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Today's d is and we are at the two dots in the middle of lamas. So we're moving along in the beginning of per shi which discusses the minimal amount of that were in a carbon. The Mishna says as it relates to carbon whose dam was put on the carbon with the exception of the carbonas everybody's in agreement that if the coen did a he did one keeper that would accomplish whatever the whatever the carbon is supposed to accomplish with regards to the carbon that was put on That was a mash bil said just like one mat is enough. So too that one mat is going to be enough as well. Bami says I agree Sharbonus one maton is enough but when it comes to the kas there based on a yikra you would have to have at the very least two matis. You would have to have two as it relates to the carbonas that was put on the now as it relates to the it's only because there were no other carbonas that were ever put on the so as it relates to the there everyone's in agreement that all of the all of the matos are going to be but let's focus now on the carbon that was put on the that base hill it's only that first mat that's anything that happens after that is no longer so those other three that are not but they're something that you're supposed to do they're part and parcel of this karmatas do we treat those as full-fledged because let's be honest that's But they are or maybe no being that they're extra credit and that in theor so maybe the is not the same and it could be the that would govern those would be a little different than the that governs the first and really all that you find in say and it's really that which is the backdrop to the first part of today's d says the garban The latter three mat of the number one cannot be done at night had to be done during the day. Specifically as it relates to there's a coming up later that says which by the way that's one of the places that has his famous as it relates to but becomes ple once it's which would make it completely impossible to be able to do a bala but either way says with regards to those other three just like a regular notal they can't be propala either they could be brought. We know that one of the that you find with the carbon is that there are one of the examples of a whose is that it's so if the bum of the dies then the kus itself has to be killed says what would be if the was in the middle of doing the avoid he even did the first and then in between the first and the second or between the second and the third and the third and the fourth the bum mysteriously died could you now continue doing this or do we say no now this is a pla this is a that's this is one of the and as a result you wouldn't be able to say as much as those latter three but it's finally in the event that one would do with those bloods he would be we know you now let we know you now let it be in the other that you weren't allowed to do either. One of those is and says that just like it's you wouldn't be able to do with the dam before you did the first. So too, you wouldn't be able to do with the dam after you did the first before you did the latter three. Either way, Rabman says that regarding the do we treat it like regular or do we not treat it like regular? It depends. with regards to two that is talking about yeah with regards to one not like a regular like a regular regarding that it's not a regular I think it's to see two rashies in a because rashi says subtle language that's a little bit of a really to the not something we're going to go into but at the same some of the lumbus that's going on over here. of the first is the second rashi of today's it's in the middle of the said that regarding the so in some regards we treat it like a regular in some regards we don't treat it like a regular one of the ways that we treat it like a regular is says even though those are not and if that's the case then stating that and it's for that reason it's not going to be okay. Rashi says that it's those latter three are not in fact Rashi seems to be saying that if you wanted to do a bala you would be able to do a balo because it's not you can't do you can't do but this if you wanted to do you would be able to do so you can't do even with that's not but this is definitely an insight in terms of understanding the sug you a little bit and that is that those latter three mat are literally the next in the event that the did the first mat and then the he already got his with the first one and as a result you don't have the you don't have a perfect shem on the dam to say that right now this dam should be subject to the of where the again Rashi is saying that those three have because at that point when I'm doing this the doesn't have on it anymore that's why it's explaining what's if you're telling me that it's and you tell me So why is it so the ter is because in order for it to be in order for it to be subject to it would have to have it doesn't have so two rashes number one the zika itself is not as number two the k is not and this opens itself up to some real interesting lisha analysis beyond the scope of what we do either way on that note we now pivot from Again made this observation that the are like quasi with regards to two we treat them like a regular with regards to one we don't is going to have the extended list with regards to some we treat those three like the first and with regards to others we treat them. That's the last that was done with which is so in some regards we treat these three mat as the with regards to other we treat it like republic gives us the list as it relates to not being able to do it outside the aar not be a able to do the at night zorus shouldn't be able to do it has to be done with a clich has to be put on the corner of his back the edspot the coin had to use his finger when he did that zika/hazar kipos That's a big that's going to be a big topic now of the DA. But the short version of it is that in the event that Damas went on the beaded of the had a special kibos. Obviously if your clothing are dirty you're going to wash it. But this is a very unique por that tells you exactly how you had to do the kibos in the event that those three were done from a special k whatever's left over in that k is going to be sharplained. Once you do the first Z, it's posit that whatever's left is Shir. But we saw earlier Shir