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Today's and we are in the beginning of the fifth about 10 lines from the bottom of so the fifth is very much a continuation of the we had this twow weekish digression of agadada and sugi's related to stam and sits. But already at the end of the previous paric, we return to our regular program. The fifth paric is very much a continuation of that stating that as we're going to see there's going to be a digression in today's daf as well. As a matter of fact, most of is actually either way. So the new perk begins with a new Mishna which is actually and the very first of this perk deals with a very had to be prepared as with the exception of the of the so of the 30 of them were matzah 10 of them were The 10 that were obviously and that was brought on because they were brought as a general rule had to be there's two exceptions. Number one of the number two points out that we know was a theory calls it a the however was that a was part of the carbon which was a from the Mishna it's that it was a because if it's not a it's not an exception to the rule of if the Mishna said so then you would tell me But the Mishna is giving me a rule that's neg. So it's not an exception then to any rule that was stated regarding a so struggles with this a little bit and says that even though it's true that the does not but that's but it still passes to say that being that usually was brought when is that it's usually that's why but you should know there are times that or not was brought And that is the it is worth mentioning that despite the fact that struggles with this a little bit but you do find in that we compare the to the and to these all get equated with each other and the features prominently in the as we're going to see in coming but the bottom line is says that from a dry technical perspective from the mission it sounds a little bit like and says it's actually not the case. Regardless, moving along said when uh was being brought as in the so the way they would create the the zo the sourdough to create the was they would take the from the actual that's the so for example if you have The ofus that is what you need for the so the was taken from that is it was turned into meaning it was made sourdough and then it was put back into the silus in order to turn it into said that if you would do it in that way it would not turn out being perfect rather maybe a sas they would take the from somewhere else meaning they would prepare and they would put it into the measuring cupid and that's the way they would fill up the mid. So the background the technical background to this is that the perfect way to make is by adding a little bit of in thet. That's why whenever you find the like in pes so you always find the lion of mentioned as well is a it's actually not it's but it's a it's a key ingredient in the process of making. dough. You take a little bit of a little bit of sourdough. You place it into the dough and by doing that you're going to cause the dough to rise and you're going to cause it to become where did the that was used when or the was being brought come from according to came from within according from it came from an external source. So again you have to have an isin of soilus that's the minimum share in order to have your carbon acc you took a little bit of that is you made it into and then put the back in together with the silus mixed with the water the oil whatever's with it and then it would become according to you would take from an external source you would make it but you would turn it into then you would add it together with the rest of the to create your now one technical nuance which is not so technical it's actually at the heart of the you have to have an isarn of according to you start with an isarn of silus you remove a little bit you make it into you put it back in according to the way you get your isar of silus is by taking putting it into the measuring cup and now filling up the balance of it with regular silus. So whereas according to you start with inarn of silus remove some of it convert it into sar and then put the sar back in accord you actually start with the and then just fill up the rest with you didn't start with a fully according to so this is the said that the reason I feel my way is better is because if you're going to do it your way it's not going to be perfect if you look at rashi if you look at it's not clear what the is the pharisees in his so he says that the reason held is because according to Yehuda if you're going to take the soil that was already in the in the isar that measuring cup and then you're going to wait for it to become sar it may not properly convert into sar and the reason is because people used to get very nervous the kahana when they were dealing with kachen they didn't want it to be nifina they I don't want it to become. So because of the it could be you're not going to allow it to rise properly. It won't be a proper. So then when you put it back into it's not going to do the job that it's really supposed to do. It's for that reason better prepare a proper before it's inside the then you'll put it into the is measuring cup. You'll add the balance of the sulus and then you'll end up getting what you're supposed to get. But the mission continues and says that or who's the told that if you're going to do it in this way, you're not going to end up with the proper share of is of silus. What's the reason? The reason is Rome holds that you have to have an isarn of silus. If you're gonna start off with a little bit of and then you're gonna add the balance of silus, inevitably you're not going to have any sern of silus. And the reason is because as the rises, so it ends up taking up more space than the actual amount of soil that's inside of it. In fact, Rashi goes and Rashi says that depending on how much water you add when you make the SAR, that will determine what the ratio of soil you're going to have in this same amount of as if you would have had if all you had