Chulin 99

Today's daff is and we are two lines from the bottom of so we're moving along in the taru sugis of peridan some of the most famous some of the most lish doin chass the sugia of tam kicker we're literally smack in the middle of a so let's just set this up a little bit the said that what is the to the idea of it's learned out from the par of the says that when a nazer concluded his nazirus he had to bring three carbonas a katas and a schlum the schlamim that the nazer brought was unique in that it was cooked not just that but the zurya of the schlom that was cooked together with the rest of the schlom had to be given to the kayen. In fact, a zar was not allowed to eat from that. If that's the case, to the extent that you're cooking the together with the rest of the and the is to a nonen the rest of the is going to be given to the nonen. How then would the nonen the nuzer be allowed to eat the meat of this animal being that it was cooked together with Israel? It hasn't it a taru voice of iser and if that's the case there should be a problem the ter is it must be that even though you have this taru voice but as long as there's a she that in it of itself is going to be okay and the garra said this is the mccar to the concept that is what is the shish is that the only shar no we saw really it's one mandar says it's shishim which is of course the other mandar says that it's 100 and the said that really both of those learned their respective positions from the of the bash theor had a kasha the kasha was from aa the discusses this unique parisha of this and then the bryer says quote zetal this that you find by is unique to the it's not something that can universally be applied throughout It's a meaning what's becoming in is something that ordinarily would really become think ordinarily as an ineter is the same way it's a if that's the case how could we say that the mart is learned from this we have a mafura that says is that the bash is a very unique par. It's a bomi. You can't learn anything from the par of and the gumar in the end of yesterday's daf gave one terret in the beginning of today's daf the garumar is going to give additional two terutim which means if you do the very simple back of the envelope arithmetic by the time we're done with this part of the suga the very first portion of the daf 1 + 2 equals 3 we're going to have three mahal had to answer this kasha now just the khazer the one that we saw at the end of yesterday's daf a bay was the and said that when the Bryer said the Bryer didn't mean that the is that there's a concept of B it and be it but rather the BA was referring to another that's in the Bash and it's regarding that other that the BC is saying that's limited to Zasha and that's not something that can be universally apply. Now what is that other this is animeto is going according to that holds minimal if minim is lo so the whole concept of the zya being bottle should be dead on arrival because it's minimino they took the entire animal it was an aisle remember and it was all cooked together so the zya is the same min as everything else that's being cooked right now according to rahuda mimina you can have a thousand times is would not be bottl in the par of you see that it is that idea that you have even by is what the was referring to when it said whereas ordinarily over here it's going to be but as it relates to the as it relates to where it's that it's in the parish it works that's not that's something that is universally applied and that is something that would be true in as well. So it's true there is an element of that's unique to that you can sue to any other area of there's also an element of that you can to other areas of the fact that you see that that's something you cannot shel the fact that you see there's a concept of that is something that you can shel that was the first ter of Gamurra that was Abaya's terret the second terret if Abay is the first terret it almost goes without say you don't have to look in the Guruda in a you know is going to be Raa we're about to see that Raba is going to give a very similar terret to Abaya so similar that we're going to have to speak out a little bit of explain really what the is stating that I think it's kadai to introduce rava before we actually start the garra for one second and that is we're learning the sugi of of Tom Keker. Tomar is a full winter's man in yeshiva and some. So obviously it's not a sug that we can really learn in the a lot of time that we have but just one concept that's just to understand and really to have a better on the whole and that is when we talk about that was with if the is even if there is going to be whatever the b in that respective sugu voices is we are the could be into the one is we have a and it was so for example just to use a very dramatic example blood blood is the says you're not let blood if somebody does if blood would be with it was with fruit punch that looks a little bit like blood there's some sort of a taru voice over here between the iser and the hat over there you have of this is a classic example of a of there's another example of where you don't have the of the that's being together with the all you have is the t of the is that's being together with the is so for example you cooked a piece of non-coosher meat together with kosher food you then after you cooked the meat removed the meat out of the pot so that there's of meat in the voice. You have what referred to as that too is a problem and there too there's a that unless you have a certain ratio of to is the is going to be also but there's enough between the two cases where the dam was the is when you cook together with and you remove the doer all I have is the t of the iser when I have the mamosh I have the of the when I have the it's by definition I don't have the of the it's the latter case that we usually mean when we in a nuance way discuss so again both cases are cases where we're trying to is there time of the is in the or is there not time of the is in the hence but in one case all I have is the time in the other case I have what's the difference is member is a member throughout shas that isol more than that is these are all shas where all I have is the time where I don't have the I don't have the where I have the there would be different by the way this is all the way all these over here in parag again this is a huge but I think just for simple of the next that we're about to learn to internalize this point. Then when we talk about is it if I have the of the there well then it's if I remove the of the but there was a little bit of plasm that came out that's what's known as it's the latter that the now is going to be referring to when it talks about the concept of but either way