Zevachim 85

Today's is and we are three lines from the bottom of today's being learned as and so we're moving along in the very beginning of perks which of course is one of the proced with the deals primarily with the laws of which is one of the themes that underpins literally the entire even literally one of the big big big foundational principles of the entire and on that note another very classic said if somebody would check at night inside the so far so good that's very bad because has to be during the day that's good so really heed the was a good thing the problem is he did the and afterwards he would take theim of that animal and he would be milled outside of is that it would be for so the background is something that of course we know and that is that had to be done in the mdash couldn't be done outside the bd if somebody would be not only is he being in the but it's from the he would be now one of the basic tenets of is that the says if you have a you're supposed to be if you now go and you're not doing what you were supposed to do and it's for that reason it's for that reason you're going to be in the words of the you were supposed to have brought it to the you were supposed to have done the in the mdash but you did not do it there and it's for that reason you're going to be from as I learned that if somebody would or an animal that was such that if he wanted to do the he would not have been allowed to he would not be stating that if somebody and he's why is it because if someone those right now are apostle and being that thoseim are so it's for that reason it's not anymore. And if that's the case, you would think that you should not be able to be or that if you're shouldn't be that is that you're still going to be. Now, Rashi speaks out. It's the last that we had in yesterday's whether or not if someone and then go on the law said there's three in the where the talks about and we learn from there. But according to if somebody an animal is that it's bey says according to that although is a and as a result there's no to be but being that there is a par of so it's included in and it's for that reason is even according to however says who holds that if someone's not only is there no but even so there it's Now what's the reason now mean was only saying so you could tell me the reason is because it's no different than any other Allah on some level it is but if you're telling me that true so it's not conformed forming with the rules and regulations of what needs to be checked off in order to be to the parish of so why then are you going to be continued on explained he said I'll tell you why because it's impossible that should be any worse than what does this mean so for this also really we have to know actually gives it a shout out. But the Gmorra learns from that if somebody would and then he would be of animal. Why is it? Because if you it's definitely not so you're not conforming with based on we learn that if someone's and then those same that same animal you're going to be once I know that almost like a it's inevitable it's not possible that if somebody would Because what's worse said if someone's for sure if someone and someone if someone he has to be as well ask from if somebody would and it would be he would be potter is a problem. Why? because he's supposed to do not with a knife. He's supposed to do Malik with a knife. So if somebody is obviously so if you're gonna be stating that if somebody would and be he would be now that's like a double if somebody and number one why if the was it's right you had no option to bring it into so why should you be but this is like a beta because over here you didn't even do the right with the animal cuz you were supposed to have done a malik and you ended up doing so there were two issues number one it was not number two it was it was not but here too based on ash and quotes what the is that if somebody would and he would be he would be but bottom line if Someone checks an and he's going to be yet if someone and he's going to be said according to your methodology. What's worse if someone or if somebody of course if somebody yet it's that if somebody and he's but if somebody and he's going to be potter which undermines your is right because you see clearly despite the fact that is going to say two roots and the first terret is an easy terror and there is no terret it's checkmate is absolutely positively says alternatively meaning like the first terret meaning the is but if you want to try to make it work I could always tell It could be an is worse than a what's the is when you didn't even kill it in the way that the prescribed that you're supposed to kill it. It's like you put a bullet in its headto klay. It's just literally killing it. That's push. If you would take an animal that's cotch and you would be k and you would want to be milim now you wouldn't be over the because you didn't even do the that's this animal right now for for the future for sure is exempt from as opposed to somebody over there even though the was not a you killed it in the way that you're supposed to kill such an animal. I mean that you killed it in the way that you're supposed to kill such an animal over there the would be that and you're going to be so the says first part of the why is it because the rule that governs and over here you didn't have the option to be because the was stating that based on if over you have to be here as well even though the same and says two roots it could be is no as opposed to that of course is in order to be it can't be a you can't have no you have to have you don't have to be I know because I have the butch that you have to have either way we now turn our attention to the next part