comes out that from but there's no from the is referring to the rather could be it's referring to the the bottom line is in the segue of the Gar we just mentioned what said in the name of and that is now is going to very much I can't say digress because this is the but very much talk about this of likean said in the name of or maybe this is too big of aesh for us to be able to live with and really someone that's and As a result, it would be. Now, if you looked ahead a little bit, you saw that really the first chunk of today's is a [snorts] matter of fact, in order to properly understand it, we would need a little bit of background in so we're going to talk about but in a very very light context. But as it relates to an introduction, this is what we need. One of the Mal Bavid was melat in fact was one of the first kings. He was the fourth king of Malus Bavid after the kingdom was separated. So it was David Schlma and then in the times of Schlma's son the country was divided between who became the melik of Yehuda and Benovat who became the mel of hashatim's greatgrandson was king yafhat. Now at the time that was the melud the mel was the infamous in the words of rash and was at everybody knows gets a very very infamous shout out in the mission in the beginning of per as one of the so from a spiritual perspective you couldn't be farther apart than the gap and the distance between and stating ing that and had a very unique relationship. They were very very close friends as we're going to see in the course of the beginning of today's in fact at some point in Alfa and sign a pact and they decide that they're going to go together to defend the land of against mel of who is trying to take it away from them. So the context is that Yisha travels up north, right? That's where the are and he meets with Akav and they're together and they're plotting and they're planning and they're in the war room and they're trying to come up and devise some sort of strategy of how they're going to go about this joint alliance. Remember, even though they're all yidden and they're all kings, but there's this huge period between the this is a unique relationship. Unique because it's rare that there would be such an alliance between aud. It's even more unique because of the fact and is a but at the same time they're friends. they come together and it's from this that we're going to try to prove or disprove what Raan said in the name of and that is the name of histo and he proved it from where from who was who had from the meal that prepared for him says sounds like he was the did for him and not just for him but for his whole entourage and he persuaded him he convinced them to go to and assist him in this fight seems to be is a bad guy specifically. He's a he's eating from his so that this was right but the says I don't understand the right doesn't say anyway that actually what it says is and uh I don't know maybe he shacked in and he told him that I'm not feeling so well I have a stomach bug I'm uh not Uh, I'm vegan. I don't know. Maybe he didn't eat. How do you know that he actually ate it? But says, I'll tell you why. Cuz it says that he persuaded him and he convinced him. And it sounds like and he used that to persuade him. So if he persuaded him and he used the food to persuade him and he was successful in his persuasion. So it certainly sounds like he ate. But the says, "No, but maybe it's two separate things. that's just uh social protocol. In addition to that, he was able to persuade him. But the says it's not true. Whenever it says it always means it's not that true of the says that's a that talks about why you're not allowed into marry because it may lead to doesn't say anything about food over there. It sounds like he assistar says I don't say anything about food but maybe it means by the way as well maybe it means and that's the way the is going to take place but says I'll ask you a better says and this and this talks to the so the we know instigated somehow to be in this incredible a biblical way and akadesh comes to tus with tus to the sultan and he says you know you persuaded me to do something that I really didn't want to do now you're going to tell me the persuaded with so you see clearly that even the word is grammatically correct but says shiny when you're talking about the whole is a muscle really what does it mean the sen persuaded it's a borrow term it's a borrowed term. So you can ask has absolutely no but when you're using the word in the literal sense always means but the says maybe you're right means food but how do you know it means maybe it was and it wasn't in other words maybe poured wine to and you would have that drank the wine of but you have no right that he ate his flesh and if that's the case you have no says if you have a from here that was able to drink the wine of isn't that he'd be allowed to eat the meat of why are you suggesting that would make it better because Maybe it would be because even though we know you're not allowed to drink the wine of but you'll say all he is not and well if that's the case if you're telling me that there's a from here that was allowed to drink the wine of because has to mean at the very least well by definition then that would mean that there are allowed to eat his boser as well Because really the two things are totally in the same thing. If you can drink his wine, he's not that means he doesn't have a