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Today's d is and we are at the mishna at the very top of today's being learned and so we're moving along in the 13th parag and we're discussing the in the for somebody to take caution and shacked it outside of the azara or for somebody to take the baser the amim of a carbon and to be mocked it outside of the azar the it doesn't matter if the or if the kachch were ple however it was a that's known as it's a soul that happened when the carbon was already in the if a person went and he was that outside of the he's going to be the second of the if somebody would take that's made up of and of and he would now be the is this person would be for what it is that He did. So there's two parts of the Mishna. There's a there's a and we are going to be the what was the ratio of the laws of relate to that's has no or it can even relate to that's as long as the that's ple was. So what does this mean? So the is going to bring a B that's going to elaborate on this but the underlying principle of the BC is something that we already know. It's the and that is the Torah says that a person's not allowed to take and be mid outside of the Azor because the place that you're supposed to be m of the kachum is in the azara. In fact, the Torah says that the reason the person who brought a carbon did something wrong is because he didn't bring it into the oil, he didn't do with it what you were supposed to do with it. Cuz I learned from there that the only time a person is is if it was a carbon that if he wanted to bring into the and he wanted to bring it as a carbon, he could have. If however somebody would be that even if he wanted to bring in he would not have been able to where he couldn't bring in that even if he brings he's not going to be of course it's for that reason the Mishna says that the laws of at the end of the day if you make a summation of all of what you're going to find out it's two categories of carbon it's carbon that's easy a carbon that's kasha you can bring to thus if you're going to bring you're going to be over there. Additionally, it's what's the significance of that's the answer is it's a mish that's any that's not to the extent that the den of this is that Like she says in the beginning of that means on some level it is included to it has a to and if that's the case it too is going to be subject to the laws of what will not be subject again only that's possible it's even it has no Well, if that's the case, it's missing on the most basic criteria of the laws of and as a result, it will not be subject to the said is going to bring a that's going to give us the and elaborate a little bit on it. We learned in a so regarding says says the most take out the words from the fact that the Torah says you would think that the laws of only how do you know it's of the carbon or theim of other now what other are there says we just said and what other could there be a but doesn't have. So what other could there be? So if you look at Rashi says these was a that too was that's the only other thing that it could be coming to include or that could be how do you know that's also included it says so it's not only it's true for All is how do you know all these other carbon that are not that but they do have demon have some form of on them in the how do you know that if somebody would go ahead and be the says and we learn from anything that has a den to be brought into the if you would bring you would be says the price of I would know only that has a thus if you are how do you know something that's possible that bring what's an example of also known as pigle Or if did the vizu right what's that known as that's the right how do you know all those things now these are all different they're all right so how do you know all these that them too if you would go ahead and you would It says and we learn from here anything that's subject to the is going to be included in this Rashi explains very says that the reason we needed a separate of to include in the laws of the and you couldn't include it from it's Because that's possible, you're not allowed to bring it to the so of can't be with stating that once it's in and it's even on now there's a to go ahead and be a so I would know all types of things that could go into it but I would never know something that's poss It doesn't even have to be subject to be able to be brought in. as long as when it's in it's subject to that's enough for it to be included right now in the of so essentially if you go through the there's really four words or phrases in this that gives us the global of okay that's from I learned things that have a even if it's not an orim and from the fact that the terrorist said not just but the word I learned from there that even something that doesn't have a D to come in you're not allowed to bring it in but at the same time once it's in and it's on the at that point there's going to be that too would be enough for it to be included that's how I get of the you're going So we said that we're going to go through this. Here's the if somebody would take a little bit of a little bit of and he would be if you look at the says so just to keep the case simple and straightforward. So if somebody would take a half a of an and he would take half a zas of and he would go ahead and he would be he would bear it sounds from the it's only with opposed to and it's not going to be this subtlety this nuance this inference this is supports something That's and it's with regards to so if an isle or it's or it's and somebody would eat a half a of it would be but the bottom line is that this is that it's where it's That's additionally. So let's just speak out about what the Gar is going to read in a ven in one second and that is what would be the difference between an answer is it's 101 in all the bus of the has a to be burnt on the bus it's as a result really the busim you would think is you even have to know where it's that within because you would think is just part of the bus that has a den of kalo It should all be burnt on the but the point is is that when it comes to the the and the are really part of the same it's it's all the same when it comes to for example so the was eaten and theim were burnt on the so it makes a lot of sense if somebody would be milo and of why because the head