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Today's and we are 12 lines from the bottom of today's being learned from Mir and so we're moving along in the six learning is related to the and specifically the idea that The carbon was what was the carbon was in the mdto in yesterday's d theor brought six from the related to different shilas regarding this idea that the and respectively were what was m the first part of today's daf is very much going to pick up on that note and is going to continue posing questions related to this topic. Yesterday's daff we had six and today's daf we're going to have four buyers which back at the envelope arithmetic is going to add up to a total of 10 on this topic. Now today's as we're going to see are going to be a little bit more zim related. Interesting. Additionally, they're going to focus more on the carbon less on the so the background information that we need for today's that at this point we should know is that was what was the definition of so we saw in yesterday's d and really the is aishna that is on the bottom of which is today's daf anything that had been hush quote unquote took root before the carbon was brought was m if something had been planted but it wasn't nishrash yet before the carbon was brought then it doesn't become the carbon but rather it would have to wait a full year until the next carbon was brought in order for it to be mut the first that we're going to learn is going to discuss Someone who had planted tu the tu had grown. Then he took it out of the ground. The carbona was brought which means the carbona was mate. But after the carbon was brought he took it and he planted it again. And because he planted it again it continued to grow. What continued to grow after the carbon was brought is going to remain kadesh until the subsequent carbon is going to be brought. Which means that whenever he harvests this thing, it would seem that part of it should be mut should not be considered kadesh because it had grown enough before the carbon was brought and as a result the carbon should have been mid but part of it should be asser because that part grew after the carbon was brought. It wasn't hush before the and as a result it should have to wait a full year until it's going to be mut and the question then is can I eat this or could I not eat this so it's an interesting question let's see an insight okay the following question regarding which grew a it grew a third before the carbon was brought and then the farmer went he uprooted it from the around the and he planted it again this time after the carbon was brought and it continued to grow. What's the what's the lean? Do we look at the original part of this that had already grown a before the carbon was brought. Certainly that was something that the matter or maybe we go based on the additional growth which came after the carbon was brought and if that's the case it's going to be until the next carbon is going to be brought. So a very interesting question that asked you have something that essentially was planted twice based on the first gel the carbon should be m based on the second gel the carbon should not be mate how do we view it you go bust the that's the first gel in which case it would be okay or do you go b the in which case this would seem to be a problem so it's interesting if you look carefully at the it sounds like there's two possibilities one possibility is it's all going to be mut because you go buser the other possibility is that it's all going to be user because you go bus the in the course of the sugar is going to throw out a third possibility which is obvious and that is maybe it's partially mut and partially maybe the is and the is going to be but for now just ting the words of the gum it sounds like there's two there's two options that are on the table one option is in which case it's going to be completely mut the other option is that in which case it's going to be completely user if you take a look at rashi rashi makes two sophus to the gumar that I think is worth mentioning number one rashi says that manaz's case was with the grew aish before the rashi why they have to grow a schlish what is the determining factor whether the is mim is not matter is when the took place why does it have to grow a schlish So Rashi says because had it not grown a schlish and then the farmer would pull it out of the ground it wouldn't be considered a proper pre it's what's referred to as shakas it would be considered animal f and if that's the case the carbon would not be able to be mate in other words when we talk about hashrussa that's just determining does it belong to this year does it belong to a following year but in terms of whether or not the carbon could be matter the carbon can only be materi and if Somebody would pull something out of the ground in a state of shakas wouldn't be mred and if the is not m we're not having this conversation is not here but makes the same that rashi makes and that is and explains it exactly the opposite from rashi says that if it wouldn't have grown it wouldn't require the carbon to be because only m and to the extent that it's shakas so you don't even need the carbon the only reason said is because if it's not then you don't even need the and if that's the case you wouldn't have to have this conversation. The other that's worth mentioning and Rashi says is that when the farmer went and he replanted this it was it grew a little bit more. It sounds like from if it would have grown a lot at that point for sure you'd go bus and the whole question over here is where it grew. The way that was the at first glance it would appear that we could be from something that said in the name what did say in the name if somebody took a yalda somebody took a young tree this tree is how young it's young enough that the pay that are growing on it are going to be ara meaning it's in the first three years of its life and he went and he grafted it together with Ska with an older tree uh a tree whose payrise because it's already a scana would not be subject to the laws of who pay now this yald had perce the amount of peris that were on from the time that it was a yaldo still would be awesome meaning this trees pays are always going to be what's the because in the world of BL has a very and that is so saying is that even if you would have 200 times of GD which you would think is connected the pay that this brought with it the is it would still be awesome and the reason is because Zilbaser the we look at the ya which was the ikar as being the ka in terms of in terms of what