dinner. Well, that means he should be able to eat his food. Says it's not true. What was the wine over there? It was hadn't physically poured. There's no way would drank that. But it was just because of also related to but being that all it is is it could be that's all and at that very very early point in Jewish history that had not been put in place but as it relates to meaning you're right from the fact that it says that implies that there was either But I didn't know that there was maybe all there was was and wasn't a problem even though is because at that point there was no such thing as but as it relates to eating from his could be the law of applied and maybe would have never eaten from really but the says two roots into this number one it's not it's the der it's not uh royal for a king to drink and not eat. So if implies at the very least that he drank it would have meant by definition that he ate as well. And if that's the case, you see he was able to eat from the or you could say it says just from the flow of the seems to suggest right once you appreciate it's the is feeding pun intended into the safer of the and what is telling you is is not two disparate ideas but the way the came about was through the bottom line is it's posh that when he came and he met with and they're talking about going to and convinced him to do so as the says he did so through implying that ate from the And if that's the case, this is but the Gmorra continues and the Gmorra says maybe was the so we know is one of the and was g obviously was also a's butler. So maybe was the and obviously you let it eat from the of but the says it says it says have a suffix couldn't be the one so it must be there's more than one now just appreciate the question a little bit better it says doesn't the same that is the so that the holds is not it could be it's or's henchmen so says maybe It's but it can't be that would have been the only one. So it could be a is one of the but maybe there's but there has to be other as well but the says maybe the other were from the 7000 where the 7000 again it's very helpful to know it says so ultimately when goes and he wipes out this whole says I'm leaving behind 7,000 people right 7,000 people that didn't worship the bal so you see not Everybody was so maybe the over here were all not from the but says they were all hiding from right was even more infamous wife and they're all hiding and as a result they can't be says the but I have another suggestion maybe's people were good the way Rashi explains that even though all the good guys were hiding from Isl But it's Mustab turns to his wife and says, "Listen, you know, he's my CFO, he's my COO, he's my butler, he's my Mashk, he's my he's my need, you can't touch them." So it's that is on some level and was going to allow this to happen. It says to Gar, even though E is Zl's people all had to hide, but maybe Akov had some veto power and he had a few highranking officials that were quote unquote untouchable and as a result there maybe the people right the is exhausting every option maybe they're the ones that areing but the says it can't be people were good people because the says that when you have a that's a add all these guys are bad guys says the so's guys are bad guys are bad guys the only one good person that we're aware of is a can't be for everybody and it's for that reason it's inevitable that is eating from the of this is grace but I still have a possibility maybe people were not such good people. Okay. So what's the benefit of saying that? So says the so all the extra that took place were eaten by people. So again, ate and his people ate. We know for sure there were many, but it's possible was one of the we never negated that. So maybe was eaten by because he's the one and it could be that all the and the whole of maybe they're not good people and they're eating from all the other can't be that way. Why? Because we just quoted a mish that says So what do you see from there? You see the inverse is true as well. If the bad's guys are bad guys so the good's guys are good guys. So if is good that means are good as well. And this for sure multiple can't be that is only so if that's the case for sure someone inevitably is eating from the still not happy and maybe came with his own, right? Ever see a rabbi travel? Came with his own brings his own food. So maybe that's how he came. He came with his own and maybe that's how this all went down. It says, it's true. And by the way, maybe the was referring to or maybe not. BUT WHATEVER REGARDLESS and if he has his own that's how it played itself. says if you know the history and the story and the relationship between you know this is not true because you know what does that mean if you take a look at the top we know for sure it was a literally they they were not separated at all this is like rebinos and It's for that reason there's no question in the world that from a that's the way it would have been the say how do you know that like where you getting that from there must be a source from a right says is it because of the following where tells right I'm like you my nation's like your nation sounds like one and you're touching it even in a sense even in anense but he said when he can tweet continued in the same post again. He said, by the way over here doesn't mean beggar. It means so you're going to tell me you're going to tell me that this is also