Chulin 64

Today's d is and we are 17 lines from the bottom of moving along in the of what exactly makes up an up. He says it was for that there are a lot more behemos than there are to in order for a to bear it has to be paro and it has to be malas all other animals are to it's for that reason so to keep it Simple. What the Tyra did was the Tyra mentioned the and everything else is going to be excluded. But the same token that the are much more than the in fact there are only 24. Everything else is so therefore what the Tyra did was it mentioned the 24. So that we'll know that everything not mentioned in the Tory is that this is in fact a a lesson it's coming to teach every person who's teaching that you should always speak. That's what the terra did. The terra could have been and the terra could have mentioned all the animals that are the terra could have been and the terra could have mentioned all the tar but the terra didn't do that. What the did was it spoke the spoke about the spoke about the reason is because they are the not the and from here we learn parenthetically who's the one that said this but it's Rav Rav is the one throughout Shas who has memories about the value of Rab said in the beginning of that a person is gonna have to give for everything even for the Ram says about Rav that ra never spoke you find you don't find you don't find in the first sign a whole bunch of places in where you Rav Rav was a phenomenal we've spoken a lot about this Rav was there's a mentions that Rav was all the child that if the Bryce is mentioning the 10 of Rav and the Ram's right that Rav never spoke the you'd think it would have made the Bryce's top 10. So how come it's not mentioned anywhere? It says that Rav used to always d for the Rav never looked outside of his dal. He never went without his sites and without his villain. If Rav never spoke of the he was such a shask how is it possible? How's it possible? It's not mentioned the price. Either way, again, this is we've spoken a lot about, but this is and this line right here is one of the most important lines in the sug at the end of the we'll speak out some raid about this. But for now, said a very important that if you want to know if an is or as we see that there was confusion even amongst even the Hamishno and the hatanak weren't sure about the exact nature of many of the 24 that are mentioned in the Torah. So said I'll I'll tell you a very important way to live and that is if there's a mess on an that it's trust the mess and you could eat it. He continued and he said a hunter is believed to say meaning that is in it of itself a messiah as well. If hunter says I have a messiah for my that this is okay then that constitutes messiah and that would be fine. In other words, was making a a broad general statement that and as a a sub point to that general statement is that a hunter who says that I have a messiah from my rebi that would constitute messiah I'm can qualify that he said the only time that say can trust on what his rebi told him and that that would be the equivalent of a messiah is you would need that this rebi should be familiar with the 24 he should also be familiar with the names of the 24. So if he's someone that's very very versed he's very knowledgeable in this field of science then you can trust him when he tell you that this is and that would constitute said that is believed to say that rebi as in his rebi that he learned in yeshiva from or and is his rebi in hunting his mentor the person that taught him his his his parnosas as didn't qualify this. He said that the only time this reb is believed if he's very very knowledgeable in this field. If we're talking about his rebi that's a hunter then it makes sense. But if it's his as in his okay I could understand that maybe his will be familiar with the names of these animals or birds. But how's he supposed to know the exact nature of these birds? It's so unlikely that his would be familiar with the exact nature of of these birds. Thus, it must be says the so that this was checkmate. This must be proof that when said doesn't mean it's because how is going to be it's not it's not rather what the will do when he's presented with a sh is he'll have resources and different people that are versed in this area of science and he can speak to them and and they'll be able to impart from their wisdom so that the rebi will be able to take that information like the and did throughout the generations and incorporate it into the shim and be able to determine what is. But the point is as it relates to this ms if that the only time the rebi can impart a messiah is if he's baky by it sounds like he himself has to have this knowledge there's not secondhand knowledge he has to have it on his own and it must be that it's rabbit it's interesting because you know you do find that the that the were in a lot of areas of science and math and medicine in fact the rama when he lists the criteria of being a member of the sanhedrin so the rama says that in addition to you know being a tremendous and being refined in mid and being humble it's an imposing person it's also