could be is only what's left over from the from where you did the Zo. So let's say I did the Kabal in four Kes did the Zo from the first K. Okay, that's a regular bonafide Z. Whatever Dam's left over is going to be. But let's say I did the second Z from a second. Is that going to be Shir? Third from a third K, fourth from a fourth K. So says Raap that again as it relates to it's going to be. So again the list of things with regards to which we treat the mat of as a regular bonafide is regarding the often do it has to be done with has to be put on the kum by the it's tongue kibos and it creates shir however here's the second list regarding that you can't do after the bum we know ordinarily is and but there's an idea of additionally we know ordinarily could be we know that the dam of has a unique regarding those we treat it like and just like the dam for which that you need to pour on the is not subject to the and it's not matter and you can't be and there's no you can still do even if it entered the so with regards to those four there says we're going to treat it like so had two with regards to we treat it like a regular one not rapa if you do the math had eight yeah and he at four says the how do I know what I just said now just said a whole bunch of right if you can't so what specifically is referring to so if you take a look at says was focusing on his and that is that the let's just play this out a little bit better the did already the first mat did the first raas he has dam left over. He has to do another three. Now the dam spilled. Oops. All over his mai and the gar got dirty. It's all over his beard. Dam kas that pours on a bag is taught in kibos. What about this dam already did the first you got the kapor already. Maybe it's not damas anymore. Maybe the katas is not kamura anymore. Right? So maybe at this point it would be subject to says it is going to be subject to soap says I feel like I need a martis I'm going to tell you my it's in fact later in the event that spritz on the but it went directly from the it was so to speak on the was never a proper that was done doesn't require what would be if the dam went from the corner of the meaning after the it went from after again it's not going to require says papa there's an easy obvious to be had over here it sounds like if it goes from the onto the that's when it's let's say it wouldn't go from the car directly onto the beet but it would be in a state where it's to go on the but it didn't actually go on the caribus it sounds like it would require kibbus now the there's a mitzvah to go ahead and do maybe Maybe it's not maybe the is not maybe it's not the active but at the same time it's certainly and it's from the only is the name but if it's only then really it would require says it's a that you're making this you have to be consistent and you'd have to make another dig from the next words in the Mishna the said right in the event that the comes from the that's after the if we're going to go with your methodology well then it's aside so if it's Riley aside it's going to be kibas now Riley aside would mean that he did all four already that's why it's royally aside needs to be done next is so essentially you're saying that the Mishna is saying that in which you did all four already and you're already holding at the point of doing still it's going to be but the says it can't be you know why because the says and we learn from the word that in the event that you already did The at that point is for meaning that's a fighting that we know that once you do all for and now the stage that you're up to in the carbon if it would pour on the it wouldn't require kibos but according to your methodology in understanding the says that if it was well then you'd have to be consistent and say but if it's only And that's completely untenable. Now the way Rashi explains the gumar, the gumar is continuing with its kash. Now so the gumar says like this. So if you want to make your work, right? So what would you say? I know what you would say. You would say, right? because it's the only way you'd be able to get out of this. Who's in and he was talking about that if you did it's not a problem. Whereas he says that you going to be so according to that you can't do that means that is a real so then I could hear maybe that in the event that the is so could be it's still and maybe it would be subject to the that's the only way you'd be able to understand the okay so what's the punch line of the gasha. The punch line of the kasha is that a it's a little tricky that the later is going how do you know it's going because can only make sense because according to that you did all no way in the world it's going to require and by the way so we know there's no way it's going to work the only way it would work is well if that is going you're telling me I have a that If it's the last three because it's that way in the it's now it's there's no one that would ever argue on this right whoever no one's going to ever argue with you on this right is not going to ask you like he always does in the reason is because that even dam that you didn't do on is with which you have to do that you didn't do the last three mas saying his that we pass like that that even in the world with regards to some is we treat it like regular with regards to some not and one of the cases in which we treat it like regular is with regards to kibas you're bringing me a from a Mishna that Mishna is you can't bring any from the Mishna. In other words, the now is seemingly being from the Mishna. Now, the Gmorra is going to digress now a little bit. The of the just the paper trail of the Gmorra is a little bit tricky. At the end of this gimra, it's really like eight lines from the bottom of the Gmorra is going to bring Ravino who's going to come now and explain what Raisiah was. But at this point the thinks for sure that mission is and if that's the case as much as is a but it's not because yeah it's a in the world of and world it's push those last three would be because even what's trying to say you have no because but again there's going to be a little bit of a digression now the digression is so the feels the feels right that that Mishna is probably going when the Mishna says that what's that must be that so to you is it so to you that just because he holds that if somebody pours the then so