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Zevachim 38

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Today's d is and we are about 15 lines from the bottom of the two dots. Today's stops being learned as foru Ben. So yesterday we began the fourth peri in and it begins with B and B regarding the minimum amount of that were with regards to the carbonas that was brought on the me everybody agrees that as it relates to all other carbon that were brought on the only one was everybody agrees that as it relates to the carbon whose dam was brought under that two were the between and in the Mishna was what about a carbon whose dam was brought says that although all carbonas that When it comes to the argues says even the if you did only one keeper is the person is going to get the avoid of yesterday's d the first of the per was figuring out what the source is to this idea that when it comes to allas that were brought in the even if you only did It's going to be enough and the's primary source in the daf was a tucked away in it's invar that says it's evident from many braces that kazal felt that those words in the seem to be superflous obviously there can't be anything extra in the must be it's coming to teach me something that I wouldn't have known from kayim I wouldn't have otherwise known from All the paras and all the sugis that we know related to kachim and according to the t of yesterday's this is coming to teach me says that regarding all the carbon if you do even one despite the fact you're supposed to do more that one is going to be enough for the balac to attain his kap what we saw at the very very end of Yesterday's D was that there's another der amongst the in terms of understanding what the source is that for all carbon whose d was brought in the if you do one that's enough and that is those tan held like that when it comes to the carbonas that was brought only one z was enough and they learned sh carbon from the carbon kas but as we saw at the end of the daft the gar didn't even tell us what bass hills cars and that really segus us right into today's daf. In fact, the mission statement of today's dath well or at least the majority of it is going to be what is the source to the two opinions in our Mishno Bish and regarding the was born where Bi says that despite the fact that when it comes to carbon if you did one mat keeper but when it comes to the carbas you need two B says no just like sh carbon is one when it comes to the carbonas one is enough as Well, it would seem to be a in the of in the that talk about the garb is it that one is enough is a mashma that you would need to do two that is going to be the topic of the majority of today's and on that note what is the bi Bi who said in the Mishno that although when it comes to carbonos if you did one mat keeper but when it comes to the carbon that you have to have two says Rafo that it says in the Torah regarding the par of the word caroise three times. It says carois. It says carois again. And it says carois a third time. And from the fact that the terra mentions the word caro three times. What we learn is that the dam had to be put on six corners of the misbeh. How so? Kus is a lion. Two car again is a lush. Another two. Caris again is a lash and rab. That's another two. If you do the math, what you left is that the is telling you that you have to take the D of the and put it on the six corners of the misb. Right? Can't even say that with a straight face. There weren't six corners on the muzz. There were only four corners on the muzz. Now, to be clear, the Torah is saying that the datas had to go on the corners of the misb. It's one of the uniquenesses of the carbon kas. But the seems to be saying put it on the six corners. You don't have six corners. Says sh I'll tell you how you have to dash in this. all the mitzvah that the Torah is telling you that put it on the four that are there and the extra two mentions of the word is the extra two corners that I mentioned are not the two additional corners that don't exist but rather the is telling you a second time put it on one of the corners and then a second time put it on another one of the corners in other words the is telling you do on the four corners the is also saying you better make sure that you do it at least on to now we know the rule in is so whatever the mentions once is whatever the mentions twice is the essentially told me twice with regards to two of the corners and that's how I formulated their position that when it comes to the caratas it' be that you do two matas what does basil hold caro caro carois it's true it says the word caroise three times but the way basil did the math was not carnis carnis carnis six corners but rather What you're left with is four corners. Now, how does carois which is a lush and rabin which means at the very least two plus carois which is at the very least two plus car which is very least two yield four. Right? That's lousy math. How's 2 + 2 + 2 four? Right? 2 plus 2 plus 2 is six. The answer is that if you look carefully at the words that are mentioned in the tra only one time does the tyra write the word car mle. Two of the times the Tyra writes the word and being that the Tyra writes the word basil holds the way you're supposed to dion the word when it comes to the math is not as if the is telling you unto but being that it's written it's as if the is telling you one and then the other car which is another one and then the car that's malle is two but the point is it's not 2 plus 2 plus two it's 1 plus 1 plus 2 1 plus 1 plus two That's good math. Then the number that you're going to end up with is four. So according to Biso, what you're left with is six. According to Bis, what you're left with is four. Okay. So what's the according to B? The T is telling you put it on the four corners. This is the way you dash it. Three of the four that the mentions are and the fourth one the telling you is supposed to be but the says how do you come up with that? Like what is even the methodology for that? If the terror says four corners and there are four corners on the so it sounds to me like the terror is telling