to be brought in the and to be burned and the to be put on the to be burnt. You took of something that was supposed to go on the and be burnt and you didn't burn it. You're going to be But when it comes to Yeah. That was supposed to go on and be burnt. But you were supposed to eat make a sandwich from it. That's what you were supposed to do with it. There's no den to go ahead and to put it on the m. So if you're going to go ahead and you're going to be mocked with you weren't and as a result you're not so that's uh very very posit and that's the first part of this price said that's additionally let's see the analysis of the price as it relates to Allah I understand as it relates to the being that it's called the both have to go on. So therefore is no different than aim that's part why you as opposed to the where only but don't go on the but as relates to why is there a difference between the and the is that just like the by the should also bear meaning just to be clear if you have a carbon That's pickle. You had a mash is pickle. Whatever the mash was right now the carbon's pickle. If somebody eats a what we're saying is that if it's aim and you eat a half of and a half of says I don't know why besides say not only my time it's really that you are says and if that's the case we have a piggle. We have a steer. So it's not just my time. It's more than that. It's a a pickles. So why is it that when it comes to the carbon the half of his is not going to be it's not so says as it relates to the ste of it's not again what's the from the it sounds like from the it says the says when the says if somebody goes ahead and he eats a kaz of baser of a carbon pickle it Doesn't matter if you half a boss or half of or a full z or a full of you're always going to be and it's true for it's also true for and that's what the means when it says when we make a from the that is but when it comes to it's not the pickle what does it mean pickle machev's pickle we know is manifest in aon and ailas That means if someone has a to if someone has a to be able what would be if somebody has a to eat a half as a and to be half as of would it be or would it not bearish that it's not going to bear so pigar says as it relates to that's regards to someone who ate the pickle as it relates to the fact that the that's on the level of the and by the way the of why it's not pickles are grassy is very because has to be a a real thing a rational thing if you had a to eat half and and to eat half of well you had a mighty half of something that doesn't have and if you had a mind to be a half of and to be half of on the half of that's a proper but on the half of that's nothing that's not going to be and to have a that I'm going to be half his eyes and eat a half of his eyes. So the bottom line is it's on the levels up. It's a long but once I have a pickle I establish the pickle. I eat half of this half of that. That's one is talking about the of the eating it. And the other one's talking about the What about the right? What's the stero? And then we have as well. So says that's not either a what does that mean? The says that's the same as the so I have add half to this add half to that half plus a half equals one. you ate a as a result you're now going to be high of course when the seems to suggest that only but not that's talking about soar is going to explain this a little bit let's explain about p first and that is the case is talking about where somebody was bringing a carpet and then the buser got lost and the immortim got lost and what he was left with was a half Zas bosser and a half a zas of amur. If the whole catchment over here then went ahead and he did a zur then the boser became noiser. The question is is it going to be considered noiser or is it not going to be considered noiser? Baser and Murim are mitarif technically for but what's unique about this case was is that at the time that the co did the all he had was this halfas of bos and this half as of a murin and the question is is the halfas of boser and the halfas of a murin mitarif is it mitarif to say that I had a kazas for the to be a good to say that Now that this was after this it's going to be so there's a few pieces of that this presupposes we already know one it's going to speak out and that is we know whether or not a there's no bosser holds but holds just like a boser so there has to be a kazayer in order for to be another is that in order to have no you have to have Rashi says that it's learned out from the earlier in the just like right you have to do so is only you have to do so the question over here is is what would be if I had a halfas of I had a half aas of you went ahead and did then it was and then somebody went ahead and ate from it so is it going to bear now these two half as to say that he ate noer or not and really what it's going beian is whether it's even which itself is going to be whether or not the was so to speak whether this was which itself is and that's the next line says you want to know who the of the carbon that you have a leftover of you could This is what we need. You can't do a you have to have a but you can't bear a half and a half when it comes to and the reason is with nature because the whole thing is said you shouldn't go ahead and do that then when it comes to the even if the whole thing is still we're talking There's no it's referring to the right that was the that came together with the carbon. There was a concept of a that came together with a carbon known as that required first there would have been that maybe if you have the remaining that's enough to satisfy Yeshua's criteria of you have to have and not just that you have to have but the bottom line is that if that's the curse if that's what you had and you went in and did his and then it became noiser it would not be considered nicer and that's what we mean that when it comes to the being that are as opposed to when it comes to the it's not this is that and it's for that reason that would be the moving along to the next theus So we just mentioned a whole bunch of things that had a what do they all have in common? They're all not right. So is part of a is part of a part of him also was these are all different types of If somebody would go would take a of one of these things and would be and this is based on the B that we saw right at