of the and really these next few words that we're going to learn now we saw already at the very very beginning of the paric it was literally the first par And it's from the grace of over here in the if would take the he would put it on the he wasn't m it yet but he put it on the misb he did it before and the reason is because it becomes So, a couple of things. First of all, went on the and then from the went into the fire. But first, you had to be theim to be able to go on the misb and it was that was m. So, the fact that these went on that's where there's a that's where something was done improperly. In this case, said that if you would take the you would put them on the even though you would think get them right down because they're not yet to go on the you need to be that's a very fancy way of saying and it's for that reason. But notice how said he said it specifically with regards to as opposed to now that's if then would also be the reason is saying he wants you to know that this is not only true for is true forum as well. So why would there be a kil in between kachce kadashim and kachum kum? The reason is because kadash we know is called hashem we know is not called kache where this is very very neg we know that a person is not hectish if you know a little bit more you know that it's not all hectish that you're not from it's only hectish that we deem to belong to when it's when there's where it's not there's no super high level kadashim is always considered kachim is not considered stating that there are times that becomes note and there are times that becomes. For example, being that it's no longer considered and as a result not subject to evil where they have a den to go on his oh now it belongs to you're serving it up to so now that does have a is saying that even though it's not if it's note it's not to is wakes up in the morning as even you need to DO A TO BE moderate to actually be able to do the but it has the kaduca that it needs it has the requisite sanctity to have a to be able to go on the so it's not such a that if you put it on the next even though you didn't do this that the is going to be but where it's not just a mice It's sanctity that it needs to have a to even comment on what said he said from our because the session now this is a was very much between regarding Three types of whether we say or says always going to be says there three examples which we spoke about a second ago but two of the three we debate whe is regarding so we're going to focus now on We'll see what the speak in a minute. But the you learn the on the simplest level is proving from say if the would go to try to do now with the would he have dam to do with? Of course not. Why not? Because the dam is pos if he wanted to do this he could do this just means he didn't do this yet but if you want to go do this of course he'd be able to do this then certainly in other words said like this in that case did you do this did you not do this of course you didn't do this because even if you did this it's What kind of would that be? So obviously you didn't do this. Even if you wanted to do this, you couldn't do this. So says, what do I see from here? Number one, I see that you put a would be where do I see that? Because in that case, it's not even worse than that. But you didn't do now. It's a culture game because over the year not only didn't I do I don't even have the option to do. So my it works with the first of the said I'll prove from the fact that so certainly we're going to be right again over there. IF YOU WANTED to do this ro you wouldn't be able to ambit still what did say over here in's case if you wanted to do this he could do this like certainly would be says that from the simple reading of the it sounds like the clearly right that's why we read it a second time to bring out that point the is clearly asking for so it sounds a little bit like from but says in the beginning of the parag also that that it's not that is only for meaning even though the is saying it from but really could be the as well and the reason is because even though holds it could be that Because meaning the is for that's the you want to the if holds him there he would have to hold him over here but it could be that is true even I'll leave it and that's the says and that's because it could be that even It's it's not because of the fact that it's anything it's the fact that it's in itself doesn't bother me. It's the fact that but the bottom line is said I have a very good right an amazing and even says there's no who said the cases and talking about where was maybe he's talking about where again we mentioned that is not aim is and why is that an extra you would think before says even by you have that it's true that if the dam is pos even by you see it by a carbon maybe it's only true by you Noah is screwed by column. And it's for that reason says the gam is not a butra says the gum brought the long on the bottom of that mention of so it went through all the different right when you say this when you say that and one of the that was mentioned was that's a classic example of a carbon that's possible the gumar assumes that if pes is mentioned mentioned in the latter part of the probably all the that I mentioned in the earlier part of the relate to the PES as well. Now it says that's fine but the point is all the should be true for and everything in between. It's certainly what it sounds like. So you see clearly that when it says means even by which and then you have it could be when it says only referring to that one case but that's referring only to and if that's the case you have no right to say even another attempt to try to prove or disprove the Mishna said this was the