you put one on each corner there's no at all because the terror didn't mention anything a second time and if that's the case maybe what the terror is saying is do the on each one of the corners I don't know maybe you don't even have to do anything and bas know that you have to do at least one right if the methodology again is so yeah in B's world it's there's six four mitzvah two are mentioned that's the end of but according to maybe you shouldn't have to do anything twice but the says that's not an option because there's no such thing as getting for nothing so for sure you're going to have to do at least one now if there was a reason to think you have to do more than one then but according to there is no reason to think that you have to do more than one and it's for that reason the Tyra says is for all the mitzvah. You want to know how I know that at least one is because and the is what is there's no way in the world you're getting without doing at least one. That's how I know according to Bul one is going to be. So according to B sh the you have to do at least two when it comes to is the fact that it says caro four mitzvah according to it's the fact that it says all four but I know for sure you have to do at least one because now before we go what's in the between whether you count six or you counters kindness kindness for I mean which one is it? Is it six or is it four says you read it it's kind of basil says I hear but look at the way it's written twice it's written so it's kind of and only one of the so of course this is part and parcel of a very global one of the in the which we know from learning comes up in many different places and really permeates the short is when you have a word based on the way it's written you would think that the word is suggesting one thing but based on the way it's pronounced you would think it's suggesting something else. The dash in the word based on the way it's written with the word based on the way it's pronounced. It would seem that the is between is says car is each one of the decrees of the of the word says as the result 2 plus 2 plus 2 equals six. That's how he comes up with his when it comes to two is going to be mak whereas bas says look at the way it's written that two of them are written that's why it's 1 plus 1 equals two that's comes to his that only one is going to be but at first glance it would seem that the between it's not just a regarding how many you have to do with the was born but it's actually a derivative of a very very gold which when you go through the messiah is by the way we're going to get a smattering of it in today's DA. But when you go through it more thoroughly, it's something that ties into literally each one of the shisha, right? It it covers uh an incredible amount of ground. This is here would seem to be a sif in that general. But the way that's the first in the between says alternatively you can say one is that when it comes to only one is because holds meaning in the first in the bil what does shame what does hold shameus the is being a new way to look at it it could be that b holds that whenever there's a tension between the mikra and what you do is you negotiate. You cut the baby in half. That's what you do in a situation. And Bul holds that mikra that being that the mikra is suggesting one thing you have to give it some uh ways. But then again, being that the Msus is suggesting something, you have to veer to it as well. Honey, we go bust a to say at least one more. Msus and the Msus is going to have to be being that the Mikra is suggesting six and the Msirus is suggesting four. So this is just the Gmorra's way of saying that we compromise and we say it's going to end up being five. So yeah, if all you had was the Msirus, it would be four mikra that it's going to be one more. It's going to end up being five. And if all you had was the micro beanus to make it one less to end up making it five. But the bottom line is there's this tension. We have to make a negotiation. We have to make between the mik and the and the way you do it is you cut it and therefore we end up with the five. Oh, you end up with five. That's what is four and meaning the first of the all we had was four. How do you know that one is it was based on you actually have regarding that one? Where do you have it? It's the negotiation. It's this. It's this compromise between the and the but says that this has to be fact checked a little bit because you're basically telling me there's a new and it's no less that every time you have a struggle between the what you do is you're making says the let's try to visit some of the famous and let's see if this holds true. So where does it say in the para of right now we know that there are four or four par in the how do we know that so according to one mand it's learned out from the fact that it says tough it says it three times two times it's mentioned one times it's mentioned malle 1 plus 1 plus two that's how you end up with four now that's only true really if you hold the limitus if you hold the limit that even though two of the latences are written but all of them all three of them are pronounced Molly and that would suggest that there should be six but the assumption for the minute is that the reason there's four parish in the is probably because what's the catch let's speak it out outside but if you're going to tell me that you dispire is that you negotiate and you compromise and Well, if that's the case, then how many P should be in the T? There should be five because he should you should say four says six. You should end up with five, right? No one ever heard of that says the you should end up with five. So the gar says it's true if the that this four paraches in the would be based on the fact that it would be because of counting thees in the word you would end up with five but has no rather the reason holds that there's four parishes in the filling is for a whole completely different reason it's based on something famously said very famous to Omar who said we once thought that could be this is related to the fact was always traveling. So the traveler was familiar with languages. So