said that you want to know what the terret is we learn from we have a price of that says as it relates to which would seem to imply you can learn from which one is it could I learn or can I not learn said that when we said you can't learn you know what it was referring to it was referring to it was referring to why the because when it comes to when it comes to yet you find that you don't say this is despite the fact that it's Tom's also still you're not saying Tom and that's what the price meant when it said but as it relates to that is something that you can learn from so what does this mean long rash here on the bottom of the it's a couple things number one is that as it relates to where I don't have the all I have is the even though the throughout brings for it those All it is is what is the bring the in one second. It's the end of this line. But by it's ina by it's only in the way the learn is also being the who holds that is if and is by well that would mean that the idea that this bish Shayla could be bottle should be dead on arrival. The reason is because even though I only cooked the Zoya together with the rest of the aisle, I'm removing the Zoya. I'm giving it to the Cen. So that all I have from the Zoya is the Tam. But if I'm dead based on that, there shouldn't be any eight. So you can have this shouldn't be a problem that even though this we're treating like and over here we're going to say there's no Tom if there's no Tomo so over here we can make a right for sure on the disso level and what is the going to be it's going to be but as it relates to shishim that is something that we don't say that's something if you would want to apply elsewhere you would be able to do. So Ro is saying very similar to what Ro is saying is that the Bryce is going based on that the whole concept of a should be dead on arrival. The fact that we even entertaining a that's secondh and that's that. But as it relates to once we're agreeable to look at over here what the should be the fact that it's shisha that's something that we're comfortable applying elsewhere. Now if are both being that it's going so why is it two separate roots? Aren't they essentially saying the same thing? What did Abaya say? Abaya said the price is going here and that's a head there that you only have here. Don't think elsewhere elsewhere. Ra is essentially saying the same thing. He's just making it a little more complicated. Ra is saying that this is a case of Tom ordinarily by Tom and we're going that holds when it comes to this over here we're going to treat it like it's not going to be an issue and saying the same exact thing and are both saying that we're going based on that the whole concept of should be dead on arrival but that's what the price means when it says it's unique here it's not something we're going to be able But if you look at what is saying carefully, what is saying carefully, you'll realize what is that according to there's a that you don't say according to there's a that you don't say is taking the you see much further than is taking it. Ab is saying that you don't say again this all in the world you don't say is saying I'm don't think you see from here that you don't say at all what I think is that you don't say so to say that being that I have a Tom and usually so therefore should be dead on arrival kamash one you don't say tom But that of course you would say according to there's no what would be the very very simple what would be if would completely disintegrate and dissolve into the according to as long as you have you're going to be good to go you don't say according to we never said You don't say we SAID YOU DON'T SAY. SO IF I remove the and all I have is the tom. So then already there's no time you're going to have a but let's say the itself would be it would dissolve into the rest of the then already I have a a regular and in that situation you would have the problem of but the bottom line is very similar to with that huge distinction and that is according to when we say listen what we mean is that even Ordinarily, you don't say to be that. But when it comes to yet which says that you don't say maybe learn from that you never say Tom, right? Why are you assuming that this is an exception to the rule? Maybe this is the rule. Why don't you learn from it to that you don't say even by the says you can't say that because the is 101 that anything that touches the carbon gets a for example is it could only be it could only be in so if you have some other bos that would touch the it would take on the of the karmakas what do you see from Here you see that if a piece of meat touches the katas, all it has is the katas, right? The kas didn't dissolve into the piece of meat. It was nice and Tom to it and you seem says you can't learn from you don't say because I know from they do says right that's all part of that that we learn from that anything that touches the gets the that's why you can't learn from So in other words, you have a parish in you seek. You have a parach where is that how do you know is the rule and is the exception to the rule. Maybe is the rule and is the exception to the rule. So maybe is different. So theor says I'll tell you why. because it makes sense not to be able to learn from because right this is an identical uh repeat of the yesterday's being that the whole is so you can't learn from what's said in the beginning of the and yesterday's it's because even though there is a that takes place by but we know that is and by they used to cook together with everything else so being that You're violating there's a in this par you can't learn from there's no in the paras there's a par that's why we assume that is the exception but says if you tell me and therefore you can't learn from there you don't say so why able to learn from there so says when you say you can't learn from a pares means you can't learn a from such a parach you see a so therefore I can't learn from here now another Tom but just because I see a doesn't mean I can't learn and the fact that there's a bit of is actually not a says it's a because without you would assume you would assume that all is from the fact that that's not a that even forget that's a only of disallows a but it doesn't disallow either way that is the second when we say we don't mean what are we referring to referring to which it's not that is unique is the third he said you want to know what the big is that the B was referring to when it said that oh in this that you can't learn anywhere else. It's it was referring to it's referring to the area where was severed from the rest of the aisle the because we know that that ordinarily the isser over here it's so if the concept of the sounds a little familiar it's because we learned about this