too the dam that's up to the point where you have to pour it on the side it's royally aside it would require kibos says I can make the argument that even though it's true is someone that's he gives a lot of power and credence and authority to but that's regards to maybe that's regarding and and there's already a precedent for the fact that something that's not really something that you would think is extra credible you still can't do is something that's extra credit, right? It's never the knock. So, we know it's a terrible thing. So maybe that like is something that despite the fact that really it's extra credit and has no to being a regular and has no to being an he would say that with regards think which that would require dam that's part and parcel of the kapar that dam that still requires is treated like dam like that and as a result you would needap no is that maybe even I mean said it's that I don't even know why it's from I don't even know why it's because even though but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to be in order to be it just has to has nothing to do with whether it's of the says it has to be that's coming to it's enough of it's not enough of an to be subject to what's the precedent for that is not there's no but at the same time it's not something you're allow now just to hit the pause button for one second if you want to learn this properly so the are suggesting now that the mission is not so who is the Mishna right who is the Mishna the says royally meaning if it's royally it would be saying for sure not and even who's the one who you see whole is a big deal you're saying not even the terret is you would have to say at this point if you would stop we're not stopping but if we're not we're pausing but if you would stop at this point you would have to say that it's that the whole is not right that's the way you'd have to speak out at this point you would have to say that the whole is not which would completely undermine. We're saying now I hear your dick of you bringing me from a that I know is really in the as much as we said it's a digression it isn't. It's not because really it's a it's a puppet. Not only is your not a good I'll prove to you that the WHOLE doesn't work but either way that's you want to suggest that the miss is going no it's not true don't get so excited with this I have a where it's Just like you can't do so too that's holding up the we have to do with keepers. What's this right? So that requires now what does mean that the in the next 10 lines or so is going to be a little bit but the shot obviously is and this is the way we start the that's holding by number one it requires additionally it's subject to piggle come again that's tuning your site is subject to mash piggle it sounds like if you have a mach's piggle while you're doing it would be a problem this is a problem we'll Additionally, if somebody would take this and he would be additionally the require but it requires the right. So what went on the first of all the went to the D that was left over went into the so that ain't that doesn't require meaning if it goes on a there's no way to have like that if somebody would take that outside of it says one of the six things that this said was that who is the holds the Another thing that the price said was the you see clearly that according to just like so too that's requires that is now doesn't explain because again can't be bringing from the said that you hold that that can even be no it's It's aar has a problem with this says okay the way you're reading the means what it means that right now is holding at the point where it needs it's holding at the point where it needs oh and if that's the case that's the papa made in the can't read the price this way why because one of the things the price said was funny bit me you're telling me that another thing on that I'll leave it to right is that if would have a pigle while he's doing it would be it would be a good meaning it would be a bad the we know for a fact that you can't have you have to say that we're not reading this bryer wrong right and we have to revisit the now again the started off we thought what does it mean it means that you're holding by right as It can't be because how do you understand? So what then does the BR make that is talking not is talking not about that requires you that's holding now we did all four but rather we did the one and you didn't do the three yet and regards to now the latter three number one which by the way is number two okay that's a and number which is something that spoke out before us and also said but the bottom line is it's talking not about it's talking about the but says just read the words right the B says it's not the right what do you do with this you put it on the Karen you don't put it on the says okay for that it doesn't bother me so much because I could always do a tiny edit a little tweak so tunite means It's holding at the point where right now it needs to be put on the side means that it's dam that is going to now cause something else to have to be poured onto the side. When you take this dam and you do a zer with it, then it's going to require and that's referred to as the scholish matis because the first matana we view independently. The three matas we view independently and then the shir we view independently. The first matu triggers the next three and then the next three trigger the next step which is the either way says the can get out of that I can say it's not dumb that this second needs to go on the side but it's nonite it's dumb that's going to trigger something else that's going to end up having to go on the but says it's still not good because even by the we said papa One of the things in which we treat the is regarding that says you're right. You can't say the price is talking about regular because it says you can't even say it's talking about the why for the same reason because it says you want to know what this bra is talking about. Let's talk about the it's talking about the it's talking about the dam that went on the okay so the doesn't really speak out but Rashi adds and there is a who holds that the of the which by the way was done right but the of the was and I'll tell The price is talking about however it has no and it has no because that is talking about the all and then we view the like the fifth almost