he was in heard the word and it means to and then he was in Afr and he heard the word which usually means bread but he heard that it means two. So maybe that's the way we need five par that is not the issue you have the same anomaly that two times the Tyra mentions the word basukasser and one time it mentions it molly. Now the Mar is suggesting now that the amount of walls that a suka has to have is probably learned out from the amount of basukoes that those three words yield. Now how many wolves do they yield? Well, it depends if you go based on the mess. So two of them are mentioned and one's mentioned mole. 1 plus 1 plus 2 equals four. If you go based on the mikra, then it's all mole. then you would end up with six which is a little bit of a problem but the bottom line is that the holds that based on the same understanding is that every time you have again this tension between but you end up with this five so why don't we say every should have to be made up of five walls it should be a pentagon right that's what it should look like it should have to have five walls so the says it's true and The Gomorra is accepting that that really bas means five walls stating that not all the mentions of the basukas meaning not all the numbers that come out of basukas can be used to tell me the amount of walls over there one of the things that come from I need to teach me the another one is coming to teach me this well if that's the case how many do I started with five and five because of this I started with five but I minus two immediately So I'm left with how many? I'm left with three. And even within the three, this is already a we know there's that says that the last wall, whatever number that is, that last wall could be even aesthetized wall and all you need it to be is a but says the fact that a suka has to be made up according to basil anyways of three walls, two proper walls and one even not a proper wall could be is learned out from the minion how walls that come out from bases two of them were not can't be used what you're left with is only three and that's how you end up with three but it's true it actually is consistent with this idea that holds that every time what we do is we do some asks one last it says in the now where does it say this this is talking about this who gives birth to ana. So we know that uh yus that gives birth to a zak was to for seven days. What about ana? So the Tyra says, the Tyra says that she should be T for two weeks stating that if you look at the way the word is written, it's written and based on that you would think if you didn't have that you're supposed to read it. The reason we say is because is that you take the difference between the and the cut it in half. Well, over here the math, this is a drop trickier, but the way the math would play itself out is that based on the luma, it would be 14. Based on the it would be 70. So you have to take now the difference between 70 and 14. The does the math so it's fine. Says the we should say so should be for 42 days. That's what should come out. But the Gmorrah says true based on the simple lumbness of that is what would come out but over there the next word in the is anda teaches me that it's two weeks and it's not 42 days which is back of the envelope arithmetic that's six weeks right and rashi says that the isid is tummy seven days right that's she's tummy for seven days kin sounds like it's an amount of time that's similar to rash says two things number what he does one week and he does it this would be two weeks but also just even the amount of days is 14 is similar to seven as opposed to 42 that's a whole another number from the fact that the terrorist has kin dosa that's why knew that over here you have to dash in only the here you don't dash in at all but if you didn't have aurish that this is the way you're supposed to dash in it the way you would is you would make a compromise the bottom line is let's come off a breath for one second holds cares also holds that's why four of the arevah two of them are mentioned that's how you know two are going to be what is bas hold either b holds if that's the case being that two of them are written all four are being mentioned didn't even mention one but That's why I know at the bare minimum one would be which is doesn't hold it he doesn't hold the but rather he holds you compromise between the so the way you treat one as if the terror said five the terror said five there's only four ko so what the terra is telling you is four mitzvah and one of one that's how you're going to end up with that one being the critical one says the gar. So we have two so far to understand says there's a third the following the tana that we're going to present he learned it from this it says it says in the word three times now these three mentions of the word are mentioned regarding the now we don't need to really go into this now but we know from learning Not so long ago that the parish in the is very unique talks about the the even within the the could bring either a kispa or each one is delineated individually in the if you look inside these three one is mentioned by the katas of the other two are mentioned by the regular good old fashioned albeit one by the kispa the other one by the either way Three times the Torah mentions says the we need all three of these because I would have thought it says it says what does it mean? certain that went and there certain such as that went you could have thought it just like as it relates to if you did one mat alone keeper how do I know that that's yesterday's keepers you would think that when it comes to the it should be the same thing but there's another way to look at it there are certain that went and there are certain that went you could think just like when it comes to the over there you have to do all this so when it comes to the put there too if you one of the it should be nothing in other words the is a little trickier whether or not you should learn it from because maybe you should learn it from the that was put in and by the put in the there all the like the Mishna said so you could have thought that the was born to all