was the silus. Rashi says if you add a little bit of water, so then the amount of silus is actually going to be more dense than it would be if it was straight silus. Which means, right, if you're going to take one/10enth of an is of versus one/10enth of an is of you're going to have more in the than you would have in the that's if you use a little bit of water. If you use a lot of water, then it's going to grow and it's going to end up fattening where it's going to measure as if there's more volume there than you would have if all you had was straight silus. In other words, if you would take one/tenth of an isarn of silus and you would mix it with a lot of water. So it would end up growing to maybe two tenths. It would end up being a much bigger number. The bottom line is is that if you're going to use the as part of measuring the isarin, you're inevitably not going to have a full is of silus. You're either going to have more or less depending on how much water you needed it with. If however you're going to start off with a full isurin and then you're going to remove the silus. Oh, in that case you know you start off with the full is everything is going to be okay. What was what does Rabuda hold? Rabuda holds that when it comes to measuring you don't need any of silus. You need an isern as a final product. So if you have the final product or be it with and then mix with silus that in of itself is going to be okay. And this really is the is between and according to you have to have an isarn of silus. So therefore you must start with the full isarn and then take the from it. I it's not going to end up grow maybe uh becoming the perfect it is what it is but it's the only way you know you're going to end up with the proper share according to you don't need an is of you need an is of whatever is inside this kal whatever is ultimately going to be used for the so it could be made up of and even though it's a little bit more than is of a little bit less of depending on how much water you use that's neither here nor there for that reason it makes more sense to take the from an external source because if you can do it the other It's not going to be in the perfect way either way. A little bit of a a technical in terms of this something that is going to very much discuss in tomorrow's but for now the following question. So the opening verse of the before the exceptions to the rule the general rule is has to be matzah. Sarah prayed to ask Ravi what's the mccartus so Ravi responded to him and he said what you're not sure open there's certain where it says that they have to be brought matzah he says it says it by the mas it says it by the maf there's certain where it says so if it says that's for sure not your question right and even the even the word doesn't say murish it has to be matzah This is in par when we have all the other that relate to the different right we've spoken about this in the past of the carbonus and then you have the that's mentioned in par where we fill in some of the gaps and the blanks that we have with regards to the different carbonas but the bottom line is is the says and then it What kind of question is that? There are certain where it says and even the ones that it doesn't say but you have this general told me I know there's a mitzvah for it to be matzah. My question is how do you know it's how do you know it's my question and sounds like it's and that was what wanted that's also a because it says and this is also in if it says what does that mean must be it's matzah now if the says already a second time that it has to be matzah we know the rule in kachum is and that's how I know said that it's going to be told how do you know that he says I don't understand the sermon where it says and even the ones where it doesn't say it says together and then it says and oh and by the way you'll tell me that's only that's also a it says which by definition means so I know it twice if I know it twice That's why that is going to be the so the Gar now just to speak up al what's going to happen in the next 10 lines is going to ask threeas three different are going to be on seem to give a very straightforward response to a very straightforward question and then it says it's on the second it's on that that we're going to see three kashes now from three different and three of the respectively are going to take issue with Amy's response specifically his second the first I understand that if it says in the it means that the saying you can't bake the into and the that's for sure an issue and I know then that it would be that the not be means it can't be means it can't be but there's still a possibility that it doesn't have to be matzah because maybe it could be so what's so is really again this is not matzah and it's not so usually you think of the as being very black and white. There's matzah and there's not true. There's an in between what's known as it's also referred to as now what exactly se is is everyone agrees it's somewhere in between the stage of being pure matzah and pure the question is at what point according to quotes says so as soon as the face of the matzah changes colors in English it becomes pale so at that point it's considered Rab Yehuda says that it's at the point where it develops where it starts cracking. According to Rab Yehuda, it's a little bit of a more advanced stage. But the bottom line is there is a mus of being in between matzah and the other thing we need to know before we start this next and that is according to mayor in the if somebody would eat again not matzah not he would eat on pes he would be over he wouldn't be but he would be over it's known again as there's a malus for there's no coin if somebody would eat se it would be considered to be nothing meaning it's not matzah it's not and as a result he would not be over anything. So again what exactly is according to a mayor it's this earlier stage according to it's when it develops these is according to mayor if somebody meaning it's going to it's not going to be so