the status of all the peris are going to be in other words being that the tree started off being a yald even though now it was merged and now this typhus and that typhus technically should be mut but we always look at the typhus as just adding to the and if the is awesome because it's then theis is also going to be awesome. But what do you see from here? You see when you have a sh like this you always go to the we should be able to be push what was the shil where you had you planted it once then you planted it again based on the should says another by the way if somebody took an onion and he went ahead and he planted it in aim Now that's a problem cuz that's so the butel would be but then he went ahead and he uprooted the kim. So whatever is going to grow now is ready to be. So it started offer but now because you uprooted the kim so if it continues to grow it's actually going to be even if it grew now 200fold it's going to be and what's the reason it's going to be because even though like also but we say that any gets dubbed based on what the is and being that the is the is going to be the bottom line is really from two places for send And for send the name there's a precedent from and not to be confused with each other. There's two clearly from that would seem to be the sh that what you go but the says he really knew he really knew. So what was his he was asking on what and had said. How so? was was it that you're supposed to go the and that's true could be this were really if you go and the only reason they went to the and they said that is always going to be a problem the camera is always going to be problem you can't even be because you go that was It was to establish and to establish and to tell me that it's not subject to but to say the same to say that you're going to go and that if something grew and something which until you bring the next carbon that was meaning knew he knew there's an idea going but he was claring he was trying to understand what they hold do they hold you go maybe they only hold you go in their case in my case we're going bus would really be a either way that was the and what's the answer like in many of the in yesterday's we don't know now the next of today's is very much in fact it's very much a continuation of this discussion of Uh so even though the Gmorra says the changes the gears what's the with regards to this which we now know also discuss how would this play itself out as it relates to say what's the case I'll tell you where someone went ahead he assessed his messer obligation and he was mafish micer okay so somebody was mafish micer so far so And then he took the that he was already miser from and he planted it again and it continued to grow. Okay. What's the shila? So here too you have an interesting situation because what was put into the ground you ready from and if that's the case it certainly should be right it's not anymore you gave but then again you it continued to grow and if it continued to grow the technically should be right see this shil very similar to shil similar to's case now says knew all the ra that we had in the beginning of the his wasim. If you're going to tell me that as much as said you go that was only but if the would be you wouldn't go meaning you don't go to well that would mean in this case you wouldn't go and say that the itself doesn't require meer based on the fact that you go busker and the icker you already gave me from and as a result the tophus also not because got you're not going to go bus. Well, if that's the case for sure is going to require stating that what's regarding the you don't go bust the so if that's the case is going to be in a state of which means that in this case of the for sure would be the shas what about the how would you treat the what's the shil do we say that the goes b the or maybe we're going to treat the and In other words, Rabbi was clearing a third side. This third s that we foreshadowed at the beginning of the d and that is when pazi presented the shil the shil was do you go bust at the or do you go b the it sound like that was the shil ra is posing now a third side his third side is when you don't go bus the is the you go bust of the or maybe you leave the leave in his case where somebody was and then he took from the he put it back in the ground it continue to grow. So you have an which is not you have a that is you're not going to go bust that we established already or at the very least we're taking on one side in the question is does that mean that you go bust the and everything is going to be being that the is or maybe you're going to have a taru is of and not but the interrupts the sha and the gumar says so ra was the one that was talking posing the question so turned to ra and he said I don't even understand the Why is this different than meaning anytime a farmer plants and you take seeds kernels from you put it into the ground and that's how you plant. So I understand why don't we say that always being that you were right presumably you and by the way it's not just presumably because it's actually a plant from so you already gave your mistress. So if you already gave your mistress, so we should say that part of what you planted should not be. And we know that's not true. Anytime you plant everything that grows is considered. So Abaya turns over. He says, "I to me your whole Shil is dead on arrival. You're suggesting there's an there's a that is and you have an intim on top of everything that we've been discussing up until this point. I'm not sure where this other is even coming from because to me it's posit that everything is going to be every time a farmer plants a seed the seed gets completely consumed in the ground and it's for that reason whatever grows is we assume is not related at all to what happened earlier and that's why we view it as my case is where somebody took the put him in the ground again we're not farmers but it was in a way where it wasn't zar where the the n that was put into the ground is still somewhat intact and therefore I have it that that should be viewed as really not being devil anymore stating that if you go bust the so then it would be an or maybe no maybe you separate them and that was a sh but the says we should be able to be pleased from something that named if someone had a litter of that's a certain amount of onion and he was meaning he was mistress and then he planted so whatever grows is considered to be meaning even though the original of you already from so you would have thought that after the onion grows one lit of it should be considered