the would be it says the Bryson so if we're going to have to figure out should I compare the that was put on the sign to the other that were on the Right. Well, then one would be enough. Or maybe I should compare it to the itself that was put on where all the were. So says the price. Do we say that the commonality between the was and the other put on is stronger because it's and therefore I'm not going to learn the from the because I'd rather say the are the same that's their right number one and number two is the same not one is the same. They're both in the which is not number one said it doesn't involve the right like the Bryson said. So this is all the time that the Bryson talk coming to the punch line. So it's for that reason because the Tyra knew we were going to be confused. We were going to have this stalemate. We were mamish not going to know how to go about this. We we're going to be unsure and uncertain whether when it comes to the that was put on the should we compare it to the other dham that were put on the where one is going to be enough see yesterday's d or should we compare it to the dham that was put on the all the see the coming so we we're going to be unsure we're stuck between these two do I'M NOT SURE WHERE TO PUT THE d that was put on the it's for that reason the terror said the ter wrote the word extra three times to teach me. You should know you're going to get even if you didn't do everything you was supposed to get. You're going to get even if you only did two. You're going to get you're going to get even if you only did one. And that's help. So who knows that one is going to be enough cuz it says three times and each is one from being the says four only three if it's two if it's even one. Oh that's the whole is predicated on the word being extra. How's extra? Tyra says do what you have to do. You're going to get if the Torah would say maybe you wouldn't know you got said as let me tell you the way it was explained to me by it says in the also saysap and are really one in the same and being that the one and the same in the anyway says so therefore the word actually is extra again why is it extra because it says andl mean the exact same thing what does coming to teach memory explained it very nicely and this you want to say is a I'll accept the Josh I don't think it's a you know why because even if you want to tell me that is coming to be it's coming to say something I would have thought is really not but it's a leap of faith to say that is saying that there are certain that are not at all. Maybe we should say maybe what the is coming to say is that although was supposed to have four on the four car but maybe the is saying that even if he only did three on the car he only did three lo by the way it's of that the dam goes right that's always more but maybe what The is saying is that you're going to get even if you didn't do three or you didn't do four you only did three did one you're going to get the second says that even if you didn't do three on top you only did two on top and then finally maybe the third is coming to teach me that even if you didn't do anything you did all them that you're going to get so says the even if you want to assume the premise of this Joshua that is coming to be but is coming to tell me that these these are not at all maybe they are but all the is saying with is that they're not to be and essentially what the Torah is saying is that if you want it to be all that's going to be fine if you didn't do four you only did three if you didn't do three you only did two and the last is even if you didn't anything he did all of them even then it's going to be fine but the says if that's where you're going to be so you essentially the whole of the meaning you want to tell me that the are coming to tell me that you could bring a card and not do anything on the at all it can't be but the says what kind of is that and if the is telling you that it's not then it's not we have to hit the pause button for one second for two reasons to explain what we just learned and to really segue into the gumar that we're about to learn and that is the garra said that even if you accepted all these are coming to say that there's certain that you don't have to do it all maybe you have to do all four the are coming to tell me that you don't have to do the in proper mo they don't all have to be maybe you could do these well thear says if that's the case then essentially what's going to emerge is they don't have to do any. Now, how does know that if you're going to keep in this way, you're going to end up with a situation where none of this is because he read the the words of the Gmorra maybe should mean I'm serve tell even IF YOU DIDN'T DO anything all you did was says you mean to tell me keep the response I don't know if that's what the terrorist said that's what is so long so I can't even read the gar how do you read the gar the gar skip a digit right the first is telling me that as long as you do three that's fine the second is telling me as long as you do two the Third is telling me even if you do none. No, the third is telling me even if you did only one. And if that's what the third is telling me then has no so was off with the math. Literally skipped a digit. I mean this is like uh fireable offense. Like literally the time of the bryer skipped a a full digit and because of that it triggered what's so has a whole to make sense of this. If you look at the hag at the very end of so in the tis says what he thinks rash's in this gammor is and that is that the gammor is tining that if the third is telling me that you would be able to do at the very least three l and only one would have to be lo that means of could be if well then all of as well and if all the be israkus So if that's the case response is if that's what the said let it be bottle and that says the what would be an Indian that requires three you would think it's the way Rashi explains that God brings is not accepting that and being that is not accepting that so is saying that you want to tell me that is coming to tell me that you don't need it can't be that it's coming to teach me that