Zevachim 50

Today's is and we are about 15 lines from the bottom of the parentheses. So today's daff begins with a sim uh rather very straightforward simmon. Regretfully the easiest part of today's daf is the simmon. But the glyo to that is in the words of the simmon. We're going to be dealing with an heck with a kalmer. The one thing that's omitted from the simmon that's going to also feature prominently in today's daf is binav/adasha. So really today's daf picks up to the very end of yesterday's daf before the raid and that is that one of the that govern is any that I know in via does not have the ability to now be pay this forward to something else alkish. So I have heckish A, I have Heish B. Ordinarily, if I know something via heckish A and I'm a party to heish B, I can now go be makish to the thing that I'm party with in he that's true in with the exception of kach. How do we know that? So yesterday's d we saw two mccaras to this. The first was ra and the second was ra. Ravina said that it's learned from the of the specifically the of the mitz more specifically the fact that the of the had to be bits of soften said that it's learned out from the parsiah specifically from the hakra of the parco mashiach more specifically from the idea that the hakura of the parcoy mashiach is very inclusive. It includes in it the and the and from with an says this of what we're going to talk about in today's is what happens if you have a we know it can't be could it be could it be could it How about this? What happens if I have not but I have a I know this is based on not can I now go and be can I be the truth is that the is also going to discuss what happens if I have a can I What if I have today's is going to focus on we started it already yesterday. What we still need to figure out is could it be we're also going to see in today's tomorrow's we're going to learn the latter part of the and that is being either way we're picking up we know it can't beer could it be could it We know that. How do we know that? That's yesterday's stuff. The gar is repeating the two backwards. That was the second. It's learned out from the par of the parsiah. That was the first mar. It's learned that from the par of the could it now be or not says bring you. So this is a that obviously is the laws of we don't really have to get into the kishkas of right now but super duper high level what we need to know is that there's an ironic counterintuitive in and that is that if somebody has a nega that nega could be a nega that makes him tummy. If however the nega spreads to the point where it's now his entire body is overcome by this nega then the is he'll actually be so in this is discussing how do we know that when it comes to begotten begotten we are if the nega spreads and now the entire beggar is consumed by the nega that it's going to be he said we know it from it says the words right these are very words it says regarding when it comes to again counterintuitively so when it comes to it's going to be the same thing now says the how do we know that the is that if somebody has a nega on his body and it is that it's going to be we know it from because the says regarding the different types of that's unique to refer to as a nec such as raglo and malah just like as it relates to the nega of the head. The Torah says that if it's meaning it spreads throughout the entire head is going to be so too as it relates to the that's on the rest of his if it completely turns white meaning it's going to be in other words said that if has a nega And the is it spreads throughout the entire is it's going to be you now you know that it's going to be I know it from a from now I know this through aish in other words what I have over here is what's the So says the we want to know what's from this but says heard this and said this is not a good why we know that This is not an issue the we're learning now that we have whether or not that's a even when it comes to that was never the law the sh is what would be by and when it comes actually there you can't learn now even via and said I'll prove to you how I know that no is doing two things is saying number one that the is not because that's handling the laws of we're discussing the second thing is doing is he's going to say I'm not only going to deflect your I'm going to bring your just the opposite. What's my cuz if you're going to tell me that we're going to go back to yesterday's why the have to say that the carbon had to be brought right said it twice the said it in the parish of a and then it over again by the so yes there is that right but the point is that why the terra have to mention when it comes to the carbon we could have learned it with shava kadash from the carbas by the katas the ter refers to it as kesh kadash and by the carbon the also refers to it as kadasho I don't understand why do I need a mention of suffin by the carbon asham it says kadash and it also says kic kadash by the carbon kas the carbon katas I know hasn't been softened So if I know the hasn't so now I should be able to memor says what must be the reason because how do I know by the says you should which we saw in yesterday's refers to as a must and says not only is your not applicable to what we're talking about right now I'm but I actually have a right just the opposite from the fact that we needed a mention of by the we couldn't learn from must be because