necessary to have secular because otherwise how you going to judge and you have to beam on some level to be able to you know understand these these basic but at the same time I guess to take it to this level of there it was understood by the gar that would have to mean that could not mean In fact, the vulgarian says that you find with regards to the love of so the says and you find so once the uses the it's the same and another time the uses the what's the difference and so the go says that we're dealing with had to be bucky both and he had to have as well because otherwise how would he be able to properly How would you know if it's a but either way so there is a concept of the way lays it out in the beginning of but at the same time on this level it was understood that the would have to be not from would have to come from so is going to digress now we're going to discuss a a completely different which is going to take us into tomorrow's stuff but we'll come back and let readwise and speak about the but first about eggs. You're allowed to buy eggs from a non-Jew. And the is that you don't have to be concerned is that anything that you are not allowed to eat, any animal that's off limits, anything that comes from that animal is off limits as well. It's for that reason you're not allowed to drink the of a non-cooser animal. You're not allowed to drink even the of a kosher animal. That's a tra. The same is true for an egg. So if a non-cooser bird lays an egg, obviously the is you're not allowed to eat the egg. Stating that says the you're allowed to buy an egg from a non-Jew and you don't have to be concerned that this egg even though you know for sure it's the egg of a chicken, you know it's a kosher egg. You don't have to be concerned. Why the reason is because you could assume that of these eggs are not these eggs are not it's for that reason it's not going to be a problem but ask that's all good if you know for sure that it's coming from a kosher bird. So if it's coming from a chicken for example which is kosher. So now your concern is was it a we know are and nea certainly is going to be a me. So as a result, we could assume for sure that it's kosher. But what about the concern that maybe it's coming from a non- kosher bird? Not all birds are kosher. I mean, we see it's very confusing the of what makes a kosher bird a non- kosher bird. So you see an egg, how do you know that it came from a chicken? Maybe it came from something that's not kosher. Answered. He said, "It only works if the guy tells you that this egg that I'm selling you, it came from that chicken right there." two things. Number one, he says it came from but says why do you have to say why have to add that into the of what the non-Jew has to say in order for us to be able to buy his egg says because otherwise he'd be able to finagle his way out if he was ever caught that he wasn't telling the truth. In other words, a buddh says he can't just trust a nonju. So you have to have circumstantial evidence. There has to be something making us feel comfortable that he's actually telling the truth. If he points to the chicken, he says the egg came from this chicken, then we trust him. Why? Because this person's obviously running a business, albeit a mom and pop perhaps. It doesn't matter the size of the business, but this is something that he needs to do in order for him to be able to support his family. So, we assume that he won't lie if it can compromise his business in any way. So if he points to a chicken and he says that this is where the egg came from and then later he was found to not be telling the truth, then obviously it would come with a with an invoice and that's something we assume he's not willing to do. Thus it's an in that circumstance and only in that circumstance that we trust him. If however he says it came from a chicken, it's going be very hard to disprove him at a later point. Say it came from a chicken. I know it didn't come from this chicken. So it's true it came from that one or the chicken that it came from died. He has to give us specific information so that we would be able to be sure that he would be afraid to be lying because if he was lying we'd be able to find out. What's interesting from this gamar is it sounds like that on some level a non-Jew has nonas ordinarily if a tells you that something is kosher or non-cooser or if a guy walks into bedd and he wants to say about loan sh money of course a non-Jew is possible so from this it would seem that given certain circumstances there's no question that in any yhudi sometimes is belief now of course if you're going to sit down and learn the which we're not going to do the first thing you're going to say is this is not a question of DNA mus is not a question of this is certainly not a question of DNA. This is a question is it a kosher egg or is it a non-cooser egg which finds itself in the known as which for the most part deals with which then means that you have to invoke the principle of right what does mean if you're dealing with as in is kosher it's non-cooser it's it's shotness it's not shot you know questions of