again with that background said that maybe when it says in the it means that it can't be but doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be matzah maybe it could be and if it could be we don't you don't have that it has to be hence because you know the first one yeah but the second one is not all it says is can mean yeah but it could also mean but there's no that it has to be matzah because it also be but the says let me understand this a little bit better when we say se who se do we mean do we mean ra and amen either. Do we mean in the world of Raud that Rayor's seer is maybe what the Pik means when it says and that's the maybe it could be seer meaning what describes as seer in the world of Rabuda but the says is a regular mata right we said is a more advanced stage which means if it hasn't developed yet to the point where It's all it is is then it's not se if it's not se then it's for sure matzah so it's what kind of is that maybe it doesn't have to be matzah maybe it could be that's if is asking is that maybe the is saying you could eat that's not true and the says alor is regular right se is that earlier stage once it's more advanced said and okay so maybe he meant more simple he's asking that who has a definition of which is called maybe that is what the is including in saying that you're allowed to make the the matzah from you're allowed to make the ma from but the lucky but the mayor holds that you get malus for eating right that's the other you get malus eating se must be it's even though there's no kus but it's and if the terrorist says then obviously that would not be okay. So according to Raor even if it's his own se it can't be something that the terrorist saying you're allowed to make because is that is and even though it's less than regular but it's nonetheless it is so if the says for sure you can't with that as the meant to ask was he meant that inhud's world that there's a seer of and that seer is not holds what that you don't get if you eat. If that's the case, it's somewhere in between and matzah. If that's the case, when the T says, it doesn't necessarily mean because it could also mean regarding. And if that's the case, it could also be right. So, this can't be how do you know? What did he tell? That's very good. That's not because that's just it can't be it could be but it could also be and by the way it would emerge even in world you should make it because the first right is on that mat that's not that's matzah but how do you know it's you know it's that it shouldn't be but you don't know it's that it has to be matzah either way that's the first second kamas asked the how do you know is that it has to be maybe it's true it can't be and if that's the case it could be matzah and by the way it probably should be matzah because that's the first but maybe it could also be maybe it could also be so what exactly is again this is technical but it seems that means when you take the dough and you put it into boiling hot water. That's when it becomes now is not regular matzah. As a matter of fact, it's a a big if you could be matzah with and specifically whether or not the waser to be but from the fact that the says that could mean that if you wanted to be it could be okay. So again, I don't have for all I have is one two, but maybe it could be and maybe it could be and if that's the case, how could this be? Maybe it could be. So the says when you say what are you referring to? Now there's a little bit of a over here. So we'll go with the gear of the if you're talking about a that the says was supposed to be brought a certain where the says was supposed to be it was supposed to be you know what means it means this is exactly what it means. So if it's talking about a that's supposed to be it says and if you're talking about that it doesn't say it's supposed to be then presumably it's not allowed to be in other words you're going to tell me is coming to tell me can't be coming to tell me you know why because if it's talking about that has to be then obviously it has to be anyways we're not having this conversation are you talking about it doesn't say from the fact that by some it says and by other it doesn't say doesn't that mean that the it doesn't say means it can't be so is already off the tish because only with the said so when it says what then does it mean it must mean not also not must have but the says it's not true and the reason is because I could always tell you maybe Wherever it says obviously but the ones that doesn't say meaning you're telling me that wherever it says obviously it's and where it doesn't say then for the fact that it doesn't say the omission is as if you're telling me that it can't be maybe where it says has to be but where it doesn't say it could be but it just doesn't have to be and if that's the case that it could be when it says what it's telling me is it for sure can't be but if you want it to be Yeah, it could be or it could be. But the point is which we now know has another name of you know it could be it could be or it could be that's the second third. How do you know is she know is the terra repeats itself twice. Tyra tells it to you once and tells to you again. Why you tell it to me again? And I heard it the first time. Oh, you're talking to me. That's the rule in over here. The second time the it's not repeating what it said the first time. The first time it said that's an the second time it says that's so if the second time the says that it's being this is not because this is not repetitive. This is being something that I had no idea of in the past. And if that's the case, The bottom line is three grace on response. Let's this again. How do you know that has to be brought matzah? What do you mean? Even the ones that doesn't. It says and then it says I knew that. But how do you know that it has to be said? It's also a possible right by definition. On that we have three caches. It's true there's a that it can't be but maybe it could be like we went through it's true there's that it can't