related to what does have to do with right can't be. So what do you have to say? [laughter] What he meant to say was our fates are going to be like stock and barrel. meaning we're in this together and whatever is going to happen to my source will happen to your source and whatever happens to your source will happen to my source and so too when he said but the bottom line is is that you have no ria from there right so what is the what's the source how do you know how do you know the relationship between And is and it's true even like on an such an incredible from here. So the says I know from the following says so that's they were sitting they were each sitting on their throne they're wearing the clothing of and they were at the at the threshing floor and they're at the entrance way of the gate of says what does it mean when it says doesn't mean literally Was there a at the entrance way of not what does it mean when it says it means they were sitting like a we learned in the mission they used to sit in a semicircle so they should be able to see each other hear each other and be mis with each other in a way where everything would develop in the proper way. The bottom line is you see from here that the way that was sitting was the way that the Sanhedrin used to sit and that was a sign of thus you see you see it was there's no way he would have came with his own because it was means he trusted him even on and still you see he ate from that was longwinded very long-winded that says the so again this was right was from that from the but the says maybe there's another ride from that same para the says the context over there is again and his wife again and this time Ela soi was and they wanted to kill him and as a result he's in hiding and because he's in hiding he doesn't have access to natural sources of food by the way this is where is hiding and he doesn't have access to natural food and he has the miracle of the box tree interesting but Elio Anovi has his miracle and the way he sustained himself self was through ravens. You descend the name of where did this come from? It came from theft of it came from his kitchen. So what do you see from here? He's eating from the kitchen of eating from the kitchen of says although it's true there's no question in the world this is a good but could be says this was and for this already would have been so it's true this is also but being that it's you can't be anything from you don't see anywhere it was a this miracle is happening where all of a sudden the are coming and they're depositing food obviously this is coming from So obviously there's some sort of and it's for that reason this is something that was okay. What do you mean? Right. It's said maybe means the right the two their name was. So and they came together and they're the two uh over here that are bringing the food fellow says. And doesn't it say over there says well there's not a raven it's a guy by the name of so maybe the were not ravens but it's two people whose name is Amal. So again asked this to turn to he told him it's the I have two guys whose name is it's not you're nice to meet you right no it's not uh it's not that's what's going on but the gar says maybe the reason they were called is because of the place that they came from that we mentioned a second ago by bets So you see a man named and you see a place named. So maybe they're because so two Eden that came from maybe that's what's going on over here. Now you're going to tell me you're going to refer to two people that come from as what's the so the way explains you find let's say the but then you're usually referring to the entire um what do you find that two guys that come from are going to be considered but says yeah I'll show you a present doesn't the say and when they learned this question this they were very bothered Right? It's an oxymoron is not the same thing said. It's because she had come from the place and means from. So you see from here that sometimes the word can be used to describe the certainly two people but the it should have said it with an extra rashi and a little bit more says that even though you find with one with one right but being that over here it's misleading I could hear that it means like ravens or maybe it means well here you have to be a little bit more precise so sometimes when not modactic when it comes to the extra sh but being that over here it could have been misleading if meant would have said it with an extra y and being that it doesn't say it with an extra y for sure this is what's going on I think it's good to exhale for one second before we go v and uh speak out to related very very short light related to the first part of the d so the gamarra brought the kdesh of the name and that is and his means. So you see clearly that ate from the of and his people must be that despite the fact that it was a m didn't have a DINNER OF A GUY. Hence the a whole windy if you do the math more than 10 questions and answers where the worked on developing that's how it happened and there was so many different suggestions. The final suggestion the Gumar said maybe came with his own people and how do you know that he relied on and the Gumar said because it's not the way it was he trusted. How do you know that? It's based on a and they were sitting in the which was at the entrance way of now the says a usually means like a threshing floor but it can't be there's a