you don't need because even if is talking about the car but you only have three there's there's only three right so I would still think that you need one car if I still think you would need one car it can't is coming to tell me no caress at all. You still need one carrot. And if that's the case, that's a on that possibility again means that only one is the cash is maybe it's coming to tell me that the if it would say four times I would know the may but it only says three times. If it says three times, how do I know the but comes with the obvious comeback and that is okay. So it says vibra only three times. I mean that it says vibra only three times. I can only knock out three cars. But maybe that's what is coming to teach me. It's coming to teach me that at least three of them don't have to be on the car and only one has to be on the car. So again it's it's just semantics. So you're right. It can't be the in world is coming to tell me that you don't need at all. You sure need what? Cuz I only have three mut. Okay. But maybe that's what is coming to tell. How do I know it's coming to tell me that you only need one? Maybe you need four reco is coming to tell me I only need one of them to be on the car. So the says that no that was never an option and this is all included in what meant that was never an option because you don't find such where the can be had to be had to be but that so is coming to tell me that you don't have to do anything you could do everything that's okay but if the most you're going to take out is that You can do one and three. That means the is basically telling you there's a and that's not something that's tenable. And just to be clear, even though we have a so like the said a minute ago could tell you whatever the T wants to tell you, but this is so to speak in that there is no precedent for such a thing. And being that there's no precedent for such a thing, it's not that that's what's going on over here. But says that true went into the and he did and it says that the he did was now the understands now that what does it mean? One was literally on the part of the cap and the other seven were on the part. So you see there's a concept of now to be clear this is not on the but still you see an idea of but the answers that no there it means something else in fact if you look at the they struggle to understand how the could have even made such a mistake because really it's the it means something else what it means means not on a higher part of the capus versus a lower part of the capus fact never even went on the capus. What it means is explains my demonstrated what it means is that the when he used to give malus so he would hit the person 39 times but he didn't hit him all 39 times in the same place cuz he'd kill him. So what he would do is he would do one on top and then a little lower then a little lower a little little lower. So too when the would do the so you didn't want all the dam to land in the same place but they would land like in a row and the reason we call it is because one of them the backside of that's hand when he did was facing down so that was like a a movement that went upwards. So one was Lala, the other one he wanted to be a little bit closer to him. So he had the back of his hand facing up. The movement was but the point is has nothing to do has nothing to do with it being on a higher or lower place. We never found a place where you would have and if that's the case can't be coming to teach me that because there's no precedent for that. What then must have been coming to teach me? must be coming to teach me that even if you didn't do four you did three even if you didn't do three you did two and you didn't do you didn't you did one that's giving up but the continues still is that true that you don't find anywhere a concept of and this two is talking about the special specifically in this case the taken the dam of the par and the dam of the soy right his par and the s of hashem And he mixed them all together and he had to do a whole series of and amongst the series of seven of them were also says my what does mean does it not probably mean probably means the midpoint of the now what does mean the midpoint because people will say sometimes says noon time noon time is considered this lotion of but either Noon is the middle of the day and in the same vein that noon is middle of the day. So the shak would mean the midpoint of the what's the kasha the kash is that if you're throwing towards the midpoint of the inevitably you're going to end up with some if there's a that you can't have then this whole should be an issue and for the fact that it's not an issue you see it's okay. So maybe the way you is some are going to be some are going to be But said no, it's not what it means. It doesn't mean the midpoint of the but rather what it means is it means the top of the what's the word would mean the top it says. Now what it means is is that sometimes the is very clear like you look up at the sky and it's like a clear sky. That's what the word means. It's pure. It's clear. There's no clouds. It's a beautiful day. That's the t of the word. The top of the misbeh was referred to as t because they used to clean the top of the mb. They would remove the dash from it. It was a place that sometimes was busy but also sometimes was clean. But the bottom line is he's means the top of it doesn't hit points and as a result it's not a that sometimes the could be but the asks one other good what about the so the for example the dam was put on the was put on the that's so again you have an idea where the dam is a little bit le now this is a little bit of an interesting kasha because the shir is not a z right we're discussing It's a m but say that's not a because we're talking about the whole is a mitzvah right that's all it is it's an extra credit as a result it's not a but says what about the put on the there is a that holds it meaning the shim of the dam that was put on there's that was now we were put on but there was no but the point is there is that hold that it was so again you have an idea we have you don't find it on one over there it's two separate