be but maybe it could also be and finally this is not this is being this is not if that's the case we're back to the drawing board how do you know that it's that says it says in the parish of the so this is talking about says one of the places where the says should ask right we said this is one of the okay so it says you would think it's only a mitzvah the word is a lion of just a word the way we dion it and it's for that reason we know that it's either way this concludes the first part of today's you know first we thought it was says another question how do you know that that when they're needed they have to be kneaded with that's lukewarm water and that you have to watch you have to do a to make sure that it doesn't become now the background to this question is a where the Mishna says these words additionally wanted to know the now we'll see from the gar the is really asking the second where we going to see in the that's the only part of this that is going to bring a mart so obviously his question was not that's a separate this is focusing on the second part of this. How do you know there's of that have to watch it? They have to be to make sure that it doesn't become so before he let respond he threw out a suggestion. He said should we learn it from again this is very so we seem by the mat. So maybe this is the here too. you have to do a and it's the same right what's that doesn't become say here too there's a dinner he told him back now the isu it says you don't have to come on to learning it from somewhere else you don't have to be pun intended but rather you can learn it says and from the word we learn what's the so this is a you know give it life do something to make sure that it's going to stay okay now one is a hey and one is but we know they can interchange sometimes right but the bottom line is but one second if we're paying attention had asked in his previous question What the is that? And what did the Gorra say? The Gmorrah said it's learned out from and what does mean. So how could we now again to teach me another and that is that from the word? You're learning two that doesn't seem reasonable, right? Usually one extra word begets one. How could I learn two very critical from the same word? If all the wanted to tell me was the first and that is the could have said is a little bit of a dramatic word this two drawers to be had. So it's true it's one word but in this one word there's two and that's how I know these two either way the first half hour of today's daf was the latter part of today's daf is going to be an epic digression. So, uh, there are left turns and there are left turns. This is, uh, left turn with a jug handle. This is a fa U-turn here. So, the Gammorra is now going to do uh, epic digression as we just mentioned five times. And if you just follow the paper trail, it's because we mentioned rapid doesn't get mentioned that often in Shas. And the Gomorra is going to bring it related to the great raptor. The rabbon told Rab Ezra Barbarus Rab Ezra who's the anulus. He's also a 10th generation analra who himself was a 10th generation of Ezra. He's outside. So Ra is sitting inside and the come to tell him in who is it? So you give him a whole ye brief. It's Ra Ezra the grandson of Rabulis. By the way, he's the 10th generation of who himself was the 10th generation of Ezra. Right? The fact that was the 10th generation of Ezra is something that comes up in one of the most famous in when they had to pick a replacement for after the withhu and yavna and they weren't sure who the replacement should be. Ultimately was a and one of the qualifications he had was he was a he was 10 generations from from Ezra. We have a rabbite called the kaduca of the 10th generation. It's from Rab Margolus. It's a veru raid by classic. But either way, so they tell that this is standing outside. So when he heard how they were selling him, he's a 10th generation from him who's a 10th generation from him and Ezra are our first ballot Israel. But at the same time when he heard this, he said my kleh he says I don't know why you're you're selling him like this. Why is everyone getting so excited? Meaning who cares about if he's a what does it mean? If he's a means good then I'm happy and if he's a meaning and he's also it's good but if he's meaning but he doesn't have himself not let him be consumed let him be eaten up by by fire meaning I don't care about his is he I don't care if he has it doesn't have and if he is not then the is almost a negative they told him about pray don't have nothing to worry about he's said let him come in and let him uh enter so when he walked in saw that he was a little his mind was a little bit murky maybe because he was waiting outside maybe they told him how rapid had responded we'll see later. But the bottom line is so they tried being and the way he tried being Mafia is with said he started saying right they try to show him a little bit of he said it over the following and he dashed in the follow it's all talking and they told I want you to be for me I want you to show recognition and appreciation for me. Why did that owes appreciation? Cuz I made you famous in the world, right? We're the ones that I'm told. I'm not being to you. And you know why? Because they were my me and the world first. Meaning you're just standing on the shoulders. But they're the ones that really did this first. The says and this is the very next the ones they're the strong ones that I want and they're the ones that I'm going to be says and says I'm not being to you that's the next so again vibrator of Tulas who was 10 generations was 10 generations from walks in and he's feeling a little murky the season and he says over this wants because and says I'm not being to you I'm being that's the as soon as the said of given the sham He heard the word. So this Ezra told you you know I have something I want to say as well and he said over the following almost parable interesting what does it mean? So Ezra explained so called and he should be he should take