of not by definition means that it doesn't require. So maybe for is believed but the truth is not believed. He's only believed if there is some level of circumstantial evidence for example and clearly the opinion of this right here that if there is some sort of that he's not going to be lying because this is what he does for a living and he's not going to lie and then have his business shut down. It's not worth it. So it's for that reason he would be there's an important as it relates to the specifically as it relates [snorts] to the place asks another says you're buy from why not so he said because it's not also so at the end of the day you have a and we're not it's for that reason it's okay as a different okay it's very nice you're not worried about fact that it might be because maybe it's from a non-cooser bird. Kosher birds are non-coosher birds, which is the majority, which is the minority. There's 24 non-cooser birds. Every other bird in the world is kosher. If that's the case, should tell me that it's kosher also. So, just like you can go bust a and you could assume it's not from anoa, why can't you go bust a and assume that it's from? What's the cash that it has to be from an so says that really this is in in the is that we never really spoke about that's the harder part of the that permeates this entire of andar because as much as it's true that there are 24 the keeps on saying that but at the same time we also know the gar wasn't sh it was Sunday stuff [snorts] but um right in the beginning of the where the garra said that the Tyra said that the Nesher that's the first of the 24 20 21 22 24 whatever but the first of the that are mentioned in the Tyra and the doesn't have any simra and from the it sounded like that any other that doesn't have any money is also going to be off limits so it's true there are 24 that a single but we also had that mention that that at At the end of the day there are there is a concept of when it comes to an and it sounds like the of the would be the I mean would be anything that's similar to the and just like the has no money and it's for that reason it's not okay. So to any other that has no money that means there might be a lot of in the world that don't have any of the money and as a result they're also going to be off limits. Now the truth is whether such an is rashi learned in that gar again we didn't go through this now so it's hard to go into it now post de facto but rashi at the time learned that when the gar said we're marba everything similar to the nasher it meant anything within the species of nasher it has to be something similar to nasher but at the end of the day there's 24 types of and and there's nothing else that's included I that seem to be marba other only within the world of nasher but if it's and it's not one of the other 23 you have absolutely nothing to worry about was they have to be everything. So says according to me it's a small on the bottom of this because it's true this 24 that's true the list the 24 but there's a very important caveat to this 24 and that is anything that's similar to which is a which is a game changer etc but either way so what was the basic was you're allowed to buy a from stating that there's a very important caveat and that is It's only if the guy points to the bird or the chicken that it came from and we know for sure that it's t it's only then that we trust says the what's the problem meaning if it doesn't point you have to be concerned maybe it came from an there's a way to know if this egg came from an or if it came from how thou lived why do we check the of the egg we've had the tra the simony the simony of the dog we're going to have in tomorrow's so says the simony of a kosher egg as well let's check the sim of egg I like the fish says the sim of a egg [snorts] I like of a fish we know of a fishnapper right fins and scales no fins and scales on your egg what it means is that The simon of an egg of an are similar to the simony of the eggs the row of fish regardless what is the sim of a tiny if it's round if one side of the egg is rounder the other one is a little sharper right it's that the shape of an egg to higher then it's going to be if both sides are round or if both sides come to a It's going to be so loosely translated as the white part of the egg. Loosely translated as the yolk of the egg. If the white is on the outside and the yolk is on the inside, that's the way it's supposed to be. If it's in the reverse if the white and the yellow are and you can take a look at the art scroll for a detailed discussion of what exactly that could mean. But regardless then we know that it comes not even from an animal. It must come from a but either way what do you see from here this of a kosher egg. So what's this whole issue? Why can't you just buy an egg from a non-Jew? He doesn't have to have the money. He's not going to risk his business. And you could just just LOOK AT THE EGG. You'll know from the line of give us a a you're supposed to check if an egg is kosher, it's non-coosher. So say the egg was cut already. But the says, "Okay, even if the egg was cut, meaning