very very end of the any animal that goes on the as much as with regards to him but if the animal's alive then not says the what does it sound like it sounds like if the animal's alive but that's the animal wouldn't be alive you would do a even if you didn't do a that's the punch line now the Mishna said what does sound like all animals and it's then that even by that's included in that once you do at that point is going to be but says it says not with regards to doesn't even talk about what does it say on whipping that It's that even says the no it could be. That's true. What's the dick that when it comes to it's not sometimes but not when's it going to be? If it's when's it going to be if it's going to be if the kum was going on the what's implied from the Mishna again the Mishna says something explicitly and implicitly explicitly the Mishna says that if an animal goes on the implicitly if an animal goes on if the is going on what's implied from the oh all animals even are on the that's but it didn't save the on what's implied from the says the was only going on what's in the what's in the is that if the animals alive then you have to take it off is going to be the only going on and what's the implication the implication is that you're not going to have the what will the be maybe the is going to be sometimes and sometimes but the bottom line is says that it could be there's no riot here from because it could be that the is going on what's it inside it says right the is going on the is going on what's in the not That's implied from the says that I have a problem with that because if that's the case it's meaning is going on what's implied from the so I understand why the had to say the word mean everything it's not just flowery there's a over here the is not only even the is but if you're going to tell me that is going on there's a that when an animal's alive is And it doesn't matter if it's who cares if it's it's live animals should not be and as long as you tell me that if you feel you have to tell it to me tell it to me and you don't have TO TELL ME SAY IF the is going on what's implied and what's not in the I understand why we said but if you're telling me that is going on what's the And I certainly don't need the just explain this a drop better theor is arguing that the only reason the Mishna even said is to teach me what's implied because the is so the whole reason I'm telling you this line is what's implied except the whole purpose of the is to tell me what's implied then for sure that the kan is coming to explain what's implied because the only reason I'm even talking to you is for that I don't need the vakulan for what stayed in the furish cuz I don't even need what stayed in the furish I'm only telling you what state in the furish so you should be able to be mad so for sure the is only going on the dick now why isn't it so partial to the that if an animal goes on it's going to be that the is going on the de so this is something we're going to talk about the but just in the case we don't right just in terms of what's rash speaks out in the gum and that is that the the holds it's posit that the of is only an animal that's possible it's not an animal that's the obviously deal with a animal because it's alive what's the so we'll see in a second but the assumption is what's the so it's that an animal that's alive doesn't have a d of malu why the sight of a maluer is that leave it there because if you take it off. You're not going to be able to put it back on. But if I have an animal that's kosher, so why should I have to leave it there? Let me take it off and I'll put it back on afterwards. So to tell me that a live animal has a diner is why is it? Cuz why should there be a dinner? The animals alive. I'll take it off. I'll do the put it back on. Like what's the issue over here? It doesn't make any sense that it should be must be the must be going on that. And if that's the case that even this would be a but I'll tell you is going on what was the going on the whole of so why would I even need the word you're assuming that when it said the is talking about a kosher animal a regular good animal that's kosher that you could do that went on that's not what The Mishna is talking about the Mishna is talking about a case of it's talking about a case where there was an animal that was alive and it had and even though it has because it's alive and that's because and if you take this animal off to not going to be able to put it back so I would have thought maybe that is going to because of the fact that it's a light. Now if this is what the Mishna means, if this is what the Mishna means, first of all, it gives purpose to the Mishna. So that's very good. There's a over here. Not telling you something that's only for the it's a little right. No, I'm telling you something that uh you need to know. But we have to come up with a case because that means we have a situation now where the Misha is talking about an animal where while the animal is alive and has a soul, it's that if it had it But because it's alive, what is that? If you go back to the Mishna come out every single with the it's that happened while you're doing the you did a bad right something happened in the course of doing the thoseim are inherently only once the animal's dead. You can't have when you're alive. or examples of with the animals alive. Well, the problem is all those are notes and per the all those cases are. So if you're going to tell me because it's alive even though this is but because it's alive is going to be well now you have a little answering because you got to tell me what the case is because all the cases that I'm aware of that are all those cases are only you