revenge for the who's he taking revenge from the By the way some from this it would seem Which by the way if you look up this is a little bit of a discussion and finally so here's the word and he says you know some of you just reminded me of something very the was should avenge who were the from the mitz that were adim we're in the which is also considered. And then Ezra continued Ezra said I'll tell you did what does this mean again you did or did should come who's the son of did he should build you did for you did in the of did and through that will get six mentions of you did and you did so explained he was given the name by a descendant of it says and that's referring to as we're going to say built right your resting place that's the Bik is called the Bik was built it's a bias fashion Right. The first was built in, right? We know the md was in the refer as well. So heard prayed to say the word. So he got all excited. And then he said, "By the way, you know, this reminds me of a similar." What does this mean? Are going to get incidentally there's an interesting on the top. It's also in where says that in the so in the we say so who's this says in the name of based on this is referring to that's what says that you see was called you did right and then at the end of tus theid it's really referring to. So a little bit of a discussion of whether theid is whether theid is just one nice the last and it's really rooted in the Hashem tells the course is in line with that who's the little bit of when you say is it would be talked away or is it either way moving along so Ezra continued and Rabzra said by the way I have more raid on this this is already a related rate bite he said so four right as soon as was born so And what's this that is going to be right? on behalf of this is right but the point is another malita and continued he said so here the word that we're playing on is right all the So this is really the identical Russia as the previous right earlier was the same exact are we focusing sing on the word or we foc on the word on the word. Either way, moving along. So again, that concludes the story with Ezra Barbaris. That was 10 from Was 10 from Ezra. We're going to get back to that soon in the raid. But for now, we do what we always do when we learn and that is we digress from our digression. So we mentioned the PK earlier that said maladi referring to referring to aino. So the gar now is going to bring some that's going to play a little bit on that. So just as a a little bit of a to what we're about to do it's not really but there's a few that the is going to focus on now and that is in yo pericurf. So is very upset atro and he's telling them about all the all the terrible things that are going on right don't even d I don't even know why is babesi do you realize how bad the this situation is. Next again, it's not what's going on over here. If you want to see the we're going to do what we do, and that is go through the halletic interpretation of this incoming when the base was destroyed who was standing in the mik told him what's right this is says what are you doing in my house I want to see what's going on with my children your children they sin they're not here they're not home said they sin could it be they sam Those are the next words. They s maybe it was told him next word in the it was the said why didn't they do every Jew does not true they didn't even do the maybe should have given them a little bit more time he told them he says no they're so bad and they're happy and they're joyous this there's no hope for them. There was no way in the world that they were going to do chuva. It wasn't going to happen. So as soon as heard this, he took his hand and he put it on his head and he started yelling and crying doesn't mean there's no came out and told next that the ros like the Zas. What does that mean? Just like the zas at the end. So the zas it takes time for it to fully mature and cultivate. But meaning it has an it has a but it happens you know at the end. So they're going to eventually have a next words of the are what does this mean? of the of the words of the mira different the branches of the fell. What does this mean? When the Maglin came back with their report, what they said was a dotle. They said, you read the PK, they're reporting, they're saying there's these mighty nations, they're they're more powerful and stronger than us. But that even though we telling you what's going on in is stronger than God, is not going to be able to do what he needs to do. But either way, that's what this means. When it says that last part of that, what it's referring to is this. It's referring to the fact that the came with a report and the is the words and because of the coil of their words, the branches were broken. So what does it mean? The branches were broken. It's rashi. But if you take a look at the marsh, the marsh says it means the bt because we know that what was the night that the moragen came back with the report and it was the night of tishab and that was the night that became a where not for that night could be the would have never been destroyed and if that's the case that is the ver that's the reason that's what ultimately played a role in but the bottom line and I heard this last is related to the he said it doesn't say is a word this is speech it says it means something else so he follows that you want to know what that is referring to it's a continuation of right we mentioned this all is all the end of this p in the garra's first version was a little bit of a pivot and it's talking about theum all of a sudden now it's related to certainly the way the Marshall explains it and to what's going on in that but the way explained it it's going back to I heard your voice and I'm going to have them because I had said to myself that each one of the four that were going to be we're going to Each one is only going to get what they're supposed to get that the four goalies were going to happen one after another but now I'm going to have all