itself but the says maybe the reason you can't learn this is not because but rather maybe it's from maybe it's because you could ask Maybe it's because there's a on you want to learn from the I can tell you is more common than isos is not and very often come together because they're both but at the same time is more of a than the is the isapp even as opposed to so if all you had was the maybe I would say as it didn't soften as opposed A now what's the basis to ask a cash on exerv since when could you ask kashes on sha the answer is there's something called and there's something called if you have sha that's where there's no extra words in the sha so then you could even though every word that you're using this is needed meaning it's already taken for the sh for something else it doesn't matter there's a mus of dar but only if it's bulletproof only if there's no cautious on it. If you have shab that's based on words that are extra words that the didn't have to write. So then we assume the wrote it for the sha. So you can have cautions from today till tomorrow. The terror is telling you it's terror is telling you that you're supposed to dash in this the is assuming that this is to the extent that it's so says the reason you can't use here is because I have a ter if you look in the mentions more than once it mentions iter there's multiple mentions of it. Oh, if there's multiple mentions of it, that means there's definitely extra kadosims floating around in those which makes it if it's then you'd never be able to ask a on such a you would never be able to say well if that's the case then let me learn that softened by a carbon via this must be And that is the maso of the that just like so. So again it's because this is going to repeat itself so many times in the we have two either or either it's learned out from the mashiach or it's learned out from the Heckish is learned out from the felt it had to explicitly mention regarding the of the carbon. Moving along now could be says that's pretty straightforward could be and the is based on. Now why is the Gar not telling us what the is? Because we had this earlier in the context over there was that learned from that there's a just like there is just what does S means that when the coen is doing the with the he could do the even if he has or right he has some sort of growth on his finger the dum meant that you have to have in the sheer and means you have to do a proper you can't scrape the blood off the side of the the cup the it says regarding the paracia and from there there was a bra that brought two different cheas how we apply it to all the different specifically said that as it relates to the we learn it via the medium of that one of the from the now how do I know the I learn it via a from the in other words and the made this observation that is of the opinion that which is being learned out from the Mia or from the it's all mentioned in the same is being now what was the that was a hard right certainly carbon carbon these are both the same but the bottom line is that was very much what we need for now is that the already addressed this point. The already checked off this box that in as much as when it comes to a we know this from what said I'll prove to you at first glance that it can't. Why? Because if you're going to tell me we're going back to and we're going back to the why have to mention that the required why can't you learn it straight up from right what's the it's a classic this is this is this is right these two carbonas the kas and are the most similar probably of all carbonas so if that's the case why can't I just learn it straight from why have to tell me then someone comes to probably tell me very straightforward but says according to you argues I mean if you're telling me that you can learn something with a and you're muching why don't you learn it from have a better right you're saying good say better you have from they're both okay it's not as similar right we said is very similar to it's only a little similar maybe to but it's similar enough in the world of and if that's the case so why can't it be why not soar says probably because at the end of the day it's not a good reason it's not a good saying I know what the answer is because you'll always tell me is being that it has that it's why there's a softening. Well, if that's the case when it comes to you have the same and as a result there's no if there's no well then you can't prove anything from the fact that the didn't learn it. So you trying to be fact mentioned by an why not learn from why not learn it from that's not so Rashi says these next words of we're not trying to be anymore we'll see in a minute what happened with this but for now the is not trying to be now the is asking something else we know it says by the says suffer by the it says suffer by the really it only says it by the but you do what you do by the and the you do what you do by the one says you do with the what you do with the but the mentioned it in some way shape or form by the three types of now is forget about the right let's put that aside for a minute literally we're going to have to bring it back don't put it too far aside but just for the moment says the why do I need to mention by all three of these carbonas. Why not mention it by one and mammoth learn the other and you'll tell me maybe you can't learn one from one straight up