threshing floor at the gate of the shamro so what then does g mean it must be they sat like the sanhedrin who used to sit the way you sit in a gin it's a reference to the sanhedrin they used to sit in a way where there was of that must be the and sitting. YOU SEE THEY TRUST EACH OTHER, THEY LOVE EACH OTHER. That's how you know that ate from. Hence we can learn this incredible and this gimor says that being that the dar that when it says that and sat beg it wasn't mish but rather it was bes that says that they that says why it's Dr. Because if you take a look at this is in par. So the over there is talking about and what's the best says the scout. What should you do? You should take them to the sh and you should go ahead and uh you should go ahead and you should kill them. doesn't mean you kill them by the what it means is you go to the because that's where she quotes the and that's where the mis supposed to be says the you see in this where did where was this where did they used to sit they used to sit at the sh of the city so it's very gishm they were beg they were sitting by the shamro and they were sitting in a way that was the reason the Pik described it the reason we use the mush of the Sanhedrin it's like a funny MUSHEL IS BECAUSE THAT'S where the Sanhedrin used to sit so being that the location of the Sanhedrin would have been in the and that's where they were sitting and they were sitting so that's the it's right here the truth is that this Marsha opens up our eyes a little bit to something that if you notice you'll find very often and that is that the Sanhedrin the bezdon of the city used to sit at the shower of the city give you another paras in the parro they went to the why you going to the gate of the city. What's doing anything? Going to catch a train. Why are you going to the gate of the city? The terrace says you're going to the where are the there by the Here's another. So this idea that the bezden would sit at the sh if you notice is mentioned in several in the truth is the inherim is a very long this is at the very end of says the Any Jewish city that has a population of 120 or more, you have to be the Ram brings the Sanhedrin had a sit at the show of the city as the says what's the mishb where is this? It's a it's right you should hate bad you should love good and you should be m you should establish at the entrance way OF THE CITY THAT'S WHERE THE BEST SHOULD BE SO the quotes and he brings this as a I saw that and his and I saw green in his that he wrote on the ra the two great sen they both asked the same kash on the ra the raam says that there's a that wed the best and have to sit it had to sit by the sh how do I know that from YOU HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT I MEAN the brought it out very but the bottom line is you have it's so clear that's where the san used to sit that's where the basin used to sit so why does need to fly [laughter] from isn't it again once you open your eyes this is an idea that you're going to see everywhere you have to say that even though you see in the that this is the way it was but there's no that it had to be that way had one where the seems to be instructing it's a different it's a as if to say it's not like a punk That's the way it was. But if you want to do it somewhere else, no one's going to stop you, right? No, this is the way it had to be. Again, it's not a but at the very least it's something that's close to it being and it could be and it's why the brought and didn't bring one of these other either way. That's the first a. Second and this is also from the base medish of it says he says that there's a medish that discusses the story of the tanum says as follows when did his thing he got up he prepared a feast and the rest is history he did what he it. So he brings from the in his purus on the again it's in that says right what's this Indian about why did he go ahead and make a say it says that was able to convince to agree to go with him to war and the garra says how did he convince him he convinced him by giving him meat because a Well, who is the greatest persuader of all time? Who's the EVER IT'S SO WENT AHEAD and he was able to be how did he do it? says the says so this is talking about when the happened. So it says that they were burnt and they were burnt through the through the and the gumar has a discussion what does it mean says the you want to know what means what does it mean why because of the came about through which is something that goes into of the person says that's a hard I can tell it's because of the and it was came through and that's why they end up getting punished the way they were punished but over here that the camel is now again you have a but why we're making such a big deal about the ter is because the whole of came about through it wasn't like a p it was gra of food right you show up to an event it happens to be a table that's set up no that was what made it happen and clerk is the one who served it and they were through the that's why the punishment was it was either way we now turn our attention to the second part of today's daf which is very much a continuation of the first part of today's daf so again we have and that is maybe you can bring a this next Five, six lines hopefully will sound familiar. So says everyone's even a even when it says what kind of doesn't mean someone that's because his brothers died. I don't need a to