four of them with at the same time and like this it's not going to be so bad. So what's the background to this? So again here to mash but this is sort of the way the mash sets this up and that is we know was in four golas par and the mccar to the dal golius traces itself all the way back to the brisbane rashana very very in the parish of the brisbar bringing out this point now initially there was supposed to be four galas each one was going to have it whatever it was supposed to be at the time of the kas sin so badly that said that I'm going to make that each one of the golas will be longer than what they were supposed to be. As a matter of fact, each one of the golas will be the shear of what the dalid golas was supposed to be combined. So let's say the four golas combined was supposed to be uh 400 years. So now each one is going to end up being 400 years. But because Abrau yelled and he screamed and this massive said I'm going to shift the nature of what the fol are going to be and I'm going to reinstate what I wanted it to be and that is each one's going to have it share. This is the first version of the by the way the second version of the it really was supposed to be and now there was some element how they overlap with each other which makes it much much better. A little more. Why is to refer to as an olive? So the right the leaves of the olive don't fall off. Not in the summer, not in the winter. They never fall off. Always is on its tree. Never falls. Why is referred to as just like Zas? How does it produce oil? You have to crush it, right? Unfortunately, we need sometimes in order to be and it's only through the issim that Israel comes around and we are going to exhale over here. Not stop. We're going to exhale and just speak out one. I feel like you can't go through this gamar even though we're a little behind without speaking out. And that is so the portion of today's began with one shila another related to the of related to the idea that there's a watch to make sure that it wasn't going to become just like you find in there's an idea of when it comes to the as well. So we mentioned rap praa and from there the gumar digress and told the story with rapida the story was that the rabban come to rapa and they tell him there's a yid standing outside he wants to come in what's his name Ezra he's a grandson of rabulis 10 generations from who himself was 10 generations of Ezra so said I don't know why you're getting so excited about he said is he a benra good if he's a benyra and also ais good but if he's a not he should be consumed by fire. They told him I hear but you should know he's a bent and being that he's a bent so I think it's fine. He said no let him come in. He walks in does this and sees that he's a little like disappointed. So he tried being of him a little bit. So he told him he said the says and he said what the means again in tells I think you should be to me and the reason is so I'm not being to you I'll be because they're the ones that were me in the world and pray continued and That's the next that says when 10 generations of 10 generations of heard the word he says you know you just reminded me of something he said and then he went and and that was this uh very interesting. So a few things number one this is the famous right we know from the gar in but talks about the patience the savonus that he had towards that talmud that found it very very difficult to learn. One of the most inspirational stories of Talmud without a question is the story of and the incredible reward that he got for what it was that he did his whole we always speak out from that he got because he gave up so much time you would think that he lost that time he lost it gave him you never lose from giving away to somebody else whether it's your time whether It's from your g your m whatever it is a person never loses. He gave up so much time so he got the time back. He got it back in spades. He was to an incredible. But this story you have to figure out just make sense of it again. But this almost is showing a whole another side of that very inspirational. I mean this is like I don't care about his either he knows how to learn doesn't know how to learn. And by the way if he has good he doesn't know how to learn. something to think about first. Second is I saw in the from Margolus he says what's in this if he's but he's not he's not so he says like this you find the says in any house where there's no being learned at night deserves to be consumed by a fire. So the idea of being associated with is that's something that you find. But the more nuanced application of it in this gamorrah if he's a and he's not a as if he's not a but he's not a I don't know but if he is a but he's not a it's a little bit classic says any person that's margles you see from that who's subject to the of is someone that's a pyishra not someone that doesn't learn someone that's pish what's the difference someone that's pish means he was connected to and then he was pish from the he separated himself from it if somebody was never connected from it he can't be pish from it means I did something and now I'm going to be right or in this case in a bad way means you're attached and Now you dis you detach. You're associated and now you disassociate. It's someone that's where there's a concept of our goal. That's the I'll say that any person that is the Ben of who himself is the son of that means if somebody from that means he has a certain connection to the comes to him the it literally knocks on his door. that person if he doesn't learn he's a if you're a that's when this person is going to have the so said if the person never learned okay never learn if he's someone that doesn't from okay he has no but if he's a but he's not as he's the he's that person that I have to be worried about That's why he used this metaphor and that's it's referring to someone that's the first. The second is just the whole story is is very very awesome or I think we're up to the third already losing camp. So Ezra wasn't