not so long ago. So if you remember that somebody so the is the mother and it's m the as well stating that if one of the hands one of the of the was protruding outside the of the mother at the time of the that hand would be not only would that hand be assur but when you chop the hand off even the the place where the hand that a meets the rest of the go that would also be a that you usually find in Dutch where you have one a of an animal that's the rest of the animal is the place where you made the incision you go that's also going to be by the is and ra that's what that price was referring to that ordinarily the over here it's going to be bottom line from we learn what's we have a says you can't learn anything from we have three roots in what that price is referring to between the three is it's not referring to everything that you see in and it's not referring to the it's referring to some other that you see over there what was the other according to it's going and the cool is that you see according to the is that you see from the Tom Kaba even though I caught him usually Tomk is according to Ravino the is that the kak is going to be motor either way. This concludes the first part of today's daf. Second part of today's daf is going to focus on a Mishna in the susa and it's really more than one Mishna. The Mishna are in peric bay. It starts Mishna Daled and goes through Mishna's v and z. And I think that just as an introduction to this next part of the daf, it's kadai to go through these innovating not the easiest inn. Now just to set up why we're about to talk about it's because we had regarding the is it from the like we've been talking about in the first part of the but there's a a shear of the whether the she is shishim the she is male now is going to ask a mandar if you remember it was in the name of ai who held that the she is so this mission over here in is talking about where there's some sort of between iset the isuma the is now truma is only for someone that's not already such as a non kite but you have a is of is is between and is that the sheer of is so if you have 101 times the truma then it's going to be if you don't have 101 times not so ordinarily we right that's the we like but when it comes to truma it's it's a different share over there the share is 101 and that's what's going on over here in these starting from So if somebody would take a voice of together with we're going to focus on truma. So somebody makes a taras of and truma if the truma is it leavenvens it causes the to rise or it's metab it spices it or it's just mixed together with it is it's going to be I'm skipping to with regards to what did say that so it seems said that when it comes to a of where the trum is if it's so the are the same you go if it's two different meaning so then it's going to be sometimes and sometimes it's going to be right sourdough of that's and it fell into dough of so this is clearly is and the and there's enough of this to be to cause the issa to let if it has the ability to impose itself on the issa whether you have 101 of or you don't have 101 either way it's going to be let's say you don't have 101 it's going to be then whether it has the ability to be muhammed or doesn't have the ability to be muhammed it's going to be what the Mishna is essentially saying is is that even though we know there's a that when it comes to of men the that's only true if the tr itself is not being or it's not being or it's not being it's not doing its thing in this right now then if however it's doing its thing. I don't care if you have 101. I don't care how much you have. Is it's going to be awesome. So where is of 101 where it's neg is let's say it's not doing its thing. It's not being it's not being you can't taste it. Still there's you have to have 101. And that's what we mean when we say you always go. If it's quote unquote you're going to be and if there's less than 101 of it, you're always going to be mur. So check off any one of these two boxes. Is it nice and tan? If the answer is yes also if it's not but it's less than 101 to one ratio then it's also going to be problem when we say when it comes to sometimes it's sometimes it's what's the case and are two different if it has ability to be awesome Whether there's 101 or not 101, as long as it it's nice and time, it's going to be awesome. Let's say it doesn't have the be nice and then it's going to be if it's nice and it's always going to be I don't care what the ratio is. If it's not nice and Tom, it's always going to be I don't care what the ratio is. This is a cool because over here it's all cully in one thing. It's not two boxes, it's one box. Is it nice and Tom or is it not nice and Tom? the ratio itself that I don't care about which let's focus on the ka because that's where the kilik is what emerges is a tremendous ka and that is in the event that it's not even if you have less than 101 is going to be so by if it's not and it's less than 101 it's still going to be because there's one of two ways for the tar is to beer either by it being in which case even if it's more than 101 or by it it being less than 101 even if it's not but either one of those are for it to be because this is where is if it's less than 101 and it's not it's still going to be when it comes to the only thing I care about is if it's so if you have a thousand but it's going to be that's the bad news but here's the good news if it's not even if it's less than 101 it's going to be mus again where's the between is where it's less than 101 but it's not still going to be because there's two you have to have in that situation it's going to be either way this Mishna apparently has something to do with that the regular forget about the regular is 100 and Ravimi is the one that's going to now present the Mishna and explain by the way the reason it was kadai to see this mission inside first of all it's always kadai to precap what's coming but also because as we're about to see the gar is going to bring this Mishna but first the safer then the so you see the Mishna in an orderly fashion it just again we say this a lot the expects us to know the expects us to know the expects us to know right that's why sometimes will bring up and sayu and the punch line is from the you left out the part of the no left out nothing unfortunately we left out from our learning knowing these him. But either way, he sat down and he sat over this and that is that thear is that true? You're telling me the she ordinarily is 100 time right? Sometimes you go, sometimes it's when you go and then the safer said what's the case if grease and we'll cook together with then it's always going to be if it's the And it's going to be says right up until now we knew all this. This was the precap is