tell me that he's included in that's why he's a goes without saying. It must be someone that's a case. What's that? Is it a regular? You already told me that in what must it mean? It must be a that's a big than a what could be a bigger than a oh probably the one thing that could be a bigger is and if that's the case says I'll tell you and is the first time we're seeing why not because anyone that denies it's as if he's and it goes in the reverse as well. If someone's if that's the case, so what then is the that's included? That's a big is going to be a riot. What did just do when was handling in yesterday's diggar said I have a right to because he see that's included that's a biggerish than a regular it must be says no maybe it's says oh I have a right that's included that's a bigger than isn't no maybe it's in other words when you're learning the of there's no riot because maybe it's when you're learning the right because maybe It's the identical gar going now it's a riot to one of them right we'll get back to that it's a riot to one of them but which one that we have no right I'll ask you aasha is it says in the where does it This is the second. So we're going back to now it says we learn from not everyone is allowed to bring a carbon, right? What's the carbon that the talks about in the beginning? Right? That's what's going on over there. So not everyone that wants to bring an can bring an it says says that there's a a later in the even is allowed to bring carbon right we know that and in that there's no m that says that that means when it comes to a guy it's all the same and even if he's a he can still bring a carbon as opposed to a that's when you have this this nuance where you have this as opposed to when it comes to the right it says it's coming to be it's coming to be that they could so that they can come and Just hit the pause button for one second. Shouldn't be says like this. As a matter of fact, even quotes. What then is the whole word? It's being that it says in the buck you know so that's but the bottom line is the price continues. So really if you do a highle recap on this Bryce this Bryce is flip-flopping. We start off it says and we're going to take your carbon. However, if you're a m then uh you're not going to also if you're I don't know how to make sense of all this. [clears throat] You said and that implies and then you told me so make up your mind that's not is talking about where the person is not he's the next case is talking about as we've seen in the is more him we think that by taking his carbon he'll tweak the one issue that he has and he'll ultimately uh do chua as opposed to the person that's mish completely vague he has much bigger issues and I don't think by us addressing and taking this garban that's going to get him to do trou as a result he's someone that's going to be excluded okay so that's as much as at first glance a little bit of a contradiction but there's an easy way out look at the next part of the it says who is that is That was the first part of the and it's not said that the and from this person from the you have to say there's no other way to read this. This is the way the bright must when it says in the end it's not three things one two three it's really two things or what do you see from You see from here that someone that's treated like a and if that's the case and this is really really where this part of the gumar ends and the daff didn't end but this is where this part of the gummor ends. I think it's kadai before we go v to just open up the and just see the of the in terms of how these last bunch of play themselves out and the truth is that these of m is from the comes up in many different and by the way even though we're not going to speak out any raid other than go through the right now but over the years we've gone through this in many times and I checked before the sh there's several related raid ites posted already to today's daf that very much go into all the or shouldn't say all but many of the gra topics and some of the contemporary Shilas that relate to but just in terms of making a on the last few just see how the laws of play. So this is all in it starts some of that and gives it to the and you're allowed to eat from his I'm skipping the let's say you didn't check the you can't eat can of his life as long as you do it afterwards. And you can't give now you have to check it before and as long as you check it before everything is going to be okay. What's the sim it's but it's ultimately why would the ask and by the way I didn't look in any of the right this is not based on so could be this is wrong but just based on going through the gar together the br and the gar said the bottom of so there was a price that supported It certainly sounds like oh and by the way if you remember there was a from a second from the beginning of the was that could be when it says it's coming to me which but being that we just read the words of the well if that's the case working backwards then it must be which means you have not one br you have two So it's why the would be in right pretty straightforward. I'm skipping now. Even if it's only or even if he's not a he has a what's the mart to this now as it relates to that thing didn't talk about but that's something that emerged very very much from all the that the only time there's even a discussion of being able to eat from a m is if he's a boy but if how