maybe make it between two why do you need three says I understand you can't learn one from the other each one has its unique in and its unique that you'd never be able to learn one straight from the other right is kam we know has a minimum she right there's always different that we found the first 50 right that suggests that each one has its own says that why can't the mention it twice and learn the third from the other two why does the have to mention it thrice which one do you want it not to say and which two do you want it yet to say maybe it shouldn't say it by and I'll learn from they have something in common. You'll never be able to learn from because they're both as opposed to that's not maybe let it not say it by the and I'm going to learn it from the and from the they both had a that's maybe it shouldn't say it by the and learn from Right? Anas could be a carbon. It could be a carbon sour as opposed to an asham which is always a carbon. It's never a carbon. The bottom line is that it's for that reason tell me all three. You can never learn one from the other straight up. And even if I mention two, you would never even be able to create a because like I'd always tell you for that reason play around and mention it three times. But as it relates to the original, the gamar leaves us hanging. And the truth is if you look around it's really so bottom line is the answer is I don't know it's a suffic that's what emerges the thought it had the was if that's the case at this point the garra has no the next is already going to focus on we're not going to revisit this any further if that's the case we're going to leave it with a suffix so what's the as it relates Again, this is by that was who proved it from the fact that we didn't just make I don't know. Says the moving along if I have that's learned from could it go now and teach hakish. So again we're going to do with as we set this up earlier exactly what we did with we're going to want to know can I be the that's the first thing we're going to try to figure out then it says first said it says in the says so the juxtaposes the carbon and the carbon and from the fact that the terra does that we see that the terra is comparing in the vernacular militaries being the carbon to the carbon. We learn from here that just like so. So what does this mean? It means that if somebody has my sasheni money and he wants to use the masheni money to buy a carbon. So ordinarily the is that you can't just use masheni money to bring a carbon that you have to bring. when it comes to a carbonim we're going to see in a minute there's a special mucker that says that is bought from money and via this heckage right now that just like is bought from money so too the is going to be bought from money as well so this is a what's the point of this is to create a says the good. And how do you know that a schlum could be brought from anybody? It's learned out from it says and it says it says and it says so it says sh by the two is and just like by sheni means so by means sheni as well. What do you have from here? Says papa. I have the fact that could be brought with my money is to the can also be brought with my money. But you want to know because it's I know it from the fact that you can bring a with my money via a from the fact that you could bring my money which I goof and knew through a says so after a papa said this told I don't understand what was our Now let's be clear is not but for sure relative to it's but here's the point it's not right it's not it's not included in all these denim that we're learning over here and if that's the case and if that's the case what's being that the underlying right let's get this clear because there's three legs to this trip right we're learning from via heish and we're learning from via my is not so there's one leg of this trip that's not and as a result it's not you have a that we are a leg of this trip is But we knew that that was never even the sh the was from you have all these what would be but to tell me from the fact that I could learn to from when I already learned from so says that when asked this raino ra responded he told him The way Rashi explains this is he was talking about that we just said in other words when we say let's say any one of these equations that we're talking about right here all these different variables and permutations right so all these different that we're discussing you need in order for it to apply that the late and the mamame should be cach or maybe if the late is cach if the late is not kim that would be enough thus maint is that we meaning right now I want to learn from via and I know from is that included in this of or not is clearly assuming that it's not included because being that the thing that was it was so now even though which is the lid in the shin and it's also the in the he and the lid of the heish is but if the of the original that makes not applicable to this on that ra to be clear and the of the second half of the journey have to be both in the he in our sug and they are both kim the is the and the is the but you need that the l and the of the first leg also to both be for that all I should need is that the l which is the should be kim and it is so the l is kachim the in the should be enough. In other words, in his onar, he was saying a very big kadesh. What he was saying was that it's not enough that the l and its