can't have that while it's alive and all the I'm aware of that an animal can have while it's alive if it would be a malu. So what's the case where it's alive it's a malu but where it's not alive it's a malu this is what the next word of gar is coming to address I'll tell you the case which by the way gets us out of a lot of jams in right how many times but that's the proverbial if you know you know but the bottom line is the case is talking about where the animal had a it was where it was in the CATARACT OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAID IN the but that's only true once the animal already is not alive. But if the animal was alive and it had that being that it's alive an animal that's alive and that's why it's going to be but here's the bottom line. The bottom line is you have no over here to the reason is because when the Mishna says all the cases where they went on the it's not talking about where the animals were kasher if it's not talking about where the animals were. So then the of the line is what the Mishna is saying. It's not the And if that's the case, it could be that the is only true on what's in the but only on what's not on the because as relates to that could be only some would be others not. The bottom line is we're not talking about we're talking about the you have no over here. But has a little bit of an issue with this says you're telling me that when the said what are we talking about? We're talking about where the animal was possible. Look at the next line of the next line of that if would go alive on top of would be right. It sounds like it's the same continues and says it's just an example. You would do you do the on top of Mishna says that if you would an So you would do if the latter part of the M is talking about where the animal was like right if that's the case is a animal that's ple even subject to the laws of we have a that teaches me that you don't do on an animal that's possible. So if that's the case when the Mishna says it has to be talking about where the animal was and you have to say that you're right there's no because you're telling me it's would be the next part but part of it has to be talking about where the animals because if the animal's puzzle doesn't make any sense. So if the was talking about what the animal's kasher then the also has to be talking about what the animal was ker and if the animal's ker that means the is not the what's explicit but rather what's implicit and if that's the case you have a right to say it could be between the part of the do that's talking about where it was possible what kind of even though once it's dead but while it's alive I'll tell you another that's a live animal that goes on the right but another example of a live animal that goes on the and that is where you had an that was that's it doesn't say cooling over there so we're not going to get excited over that but that's you want to know what the is the next case if you did the go ahead and do the in fact say my commercial what would be the is the And as we'll see in one second, it's really what would be the reason not to. By the way, it's not because it's not a good, it's because it's just inappropriate to do on top of. So the would be that's all good if you hold that. But according to the man that holds now what? Now I'm really going to be stuck. So what's going on over here? If you hold so I can tell you the safe is talking about where it was. But if you hold so then you can't tell me it's talking about where it's because now we have to explain this a little bit better. It's going to segue into the next part of the without this little segue. The Mishna says that you're supposed to do I know that Mand has to go back and learn again. It's a cash is not on the cash is on that. What do you mean it's the ter is where it's WHERE IT'S I HAVE THE OPTION NOT to do it. So if I could do it it's inappropriate. That's what he said. It's a mocker. It's just inappropriate to do it. But if it's pussle where if I take it off the I won't be able to put it back on the misb. So then for sure it would make sense that even if you hold ordinarily it's just inappropriate to do but now what am I supposed to do? I'm stuck. So for sure I should do a soar just is if you hold you're gonna have to learn that the safer of the Mishna is talking about where it was possible and be that it's possible it's I don't have the option TO TAKE IT OFF now keep it there and even do the but we're trying to figure out that just that when the Mishna says is it talk about where it was pos so first the assumed that it's talking about where it was possible because if the previous case was possible to be well then the safe talking about it's possible as well but the said it can't be because okay so you'll tell me it's talking about it but that's only going to be good if you hold that but if you hold in other words if you hold a little bit stuck over here because how you going to learn the last part of the you're going to tell me to talk about where it was. Take it off. Why are you doing the talk on the top of his so what? It's take it off. You'll put it back on afterwards. And if it's talking about where it was then there's no at all. So the say that according to the that holds the way you're going to have to learn the is talking about it's talking about where the animal became possible a whole different case. It's not this is a whole different case. is talking about a case where it became possible after the so there was a and then it became possible and it's going to do and the was meaning there was a where you were able to do at that point even though now that it's possible you won't be able to do but at the same time there is a