making a big is saying that even though the says if it's not is that it's going to be mut but for sure there has to be some ratio of bet right you would need at the very least the regular sheer bal meaning understands that what the mish is trying to say is that truma has a unique sheer bal 101 learn from what the Bishna is saying is that when it comes to there's a cool there's a and the cool is that if it's physically not in time right now so then I don't need the 101 say but if there's a regular sh a universal share nothing to do with if there's a literally pun intended and we're dealing with if there's a regular sh then for sure you would have to have that share right there's no question in the world so what is essentially the mission is saying, "Oh, you don't need that fancy shear of 101." I mean, less than that she is is going to be okay. Okay. So, what's less than 101? It's probably 60. Meaning, if the regular share is, let's speak this out, even though we're sort of giving it away, 100. So, what you're telling me you don't need 101, but you need 100? It's like the same she must be 60. A It's like a Mishna. You don't need 101 but 60. Yeah. And for the gar I hear be a little more gishmak the delta between what you thought you needed and what you do need would have been much wider a bigger spread but at the same time what we're saying is that we ask ordinarily what's the sheer 101 when it comes to over here you're not going to need the shear of 101 what she will you need all you will need is a shear of 100 because ordinarily the shear according to is 100 and why Truma the shear is 101. That's a that you need one more in order to be you don't need it. By the way, you're going to tell me is there such a difference between 100 and 101? That's we know you can't compare 100 to 101. And forget that isn't the whole point has this cool. You don't need 101. 100 of itself would be enough. But says the ratio. Let's learn the ratio. What did the ratio say? The ratio said that mayo have that when it comes to as we'll see this year is 100 and if that's the case could it be that safer that the safest says the meaning and being that that's may be that the safer what does this mean we learned in the ratio This is the part of it that we need. If there was not enough of 101, then it's going to be what was the will you go by? What's the case, right? Where's the between the cases where it's not but you have less than uh 101 right that's uh where the is when it comes to it's going to be when it comes to it's going to be because there's two ways for the to be either it's or you have less than the now if the is1 again the gumar is assuming 101 and 100 are the same number which by the way the first time the assumed that I could here the second time I mean we already mentioned but the is going back and the is saying that what is essentially the of the is where it's you have to have 101 what's the of where it's you don't have to have 101 according to what do you have to have you have to have 100 so the of is you need 101 The cool of is that you only need 100. That sounds like the same thing to me. So says the if you're going to tell me that the regular is so what's the you don't need 101, you need 60. What's the need? That's very different. You need 101. You need 60. That's the whole point of the second. But if you're going to tell me here you need 101 what? You need 100. It's the same thing to me. You almost have to say that because the whole point of being is that here you go. Here you go. And what's the 1% the only is one says yes or no. Yeah. That's the diff. The whole difference is that one. It's one every number, every inch, every centimeter counts. And that is the when it comes to if it's not you still need 101. And when it comes to meaning where it's not all you would need is 100 says the gumar as a procript to this discussion it comes out from here that you know just from reading the Mishna what emerges is that it's possible to have a taru where you're going to have 101 times something else and still the is going to be able to be nois right for sure you see that in Mishna you see that throughout the Mishna right because the Mishna is talking about where you don't have 101 but it's not or you have 101 and it is nice and time and the Gmorra is about to ask on that is it possible is it possible to have a taris of two things where you have 101 times one can the other and that other the the minority is still going to be nice and time now it's an interesting uh discussion I hear sounds like a good place to have it right but the just from the flow of the garra seems to be asking what it's about to ask from what we just learned and just to speak out where you see that It seems that Gumar was entertaining a possibility that when we talk about 101 in the context of Truma, maybe it's really 100, right? We made a big deal about this as we went through the Gumar 101 100 it's uh it's one and the same. Right? The MS is if you go through the the sug when we say trum 101 it doesn't mean you need 101 times KGA the one. What it means is you need 100 times the one. And the number 101 is because when you the together with the what you're gonna end up with is is 101. But it's clearly from the mas of the that's not the case because according to is always 100 times and is more than that. So what's that number? It's a real 101. And again is making this huge deal between the of 100 and 101 says that when the Mishna was saying that I could have the sh and still would be nice and time if that was 100 I could have lived with it but if the shar is 101 I actually can't live with it says it's impossible it's impossible that the should be able to be even if there's 101 times conitive And the said that um when this question was asked to that's who the question was asked to question again and says over that the is 100 asks from the what emerges from the is that it's 101 it's not 100i that um so you're telling me that something could be nice at 101 100 I can live with but it could be nice even into 101 a malay so abaya because stumped say you know let me defend you maybe certain yeasts are very sour right maybe that's why it's called sour d but certain yeasts are very sour so being that they're very sour something that's that is that has heavy in it so maybe over there it is so powerful it's so potent it has the ability to be nice and even when you have a share of 101 You're right. You just reminded me something that when it comes to all these not allus are the same. I'll give you an example. Take that's fish brine of a non-co is close to 200. You see that has the ability to be nice and even if you have what's the non-cos fish is says now there is a is now if you do the math you do the conversion process of it's to 200 