mame are kim. You need even the malamid of the malame. theb also has to be caught up and to the extent that that's going to be then already it's going to knock it out. Rashi throws in one line that as it relates to this is what the means when it says it's this it's this tension right here this it means that original do you need it also to be in order for or that's that would be enough for the bottom line is we're going to go v now so what emerges really and we'll see that the holds at the end of the day whether a is really that's what emerges according to it can he knows it from the fact that you can bring it from and being that the l is and now it's being that's enough form so you see clearly that it works Whereas Bradi he held not that way. By the way, Ravino who came to the defense of he also holds like but the bottom line is and who came to his defense on the one hand as opposed to on the other hand. So again the first box that we had to check off as it relates to next case. What would it be if you have a big I know it from a Bryson. Now the background to this price is the carbon. The carbon we know came with how many breads were they? 40. It was four types of breads. Each one was made up of Each one was made up of 10. Of those 40 breads, 10 of them, meaning one type was 30 of them, the other three types were all matzah. As it relates to the matzah, Rashi says matzahh. There were three types of matzah. One was called, the other one was called and the third one was called and it's based on just the way they were prepared. They were prepared in different ways and hence they have different names. So one is called, the other one's called rakikin and the other one is called rava. But we're going to focus now on those three types of mats that make up three of the four minimum of the it says in the we learn from this. So this is clearly talking about which one of the three types of it says right. So I know from here that the had to be so is fine flour right? It's not just flour. It's fine flour. So I know it has to be fine flour. How do I know? Now are the next words. It says it says it earlier in the but it doesn't say anywhere that it has to be right. How do you know that the type of also had to be brought to it says the it says I know from because it says in the context of it says in the context of the and it says by the right it's called so it has to be would have to be as well is the third type of how do you know that also has to bear There's another ex. It says matzo matos. Now, where does it say mats matso? One mat. It says byo matzo. And the other mats, it says byik. It says matzo. So I know that the have to be soless from and I know that the have to be from the in other words is it's being learned out from and it's being So says the you want to know because I see it from this double as relates to the that you needless but all the when it comes to the carbon you're assuming that when said that the also had to be is learned out that what's the mat you're learning the from the it makes sense it's the same par it says it says mat there you're not learning it from the same par you're not learning it from the and the reason you're not is this and okay then what is of matis maybe it's being learned out from the par that's one of the types of it says you have the and it says maybe that's where it's being learned out from so you're telling me that the all require is based on maybe once so there is one we're going to learn from BUT CAN'T GO FIGHT there and learn now from okay so how do I know I thought IT WAS OH DIFFERENT IT'S FROM the mafana which also had to be so it says the same word over this says I hear said let's try another attempt and that is we know it from the following so we know it from the brace it says regarding the par it says the says So one of the unique is regarding the pariah was that it was from the what does it mean the par and the bus wasn't eaten right they put on but the bus wasn't eaten rather the buser had to be taken and it requires so this rice is going to do a deep dive into this it says and then it says and then it says right afterwards it's actually the next it says we learn from that when it was taken out, it had to be taken out in G. How do you see that? Is like a singular thing. You should take it out. There's like this one thing that you're taking out. So you see from here that when you it was taken out, this it had to be complete. You would have thought when you come to do the it should always also be whole. It says here that when they did the so the way they did it was they did it and it says regarding the carbon where they had to burn the bus this is this was on the it was also Halloween over there wasn't strike is a mitzvah called so too here just like over there when it comes to the earth there was a mitzvah of so is it true they before they burnt the of the what's the what we're saying is is that just like no one's taking out the the the right that's the excrement of the animal from the animal because that would just be disgusting so so too we're not removing the baser from the art either either way okay so this is Bryson number one that Rob is presenting what's this Bryson that the of the means is that it had to be taken out in G because it says however the we know from the carbon that it had to be done after there was already a just like the whose was burnt on the whose was burnt there was