and because it's two separate so maybe over there it's it's going to be possible on one is where it's two misbas it's like a separate where it's one misb it's a he of the same so you're gonna tell me part of that was part of that was that's impossible. So which is clearly coming to mitigate something right? It's coming to tell me you would have thought this it could be maybe not as much as you thought. It can't be. It's coming to tell me you would have thought all four need to be on the count really if you want one to do one or two or three that's going to be okay. That is not a possibility because you don't find anywhere dumb. What then is the coming to teach me the even if you didn't do four meaning you missed out one complete you're better not doing it than doing it in the wrong place right that's what emerges but the point is is that it could be the terror is telling me even three is enough two is enough even one is enough this is then the third mikart let's make now the final recap on this part of the d and that is we have a mik is between bi and B with regards to the whose dam was put on the how many of the were according to Basil one just like it's one it's one according to B shi over here you would have to have two one in the three times each is pronounced if that's the case means six there's only four kers four of the mitzvah the other two is that's how you know two is going to be according to we have not one mahal we have three mahal the first malik is holds so carnis is not 2 plus 2+ 2 it's 1 + 1 plus 2 which is four all four mitzvah how do I know even one is because can't be that not even one is the second is that base pill actually holds that the way you treat is that you cut the baby in half. You negotiate. If that's the case, the suggest six is just four. What you end up with is five. Oh, five. That's great. For the mitzvah, one is that's how you end up with the fifth one. The third mahalakar was that it's not learned out from at all but it's learned out from the three mentions of the that it says in the par of the all three are extra because it says and it's all one and the same rightap but really high level they're the same. We know there's nuance but again high level they're the same they're very different but again high level they're the same. So why would the have to say the already said must be is coming to be something in the says four even if it was only three that even one is going to be enough says more on this note said the and one as relates to their matter and their method. So what does this mean? What this means is that mater one of its functions was to be m it was m and it was murim. We know that a person could also have a mash is piggle while he's doing a so it says in the world of when it comes to bonus let's go backwards the one that's the matter you do that one eat the you have avle during that one you have the pickle when it comes however to the being that the requires two so over there you would need to do both in order for the bus to they were to be able to be put on the back and you would have to do both in order to establish a piggle because being that the two together are what make up the so it's for that reason if you have them in totality then you're going to have the outcome of if you don't have them in totality then you're not going to have the outcome of this second thing that that according to B you need the two in order to create pigle is what's known as I mean you could have thought that even though I need two but if I have one that shouldn't create big it's what's known as that's coming up very much in the next couple of days either way this is all talking continued and he said however who holds that and there's only one That's so that one that's going to be and is going to be as well says if right and it's almost not clear how he could be wrong but if right he's just doing a little bit of math here then what would emerge is then there's a shami What's the if somebody would have avo this is the gans and as a result it's going to be pickle if that's the case you have a k over b and the kash is that we know that elsewhere and the elsewhere is a mak this idias Kazam made a very big deal about certain cases where Bishame was makeover Bil because traditionally and really if you go through all the different between B and B what you find is that in almost all cases B is the M is the B is the Kaz pointed out when it was K and it didn't mention this so I have that was not mentioned in the says when he asked this I hear what you're saying meaning you're meaning very good but the reason it wasn't mentioned in the is when the between was said meaning when this was presented originally the was not holding in the pickle. It's not what they were learning. They were learning the suga of being m bus buster and being mur and the shil was when it comes to the kakas how many zikas do he need to be m and bul saying what and saying two was the not being that the original was said in a context where basul was being and it was being it's for that reason it went down as a and as it's not mentioned in that exception list of you want to know Yeah, very often you could take a and you could twist it this way and twist it that way and you're going to end up with ramifications where all of a sudden I became the and you became the right true but at the end of the day was one that was being bishi was one that was being mak it's for that reason this is the way it was presented by the tano and we are going to stop here and return to some of the raid that we were talking about during the last few daffin and that is the kimish of parasyak. So we've been discussing that when noyak leaves the very very first thing that does is he builds I saw in the here in Paris he brings from the shuh yala that's the great goyan and this is in his chu inbant test. Everybody knows, everybody lar every kid in pre-1A/primary knows that no was told to take two animals into the z but that was from the non-coosher animals from the kosher animals he was told to take shiva he was told to take seven and seven says that why does hashem want me to take more from the kosher animals