the beginning of the we learn meaning even though in the it says so you would have thought it's only a right even was for a half a second only but at the end of the day we were mar all types of so If somebody takes from one of them and he's going to be we'll go says no that if somebody would only take a of these things and it would be he wouldn't be you would have to be of the entire ship tomorrow is going to talk a lot about as it relates to all these things if somebody would go and be he would leave over that then everybody agrees you're going to be meaning as much as a holds that if you're only that's if you have the whole share and I just took a of it I was mocked you only if I'm mocked the whole share but let's say the kaz that I was mocked is the last surviving kazayas because the rest of it I was m already. So I was already m of everything. I have a left. If I go ahead and I'm even is going to be that is that you're going to be another says that everybody agrees on the cool in the event that you would have one of the affforementioned things and a little of it became it went gone burnt it's missing they and then you would take the rest of it the balance and you' be you would be and the reason you be is because once it's a little bit now it's so now we're ready it's not something that and being that it's not something that so it's for that reason it's going to be excluded from the laws of the last is says the case is where the and the were attached to each other is going to talk about this in tomorrow's either way so this Mishna was very much in continuation from the previous Mishna the Previous Mishna said that the is if someone is m any type of carbon it doesn't matter what it is as long as it's or even if it's pos if it's but if it's a member of a and you go ahead and you're going to be what about things that had to be burnt on the so then already there's a according to everybody you're but the question is how much of it would you have to be would you have to be in order to according to the as long as you soas of any one of the that you bear you would have to be the entire thing. Now everybody agrees if you already m everything but the kaz that you'll be for the gaz. Additionally everybody agrees that if part of it was and then you m the kazayas even if you m everything you're going to be potter the sh is where I have the full share. I only went and I was maz of it. The question is am I going to be or am I not going to be now if you take a look there's some long rashies over here in the Mishna. Just want to mention two horses that rashi speaks out before we start the gumar. The first is Rashi really quoting a on the bottom of the it says that the premise for this between the or you have to be the entire it's based on the fact that the says and from the words it sounds like you have to do it you have to bring the whole thing what's it what is the whole thing is the whole thing the whole thing or is the whole thing Rashi adds then notice there was no rebel in the up until this Mishna for example the previous Mishna which was talking about all the different types of that you would be for there's no mention of the only time is if you all or you take every last piece of Ber of this and you burn it on says it's that when it comes to what's this photo because for sure the when it comes to of is a sh really is how you when it comes to the or the or the all the other that's what's going on over here. Again the shil is not or everything the shil is how do you tight and that's why when it comes to there's no because everybody agrees is there always and that's going to be the as relates to hence no where we have the by the begets this either says adds the words. Now whether you add the word katyus or don't add the word katyus is from the havana perspective irrelevant because regardless the b is talking about is say the word kyus and the there'll be a giveaway in one second that we're talking about but someone's if somebody that's the giveaway right because what was the sheer of right it was a it was a pro so somebody would go ahead and it would be mati He would be let's just uh meditate on this Bryce for a second. Bryce has a like all funes do it sounds like right means the whole thing. Okay, fine. Additionally, somebody takes a half a beter. would seem to be the wrong word. You want to clar Shila where the shear of is a PR and you only did a half a PR. Did you get it right? Did you get it wrong? Good. You weren't yelled. I don't know. But putter putter suggests that you did something wrong but potter right is a warning. Next time you're in big trouble. So the gammorra says this is really the the pes to this right very often when the gmorrah works with a bry it's because there's something in the bryer that's sum the mishnayas were edited much more properly than the braces were and as a result sometimes there's something that just needed the work and dam in real time are giving us uh behind the scenes access to how they're rolling their sleeves up and how they're thinking and how they're going about it. So over here what's causing this no right the topic of today's lecture is going to be how do we understand the words of the quote unquote the infamous right how do we make sense of those words it doesn't make sense so went to it for the first time they thought my potter probably what it means is now we're a regular who's the one that's doing Right. It's talking about where you have someone coming to do the who's not allowed to do the he's a friend. He's not supposed to do it. Okay. But here's the good news, right? That's the bad news. But thankfully for him, all he did was so he's a pussle but he's also right doesn't know the so he only did the wrong thing. So because that goes ahead and brings the is not but being that he only did a press for that reason. That was the but says that didn't understand it as long as he did a even if he did a press he should be why because of the ratio of the ratio of the what do you see from there that a kaz is a share of how you know is a because the only time is if it was it has to be that makes it It means it's why should it be this is what was bothering said in the name of in the name of the name of trace itself all the way back to the great he says no didn't understand properly my you know what means means the potter