and that too is also going to then be subject to all the so again this bryer the only way to make sense of of this bryer is by saying that it's talking about the of the was born. If that's the case, it's not a in who holds regarding the so to require keepers because we're not talking even about our list is talking about this whole is talking about when but the says I have a problem with that as well. Why? Because if you're going to tell me that this Bryce is talking about but that this was done. So what you're telling me is is that the only time this Ber is true right that number one it's number two number right it's only true in the event that it's but let's say you hold me by the would be right which by the way makes sense that the If the would fall on a bag, it would not require and would be which is the everyone other than but the says if that's the case then the Bryce should have said that. So the bryson mentioned three examples where if the dam would fall on the behead you'd have a mash pigle if you bring it would be but what was the case of the the bry that gets poured on the meaning the t clearly is not only coming to tell you right he wants to tell you and right he's being fear and balance reporting he wants to TELL TO BOTH WAYS SO IF THAT'S THE CASE and he wants to tell you examples of so why do you have to jump to that's right which is not even such a hidd live like he could have even been more symmetrical, right? He could have been could have said when is this true that that's only true but as relates to the that in that case you're going to be wouldn't that make more sense. So even this says I don't like so much again. What are we talking about? We're talking about regular and you'll tell me and and if that's the case to the holds it's going to be well doesn't make any sense. You can tell me it's the last of the and it's not but it's a little bit of a but that's what it means also. It's not true. That's uh something that is not the case. He said so that's not the case. You tell me means that it's talking about that was and it's going ACCORDING from there now to tell me three cases a right and you should tell me that yeah where the dam was supposed to go on the dam was on and as it relates to right that would be more consistent. So either way you go over here says I'll tell you the it's talking about regular like says and it's going according to that is something that's what's the lift I'm gonna tell you why there's no li we're coming full circle here because I could always tell you the time of this practice Them who holds holds that and holds as you couldn't tell me that as relates to the you could tell me right maybe one yeah but you can tell me even in best case scenario because one of them is and being that you didn't have the ability to contrast three with three putters and the poetic symmetry that the time of the wants is three versus three he couldn't do a listen the only way he was able to come up with the three was how was by telling you that if the dam is supposed to be it's over there it's going to be put and that's why that's what he said but the bottom line is let's regroup here a little bit okay we started the d talking about shittas papa primarily And then immediately into the papa who papa had the longer list with regards to the last three that were done with the not and he said one of the cases is that it's that if you did the first and the is sitting in the and then before you had a chance to do the latter three it spills on a it's going to be kibos like regular that's you know is from a what was the right from the mission also and made a three clearly said that if you're going to make the you have to be consistent you have to say who would be the hold would be keepers. The only T in the world you'd be able to come up with is right. He's the only one who holds. So you see that this dam is still, you know, alive. It's still in play. Okay? So according to him, that dam would would require us, but you don't see it according to the Now if you see the coin from the that has nothing to do with us. That's neither here nor there. Why? Because we don't like and according IT'S so that the dam that requires the would be because that requires then certainly this dam would be a puppet you're making a is right the only way you're going to be able to learn the is going then really you have no this is not anyways After learning this next part of the garra, really what emerges is the is even a better because the is that even it's a very big that this should be the case because even though that's and even though the gamar thought maybe it had a bricish a bryer that way but that was version 1.0 and by the time we finished this last gamar we were already up to version 3.0 I know but the bottom line is for sure that initial stab that the took at that to have about fell flat which means if you do the recap right now what emerges is even it's now if it's THEN THAT COMPLETELY undermines because then it's from not just at the time of the that's but it's the that's because if you can't You certainly shouldn't be able but the bottom line is it's a problem right from that right now there's an issue because even though that's a very nice decides is going to come save the day his fathers when the Mishna says that it was minaron understood that means and therefore he made the but let's say it's only royal let's say spilled from the in that case is going to be that it requires us hence when the Mishna says any means yeah felt we're going to make the we're not going to make the we're not making the at all we're not making the de what's the if you say you have to No, you don't. Ravina says you don't you make the but you don't make the ra the obvious question like I don't understand the right to say that and the way he asked the c just retouch the words meaning if means even should mean even if it's royal and if that's the The Mishna should be telling ME NOT LIKE YOU KNOW I mean a lot means as opposed to royal well if manite means royally should be royally and in that case the foolish telling me that if it's roy it's time not like papa says respond he told him it can't be because if you're going to tell me so I know already that so I know already that once it's royer at that point it doesn't require kibos. Well, at that point, royally assigned me. Why would you have to tell me