than from the non-coosher animals. Remember at that point you weren't allowed to eat meat. So there was no concept of kosher. Maybe I could eat this, I can't eat that. It's not because I'll have more dinner from the kosher animals. Must be it's because Hashem wants me to bring carbonas. That must be the and that was really part and parcel of the impetus of to go and immediately build them as and to bring the carbon. But no took two of the non-coosher. He took 14 of the kosher, right? Not one z but he took seven zugos of the kosher animals and the purpose was to bring carbonas this kasha always bothered it's no went and he brought carbonus right he did exactly what he thought he was supposed to do what were the carbonus that he brought the says everybody knows that a carbon is only it's not so if the carbono that brought were carbon It's a so what's he doing with all those? He can't bring a as a carbon. This is his he says it always bothered me. He said doesn't know doesn't know. Everyone knows this takes the seven the seven he brings them as by the way they talk about why seven why why that have to be the number says when it comes to seven is a magic number but the bottom line is that it was the and if that's the case he doesn't understand if the can't be broken so the says a and really it's talk about talked away. How do you know that uh could be brought on because the says in that's a female and he brought it as a a carbon says the from here you learn that could be brought as a said What's going on here? Is taking these and he's bringing them as a carbon is not it's not true. It's built. WHAT ELSE was it? SO IT'S THAT'S WHY HE was able to bring in a even as a carbon obviously my terror that I'm saying is really and it's totally in yesterday's ra it's to in how you understand this it's totally in how you understand the governed the carbon that brought if you hold that was a bummer in in with the learned that the when it came to Abama you were allowed to bring me not only from is from who brought in other words it was by the way we didn't mention this yesterday but there's another where the has a shy law with regards to somebody brings a carbon outside of the So this is the part of someone's and is in the what type of one would have to do in order to be do you have to be milled on a or is it enough if you on a rock as long as you do some sort of and theor says what's a tollian it's what a beas meaning the is governed by the definition of Obama had to be so then the would have to be a if didn't have to be then the bash is would not have to be either says the I'll just read it inside again my time at the rap is the one that holds that bish he needed to be mac on not just on a rock or on some barbecue because the says you see what was even the says that could be when it says doesn't mean a it means it was some that had a little bit of elevation it was some sort of pedestal But this also like the later and even earlier that the was it was he was able to bring in but we spoke out to said that we was the it was done on and we saw some of and the brings base and that's the place that went ahead and brought his carb and we mentioned for that said that it's that if that's where the carbonus brought then it they were governed they were governed by the regular etc and we said it also from the it's clear the understood that at least according ing to the sheet of the medish the of was a proper misb and the carbonus that we brought were proper carbon if that's the case of course but the cash because that holds yeah however Right? If you think about it and holds and it's governed by whereas the medish holds that it's a prop it's governed by mikt either way that's the first the second is that in his classic piece that we spoke about the last few days here in it's the third raid bite on this. So one of the kashes that he asks is that the Pik says and there's a in the beginning of the end that says it's a essentially how could it be the of was on a bomb and if it was on Obama now doesn't ask it as a he brings this as support as a riot to the that holds that took place and as a says just reading it In other words, according to the that holds that was Obama the is a very very strong and that is to the extent that it was how could the polic say it was and an there's no such thing as as maybe you could say and this is a little but maybe you could say another that we mentioned so many times over the years this is a classic Ben classic and some and this is in brings that everybody knows that Right. There was as to the famously said that the reason the gave a mitzvah of the whole purpose was because people in the ancient world certainly had an to bear and there was this uh inclination to go ahead and take an animal and to serve it up to some sort of deity. That's a very very bad thing. So to be from the and the typ that were the gave us he gave us he gave us all the laws of carbon it's doing a but kosher with a and by you now channeling that urge to bear like this you're gonna distance yourself from the beginning of par brings the rama and he doesn't like it. His these are foolish words. Says, "I can't believe the Ram said this. The whole is that the etc etc. It's all to be from the tips and the you're literally taking the and you're giving it some nexus to you're making the and is with all the things that he doesn't like about the and then he says that there's no question in the world that when a person bought a carbon you were being piled tremendous things in first Ramban explains it in a very deep way also in the words of like only could say the idea of carbon is to be it's like some spiritual electricity but either way so we had this big what was the purpose of carbonus according to the it was literally according to It's an ele maybe you could be I'm going to be and I'm going to be and that is it could be the carbonos that were brought on in the md first is the carbonos that were brought on the b the carbonus that were brought in the mikto that's the But the carbon that were brought on why YOU BRING ON IT'S NOT IN the it's not it's like IT'S IN YOUR BACKYARD on a nice Sunday afternoon with