from having to go ahead and bring another and the reason is because they were yak the safe of the bryer Why? What happened to a because all you have to really bring is and that's by the way that that would bring a even though it says in the potter they wouldn't have to bring another one speaks out that if that's in the bra then you have to say it's not it's really it's all about and really even though it's not press potter you're going to be protest either way heard the among my they couldn't understand cup is feast they couldn't understand the ration to the safe of the bra so he said that told me in the name of who told me in the name of my if that's the case it's all good but then said but the truth is even according to the messiah that I had from the great we still have a problem it's a different problem but a problem nonetheless I'm razash I'm going to tell you what's wrong with my what's bothering me because I heard something else in the name of a second comment that made on this price and that was as it relates to this of even is going to be so understood means and then he said that even which in the mish that says if someone's milo is that he's going to be potter but he's that would go ahead and do he would be and said that's not something I could understand the mission said that if you do why because it's not so it's not so if it's not then how could it be so racial is safe I don't have But I have a on a comment that Ra made on the with the Rav's comment on the Bryer was that even that if somebody is Milo is he's going to be potter but if the would bring the would be if the would be then if you do it's a you in a bad way. I don't understand ra's comment on the bra and really to answer this we're going to see from here until the two dots which are 10 lines from the top of the is going to bring three different the first one is said as follows let's just be mock them for 30 seconds and that is you're going to have to say that in the Mishna holds that if someone's not a and the bright the way suggested is going to hold that if someone's maz of it's going to be a good which means you're going to be meaning you have to say that the two rebels are somehow true. There's a there's a rebel in the world that requires a clar and there's a rebel in the world that holds that it doesn't require a cliche in the Mishna reba holds it requires the full share and in the bay holds it doesn't require the full share and how could you make sense of that so without even looking if you cover the somebody asks you now 108 days into how is it possible that the rebel that holds that requires a share and the rebel holder doesn't require a share what's the Sir, there were two Tyruses, right? There was the Tyrus that was brought every single day twice and then there was the special Tyrus that was brought in and all the are on some level going to work with that a little bit. That's the that's the there's a little bit of an eight. So, because of the fact that we know there were two goes first, it's going to be a and goes first. He said the as it relates to the of the also known as theus of the that was born every single day in the ple with regards to that there's no what does it mean there's no with regards to that as we have to hold that if you would do a you would be and if the would do they would also be it have to has to be but even if it's not a full pro that's going to be okay they're going to be meaning the point is is that there's going to be no and that's what Rav meant when he commented on the he said that because this is talking about and of everybody agrees and you want to know why everybody agrees because there's no shar Now speaks out. There's no sh of course is a sh there has to be a price. Rash's it's a lotion that's not it's not and being that that is not a that's so it's for that reason you're gonna have an issue where is that was done not that was done the one that was done and that was the is a different shear It's and being that it has to be you got better get the whole and if you don't get the whole then it's nothing therefore it's not a it's not going to be a problem and therefore as long as you do you do that in of itself is going to be okay in other words in the says that the whole was talking about the rebelzar in the bra or the Bryer that ra said signed on that is talking about of the really had no just to make one thing clear I think it's obvious but just for the sake of uh lack of ambiguity so the said when we said on the second part of the it's not just the second half of the it's the Right? We almost couldn't say it on the first part of the Bria. You can't say because said in the but now that we understand we're talking about two different types of so for sure the whole the cup and feast. So the which of which of the you're going to be because there's no share potter in fact if the would bring not really they would fulfill their obligation and they would be in the arguing about that's already an underart because either way that was rais only but told rabbis it comes out according to you what is essentially the between it's whether the of he told them it can't be you know why there's one that it says the word by and that's the and we know the word always means that's why everything in because it says but it says it not by Right. That's where it says it. So for sure for sure of the is going to be there's no way there's between and with regards to that. It can't be there's no such thing. And if that's the case your whole falls off. We have to revisit this. Shila said, "Let me tell you the answer to the stra in raza." Rashi speaks out that Abaya was going to work with the not was is going to work with the of and that is that the way to reconcile the stero is that talking about two differentes is talking about the terus of keer and the price is talking about the that's the let's go backwards as it relates to it's exactly where cut and paste rais and be that there's no real share as long as that's enough to be and if the they're going to be part when it comes to the kaz of the which is of now a holds that according to everybody it says so therefore for sure it is going to be which would explain which it would explain the of that's why would hold that if you not going to be who needs to be explained the of the rabbis said hold that is not can't live with