a little less than 200 so you see clearly that it needs close to 200 so you see some things have the ability to be nice and time Even if you have a ridiculous amount regarding the of Tommy Frank parathetically did raud just say this said that if you take sear of a dog to and you mix it together with kosher fish is there's a bit at alludas is not really part and parcel of the fish. It's the it's the sweat. It's it's not something that's the punch line that it's not. Therefore, it's not included in regular of either way. Going back to the Mishna. So, the Mishna discussed, right? Why are we talking about the sugu? It's because the Mishna talked about the gdasha that was cooked together with the yak, right? The gdash is in the thigh. So, someone took the thigh, he cooked it together with the g. So what does say if it has ability to be it's going to be awesome? How are we right? What's the formula to figure out if it's or not? The mission gave us one bale. The way we do it is we figure out meaning we make believe that the gid was baser and we make believe that the yerk was lest turnips if it would be meaning if you took this amount of baser and that amount of turnips and it be then we assume this was and if not we assume it was not going to clarify this a little bit better. He said we don't just mean the turnip we mean the top of the turnip. Rashi says that the yerk of the lees is sweeter than the rest of the lefes. And if that's the case, being that it's sweeter, so it would require more buser in order for it to overwhelm it and in order for it to be able to be nice and time. And as a result, you have to not the boss of being nice and into the entire lefice but the sweeter part of the lef says the one thing you see clearly in our Mishna is that if you cook the together with the you're going to have yourself a little bit of a problem, right? That's why you have to make sure you have the right said that gidden are not to get you can't be nice and so who cares that you cooked it together. Just remove the g and you don't have to worry about cuz it's hold and was sitting on the at the right he was at the entrance way he was at the door of whereino lift kic when this person left told the person my he said I'm curious I saw you holding a tel and obviously want to know if is it is it kosher is it not kosher what did he tell you he said he told me that it's mut now it seems that this tapel was this person was this and this was his real life story so he comes out and he tells that told me it's no maybe you didn't understand what do you mean it's enough go back and tell him exactly what you So when he went back in, who's this person who's driving me crazy, go tell this person who's sitting at the door that do not have the ability to be and that so it's for that reason even though I know it's and I hold another when people would come to and they would ask him such a sh with the whole was cooked together which get so he would say I don't want to ask in the sh I'd rather you go to my bas is the one that holds but I myself don't hold that way so this is so someone's coming to he's asking what was the shil the was in together with the raami holds it it's but he knows there are those that hold that because so am could have said but he knew that there are people that are and he was of those that were say so he would say go to I think you should ask him the sh cuz he'll give you one he'll give you a good I can't ask in that way because I I don't have that I hold but he has a and he's a go at him right so imagine you ask who's a and being he says you who's a big maker. That's exactly what did and so you want to know what is exhale. So the sugis over here of that we're going through way way way too even if we did a few raid bites it would be too fast. So uh we're going through this way too quickly. So I just thought that as it relates to raid just to lighten up the dolphin a little bit to speak out a uh nifla from the bish of hi margles and this is from hiser now why we going to speak out now from that safer it's like speak out for my goals. I don't think we need an excuse stating that few days ago we had I think it was on Vog the Gmorra mentioned a Yid by the name of Barbuli Barpuli was removing the Gdan and he was doing it in the presence of the great amra and gave him a little muster and he got so scared that he dropped his knife but there was a man who name was Baruli and in Marola says take a look at what I wrote in my safe for the shame And on page al I give a shout out to and I say something about his name. So taking the lead of we're going to go through a little bit the beginning of the specifically chapter one and that's called pseudonyms in the tal. What's a pseudonym? A pseudonym is like a nickname, a pen name, uh not real name that sometimes was used. And Margolus has a how you find that there were different tan and that are mentioned in shas who were known not by their real name but rather by some sort of pseudonym. Truth is this is something that over the years we've talked about it's scattered in in some of the rabbits and really the to this is from and this is the way starts his just going to read the first paragraph says I found that there are many whose name is mentioned very infrequently in maybe this uh had one that is attributed to him maybe it's not even it's yet he was known in my opinion by a name that's associated with that he saidd this is very famous. He says there's a his name was he's mentioned in the mission over there says that if somebody's walking in the street and he saw he saw three coins that were stacked one on top of the other. So you can't keep them at bay even though you know is you're allowed to keep that's from the but if you saw them stacked then is not saidd the only time this is true is if they were stacked like a migdal they were stacked like a tower says that his name wasdah what kind of name is migdalah never heard so he says let's be honest it's probably because of thisdah said aboved and that's probably why he was known BY THAT NAME IT'S A PSEUDONYM IT'S NOT his real name it wasn't at the br where they said That's probably not what it was, but rather it was that he said and he became known based on this. He said who name was and he said it's because he's the one that said smelled he had that was coming from him. He wasn't. So too, if you have someone who's mis somebody that smells, he would not be allowed to lead the benching is the one that said regarding he was known as because he's the author of this. He said I found another he's mentioned in you know what he says in he turns to and he asks what would be if somebody says and then another person would say me too now specifically the case was where he said and the other person went and he said