mitzvah of half and you give the that's where at least we'll get the but the point is you see there's an Indian of said there could be in a situation where you have a that's ple where there was a you'll have to say that's what the case was talking about. So again you have three options almost how to learn the end of the Mishna either the end of the says is talking about where it was it was a soul of the problem with that is then suggested maybe it's talking about where it was and even though the case right before that was talking about where it's possible But maybe this part is talking about words, right? What's the the is both cases of a live animal that went on having a conversation whether it's going to be thear said that's great but that'll only work according to the third option is it's talking about where it was possible but not a like maybe the case right before that is talking about one but rather it's talking about where it had a in fact you did all and after the that's when it became name and over there even though it's possible ordinarily there's no but there's an idea that once there's a at that point there is a and even if you hold but that it's possible so you can't take it off and it's for that reason you're going to have to keep it on but has one follow-up kasha on all this and this followup is from a right elaborated a little of the what should you do with that case again with the and you so what did the Mishna say then it but the B elaborate says what do you do you take the and you go ahead and you wash them now we have the gears over here lally if you look in the mubetes so there's a different gear Right? If it's talking about where it was possible, that's one mahal of how to learn that last line of the Well, what do you mean? What are you doing? You're going to take it off to At that point, you're not going to be able to put it back on. If you're going to tell me that part of the is talking about where it was, okay, then that will work. But according to so you're going to be forced to learn that that part of the mish is talking about where it was pled or if it's pled you did the then you took the all dirty and you wash them what's that all about lumbly is why am I doing it says once you take it off it's not just ly I'm not going to be able to put it back on so the says I'll tell you why because hey what's a better option. You want to be in that form when it's sitting in all the that's not a good idea, right? That's not an option. So, of course, you have to take it off and wash it. What do you want to do? Leave it there? Can't wash on. So, you want to leave it? That's not an idea. The mak ask like this. What's the point of being of washing it? That's uh pointless because once I take it off, I'm not going to be able to put it back on the mb and if I'm not going to be able to put it on the mb. So, what's the idea of of washing it? So, the says actually learn this is a ter right like this. If there's going to be a cayenne who doesn't know that it became puzle. So uh c like that if he ends up putting it back on the misbak. So like this he will have put it back on the in a way where it was allowed to go on the says what you're doing it. So like this a case by mistake does aar I mean I know is now and the theme is doing with but we're not going to encourage to go ahead and do ankar that doesn't seem very reasonable says you're right by us washing it you're actually almost encouraging the to go ahead and do but at the very least at least won't be you want to know why you take it off you take it off not to put it back on you take it off to take it off. We don't want to cut with a also if going to go in and do at least do in a way where the animal was at the very least wash but the fact that we take it off is not that it was puzzle because we're not going to be the way it is right now. The thought was why are you taking it off? You won't be able to put it back on. That only makes sense if when it's on the misb you can be mocked. But being that even if it's on the misb you have no ability to be mocked. So for that price we might as well take it off. Take it off wash it. I you're making a little bit of a takam you are making a little bit of a ta at the end of the day it sort of is what it is. Either way this concludes not the part of the daf. doesn't the Garra is going to continue along the theme of Ulu but at the very least the Gumar is analysis of the end of the Mishna because really if you do aum on the last 20 or so minutes the Gar just did a deep dive in terms of understanding the last part of the Mishna I'm sorry how did this get involved in because the thought is not aesh thought it's talking about where the animal was a kasher animal. So there's no that it's if it's what's the that is why should you leave it there? What's the point? Only reason you would leave it there is because it's possible. You won't be able to put it back on. But in this situation, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to take it off. The is probably only if it's as opposed to what if even and it says oh must be even. So this theor thought was a big riot to and that's how we got into this whole and all theuries and trying to understand the latter part of the because the said that this whole is predicated on the assumption that the is talking about the animal was if it's there's no in what's the is only in what's implied and the must be going on what's implied and if that's the case but I'll tell you it could be the when it says it's about where it was and that is in of itself. It's not even talking about this has nothing to do with the reason this wasn't so is because the thought is talk about where it's possible then and is also talking