of as well you could have thought that maybe there didn't have also but the bottom line is is that just like they didn't remove the excrement from the animal they didn't remove the buser from the skin another it says over here now this here is the par and the of again with these it's it's especially necessary to have all these so it says regarding the and it says over there going back to the Okay. What do I learn from there? Just like by the we just said there's a mitzvah of no. So too when it comes to the and the but not going to be says you know what I see from here I see the is that before they burnt the boser of the par and theurim they had to do. They had to take the bos and they had to how do I know it? I know it from where from the mash. What are the words of well how do I know it by the par doesn't say it anywhere by the I know from it says and it says by just like there was a you know what I have I have learned from So you say as relates who came to his defense said yeah we have a from the fact that you could bring a carbon from said that over there is you can't learn anything from there we took two stabs at it first and And but at the end of the day, we got it right came to the rescue and yes is that it's could it be or cannot be says you know what the answer is. I know from aimer, right? By the way, in tomorrow's D, we're going to have aimer and believe it or not, we're going to have the infamous comes from. But anyway, I know it can't be right. We know this. This is easy. Yes, it is that we know does all the for us could be that could be right. Right. Right. Is that posh? Is that No, it's not because it did enough times. It's only it's only papa. Right. Papa holds that certainly should be can't beh right. We have to say it's but it's a different is false. Now some have the gear was the first attempt of the gar actually knocked out. said so of the right but the point is we know that certain so it's but it's a slightly different is that can't be to its own kind that could be to its own kind everybody holds certainly it should be able to this is where the bibl so what's the bottom line what's the mccart to that how do I know it I know it from last line of today's we can breathe this is the easiest answer of the world we just have to wait says take us what's the bottom line this is the first half of the equation we went through in today's either it's learned out like said from the or it's learned out like said from the of the is said I know that from the fact that had a mention softened by the carbon is I know that from who learned of those three regarding the was brought on and as it relates to being able to be the thought it had a and then the just left us hanging which means that we're really left with a sophet. What about could it be said? Yeah, we know it from the fact that could be brought from money said you have no right came to defense. That means it's ra Yeah. Whereas hold no the short answer is yes. What's the mi said? I know it from the fact that there's a by all three of the mats said I know it from the fact that there's a by the and before you burn it, right? They were included in the but the bottom line is everybody holds that the answer is yes. The answer is yeah. How do I know it? I know it from the certainly and as it relates to for that we don't know the came out and the said take and I think today's d warrants a big exhale so just to come up for breath and go back to the theme of raid that we began last night and that is the of the para of the again in the spirit of learning real right now just to talk different related specifically the component discusses is when the yidden came up to build the second base onto how did they know we are the we know the we've mentioned it so many times that the right it's such a sensitive matter to make sure that you get the m right mish to a science and the question is when the yidden came up in the beginning of Sheni after the Bikto had been destroyed there was no remnant of the Bikto how did they know where the Mak was and the Gumar gives different suggestions says they saw the a of there and they knew where the had taken place and had taken place on the mock ham So when they saw the exactly where the was there's a similar in this is also on the base is discussing a different that talks about there was a was going to bring a terrible and it says as this hash is taking place see something and because of what and the brings a discussion different said what exactly was it says you want to know he saw the saw the apher of and when he saw the apher of he decided the to stop to do this another discussing the ritualistic procession that took place when it hadn't rained for a very long time or they never had a fast. So the different things that they used to do, one of the things they did was is they would take and they would put it says why did they do this once said what they were trying to say was they wanted to humiliate themselves. We're so humble. We feel so neric right now. We feel like the other one said they were trying to be the of the and they would put apher this that's what they're trying to accomplish again this of one last everybody knows it's in the par the says in the middle of the says I'm going to remember the office or actually brings from that ask why is it that it says the words it says the word it doesn't say the But when it comes to it just says