that. So for sure they hold it. So if it's why would you be if you're only comes in and he says as follows and this is very very tricky because the word over here means of the that was done in the meaning over there everybody agrees everybody agrees that you is if you would take the which is supposed to go and instead you would bring it and you did only a would you be or not that you learn what does Rashi say? So says this is so here the change over here means the of the first is the which is the one that was outside of the which was the what's the just like of the foray so to the of the you're also going to be now really it shouldn't be that way. It doesn't make any sense because what motivates what drives whether or not you're on or you need a bigger share or a smaller share. It's what is it's what the is in terms of when you're going to do a stating THAT the of the of is the same as the of regards to the of meaning and just like when it comes TO THE BECAUSE THAT is the so too when it comes to the of even though and the last but over here it's going to be different says I don't know what you're talking about what kind each one you have to view individually and over there the last is a over here the last is going to be so with this is tricky the is not tricky that what's tricky is what's what's and what's right this is all one big maybe that would help but either way this is a little bit confusing but the isaldi the point is everybody holds that when it comes to the there's no and that's why you're going to be and if the does they're going to be potter everybody holds that when it comes to the and if you were doing it that would be the sh is when you do the in what's the whether whether We learn the laws of the of the laws of the with regards to what the is. That's what the iss don't learn. I don't think for sure they're going to learn what does he even mean? says the time you learn you would think if someone's or if somebody would be he would pour less than three that's the minimum of that or less than three that was the ones yeah you would think if somebody does less than the share he would It says right and we learn from here this is the we've been quoting that Rashi quoted in the if you have less than three of the says that if you bring it you're not going to be the it's made up of several yet And don't learn. What do you see from here? You see from here that don't even learn. They don't learn. Let's explain this a little bit better with a little bit of rashes. Number one, the is you're telling me you're telling me that as much as you we always thought that what drives that's what's driving this but it's not always true. It's not always true. There's an idea of because if someone's gonna be of you know why because it's true by the if it's true by the why wouldn't it be true for the there's a new of well if that's the case that should undermine fundamentally and principally the whole I'll give you an example of it take well not every case but so many of the cases Why? Because it's not last why you why it's more than a more than a so you know you should say oh and by the way says you don't even have to say you could say because over here the was all brought by right it wasn't brought in it was brought in and for example or pick something that is a we also to be brought say so you see that you don't make this new business over here that we don't say that we don't say that there's a and that's what drives that's the engine behind all and you have to look at each thing individually not like that there's no when it comes to the right this is the ranch just adds one and that is predicated on the fact that this is the right why does he need it to be raon again we're learning the of the right we should trademark that but we're learning right the words of the is why is he saying that he has to say that because if it's rebel it's not a kasha because rebel in the mishna was not you have a price is the first time you ever learn in your life. Maybe the bra is going but according to the learn maybe they would know that I know for sure this is not you know I know that because the said sounds like if it was a but because it's you're not going to be according The is not a is the and depending on the size of the that's how much you have to bring right that was the first case in a so from the fact that you see in this so I know it's I know this is not it's you're telling me I find that are not even they're not even now we're going to see now the last of the but before this we see the last ter of the let's see if we could be to what's the postcript of the gar so we're going to have one more terrorist and then a postcript if we had to think on our own what's is there aik over here like uh let's try to be between kasha and abas is he wants to learn the from the it's but he holds it's a little bit of We don't EVEN RIGHT. The only they have in common is meat and wine come together, right? But meat and wine come together. But in terms of the two, they're completely unrelated aspects of a carbon. But when it comes to the twoes, maybe they're one and the same. So, you're right. We're not yell when the two are very different. But we even when it's the same, where it's the same at the very end of the Ash is going to say that he's going to come back and say, I think I like and this is the way I can make a bay terrace work. But first, we have to see the third term said I'm going to answer the steer a little bit differently. Again, we're going back to the original kasha. What was the original in the including that is the Bryson said you're going to be and said that it's true has which would seem to suggest that this is a gazir is not the full so came and ra I'm going to tell you a different ter now rashi to rash has a to all three rashi to is that sidishna and sida bryer are talking about the regular kitus, not one is the kitus of and the other one is the which seemed to be the easy way out. The reason Robert doesn't like it is because it seemed to be the easy way out. Right? When we started this, it looked like that's for sure the way out. But there were kulupuri along the way. We stubbed our toe a few times, right? Abaya didn't like didn't like apparently didn't like either. So they're all right now as much as it sounds like of course there's two there's twoes but after further