me too what's did he mean to be nazirus as well when that person has a child or maybe when I have a child. Maybe what he meant to say was you're so excited. You want to have this child so badly. You're even making I'm telling when you have this child. I'm going to love this child like it's my own. I'm gonna take care of this child. Beni is mentioned one place in it was where someone asks uh where somebody said and the other person said DOES HE MEAN HE WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED that's why he was known as says it's a to bring us at a time with said that it says in I never heard of and the one thing he ever said in his life was the only thing that's mentioned over here in I should say is so is it a coincidence that he became known as not the regular probably because it is that he said either way he con concludes and he says I have many more such examples There's no one ever who had this pun intended because it comes from was mentioned in the makam that I'm the one that brought this in to the world that sometimes you have this connection between a and that he said in he's known by that name not because that was his real name but that's his pseudonym so to speak that's his alias and he gets known as The he saidd was mentioned who's the one that said does he mean who's mentioned the first of inill fews first of all said there was no one before him that ever had this he said that if you take a look at one of the commentaries on the that was written by Ramos Narvi lived in the 14th century he was a super commentary on the and this is a paras he makes this observation and he's mafaling it a little bit that's 500 years before he says not just that the take a look under says the he was called because he said one regarding the l and and that's why he's known as and he says by the way I found it in the as well this is 100 years or so before regarding the why was it because he said regarding one of the that are mentioned in the but the bottom line is that I'm the first one that says it's not I found it by in his I found it in the and I found it already in the again not but they all were already this is not the really he continues and he says that really after I've seen other people work with this as well and says I have to be honest with you I'm not masking to some of the things I said I saw he quotes from a s called this is a a pish that was written on the adus it was printed one time in vilma in the year trees, right? It's fun when you have a photographic memory. But the bottom line is it was printed one time in TR in the in the town of VNA and he said that Yid went and he said he was mammish. He was mafing this Indian in an incredible way. He went so far as to say that he believes Rabim Ben Lish. That's a funny name Lish. What kind of name is Lish? Said I think Rabim Ben Lish gets known as Rabim Ben Lish. Not because his father's name was Lish. I don't think that's the reason I think the reason he's known as is because of the is and over there is talking about when love made his business deal with we went through that business deal if you remember went through it and they had a deal I'm going to get this and you're going to get that and what exactly the deal was going to get the older ones was going to get theas the lishes. He was going to get the later ones. So this said that to me this whole name luckish I always found to be interesting and I think that the reason he was called luckish is HE'S A BENISH BASED ON THIS MEMBER that he said in now it's good to this but to say he was known by that this was his that he said he went a little bit further he said we're familiar with he said I think was called because his father's name was Mam I never heard a name maml who's maml mamal right who's maml he said I think the reason it's called mam is based on a is discussing if somebody sells a bab what's included what's not included and one of thinks that's included is the maml and the says my who answered the question said I'll tell you what a mam is so this said that I think the reason is called mam is based on this so a rumor my goal. This is one we we have to slow down a little bit. He said he found one mera that one Ammyra who's mentioned 4,000 times in J and has something to do with you can't the whole thesis is is that is not a frequently mentioned and based on that it's maybe to sayd is called based on the fact that he said this is are compelling is called based on this one of of this memory that he said Lisha he said way too hard for me to understand that he said besides what about Rab Yehuda Benish who's mentioned in Shabasim and Nuniml right forgot about him he's also called Ben Lish where you have a member that he want her says there's something being you could be a Ben luckish and that's why he was called Ben Luckish now Margar is stating that I'm going to be might have been mix to this yet cuz I agree the name Lish I don't think is a real name again we're going to take Reub Margaros's word for it. That's usually our policy when it comes to this, right? So, you know, the expression is you pick on someone your own size. So, I'm going to take Rab Maros's word, but the bottom line is says I'll be mix. To me, the name Lish is a little bit of a funny name, but I don't think he's called Lockish because of that. First of all, it can't be that's one out of thousand hundreds thousands of memories of Rashkish. And he says besides, but what about Rabud Lish? He said, well, I'll tell you what I think. I think there was a city that was known as Lish. And he was known as Ben Lish not because his father's name was Lish but and he says by the way that I found Margalus in this in a safe how's this for who brings from Berlin the great Berlin right the most often quoted that Berlin was bothered he said how did Malikish become rakish you ever think about that how How did he become rakish mean became rakish zak is known as ra zak what does that mean ra it's like it's short it's abbreviated for right why is he called rakish says rag I don't think it's raik to say and this I actually believe that he says that there was a city called lish and esg of lish and that's why he was known as lish and he said don't make from this because I saw those brings dedicated his whole life to this heined very much and he did not know why was known as Rakish he wasn't simply happy there is like the there is no person Lish but he was from the city of Lish and he was also the head of Lish by the way bin Lish also came from Lish but he wasn't rakish because he was never the muras but the bottom line is Lish comes from Lish and he's known as raish because he's the he says as it relates to maml I'll be honest with you I hear the horror as well I don't think that's a name I don't think maml is