already mo so when you're making you're doing the assessment And how much you have? Take everything you have subtract the because we know one that was really not because you had already given from it. But the name that and over there it's not. So what do you see? You see that even where it's not once you replant something becomes but say not over there the of the way you plant a butel is you take a butel you put it in the ground that's the way they used to plant it mean that that's the way they used to plant it so therefore it's considered replanted because you did something that's as opposed to to take the and to plant it in the way that is suggesting it was planted in his that was so here rael that there's no reason to assume that the status of it being is negated by the fact that you planted it again unless you tell me you go bust it but that was rail was I understand you're not going again he's you don't go but does that mean you're going to go or maybe what it means is the is going to be and the is going to be either way This concludes the second ibaya. We have no to this which takes us to the third which we're gonna see at the end of the discussion is really I'm quoting Rashi identical to the second turn he told them what's the regarding so in a lot of you have the and invited is a flower pot that has a hole on the bottom. So we assume that it's being yik from the ground. Whatever grows in this is growing directly from the ground. An is a flower pot that does not have a hole in the ground. As a result, it's not being directly from the ground. There's a huge If something grows in an If something grows in, it's growing in the flower pot. It's not growing in the ground. with their eyes. He's a big bottom line and he tells him now it's very unclear what exactly the Shiloh was. But it sounds like from response that understood the Shiloh was could I be mafish ma from something that grew in one on behalf of something that grew in another. So he told him like I understand if there's no hole in it there's no hole in it. So it's the other thing is also why can't you be mafish from one on to the other. So tells me obviously he didn't mean to ask me that mean he was very cryptic you want to know if it's if you from one other I mean I'm not sure what the is so himself is doing to talk to him. He told him maybe what you want to know is what would be if someone had and then he made a hole in it. So this suddenly became and it continued to grow and shil is how do I view the status right now of what's inside of it. What's the sh it's very similar to the cases we had up until this point cuz whatever grew when the was only now that you made a hole whatever grows is going to be already if you go then what you're going to have over here is you're gonna have a situation where everything is going to be if you're gonna go bust the what you're gonna have over here is a situation where everything is going to be and if you're going to go boser whatever grew in a mat of whatever grew in a mat of is so then you're going to end up with a where some of it is going to be one way and some of it is going to be the other way right this is a comparable to all the shils that we had up until this point right let's compare it to rail rail was where somebody took something that he already gave me from he put it in the ground it continued to So now we have that was that was that was you go then it's all good. If you go it's all bad and if you you sort of look at it as however then it's whatever was was whatever was was. So then you can have a tar of good and a taru of bad. Either way, Sabaya turns to and he tells him maybe that was your Shiloh. Maybe your sh is how exactly are we going to treat the situation where of it was where of it was in a in a and of it wasn't a nut it's and the way Rashi explains that was suggesting do you mean I heard the sh from do you mean you're going to tell me that you're not going to go buster over here and the reason you're not going to go buster because we're gonna on that side of sh the only time you go buster is But not and here if you're going to go we're going to say was it's going to be so on the that you're not going to go. So do you say that you go about and if you go about the whole Indian is or you going to say no part of it is but part of it and that's the and Rashi says by the way it's could you be from the to the is only on that side is he can't be up to but the bottom line is so suggest this is probably your probably was not but and this is your it's and he told him did that if your shil I want you to know I think here it's it's pos 100% sure what do but I think as it relates to this sh we would because over only in the case where you had something that already grew. You werees from it and then you put it back in the ground. That second time that you put it in the ground is a completely separate zar. Right now it is being planted for the second time being that it's being planted now for the second time. So it's over there that ra has his shil. But over here when you take something that's growing in the flower pot you put the hole in it and now all of a sudden it's been from the ground I don't look at that as two separate I look at it as one he I look at it as one is I think that's the way you have to look at this and the lumbus of it is is that when the hole is made and now it starts being yik from the ground that is the hashrasha right so a very critical part of the growth of urus is the hashra The act of going and making a hold is now what's inside the it's with the ground that in the words of Rashi is the actual hash and it's pushed over here that we would look at it as as one big inion and if it's one big in then for sure there's no sad there's no sad that you're going to be able to say that this is a little bit like this and this is a little bit like that. have to view it as as one Indian and if you're not going to go bus the over here because the only time you go bus the isra well then you're going to have to go bus the but there's no to be between the two where it's two you could say that the status of what came from this is this way and the status of what came from the other is that way but to the extent that it's to the extent that we look at it as one thing that's not something that's going to be a possibility either way the fourth and final had the following somebody had and he did. So is the action. It's the that makes the so he did and then afterwards he planted it again and when it was in the ground he decided I want that to be the truma. I want that to be the micosis. Again