you don't have the shell, you don't have the shape of the egg. You could still check the and the shouldn't you be able to look and be able to identify it based on the white and the yolk of the eggs. said that's bit true for Picar. It's told you already had uh you know mash tags. So uh I see it's too late. You know you already made it. It's sitting on the next to the over one second. Then you're not let buy from him. You're not let an egg that's a trade for true unless it was already mashed. For that reason, being that you're allowed to sell a mashed egg to a non-Jew, it's for that reason. It's true for you're not allowed to buy a mashed egg from a guy. Why? Because we're afraid that he's going to sell the egg that was a mashed ta back to aid. So, if you're going to sell it to a guy now, you know the guy's in possession of these traers, maybe he's going to sell to you. Bottom line is you're not allowed to buy a brief because you can't tell me that that's what's going on over here. So, either way, so what's the cash? So just why can't you just look based on the sim that Kazal gave us and buy an egg from a guy the it's talking about well you mashed it already there's no sim because if you mashed it and there's no sim you're not allowed to buy it we're discussing someone who's allowed to buy it the is it from an is it from afa is it from is it from the say you have to say that as it relates to an egg are says bes These are not and as a result you're not allowed to rely on them. It's different than the of the and these these are as it relates to then not what then is the significance of it. The Gomar is going to explain but first the Gamar says I'll prove to you that they're not real saying we had this there eight birds that are suffic if they're Tommy or what's the suffic lived like Bates in the do why do you check the Bates if there's a unique character trait to the Bar then there's an easy way to know if this is must be it's not so it's not what's the purpose of this as we'll If you see an egg and both sides of the egg are round, both sides of the egg are narrow or if the yolk is on the outside, the white is on the inside, these are signs of a vad to then you know for sure you can't eat the egg. So the sim are helpful because if the play out and tell you that it's you know for sure you have to get rid of it. If one side is sharp. So as in one is as in sharp [snorts] or and the other side is it's round or it's the right way. Why is the outside the open and the inside? And then you want to buy it from a guy and the guy told you by the way it's star and then you can be the so the truth is the not fullfledged proof in the sense that you can rely on them exclusively but at the same time they are helpful in in the due diligence process when you're trying to determine whether this is kosher or whether this is non-cooser. Meaning if you see the ba and it has the sim tum you know you have to discard it. If you're buying from a guy and he tells you that it's okay and it has the simra. So then in the context of these is when you do trust the guy you don't trust the guy. So again we're going through this quickly but you in the event that we're discussing maybe being able to trust in we can definitely use this as a sniffle. It's something that can be used as a resource in us determining whether this is okay or whether this is not okay. In the event that the were mixed together, then you know it's from a like what why difference does it make if the beta is from a sher or it's from something else regardless you're not allowed to eat it. So so what why does it matter if it's from a shared What it means is is that there'd be a little crack in the egg and somebody would touch the the embryo of the sherets that's inside the egg, he'd become assuming it's one of the once they're dead. So the dead embryo so to speak would have the ability to be that's and would be that so it's how do you know from the egg that it's an egg from one of the maybe it's from which is a sher can eat it but it's not one of the so maybe it comes from how do you know that you should be you're That can't be what it meant because you would have no way to ascertain that the person is tame by touching the embryo inside this egg because how do you know that it came from one of the maybe it came from one of the other where by saying that it's from the sher is that if somebody ate it you would get malus somebody eats a sher it gets malus so that's where it's neg it's neg to give the person malus and for that it doesn't have to be one of the you get malus if you eat any sher are unique, right? You hear a lot about the but that's always in the context of tum as it relates to tum there's something unique about the every sher you can't eat an insect doesn't matter it's from the or it's the ninth the is you can't eat a so as it relates to you have to know if it's from the or not but as it relates to the not just the there was if that's case if we're discussing knowing that this is a by virtue of the fact that and to know it's a sher to give the person malus the truth is even if this was from an if the [snorts] if