that if it's royally assigned that it's when it's royal? It's already kibos meaning when I did the first and now I really I still need to do three. You're telling me but it's only royal. It's already so at that point is it's so then you're going to tell me that but you should know even after you do the after three and now it's only doesn't make any sense of so it can't be it's impossible that's what the mission is telling me it can't be it's telling me the only way to read a is and that makes sense. Meaning if it's royally car it's once it touches the now it's inkos here's the question what would be if I have down that's in the k it's royally I know roy is already tonkibos so maybe royally is also kibos I'm different that it's it's physically on the karin so it's physically on the is so the only way the misha makes sense if you say that means mamish and means that's the case right speaks at one then maybe also means so Rashi says for the same price that doesn't make sense either because once I know it's that I did a proper with but it's on the Karen if it falls off it's not require so once it's on the it's certainly not going to require aas So Rashi just speaks out that other permutation, right? But at the end of the day of the as much as it sounded, but really there's almost no other way to read the Mishna. The way you read the Mishna is that means otherwise the second part of the Mishna makes no sense. If they're both the second part is superolous. And if they're both the real thing, the second part of the mission is superflous. Either way, after this whole drama says that it's requires, if you're going to make that dick, don't you have to make the next. If that's the case, you have a big problem because at best it could be and if it's from then your whole from the first part of the falls by the wayside anyway it's not that that would be true the whole answer is no there's a to be had the words actually means and is that it's keep us moving along and really to the last part of the talks not about the but rather the kas that went on. So here's the good news. The good news is that the balance of the daf is just going to be a and uh the better news is that in tomorrow's daf we're going to go into the bryer. But really from now until the end of the daf we're just going to go through a bryer all of which is going to be discussed in tomorrow's d. So we're just going to really finish the daf quickly and then tomorrow we'll we'll see this brighter. Again this is that sometimes we have a long bryer and then the gammor says and we start extrapolating the parts of the braer that require analysis. So we learned to the price again the one piece of information that we need to know which we know already from the is that in as much as that when it comes to the one's when it comes to over there everything is is going to be now this that's going to be malavos through the next two focuses on a parap it's talking about one of the carbonas we know there were many types of right there was and even in the kat if was it a kiss or was it a there's there's the so this is actually talking about the so we'll talk more about it tomorrow but for now the says to the what this means is that the par prior to the is the parish of the pariah so the says you should treat the In the same way that you treat the so there's a lot of extra words in this and therefore went and they extrapolated to try to understand what's going on over here. Now the first we'll just speak this out and then we'll go through it that had was that the says if you go through the says what you're supposed to do with the parakas which is the par says what you're supposed to do with the which is the same thing. So we know so really there's a a little bit of a dick to be had over here. Why would the have to say I mean it's a very important statement but if you're telling me anyways what you're supposed to do and I know it matches up exactly so obviously says it's coming to tell me that you have to do whatever you have to do and this is coming to teach that if you don't do exactly what you're supposed to do but you don't have anything at all. In other words, what the T meant when it said is you have to do what you have to do. Of course, I have to do what I have to do. Right? Obviously, I have to do what I have to do, right? I have to do what I have to do. No, THE TELL YOU A SECOND time you have to do what you have to do to teach me that in the events. I would have thought that maybe this that you have to do exactly what you have to do and that's regarding the what's says that part of the avoid of the was to do seven on the so we know there were that were done on the and even on theap but it wasn't only true the par the also had such so says the I would think that maybe only time there's a that's only regarding which you find is always now what's this says that we'll see already we'll see that in tomorrow how do you know the regular the right that's why we're talking about this part of the now but the point is that as it relates to the regular That's why the Tory says after it says and from the words I learned that not only is there with regards to the Zion there's also with regards to the now the said another that let's speak out both of those words held was extra and the reason is because it's very obvious that we're talking about the right is in the middle of a narrative. The beginning of the narrow says you have to bring a par. Now what do you do with the paras? So really just said and the second par we know for sure is extra. So says the la the first parame last to teach me that the special is like the now says tomorrow is Dr. Tomorrow is going to explain with regards to now you would say why do you have to wait until tomorrow's we just said right this the reason is because we already have another that all those actually has to be not just with regards to the amount of it must be with regards to something else part with regards to the second part That's refer to referring to the pariah to teach me what that also has right meaning the is that you should do to the what you did to the but we're saying it's that that's what you're supposed to. So it can't really be that's what the is coming to say. So what then is the coming to say that whatever you have to do by the if that's the case at this point we actually know more about the than we know