Ezra standing outside and they prayed and they prayed about this grace brief and he's like very unimpressed he's he knows how to learn he knows how to learn that he's the son of galdic if he's the son of he's a he's from the zus in the world but he doesn't add to learn then Then I'm very disappointed. They say no. He knows how to learn. He comes in. He's a whatever, right? He feels bad. So tells him to try to be uses the word and then launches into. So what's going on over here? So the and this is in if you want to look it up it's in a matter of fact it's the very very last piece in in par in the newers it's in olders it's has a whole lot he actually starts by being the part of today's daf and this story but I'm just going to pick up the very very last part of He says that why was it that when Rab Ezra walked in he was a little bit sar and that felt he had to be mafia he said the reason is because it was very very mashma from said that was not impressed with his I mean that's an understatement but it's even more than that it's for said that held it's more if someone's if he's not Then if he is a where's the he said because listen to what he said he said if he's a and then he went if he's and he's the son of good what was that said it sounds like it sounds like what he was trying to say was is that the is he's a you're telling me he's a meaning his father's okay well in that instance it's a little less impressive and if he's then I don't even want to talk to him see it sounded like if he's not the son of wow that's not shy I don't care about his care you're telling me he HAS A AND HE'S OKAY I COULD LIVE WITH THAT MEANING it's still impressive he's learning but he's a it's not that impressive and he's a and he's not a then right that he's a pirish but very but the bottom line is that that it sounded a little bit and maybe a lot of it that is of the opinion that if anything works 100% against you if you don't do the right thing and even if you do do the right thing it's much less impressive than otherwise and Rebezz walks in and he's visibly a little bit you know not in such a mativ because of what the great reprais says I prayed this and I'm going to back up my and he turns to and he tells him the says so he told them for me why because we're my dear you in the world what to say I'm not being to you know I'm going to be to What'su was he grew up in the house of they operated in a world where there was no one that believed in anything and they were fighting the fight all on their own. When somebody fights the fight on their own, that's when I'm but being that you come from you come already from from so you're standing on the shoulders of giants. What you're doing is less impressive and as a result I'm not being to you. So the said that what was telling Ezra was that no I think I'm right for my and you know what is because they operated in a vacuum in a midbar as opposed to client ro who already had this huge head start that somebody that does it on his own is more impressive that somebody that doesn't do it on his own this is and this is why told us to razor responded he heard the word ader he said raped to allow me to hold the mic for a moment. I want to say my peace as well. Right. And that is and what it means is from the and it was weird that the were punished in as it says and said I have a mess. I have a messiah on this limud on this malita. But you know what you see from this malita? What you see from this mita is is that there's something to be said about the fact that because that's why went and saved them because also the fact that it was that it's for that reason that was names matter said if that's the case having and being named after those of very very very much matter. And the here digresses for a minute in the way he does so many times throughout his and that is he talks about the and he mentions over here he believes that had this downfall because one of the was but the bottom line is says where was telling was is that you may feel big deal he said but I want you to understand something my name is Ezra my name is Ezra and I want you to know whose name was Alazar which also comes from the shish of Ezra who had a father whose name was Aario that also comes from the word Ezra who was an from Ezra meaning I'm named after Ezra who was named after Ezra that's father who was named after Ezra and because of that there's a certain that we have the names matters and that was his response was a little bit in his mind denigrating his saying that it's a and even in the best case scenario you'll never be as the person who doesn't have the but said him I think there's another Indian over here and it's because that came and he saved there is something to be said about a name and the fact that I have that I'm called Ezra Ezra all the same of Azer of Azer Help, help, right? It's all related to this that this is how it played itself out. And then said that you find as it relates to this of so how many were there? So the says that there's four mentions of of over here, right? two on the side and then this two on the side right is going to punish the so just to read the words of the gamatria of the word times two so what's the gamatria of the word is 215 what's 215* 2 that's 430 that's a very Jewish number this time of year it's gatria arb It's it's connected the 430 years that was and it was together with because it was the big so is and together it's 430 and that's connected this together but at the end of the 430 He punished the way says that in this of a to the 430 years this word what does it have to do with the what does it have to do with the pes story has a lot to do with the pesak story it has to do because 215. 215* 2 is 430 and together we're in when is there with them like but the bottom line is whenever the is with them that's times two that's 430 the will punish that's also 215* 2 430 again today's daf was uh the first half of the fifth. But in the spirit of very much and some of the especially with the from the and we are going to stop