a person cracked the egg and ate the contents of that egg the is he would get malus regardless what does that mean the So the is that if there's a little chick inside the egg it was didn't even open up its eyes yet and and then it died if somebody would eat it the is he would get malus called now it's usually think of a sher this is not a sher this is a little chick that you know never hatched and never fully developed And as a result, but it was a kosher bird. What does this have to do with that is that even that chick you wouldn't be able to eat. But regardless, so what do you see from there? You see that a person is going to crack open the egg and he's going to eat that little embryo, that little life that's inside the egg. He's going to get malus. Whether the and the and we know it's a it's from a or if it's a regular egg it doesn't matter at the end of the day even if it's a regular kosher chick at the end of the day. So why do I need to know that it's a sher to get even if it's a regular it's still going to be the says no because that although it's true but it's only rice so there's no malus if someone eats a it's only but if someone eats a for that there is malus so it's if you saw the egg was the and you ate it you'd get malus for which would not be the case if it was merely in So if somebody cooks kosher eggs and non-cosher eggs together in the same pot with hot water. So this is 101. So do you say that the egg is and it's the non-coosher one into the kosher one or no? So this is an egg in it shell says the is because nothing is transferring from from point A to point B. Thus is says there's no time that's going over from one egg to the other egg. So if you cook a kosher food together with a non-coosher food together in the same pot with boiling water, that's a big problem. But in this case, being that these are eggs in a shell, you have nothing to worry about. Batesimo, those are adult eggs. If someone is not very squeamish, meaning he can handle it, he could eat it. Now, you see two things from here. Number one, that if you are squeamish, you can't eat it. And the reason is because there's a lot of called. So, that's not teaches me. You're not allowed to put yourself in a in a super uncomfortable situation. So, if you can really handle it, then yeah, but if you can't, then it's actually But additionally, you see a over here that if if you're a nepha, you're allowed to. Why would you think you're not allowed to eat it? It's an egg. The reason is because these eggs often have blood spots in them. So, an adult egg is is an is like a rotten egg. It's an egg that never fertilize, right? Just basics. A a chicken lays an egg every single day, right? Approximately every 24 to 27 hours, a chicken lays an egg. Now, sometimes that egg will hatch into another chicken and sometimes the egg will just be an egg that you can make scrambled eggs with. So, what determines it? If the chicken mated, the hen mated with the rooster prior to it laying its egg, then the egg is going to fertilize and an Ephraak is going to come out, another chicken. If it did not mate, then it's going to be a a good oldfashioned egg. So, benim muro are eggs that were laid after the hen mated with the rooster. And really, it should have hatched into a another chicken, but but something went wrong and it just for some reason never properly fertilized and as a result, it's a spoiled rotten egg. It's an adult egg and most people wouldn't eat it. But if you could handle it, you're allowed to eat it. There's no baku because you can handle it. And not just that, the fact that there may be a little bit of blood, which there likely will be, is also not an issue. And that's a kadesh. Now, what do you mean it's not an issue? You have to get rid of the blood. But as long as you get rid of the blood, you're allowed to eat there. The price continues and says similarly as it relates to a regular egg. Sometimes you crack an egg, you'll see a little bit of egg. Doesn't mean you have to get rid of the egg, says the you just have to get rid of the dam and you can eat the stating that it's not so simple. The only time this is true is if the blood was found on the on the kesh. That's the part of the egg where the sperm of the rooster touches the egg. Discussion of where exactly that is. There's a picture in some of the gar as well. Another important qualification of when if you have blood on an egg, all you need to do is discard the blood and you're allowed to eat the rest of the egg. And that is if it was found on the if it was found on the white of the egg. But if it penetrated the egg, it's in the yolk of the egg. The entire egg is going to be cuz once it's in the yellow, it's in it's already in the entire egg. There's no way to save the egg. that if you want to know the history of this, you should know that I heard a Tana tell it to just the opposite. He told Abaya that if the red the blood was on the yellow of the egg, then it's going to be okay. If it's only on the white of the egg that it's not going to be okay and told, "No, you made a mistake. It's really supposed to be in the reverse exhale.