about the not only you have to do what you DID FOR THE I RATHER don't even know that it's when it comes to the right the was coming to be on the actually the reason the told it to me was Because if all the wanted to tell me was he had to do with the I know it from what the already laid out and even the say the word the word is actually to teach me this is right to teach me to teach me that just like regarding the power with regards to the it says the word we know this is that's coming to me that the so that's the version right so what would be if that was so then they had to bring a par and right the par became and the was so what is coming to be it's coming to be that the are treated the same way what does it mean treated the same way so here rashi also explains this is not rashi says number one that requires on the number two it required on as opposed to additionally it's needed to be burnt and says because if you look at the place that the Torah talks about this or this which is doesn't mention any of these so is that this is that's being brought in a similar vein as the is treated 100% regarding the it's treated 100% like the parel I would think that maybe it should be says why is it so that was brought for that was born and the was born says the price the rabbit says how do you know what to be mar what to be married maybe if I says the price. I'll tell you why. Cuz being that we have a there's a commonality that the has with the and that is that in both of those cases there was they knows about the mistake that was made when they bring the carpet as opposed to this. This doesn't take us back to a little bit to but this really takes us back to the beginning of the right the first like 15 block and that is that the was burnt as part of the mus and the was born as part of the muffin that was brought it says it was no we're not going back into that old huge but the bottom line is there's no at all so because there's no at the time that you're getting your atonement so therefore it's last and that's why we might say that the Py continued and said so what is teach me isap that you would have thought maybe I didn't do everything the way I'm supposed to do it maybe I shouldn't get kapar no you're going to getapl the same thing you would have thought maybe you shouldn't getap right we had the other day even though you didn't do what you're supposed to still it's the same type of getap even though you didn't do everything you're supposed to do you're going to get even though you didn't do everything you're supposed to do what's that coming to Even though there was no who was supposed to do supposed to do even though there was no even though you didn't do it says so essentially what you're telling me is this is being very stringent on the one hand very lenient on the other hand it's being stringent not only it's all going to be but then it's also being very lenient on the other hand even though you didn't do this even though you didn't do Right. So how do I know that the are but the and the are not says the very reason I'm because you find that which is usually not now you would think what do you mean right does this need you say what do you mean no say is theap Rashi actually says in is going to explain a little bit better what it means that really just the tit those words everywhere we is everywhere right so either way this is the tomorrow's we're going to pick up with uh in the stop here so as it relates to raid I think it's kadai to try dip in one more time to some related to this week's para more regarding the kchin of so for the fourth time the pik says that as soon as emerged from the What was the first thing did? The first thing he did was he built them. He took from all the kosher animals and from all the kosher birds and he brought smelled said to himself, wanted should come about through these carbonas happened. In fact, what's we ask that our and our carbono should be sweet to you like the sweetness of the carbono that Noak brought. Now the week we spoke about different that are talked away here in these two. Number one by was it a or was it a from this was a regular in fact the Goras in those two places learned critical related to the from this from the bracious that this wasn't wasn't just a bummer, but rather this was a misbeh. And we mentioned from that if that's the case, it's guns possible. It's that could be theim that governed this was not but rather it was and if that's the case that would explain why even though we know it's based on the fact that this wasn't governed by regular but rather this was governed by the laws of mikdash we mentioned the from inu's Yala and that said that what was the carbon that brought he brought the Pik says that he took from all the now how many were all it was seven and seven we know is that uh could only be ana and if that's the case then how is it possible how is it possible that is bringing now an froma and we said that even though this was the of the sashar It's that you could bring but what if it was a regular if that's the case so it's being governed with mikt well if that's the case no such thing as an you know it's just a smattering just a little bit of the raid that we spoke about over the last couple of days but The Pik says, "What was the carbon that brought?" He brought Why did bring you have to be, right? Well, let me catch him now. You could bring a You bring an ash, you could bring an You could bring aim, bring a Somebody emerges from the You'd think, right? He's definitely from you would think now would be a good time to maybe go ahead and bring a carbon, right? is the right something called okay it wasn't right but there's different types of carbon now I think the starting point to analyzing this is the over says there was and one said and the other one says they can't bring now the background to this is the says that's bring stating that could also bring or could he not bring it the say the heavenly It sounds like brought from the he didn't bring the whole carpet must be can't be why not because goes completely on it's not only thus you see brought so this is a more complicated the says You know what this means? Okay. that all the carbonus that they're bring is all but an only the second part of the P is talking about that is even in because we could bring even and is that could be even on the D side of the but