could you trust him I mean didn't say but it sort of jumped off the page actually and even more so when [laughter] as it relates to him not being okay it was and even though he had a from but at the end of the day it's really not much of a conversation it was pretty much knocked out. What about the same meaning that same third party that said and it's based on that you have the What does that mean? That's based on something that speak out and that is why do you have to tell me that is a anyways and is presumably anyways. So why do you have to speak say that you see from here then whatever we talk about a it means even if he's not a for those two things so that that and even if it's the other that in of itself would also be enough for somebody to become a m let's say someone's a m for one of the other right so it's not it's not just one or the other. So that's posh. It goes without saying that you'd be allowed to eat a so why is it even a sif this is why again also came out from the where is that's when you have that was as opposed to a regular over there not then brings the rama may be held not that way and then finally they made a very deal about that. So obviously this is something that was newsworthy and needed to be spoken out. But the bottom line is a little bit of a in terms of the innovates to rate for that already. I am related to RAM. So now we're going to learn a few more lines. Gumar is just going to pick up on one point that came up a little bit and that is we mentioned from the that the is that if a moment wants to bring a carbon we don't accept this carbon. How do you know that? And from there we learn what's either is this I thought we learned it from somewhere else. What's somewhere else? It says in the par of the right he was from the [snorts] mayor sounds like not every over here doesn't mean someone that's but it just means someone that's just a regular guy may it sounds like not every person can bring a carbat from here we learn that a woman said in the neighbor it says And we learn from here someone who did an but had he known that he was doing a he would have done the maybe he could bring a carbon if he's a person that wouldn't have been that person is any but being that someone that's a m would not have been so it's for that reason for that reason this is a card that a can't bring a car now says from when learned up What's the whether or is there what if you have so he wasn't a and right now he ate the question is could he bring a not that's [snorts] right what's the what's the point the point is that if The reason he's in this may because a m is in well he wouldn't be able to bring it because at the end of the day he's a not but a m but if the reason a m doesn't ring is because he's a he would not he would have been a because even though he's a m he's a m only if he's not a mam he would be able to bring it but what's the bottom line from here the bottom line is that you see two different is how you know that a m is not letting a garment either from mik or from either from we brought that said it's learned out from what is the let is it from or is it these two other that we learn says not fair because it says in which parish it says by the and it's where does it say it says by the one is talking about the and the other is telling me the I need could tell me that a woman can't bring a kas and you know tell me you can't bring another but I'll tell you why I only know that a woman can't bring I would have told me because what's the purpose of a kas is forap so being that it's for kapuro so therefore he can't bring the katas what's the point rashi says because he's not getting kapar anyways I think is the rama in the beginning that says the had they had to do chuva so being that he's not doing chuva he's a anyways he's anyways not getting the kapar it's like almost so therefore he wouldn't be able to has nothing to do with just bringing a gift. Why wouldn't you accept a gift from him? And if you would have said because he has no to bring it. He wants to bring a gift. We're not interested in your gifts. Maybe we should take it. Says if we're not going to take it, we don't want right. A regular person has to bring a this guy gets off the hook. No, it doesn't work that way. So you're going to bring the carbon anyways. Either way, you can go both ways. That's why you need both one more postcript to the so the B said that it says in the par of the and then when it says it's coming to that in other words the word is reb as the is it's a being people that are mean something bad says in the name of this is referring to people that are they're very smart they're very clever but they go literally like sheep right it's a milo the fact that yidden sometimes go like sheep they're very smart they're very clever ever but at the same time they follow the they follow the this is something that didn't do and it's a but the bottom line is what do you see from here that from we learned we learned it's a not that are like willing to accept where it says that's the basis of this over It says just the word say I'm asking I catch you now in the reverse said wherever it says what about the following it says and that over there is actually so you see even though it says and we still over and being that it says so it's for that reason over there it's going to be different and we're going to we'll stop here tomorrow will speak out uh the rest of A red.