let's get the case. The case is we have a farmer. He has his and now he did once he does everything is everything. He then takes some of this devil. He wasn't yet. puts it in the ground and when it's in the ground he went ahead and he was he decided that what that he replanted that's in the ground right now that's what he want to be the true that's what he wants to be the what's the do we say once he did it all became so now that he was the whole thing is going to be called don't worry maybe once he put it back in the ground it loses its status of of because once you put it in the ground. So now the meter starts running again. So the fact that there was a miru is is bottle and if that's the case it can't be from this. But if we assume that once you put it in the ground now whatever happened up until this point is null and void. Well it's not anymore. If it's not anymore you won't be able to use this as true. So this was the shabo. So the rabbon heard the shil and they turned to abay and they told if is right that could be it would be considered replanting it doesn't unwind it and as well you could use it as truma well doesn't it emerge that it's possible to have we know that truma can never be in other Shila is sort of taking for granted that the fact that you replanted this that in of itself is not an obstacle of it becoming true. The obstacle becoming true is that maybe when you replanted it's not but that sounds like it's neither here nor there. And this what happened to the cloud. Now it's interesting the sounds like it's a it's not a okay change the gears. The problem is we don't know if such a price either. Look at says soan doesn't sound like the right doesn't sound like the right ga it's a loss or but the bottom line is that how even such a sh this whole thing should be dead on arrival because we know there's no such thing as true that's not here we have the this that we have that doesn't mean it can't be it means it means with regards to the for that it's regarding and the reason is the reason is that because the only time it's possible for a person to be for eating something you're not allowed to eat is if you eat it in the normal way. So in the event that he would go and he would rip it out of the ground and he would eat it. But if he would bend and just bite the out of the ground when it's in a state of it would be and if it's people don't eat that way it wouldn't be considered you wouldn't be. So it's with regards to the there's an idea of it's if you go and you pluck it out of the ground and you're at zar and you eat it you will be but although Rabo's ship seems to presuppose that it's for there to be a of true It's true. That means something else. That means with regards to the if a person eats it while it's says is that true that if a person would eat it's not considered it's not considered eating and therefore there's no there's no and that's why is this different than something that was found on the pink of the pink of fame. What did it say in the pictures of the the eggs of the of if part of the egg was was outside of the and part of it was whatever is inside whatever was outside is not. So the background to this that was in the pinkus in the of is the idea that the veil of anar is somebody that eats it good. We're discussing now there was anar that had a and while it died part of it was and part of it was if somebody eats that b is it going to be mat is not going to be mat. So said whatever's inside the animal inside the will be matama. Whatever is outside is not going to be mata. Now, how's somebody going to eat what's inside? He would have to take the and put his face inside of it and eat it. It's the only way he'd be able to eat it inside. Why? Because if you're going to take it out, then it's going to be outside. So, the only way it's going to be inside is if you eat it in that way. Why is that not we just said if somebody would bend down and bite out of the ground it would be considered well from what it said and the and where it would seem to suggest if somebody would bite into the to the it would be why is it being if he's doing something that's really out of the ordinary it shouldn't be him but the says no it's You can't compare the two things. One is talking about the other is talking about right. So to bite out of it in that way is not considered out of the ordinary. But to bend down onto the ground and eat out of the ground that's something that's completely strange. That's not something you find anywhere. And it's regarding that it's regarding that that the is that it's one last related to this topic said in the name of somebody goes ahead and somebody plants on. So somebody planted inside an it's going to be awesome. This is what the says. So heard this comment that was in the name of said to me this sounds very obvious but saying the name of is that the person that is actually a malus then I hear what he's saying. But if he's simply coming to say if he holds you're actually not going to be malus well if that's the case I'm not sure what is what is that if somebody plants in an is considered as we know that if somebody goes ahead and from so and the reason you have to give again is because you because the pot. But the bottom line is you see clearly that it's a tumor. So what does it mean it's a tumor? It's considered as real. Just because it's in a flower pot that's not doesn't necessarily mean it's nothing. Well, if that's the case is going to be. Now if you're going to tell me well that already I understand. If however you're coming to tell me you're coming to tell me that you're not going to be that you're just it's just considered as real. Well, if that's the case, I'm not really sure what the is. Either way, this concludes the first part of today's moving along to part two. These are the five types of grains. Not just that with each other to create a so if you have a certain you can bear to from all these different things all these things are the laws of apply to them until the carbon is brought. That's the right init until PES or really until as we'll see the first night of PES. So just like there's she eat anything that before the carbon was brought there was also to cut to do on the until the carbon was brought and that's what the Mishna is saying. The mission is saying that the laws of apply to these five types of side regarding and with regards to the next anything that already took root before the carbon was anything that didn't take root before the was brought would remain until you bring the next. This is this idea that really permeated the last two daffin