a frisbee. Like what are you doing? Like that's something that YOU SHOULD BE DOING THAT carbon the whole purpose of it. The wholeis of it was that's what it was ALL ABOUT COULD BE THAT'S why said because like yelled at that's THE BIGGEST IN THE WORLD THAT has a from the carbon and in the from the carbon but the where the whole idea was to be the person from well over there purpose of it that's not and if that's the case and that's meant when they said one of the things says he says so we know there's Even that it would emerge that after there's a hat saying that brings one of the one of the who said that even if you love this still was an is It's very big because if it's then there should be a on this but even if you hold this by the way this was the Ager's big or one of his big tus toes Kalisher when Khalisha came up with his idea to bring a carbon p in the 19th century and you know the first question was are you lad even bring carbonus bisman that's the first question before you get to the gart and darman and the and all the things that we spoke But but the first things right what's the first could you bring a carbon boy if you can bring say you're bringing who cares you forgot what do you mean you're willing to take the places to say was wrong that THERE'S A SHANK BUT STILL, BUT THE QUESTION IS WHY if so why in the world would be what does that mean? Sounds like this was more than just a he says it was revealed to me a secret such a and that is that the whole of was like it was that was the whole purpose that was the whole of we know that after once deserved there was no purpose anymore to have on and it's for that reason even if they're still innocent it's not it's a whole different it's based on the HOLY so why you doing it you're doing IT BECAUSE OF THE ARE YOU DOING BECAUSE of the there's no reason to do that once but either way this is what maybe again maybe you could say and this is in he brings a medish is we say three times a for says the we that the and the should be so sweet. It should be so by you. It should be so nothing by the it should be like the carbon the carbon that brought and like the carbon that he brought says the carbonus because the gave a reason for says gave a reason that's the one and then the way paraphrase doesn't say electric that he uses to explain the and the I'm not BEING BUT ON SOME level they're both true we have the mahal of the ra the and we have the right so you have these two grace and they're both there's there's em to both of them there has to be some sort of em to both of them but says the says the means that every time there was a carbon that was brought on the one hand this carbon was coming to to the it was a right you have all the tifa Yonim that are mentioned in the Raman's but there was another element to this carbon the other element to this carbon was that it's also to be a being that part of this was to be the person from that took away a little bit from the of the carbon says there was No in the world started he lived before and comes out of THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THERE AND himself is at right we know at those two points there was no in the world and being that at those two points there was noar in the world SO THE CARBON THAT WERE BROUGHT BY HE AND BY RESPECTIVELY DIDN'T HAVE IN IT THIS dimension of the all it was was all it was was the all it was was the if that's the case those carbonas were so sweet by the because those carbonas were purely there was no other element that was involved in this and if that's the case we saw infer in a footnote he mentions this and then he says if you take a look in the so the were written by the ran is one of the always quotes the ran the was one of the so this is inro it's right in the beginning in his first he brings this madress and he says the same exact shot as the and then he brings it from also said this. So this is a very that the said that's when somebody brought a carbon there was always the right that's always getting in the way and that makes the carbon like the like said but during this kufa there was no in the world if there was noar in the world so what was the carbon so the carbon was only if it was only that's the sweetest carbon It could be that it's true and it could be the is that was Obama and the they were governed by all the of how you're supposed to bring a a carbon as a but again when brought his carbon there was no of being it didn't exist there was no such because We understand those are the sweetest carbonas that were ever brought because there was nothing else. If there was nothing else those carbonas theis of those carbon were and that's those carbon despite the fact that they were brought on Obama in brought on Obama but that suggested this could be at that time at that time where there was no of being that in this point is this carbon right is the purpose of this carbon right now to give some orbus we're in a day where there was no that's by definition it had to be a a by the way just to briskish this a little bit Right? There's an idea of a carbon being brought into that's also not that's the carbon right famously said that's why the struggle to bring carbon was always the carbon it was always the carbon the one carbon that doesn't say that's a carbon that was brought on that didn't have this is a carbon that was brought on Obama that did have because the whole Indian of it not having is the fact is the fact that there's in the world and that's what the carbon does nothing do whatever and that's why and it wasn't just gives us a little bit of a deeper appreciation for those very last words that we say every day right again to appreciate what was read the next says I understand man. Man has his shortcomings. We all have our shortcomings. Says I'm never going to harm mankind again. the way I did it. I'm going to have a whole another attitude, a certain sensitivity with the understanding like the times of like who would have thought there's such a big here in those two that talk about like the times of he a time where it's going to be is going to be removed from the world and really all our is not going to be any more.