a name the problem is to say that is known as mam because of what he said in regarding someone that tells it's impossible right it's just not it doesn't even get on the first base in it's not possible, right? can't even be besides we found. So there's three more mammals that never said a word about the mamlik not I'll shame that father was maml because I agree I I never heard of a name mam I'll al shame and by the way you're not sure if there's a place called that talks about the base I'll tell you even more than that there's a said that's probably what it was it was the city that's known And that's who all these mamles are. But the bottom line is to say this about and to say this about this is already uh this is already pushing it. I think this is too says I think evendah which is ground zero. This is the one everyone knows that ground zero form even that I think is I think it's and the reason is because is mentioned in other places in as well he's mentioned and in other places as well you can tell me where's migdalah This is before right by the way there was another whose name wasdah he didn't say anything about and by the way he's mentioned and embraces per why is he known as migdalah the ter is lish and giving and giving I agree with the thesis says I think it's fantastic and it's not goes back already to in his classic commentary on the but at the same time but at the same time he says I think which is the starting point for all of this I don't even think that's right and certainly that's way way way way beyond the scope says I'm going to give you my own list. Let me give you my list who I think is mentioned in your midashim who I think these are not real names but these are the synonyms his by the way is he says you know so you need a license to say this sometimes right even wrote a safe which we talk about all the he has a 50page before he wrote it because you can even write something like this so you need a license if you're ever going to do something like this and his license is talks about the great and the says boon. Yeah, his name was boon. So I was called because of the that happened with the with the son and the deal and the bad remember that incredible incredible but the bottom line is is that his name wasn't his name was so why they call and he says it's interesting by the way ever make this observation all the had nicknames all the I don't know if this is because they have aliases, but the bottom line is all these super rich guys. No, none of them were known by their regular name. They all had pseudonyms. But either way, but you want a license to say name is boon we he's known as because of something that happened to him. So there could be a musk that somebody would be known by a name because of something because of something that not happened to him because of something that he said. So here's a a very abre the list is close to 40 names. This is classic some of them are not I'll just mention a few he does it in alphabetical order. This is number three. Remember I is mentioned in one place in one a person can make it tonight regarding he's mentioned right. So a person let's say heard that is going to be coming to he's not sure and he wants to make to be able to go here this year. Problem is he doesn't know which way to make. So with the braer he could do it says the even though it says you could do such a thing it's wrong you can't make one of these this is the only that I said in Right. He said you have to figure out you have to figure out where the is. So that's why right why is he calling him an alm because we don't know his real name. So he's the whose name we don't know. HE GETS KNOWN AS WHAT? HE GETS KNOWN as it's because he's the one that said you HAVE TO KNOW. YOU HAVE to know if he's coming to the mid or coming to the mar. Here's another one. Our favorite of all time, right? So why was Ila known as? He says I don't know if was his real name. I'm says when came back to this medish, right? So he saw became the rashiva and Ilfa said that had I stayed in yeshiva I'm telling you I would have been the rasha as a matter well that they told him and so he said really you're telling me that I'm less than ask me any kasha ask me anything show me a if I can't be pion from a mishna you'll see what's going to happen so he went he suspended himself from the mast of a ship and he said that if I can't figure one old person took him a little too literally he says you know what's the about this and that he said an in Aramaic is a ship he says I think he became known as ilah because of this incredible story it's a real story where he makes this grand spectacle he says that's how he became known as because of that but that's not really what his name was he says the more they discuss if somebody asks an advice and he gives him the right advice he gives him the wrong advice. So, uh there's a whole sugara tells a story that somebody went to Danka and Iser. These were two money changers. One was Danka, the other one was Iser. And they asked him something and he gave them the wrong advice and the was that they were off the hook. He says interesting that money changers would be known as Danka and Iser, right? What a what's a danka in Aramaic? Money. What's an isser? It's money. He said, I'm assuming they were called danka is because this was their gashef. They were money changers. He says, "By the way, if that's the case, that mentions one time in." And you know what the says? He had 12,000 and he had it by you have a guy whose name is is and this is 12,000 the is his first name was cash right this is his name. So the bottom of literally cash by the way this is what he's and as a result he became known as this is how he's known for all for all generations. You ever hear this name two places in he's also mentioned in funny name says a rumor goes pure to me why he's called this is this is one nobody would ever get. He says push it to me. He said because if you look at that he said he's talking about of walls right so if you have two I can't make my wall too close to your wall it's discussing is related to walls the says in Ezra this is pervas so this is in the first year of the reign of the king kish cyus the great kish mala sum to aim so kish the king he issues a decree an edict basil I want the bd to be built. The the city where the is and carbon is going to be brought the mizen and the walls are going to be founded. It should be 60 tall. XL I want the walls to be made up of rows rows of stone three stones on each row. The word means wall and the world word means wall. These are very Aramaic words over here invo means wall and means wall. Ashad who said two is one of them is regarding you ever heard a name like Ashad said it's posit because he said regarding walls and