a little bit and that is that the definition the cuto off as it relates to does it belong to this fiscal year or not is told when took place. If took place if it took place then the is not going to be mice is a type of wheat and the other three are types of five grains is a type of are you want to know is says the it's tapa these five things that are considered grain but as it relates to which is rice and another type of grain these are not considered grains so there's five grains the mish is making pretty clear and it's that them yes and everything else says it immediately what's the mart to this that it's ta these five and nothing else said and wants to know what's the as it relates to specifically we're talking about first so what's the from these five grains and not anything else what's like the big not you could have thought are also considered grains but they're not so says what's the we learned from and by the way here's another big time it says over here It says regarding the laws of and it says regarding so it says here it says and just like by it's from those five grains not so too when it comes to it's the same thing says how do you know that has to come from the five grains says of and we learn from the juxiposition between the anything that could come to become as opposed to these things they can't become elderly. In other words, if you're going to leave the dough of out to rise, it's not going to become it's going to get spoiled. is something that could become is subject to the laws of matzah something that can't can but here's the point matzah has to be from the five and we have is governed by whatever governs matzah so if from the five so when it comes to it's going to be only from the fiveishna said that the different types of grains Meaning a little bit of this, a little bit of that. If somebody takes or d one is the just the other one it was grounded to the third is where it's already in a dough. The point is that for what is going to have a whole bunch of suggestions. So if somebody eats a gets malus so you should know them with regards to the they are going to bear says if somebody eats outside he gets malus again has to be a so it would be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of but it would be mitar says it's so we know could become but for as well the so if you would have a little bit of this a little bit of that a little bit of the other thing it would all bear that's what the B is saying that was that I want you to know what the is because really it's not such a it's all so why should not bear there's a big here that the only time or even when there's a is if it's similar to the by the time you have you know all the was already removed it's the only time and would become is if you have a shear without the it has to be but if it's not then not in other words the already would not be included so what would be an an example of that right what would be an example of where you have something that's not that we're saying that it's not so if you look at it's actually the first narrow line towards the top of the so says the right the barley or the that's inside the not it's not the it's not for I have a that supports this as it relates to it's always doesn't matter if it's kufa meaning you remove the layer around it or you didn't it's going to be when it comes to and the reason is because the layer that's around the is And because it's not it's not which is exactly what we just said. In other words of regarding the way is understanding it is that the and the has to be to the and just like the is pure food. So too the tu and the would have to be pure food. Ask is that true? We learned a says in the regarding this is a pretty wordy pos that becomes even if it's in the way or if it's in the way that people usually go ahead and plant it. That's the way you plant. But the bottom line is what do you see from here? That is because it's in that m of the way you go ahead and you do this. I thought you just told me that the is not the says it's not aasha. One is talking about where the kipa is moist. The other is talking about where the kipa is dry. What's the difference? So really the difference is follows. Only reason the clip of the even though it's not technically would be to of is because even though it's not but it's considered to be for so is that the of a pre gets on the takes on the status of a pre this is 101 and that's what these are discussed but the of a pre is like a pre so as long as the clip of the is protecting the so that would make it a shy and as long as it's a shy it would be included is of it being able to be the only time it's aime is when it's once it's doesn't have the ability to be a anymore. So as long as it's a that's at that point it can't be anymore and being that it can't be anymore. So it's for that reason it's going to be out returning to the raid from yesterday's and that is the suga of inut. So yesterday we did part one of the suga of today we'll do the part two. So just to make a little bit of a a little bit of recap of what we did yesterday says that is in if you look at the no on the doesn't is but the really is the is the raam the rift is yesterday we mentioned that after learning it would seem to be a little bit of aesh Why? Because in the Mishna it was and where in it is or is not the said that all are only with the exception of rebel after further review was rebel said not and also in today's we saw it could be rebel holds only but the bottom line is is the one that holds. We know number one is and based on basic elementary you would think that should be like that that should be stating that following the lead of the is and at first glance it's so yesterday we went through a little bit the different that you find in that talk about this of >> and what we realized was that although in our it seems to be and but once you start compiling all the different it's clearly a little bit more intricate than that and based on that if you recalibrate what you need to do with Kabak it's not not so posh that should not be and in fact it's very moving why all emerged and why is incidentally and this we did not mention yesterday in our just from learning so stating that between the word said it sounds a little bit from at that and are arguing how to understand the word where I says that what does mean whereas proving from shabas that really means what was the of the iss how you read and how you touch the word that it says in the parish of rebel understood that it means whereas understood it that it means well if that's the case and in understand