it doesn't say the words. So it says always looks at them as and he always sees the and being that he always sees the he doesn't have to remember it. You only have to remember something that's out of sight. Right? But if you see it, then you don't have to remember it. It's right in front of you. And being that so it's for that reason, it's not something that ever has to be remembered. But we have four that we just quoted. We have that said. We have thear said that this says this shot in the says you want to know what he saw he saw and that was we have the used to put when they fasted why and again we have brings so comes back there's no reason to but we have And there's more by the way, but four kazars that mention this idea of what does it mean? Never became a never happened. Wanted to do it. He was about to do it. But as he took the all of a sudden the Malik came and the Malik said, but the bottom line is it never happened. And so if it never happened what's all these what does it mean on that asks this and the mar says what does it mean what it means is the apher of the that was brought what does this mean so quotes that We spoke about last night where Ashi says that when brought the says he brought and what does it mean that he brought the point is that the of the was brought it was it So this is really a misnomer. What it means is the of that was brought. But that has a because it's for that reason we refer to it. We refer to it says but says we don't mean literally because there was no never turned into this what says and that is very very much the but I'll tell you what that I saw in the kados from and that is as follows the pik says that built his and he took the and he laid them out on the and then he tied up his son and he placed him on the on top of the so the says is getting ready takes the top of the then he takes and he ties him down. That's why it's called and now he even takes and he puts him on the we're on the and then he lifts out his hand and then all of a sudden everything comes to a screeching halt. What about the fire had fire right? And you know had fire the says he took fire with him. In fact, said that the says, right? So, there's a few mentions of the fire when takes and he lays him out on the don't say anything about the fire. It just says and then he's ready to go ahead and do the so what about the fire? So why brings from who says it's posit that didn't light the fire yet he's going to first and then after him he's going to do some sort of he's going to light the fire on the and then afterwards there's going to be some sort of but at this point is just lying on the there's no fire the fire is there the fire is there at this second right now he hadn't put the fire yet on top of the but if you take a look at their says wise on this p the says he put them on top of the fire to light the he put it on top of the fire now the doesn't mention the fire I hear but the bottom line is the one of the says that when the were put down the ta put down on top of the fire the truth is it's This is and he tied down his two hands and his two feet and he tied him on the and then he went and he prepared the fire and then he put the on top of the fire and he put on top of the which is already on top of the right? He held down because you imagine the fear and what's going on over here and she's putting his whole weight on him to then all of a sudden the voice comes out and says don't go a step further. That's what happened. If you take a look at the in his on the says that the fire was there. It's not mentioned anywhere in the spir that he followed the laws of and he brought that the way you're supposed to bring a carbon. Now when it comes to a carbon the says And THIS WAS A CARBON WHEN YOU GO ahead and it has to be and if that's the case there had to be first and then after maybe you could say just picture this is lying right now in a fire. Can you imagine what this fire looked like? It's not like a little stove top fire. It's a real fire. And he's lying on the fire. And now takes the bas comes out and SAYS, "STOP. DON'T GO ANY FURTHER. You know what is you talking to?" He got a little bit burnt. And if he got a little bit burnt, there was a that could be is the Aadi wasn't burnt with Gamry. That's not what happened. Oh, he was a stickle burnt. And being that he was a stickle burnt, he was a stickle burnt. So it could be and it's that little stray for the fact that HE GOT SINGED. THAT'S the and says in the narrative I don't have a mahal of what it would mean. The terrace is this what's going on over here. He brings and the truth is if you want to be in this a little bit more if you look in the later here in his pish inf it's brings a that says that burnt leg when he was on the right we know say that it was which just to be clear the fact that say was parkish has nothing to do with the because just means right that's what it means it was parkish of the overwhelming nature spirit spiritual physical what was going on over here but nothing happened to his go that wouldn't explain the operation but there is a med that says that he burnt then was says you don't have to get into all that you could say he was lying on top of the fire and mean that he was lying on top of the fire abyssal he got burnt that little bit that he got burnt is and if that's it could be that's what's could be that's what's going on over here Pock King.