either way it's whether was only able to bring a carbon or whether Ben was also able to bring a this is a very fundamental sh and really it's a lot of in the and if you go through the actually goes through a lot of those but the bottom line is is there was a big by the way we don't know who said what did I based on but either way at first glance you would say that according to the mama that holds that was only allowed to bring it's the reason is he's not right he is he is and if and the only carbon that can bring is an that would be this is the cash would be according to the that holds that could bring not only an but he can also bring a if he could also bring why Did Nyak bring? Why couldn't Nyak not have also brought Why could Noak have not also brought a carbon? And the MS is that even this simple terrorist that according to one Mandama could only bring that would only be true that would only be true if you hold that carbon were brought. But in the event that is like said it's going with well if it's going with mik then you're talking to say that even if but at the same time if this whole this whole is going with the you would think that his should be governed by the mikdash as well. But either way, if you hold that could only bring and is a and is going to with that learned that from this it's very good. That's why he there was no other option. There was no other carbon for him to bring this the only carbon he could bring. If however could bring a and even if he could only bring but this was a often end that he could have brought any carbon at the very least if he wanted to bring a schlam he should have been able to bring the slums could be the terret is very simple and that is that at this point no was not allowed to eat yet any bos was not allowed to eat any baser so he would have brought a schlum and Let's say so what would he have done with the he can't eat it and just to let it sit around that's an is so that wouldn't have been an option and if that's the case IF THAT'S THE CASE he had to bring carbon oil he had to bring a carbon oil because he had to bring a carbon where all the bus was going to be put on the and was going to be burnt but it's not posh the reason it's not posit because the says what's we learn from BECAUSE HE BROUGHT WELL HE WAS ALSO not let it eat and he brought him. So if he could bring also bring I think if that's the case it's a little bit why then was it that brought an why did not at the very least bring a carbon the you know asks this kasha not exactly but you know ask this kasha kadesh the kesh in this week's para it's in parakadesh is talking about the yanuka And the saying this got up and he said the say this is the built and brought carbonus on which by the way this is now another Not like the we have the bracious we have we have the we and now we have the as well but either way says that you want to know what this was this was says why did he bring you HAVE TO ASK THE question why was it an says desire begin because a person brings a carbon when you have a hearer that you're not supposed to have. Right? There's two that talk about when a person brought a carbon in the beginning based on the first says that was brought and even then it wasn't per but it's a right but the bottom line is it's there's another that brings in the beginning of that is and we learn from there that carbon is said that you want to know Because what was for desire? Because of some hearer than what was the hearer said that the world should be destroyed. Maybe because I was saved during my tenure in the maybe I lost all my and maybe I'm going to have no to be able to leave the table. As soon as he left the table, he realized that the hearer that he had was a bad hearer and he went ahead and he built him. When you read the it sounds like saying the reason is because and the was that he was saying to himself I don't know if I'm going to be able to get out of the I mean spared me through the of the which in the we spoke about that was right and it required a special to get out of even though was put in the to be saved but even to emerge from the that required but either way he said I don't know I don't know if I'm going to be able to survive. when he left heed that that was a mistake because he did have the ability to leave and he shouldn't have questioned the and because of that he that he asked the ring of carbon for the he had that's the way you read but if you look at the they're all very very bothered with this they much very very strongly with desire and the reason they much very strongly with desire is because it sounds then like by no going ahead It sounds like is doing something wrong, right? This is not something that he's allowed to do. that of is really a trait for that's what it sounds like right this is something that you find by the something that you found by grace and if that's the case I don't understand that desire is punished for thinking whenever we think about saying right it's something that we always think about in a very positive way over here all of a sudden this is a bad thing like what's would have been punished for saying and because it is if you look at a lot of them there very differently and they learn that really just said that was what exactly the was that desire is not saying and the next part of desire is already a whole another narrative that the reason is because he needed and what was could be it's that of but a lot of the have a big issue with that and as a result they claim that really it's not what was this is way above my pay grade but could be says Right. There's one slip up that you find with all the rashes. He was right. That's what Rashi says was he was he did everything right was not and all the things that were going on in that generation. But the one that you do find with regards to is that it was right. So that's her life and he needs for by the way there's one other that you find regarding says that needed that really he didn't have me to be saved because he didn't for the feel is also that's also not the he did have but the he didn't have but either way that's desire the already addresses this question and says that the reason brought was because of the fact because of the fact that he needed. Now why did the z just say that the reason is because he was a and is only latter bring so you could say maybe hold this one