then what would then emerge is that who said that the word of means would hold like who holds would be so even from learning you're right primarily But now has on his side. Oh, if it's a whole different maybe some people, but it definitely tips the scale and it creates a whole another scenario. Additionally, on the bottom of the And what were the three mitzvah? didn't explain it but Rashi did and said that really one of them is and that's and from I can know the other two a triple double but the bottom line is it sounds like also saidur that is that is going to be and it sounds like it's going to be So although it's true in the itself it's but after further review you also might have and you also have who also were of the opinion that is certain to that we said you have which was very much a topic of today's albeit the portion of it that says which seems to imply that we mentioned the days with different of how the rabbis regarding which obviously is had one and had another Ravina's father had a third and were of the opinion And therefore it played itself out and there were and father held and as a result they held just like you keep two days of you keep two days of you keep two days of the and but the bottom line is you had the ra of ashi who seemed to be the who were of the opinion that is now another thing we saw in that was that even of that didn't hold but held that it was and we spoke out where does that even come from either it's or it's means everywhere or it's because where do you get this that it should be so we said from and it's because even the whoadesh is not they didn't say they said it was but it's only because they held that there's no but really is going to be that is and according to the it should be another that we mentioned that's very very important is the where the Mishna says that all the were able to be brought from and you can bring it from with the exception of two carbonas two and they had to be brought from and they had to be brought da from Israel and it's in the reason the time of the holds that they had to be brought da from Israel is because the time of the hel they had to be brought from and the only time you have is if it's going to be init. But if it's in that there's no therefore you can't bring the from that's the case it sounds like you have no that holds that is not. So again at first glance you have that's the and based on that you would think should be stating that you have which says and you have the that seem to also you have who certainly don't hold that you have who hold like those but at the same time at the very least hold that and you have established that holds that is not which is like which probably will mean that it's not going to be. So really as it relates to whether or only held that it's only good. That's the but as we mentioned yesterday, it doesn't really help us because at the end of the day, but it's user. So at the end of the day, It's be it or be it merely and if that's the case how is it possible that the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years ago made that of were not in the if based on the and even if you don't want to act you want to come on to which you could I guess but at the same time it's So in it is so how is it possible and this is a very very very big problem. Now yesterday we mentioned that the most obvious hat is the and we said we're not going to talk about it but I just want to mention the words of the and then not talk about it. So is ofenart it's in and says the following. He says if a person has stamped once it's already after because maybe it's from the previous year and even if it's from this year. So even though it's from the new crop but maybe the came before the carbon which would also mean that it's from the previous year. So said the Rama that if a person would have stam 16th century just to frame it a little bit is saying that if you have I wouldn't worry about it and the reason is because again what's the maybe it's from the year and even if it's from the current crop but even within the current crop maybe the happened before the and not holding it the now but that would be enough for it to not be treated But says, "But if this fool that you know for sure even came after the said that for a lot of situations there would be an and the you could be." Now the truth is like this that this is really a very hard to understand the to understand. It sounds like it's one suffic maybe it's not maybe it's from before if it's before cuz it's from last year's crop or it's from before cuz it's this year's crap but the of this year's crop came before doesn't care which crop it is. Allah cares about is when that's the that's all we care about. So why are you treating it like fake is be one suffic another big problem that the deal with asks the is that we know that the only time you can rely on and is only if it's a but we're not and all these things are just wait until the next and you're not going to have a problem anymore at that point you'll be able to eat it but the trying to be said that Stamped is not something I would worry about and this is something that people are on. It doesn't work for everything but for it could work based on this of there being a a spec but the wanted to be of this really for all situations and not only for some which the Rama helps us for because the was not. So even though the rama made it like but at the same time there are a lot of situations where it wasn't going to help and as a result what are you supposed to do we mentioned very very quickly and we'll mention again even quicker the three that you find here on the side of the first is the taz the he said that even though they really were primarily based on the mission that says and being that in addition to that you also have a because you have the so what you're dealing with is now what's depends which is first like then the knocks out the said that I think the held that it was a suffic which came first How you supposed to know was the Mishna first and then the kaducian or was the kaducian first and then the now be that they weren't sure they said you have to treat it like but at the same time it was only if it's a you could be and where we live today it' be a if we were going to be and therefore we're being we're going like the that's where the grace of comes from that's what the said so the had a tremendous to be able to say something like this but this is something that only helps for now it's rather interesting because the never mentioned the other which was to say that should only be. So really if you want to play