knew these Ezra that talk about and they knew that is a wall and is a wall and that's how he became known as that name Benbach this is another famous one right why was Bagbach called Benbag said Bagbach and Benhei were both the same person righthe are both the same person and they're both Ben Grim and what what Shikh is because B giml is five and he is also five and we know that Aram got the he and S got the hey and being that Aram and S both got the H. So that's why they become known as Benbagbag and Behei. Incidentally Rab Margola says that he always thought that I don't know if Ben Bagbag was really a a G but it could be Ben Bagbag was called Benbagbag because he's the son of a G. In fact, bag is Ben Garus. Says it could be his father was a G and his mother was a guaras and he's known as Ben Bagbag. Bag means Bengurus. He says if that's the case, it would open up a little bit of our mind because in Shabas Gim there's a Tan who's known as Yehuda Bengrim is Yehuda Bengrim. He said I also found in Yuma someone whose name is Yehuda Bengor. How's that for her name? Yehuda Ben Gregor. He said I think Yehuda Bengor is the same name. Ben Garam is like Ben Bagbback. His father's a Gar, his mother's a Gar. Hence, he's Ben Garam. And Ben Groas is the same thing. It's Ben Viguas. Hence, you end up with a name like like Benus. Here's another one. There's someone that's mentioned one time in his name is Ben Shalus. That's his name. Ben Shalus. He's mentioned over there says so we know is allowed to do up until what point is allowed to do so until that's the point that she's allowed to do it over there says when I went to Rabaka said I don't agree with this and I never heard of Benalus so my goals Rabaka already was ever heard named Ben Shalus? He says, "I don't think his name was really Ben Shalus. I don't think his name was Ben Shalus." He said, "Take a look at the it says and the Rambam says in what does it mean when it develops here?" the word could mean here and that's why he was called benchus because there's one from him and is a cyrus harbe and that's where I never heard of bench cuz that wasn't his real name this was a pseudonym and he's called this name because this is the one this is the one that he said this goes on and on and on he talks about who was a that we say he was he once talked very shares And he became right. He he was physically he was physically harmed. Why was he called Benisi? He says maybe because the medum says that one of the wasi Benusi and Benusi says that was clapp when he he was at Milo something bad went up to Shamay. So Beni who did what Gadi Benusi did and that it was clappy Milo. So it's for that reason he too became known as that. One last one he says you know the great is known sometimes as what he says if you take a look at Rashi in Sanf Rash is why he was known as he brings two shot him one shot is he says because his father was a a blacksmith and a blacksmith that's why some he's known as barafa then he says another shot is because he was very handsome and nafka has something to do with being handsome so it says ru margles being that rashi said two shot him so it's clear rashi didn't have So if you could say two I could already say a third and he says maybe because discussing that we know ordinarily on his one of the exceptions is he said it's talking about a certain type of where it was done by a blacksmith he said I had to be the real in when Is it it's Margolus? I know this is going to undermine a little bit what I said earlier. That's someone who we have hundreds or if not thousands of mentioned in there's no way there's one member that he said that's going to be a a guiloy and why he was called by why he was called. That's why we knocked out in the beginning of this rabbi. He said, "But this line, I've never seen a line like this in my life." in the time was so happy with the that he had to be that he said who knows if that's not why sometime not always it's usually just the great that maybe sometimes he would become known he would become known as again if Rashi I wouldn't say anything but Rashi himself was already unsure already Rashi saying maybe already you can Go ahead and you could say a third. But the bottom line is what began with a thesis for he says with regards to and we mentioned that he said it say others said it regarding which says I can't even fathom but went through he went through a list of close to 40 and oh by the way we left that we left out the main one right we said there was bari in so why is baruli called barpuli because you know what it means to do a mice appeal it means to be a maner says that's why he was called barpuli why else would he been known as barpuli because this was his f this is what he used to do for a living and it's for that reason that this is what uh he was known by and that's why he was known as ra puli but the bottom line is he says if you look around I found close to 40 different times where it's to me that the pseudonym that he got was based on this is chapter one in the chapter two he goes in a little bit of a different angle he says I found another thing and this he says I found countless times he says literally countless countless times and that is you find sometimes with would say that had something to do with their name he They're not called by the name because of what they said, but because goes the other way around. It's a chicken and an egg. It's because of their name. They had a and he goes through just giving examples one after another. He starts from he does a he was super methodical, right? Just to mention a few. It's not a coincidence. You ever see him again? He said, uh, take a look at said that's not that's not a right. That's not a coincidence. He says, he just said something about what's your name. Oh, my name is Shman. That's my name. I don't think it's a coincidence. He said he said he said it in three places in Shabas coming up. He said you know it's the only three places in that you find the all three times I don't think it's aesh. How about what about we've mentioned this in the past? He said by the way you know how many times talks about the region Yehuda. So why is not talking about the gal? Why is he talking about Yehuda? He said his name was Yehud. talking about. This is this is you get the thing, right? This just goes on and on and on. The sheer brilliance of of putting together a piece like this is just not nea. It's just not just reminds you of how the bra the kite of of the there's so many that you can open where you see the is something that was in such an incredible way but either way why we talk about this in like I said excuse because bari was mentioned invar has him in his list of top 40 pseudonyms In chass he was known as Barbuli because he was a manacer.