review right doesn't agree. So Raba says that the Mishna and the are both talking about the regular that was brought every day. Okay, then we have right but said I'll tell you what's going on. The Mishna is talking about the where what happened was the took the two half a process. He took a full press and he put it together in one ki. So okay the shear of the is only extra credit. It's not. That's why everybody agrees in the that if you do, you'd be good to go. I mean, bad to go, right? If you did a or if you did aim, good to go. The case is talking about the case of the Mishna where you took the two half and you put them into the same. The question is once you put them into the same mana do we say that now the mana the ki is being that they're living together in the same mis in the same ki now all of a sudden they're bound to each other and now the is them in a way where this is going to be the sh if that's the now declare that if I do maybe I'm going to be out and that is exactly that you didn't have to take the two half a process and put them into the same ki But once you did, it accomplished something. That is the now. So if you're going to take only a now you're going to be potent it didn't change anything and being that it didn't change anything the is what it always was and just like in the if you take you're going to be as well said now that I just said this that this is what I believe is according to who hold that the of is nothing what would be if it was somebody would take six lugan of for a par. So Rashi says that the sheer of the amount of wine that you needed for when you brought a par was a which is six. So if somebody would go ahead and he would take the six that was meant for the and he would take forth from it. And the reason is because it's a good share for an a needed six lugan of yen. The aisle only needed four. So what would be if somebody took six lugan for a par and he put it into a and then he took out from the six four and he was milo there would have been mock to say that you would be because even though being is a but once it was in the six and now all of a sudden you're not so then even if you were if you were Even though it's royal, but the being that it's royal is for that reason. The same would be true if he was if you put four for an took three of it. And the reason is because it's for the only needed three. The point is being that it is a even though it was in a therefore you're still going to be but what would be if it was let's say you had even less than three you're going to be and the reason in that case you're going to be is because there was no that had that was less than three login and being that it was never less than three so that's not it's not anything and even if you don't know it doesn't matter at the end of the day that's not going to be an bottom is just giving like a little con to what he said. According to Rabba the husband is between the man is and he said isn't our mishn if somebody took the full share of and you put it together in you only a half of it or even right the point is is it is not it's not if then it is another would be with regards to all the there's different of the minimum is always three that's for and I needed four appar needed So be if you set aside six for the par you ended up taking four or three is and you did is that going to be a problem is that not going to be a problem if well you didn't do what you see they did it's just another application according to according to this has no that's why they didn't mention it according to that's why he went ahead and he mentioned it either way the last word in today's daf is going to come from the holy mouth of raashi as it so often does raashi is the and he very very often gets the last word in a wordy and in arguash's last word is going to be that three over here in the and I want to go back to I like what said I like mahal that the way to reconcile this between the mission and the price is talking about the keeping the price talking about the and I think that maybe What was the right What was the was from the that it requires at the very least three learned from something that's not with right there's a lot of in the three but the answer is still but when it comes to that they learn even though one is and the other one is either what's the the recap of this last we seem to have a little bit of a in the with regards to regards to someone beh says you're going to be we had a price that said and ra that price is going even coin that's the case we have a steer between we have three mahal that answer this first mal was raiser the price is talking about the of that was b every day that was bored every day didn't have a kua mean that there was no everybody agrees that is that regardless of how much you automatically going to be you're automatically going to in the where we're talking about the hold and hence we have this didn't like it said there's no way this is whether the we know it says means that it's said I'll go with the but I'm going to tweak it a little bit differently I agree the mission is talking about the is talking about the everybody agrees because there's the by the keep it really everybody holds there is a stating that there's still a shating that there's still a sh and the reason there's a sh is because maybe hold that as much as the which would be a by the but the of as it relates to the of the So one from the other the way explain the end of the we learn one from the other and it's for that reason over there that's what the is going to be says okay so therefore you have to look at it individually what's the only time you're going to be is if finally was the last mahalik said that the mishna are talking about the red of the there's no kept going on over here everyone's talking about the terror of the every Thursday and that's why in the BC everybody holds that if and if brings a little bit as long as it's going to be. So what's going on in the why would there be a why would a where they were put together now all of a sudden it got a share and now if you're going to do you're going to be parti Oh, by the way as well. There's other applications for it, but the bottom line is this would be the three and how to reconcile the between and what about raid? That was the first share. That was the share. And we're going to stop here.