the game you have the you have that's not and then you have which is but also based on the is only awesome. One of the interesting in that play out in the pages and countless countless truas that were written on this topic is is when you have conflicting. So one of the when it comes to inabs is which is the now how would you even know how to go about something like that? So the maka is that's mentioned is always going to be more accurate and is going to carry more weight than will that's mentioned. So for example, we talk a lot in the raid about how this is tucked away, right? So you could be learning and there's a very important that that's in talked away. Tucked away makes it more but it makes it actually a little bit less reliable when it comes to so there was a big fight. Where is the for taught us the laws of is the we don't have right so is the so maybe that's where it belongs so we're learning and over there I'm telling you about that's the that's where you should have taught you or maybe no maybe the you talk about And the came to be which was and it had to be maybe that's and it could be that the and the held that the to teach me the laws of would have been our law said the to teach me this is and that's the it's just fascinating how kolsak really really play itself out always but frat in this but the bottom line is that you have the first which is the of the task. The second eight is the M of who brings from one of the early who's quoted in from the Rottenberg who said that it is like okay but it's but he said that just like you find that but only you shouldn't be between hees was the same way yesterday we mentioned Shakazar's but the bottom line is that the eight of the is that it's only an issue if you're close to maybe BL was considered closer to but today where we're living that's not an issue and because it's not an issue this is not something you'd have to worry about that is a huge huge and certainly if you're willing to be on this and on this this is of on of but that's not the that people the people is the third if you count the fourth and that is the the who in his on the side of the tour said that he had an when he was learning he says 30 years ago and I was see it to the to the prag and nobody had anything to say to contradict my that I And based on we could be of what was this eight so what was the said that it's true and by the way people don't cap this the is that is he goes with the he goes with he goes with the but he says have a different and the is that is only if it is the of but if it's the of a n Now the reason this is such a bigish is because it's who learned it up in aurish here in we spoke about that already yesterday but the felt that is only in if it's from aid not if it's from a guy and because of that the said now it only works if you talk of buying it from a guy most issues today are if you're buying it from an hoodi but it only works if you're buying it from a guy if you're buying it from it's not going to work. And the B double down on this. He said it's to get up and say that this is a problem. And even that wants to someone that's everyone knows he's on a person like him could be but other than that it's even for the to get up and to say that this is a problem this is going to be an issue. So we mentioned yesterday that when the Bach wrote his pish on the tour and this became famous said it was a very very big and a lot of the wrote against the that you want to be that's one thing but to take it to the level and say that it's from to say that it's when the says it's when the said it's when the rift said it's when the said it's and there so many other so in this way and you're going to go to that length and to say that's to go and say that and not just that your whole is based on going to and what might be a shi this is something that's very very hard to accept and the Bach was given a very very hard time as he's mal himself and his tru we mentioned one of them yesterday in But the bottom line is is that this was something that was really really So this is really where we ended yesterday the and some of the so what's la just want to mention a few things. The first is the guy. So the beer hag of an arts right here. He brings the whole if you go through this beer. It's not all the we didn't speak out everything obviously but but it's everything they say. So the rush the goes through the whole he brings the mur to the a little bit of the and then he says that he saw that there are people that tried finding gates and he starts going through it. I'm going to skip a little bit. So the that's who he's commenting on said over in the name of the that right the who holds that is not says the going all the says the And the shouldn't have even called the he should have been quiet over here. This is what the said. It's interesting when I saw this guy, it reminded me of another of the I looked it up. It's the same exact the when it comes to and all the he type of right the incomment. the the so he brings the ra the whole of the then he says quote they hit the ra already and then he says that the rama was from the philosophy you do not but same exact from the go he SAYS IT ABOUT THIS AND HE SAYS IT ABOUT that hit him on the head already and everybody that's interesting from But he said then he brings the and he goes with he says this is what he says about this is what HE SAYS IT'S NOT even worthwhile talking about the taz and then the taz had an he said that it's based on and he knocks OUT THE TAZ HE'S everyone that we thought everyone's feeling good about themselves and he says and not even a right it doesn't have anything knocked everybody out then this is so it's pretty clear what the going is right doesn't sound like the going hell that is if you look in the m and this is in so in of the it says as follows. That's the cotton underline that go. Let's say you have a little bit of let's say someone needs you would have to drink less than a If you have any it'd be no at all said take is of can't tell him if you don't tell him go by you know you know that the only thing here you're not given money to go buy and you're going to be held 100%. He didn't treat it any different than he treates is also and this is the way you have to treat it in the this is from so they bring this is infreb and this is of course going in the way of the soap and was that's what it was it was no different that's The whole emphasis over here he wasn't masking to the bach not to the not to the taz noises from the heel that it's 100% going to be a problem stating that in pland everybody knows that