but it could be it's even more than that because what's the preface of the could be it's could be because this carbon that was being brought was being brought under of that's the case like says you're talking that it goes with mto if it goes with a mik's not boxed in BAD PUN IS NOT BOXED in now TO ALL OF A SUDDEN having to bring a garment that only a is allowed to bring right has ostensibly more options if that's the case on my it's not BECAUSE must be the reason is but just to end with one other so it's whether was only to bring or is allowed to bring as well there's only two options it's neither or the is is it only or do does he have the option to be able to bring a schlam as well what would be shot in the mama that holds that he could only bring or at the very least why would it not be able to bring so says it's in a few places in his but say this idea and that is that to this of being of being something that's something that they're they're but something that are not to and something that's uniquely Jewish is to be able to take your goof and to be mad right climb the ladder of the mashar That's something that an was brought it was brought 100% he can bring a carbon that's going to be but to bring a carbon that's going to be that you're going to have where the person himself becomes like a like himself uses this mush in the end of the not something do that's something that of the carbon that was really all carbon other than the had of the carbon that was for that reason the only carbon that you find that was allowed to bring was the carbon but I'll tell you that I found and this is in the pish zas ran that was written by the moan that on yach so the chim is in par it's in the parish of the carbonus and it's talking specifically about the carbon the says I'm just going to skip around it's not fair heard about the and they heard in the there's a whole of the whole it sounds like the Jews have carbon we don't have so like carbon old carbon whoever was they have a right to bring the carbon but whoever didn't did didn't and the reason is because the carbonos are all sh now the moan says what was the question that they were asking Bill they don't have carbon they do have carbon it's not true the question that they were asking specifically was why could we only bring an why can't we bring that was the question now they're going to get another day but today this is what they learned they learn and they want to know why can't we bring and on that bill in response but somebody else not skipping to the end of the mish and the way that the learns that this is all part of bum's response or at the very least kazish and bum's response was brought in to the skin and the no part of it and the go to the And it's not just the it's every case. What emerges with regards to the is made peace because gets the dom. That's why it's called because it brings to everybody. And when the bring upon him this is the mattress says the let me tell you what's going on over here what's going on over here this is the mattress come to bum and they tell bum we can only bring WHY CAN'T WE BRING I CAN bring not I want to know why I can't bring you know what the answer is because the of the is something that brings it's a carbon that is what's the says the is that when brought a carbon and he was micro part of the carbon on the essentially he's feeding the right he's feeding you find there's a concept of the eating there's a concept of the msbak actually receiving nourishment and actually eating a of Carbon says the Mavra that when a schlama was brought there was a suda that happened and you know who parttook in this suda this was a suda that involved the it was a suda that involved the and it was a suda that involved the rest of also it's a very very unique suda an is aud you have to give the brought. So that's a that the get to go ahead and they get to partake together with but the IS this is a feast. This is a meal where every single is invited to this meal. That type of suda says the And that's why says the told him that they're right they have that relationship with and because of that special relationship with they can partake in that suda you want to give the a gift you can give the a gift oh to be invited to such a suda that's not something you have a I found aim That's I think to this and that is the says would come to the family he would cry the says and would say that the is waiting to eat all of a sudden doesn't want to have anything to do with me anymore said says the the but the Y gets to EAT FROM THAT. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THE says thank you for giving me this and I'm inviting you now to my suda. And the idea then of the and that was said there was a time that we were able to eat the there was a time that we were holding right there is always all of a sudden says I don't want your says I don't want your schlams anymore I'm not going to sit down and break bread with you anymore we don't have that relationship that we used to have just like can't bring now the said that he is not able to bring the because we no longer have that relationship and that was it used to be and now all of a sudden it's and the contrast between that and the reason can't bring the is because the was but it's a that we're all eating together always on the level of that's the we were on after it was the when he used to come to that he used to cry. I saw that in his on that just read you one paragraph. He says quotes this from the all the carbon are going to be bottled with the exception of the all the are going to be bottled but the says the inner why what's the difference? See he says the is halfled there because a carbon is brought for a reason. You bring a carbon because of it's going to be right. They're going to bring the even but no one's going to be in a mat. You're not going to need carbon. The whole test of the carbonus is not going to be in. You know which carbon is going to be in the only carbon that we're going to have is the because you know what the is that's what it is is we come together with the we come together and we everyone is invited. There's no hierarchy. There's no levels. every single person is allowed to come. That's the of the right gives you a better appreciation. That's what it means. It's still this mind of I think it's getting late but I think we're still there either.