people will make them and I spoke to some of the that I know and really the min was based on two things it was based on adosin that the he was byes. Now if you want a car that was making it's actually mentioned before it's from the it's of course was one of the great and invas in the name of the the context over there is actually they were discussing an estri so there was a certain estrig that was called a kfi that seems like it was a morph morv it came from this place but it was a and there was a whole was a whole whether this is good or it's or it's not good and the says as follows and says that if the was a so that's plates right obviously we could be on He probably that it's not a and there's no question to me that that's what the world that's why there are people that they use even though they're getting involved in because used it that it's not avive and if it's not avive what's the problem says I'll tell you something that I know for a fact. The fact that that's in the house of the used to put on the table because theb said being that his was the and his was m and he wasn't just mate he was mate mate You can't be says if that's the case. It could be that didn't see that the wasn't a could be he knew it was a but he used it anyways. You know why? cuz you know who's the one that was the it's also the and that he went with his TO THE and he said you CAN'T GO THAT'S WHY he's okay with it must be why because he must have seen that it's not a no because I know he was all but the reason he did it was is because he saw not but he saw and he saw who said that he went WITH and was okay since for that reason he's going to hold it's okay as well but says it that's where it comes from so said it's and this is why it is so it's that this is the reason but the iss It's not just the in really in the whole world the min is to be and say a story that was and then one day he decided he's going to do a whether you should be or whether you should be and he did a and in a dream it was to the when the was they cooled off for 40 days and took as a sign that must be that the is and if that's the case the started being and that's what the say over and it's brought down in different that it comes from this dream that the had so I'll tell you showed me yesterday that in the back of the mala so if you have the muk not the vasc but the mala the two volumes at the very very end there's a little section it's called cipurim nices. So there's a story over here. So there's a story that's told and this is about the mala muk who was talking about the bach. So they were contemporaries right they both live together in Poland and they theamukas is saying over mises about the box I'm going to the end of the story I got the beginning of the story it's very very interesting but in so skipping to the end the said over that when the snifter I'll read it inside and he had a big there was a big and there was a big basel that came out from and then there was another cruise that came out said that the Bach is not going to need because the Bach never did one and because he never did an is not going to have to go to so they told the Bach you're going straight into Gan the Bach didn't want to go to Ganed and he said that I don't understand why am I not getting he said because you don't deserve it but he said I'm not comfortable and the reason is because I know there are other sadikim that went to gehenn be but he he was not comfortable to be the one sadic that's not going to go into to ganed to to not go into he was very uncomfortable with it so they made a another they said is there anyone that knows of one that the Bach ever did even if he did a but if there's one a that he did please come tell us because the Bach doesn't want to go to Ganed we're at a stalemate so he's going to have to go to but you can't just put someone in so there has to be a reason for it is anyone that knows anything he knows the was once walking on for your owned and as he's walking in this impressive way. So there was on the whole coming full circle. There was a sh next to a sav. When the saw the coming with this, they got scared. And because of the fright that they had, they walked a little bit. And because they walked a little bit the was from wearing this bridal he was a little bit of an issue for and they put him into for this of albeit they had cooled off the gem. Either way, after the came out and they were and a lot of that were in all of a sudden they were they were able to come out. They were able to leave either way afterwards when the B came into G and they made a very very big rash. And the reason they made a big rash was because he was the one that was and they were him. And they told the THIS WAS A COVER. THEY WERE HIM. They said, "Get up now and give us a" and he said, "She has a long great night." He said for 30 days on the this is the and this is the bottom line is is that in the world of in the world of of the and there's no inkling anywhere in the in the it should be any different than any others and the way it was treated was fullfledged sassur. like we went through a little bit in the world. There was a whole there and there was primarily on the back and the of the it's interesting that when you go through this whole Indian of of so it's very very clear it's very very clear that the and really the started off knowing that was they knew it was mut meaning sometimes and really the intellectually honest way to go through a is to be open-minded and to say that I'm going to go through the sa know we're going to figure out is it Mut or is it us the back did not go through it that way it's clear he went through it with Nas I think he knew it was Mut and the reason he knew it was Mut was because he had seen by Sadikim that they were and if Sadikim were it meant that they saw by and we know the says so he knew it wasn't possible that the and all these were being in something that's also he knew it was how did he know he had not and he didn't have and not and this wasn't he knew the so often quoted that was his and that's the less the question is why okay so the came up with an he was to and they were okay with it. The go says but the bottom line is said that he was the guy looked at it differently. The guy said it's says what he says by what he says by it's the same thing. So what are you going to do if it's two different is two different ways of looking at it. We didn't finish by the way. So maybe we'll do a part three now. We left we spoke about the med of the we spoke about the medish of the what did we leave on the table of that will be the next raid