about where it was possible. Okay, let it be talking about where it's possible. I'll tell you why. because it has and there's no when it comes to right. So for that really had two either the is it talking about where it's talking about words. So talking about where it was. Doesn't it sound like one flow? Yeah. It's a live animal one and that's what we're talking about with regards to but it's not one is talking about where it's one the other is talking about where it's kasher said it could be the latter part of also talking about where it's poss when it comes to but if there was a shas Then already there would be either way a postcript to the sugish postcript but purposes it's going to go pretty quickly so underrated right so he reports in the name of his that had the following Sounds familiar. That's what the name of wasn't sure, right? Why was the Shiloh only with regards to whether or not the is should have had the same exact Shiloh whether or not there's going to be in other words there's no like we mentioned earlier maybe once it goes on at that point gives it a should be subject to no I didn't because what creates coming. The bottom line is was to sh and he said like that was to him that just going on wouldn't give it had a different version of the name according to this version was with regards to why you only regarding me you should declare him That's I want to know that right now that it has are you going to say that there's maybe all of a sudden going to becomes so in terms of what he was the same thing. The question was what was and what was he about in the first it was that there's no according to the second it was that was not like we said this is not a hard to learn takes about a minute and a quarter but in terms of lumbus here there's a lot of lus here we learn so we're going to so the Mishna then went and talked about again different examples of when it's a muer And the said that any animal that is possible and what were the examples this is the so that quote that comes up so often comes from every other time we're just quoting this right this is the actual source said in the regards to an heab. Now to be clear, it doesn't mean only. It means any m that's similar to the m of and the reason is unique is because the m of is that doesn't apply to an and being that it doesn't apply to an it's over there there was what does this means again we know these already when it comes to there's no of m stating that if is if missing a limb. So then already it would be possible. What is saying is that a m that is not a that's a lesser level. such a that is going to be but a m that is that's going to be that is and over there is going to be because it's not meaning another thing said the only time it's going to be true that's going to be if first animal was hectish and then afterwards it developed But at first it had a and then it became and the reason is because once an animal has a even you can't be to the level that it's going to be like it won't be again there's a hundred that are just flying through and permeating today's that we've made introductions to over the years that we can't really go through properly now but we know that that kin could be either orious once an animal has If you're you can't give it the would be means that its value has an animal that starts off and then develops a it doesn't lose its status of of the bottom line is in that situation it's going to be okay. If however first it got its and then it got the is hold simply because it doesn't have the requisite that if you have a carbon that's so we know has to be can't be comes with Is there meaning if somebody would be with the animal now become ava or not do we say it says in the does it say that the second compar not and from we learn that an animal that's can't go on. It could be the only time an animal could become a nurva is if the animal could also be a less of ava. But maybe if the animal can't be a can't be a just to explain that's part if somebody is there's no sh he's doing something very very bad. The question is that right now does it have does it not have what's it sounds like we're equating the so could be an animal that could be either a or ava is subject to the but an animal that can't be a could only be a nurva is not subject to the of a nurva. So here's the matus that actually speaks out an can't be a he could be a nurva but he can't be a just mitus. So if that's the case that was so do you say no at the end of the day was done was done said I'll bring you a very from our mission said that even though is but at the same time as it relates to it's going to be and what's the said and that's why he said because it's all based on the fact that now if you're going to tell me like that what that there's no when it comes to that there is when it comes to I'll bring you also a from these. What does that mean? It means that if you have a and it has one of these and now it's right it's a lot of things. It's if you put it in your you'll become and you will become as well. What do you see from here? That there's when it comes to course if there's no when it comes to then why are you telling me there's no such in the world must be there is this is another right two going back to the Mishna mentioned this is of course fame so said obviously was a he would always push away the woman from the so the says what exactly is coming to be meaning sounds like in the whether you say so he clearly holds not let it be but what's He coming to be tomorrow says two suggestions he's just coming to tell you a story right it's always more when you have a real life than if you just know the that's what means right the trumps that even though he did it but he was it would do he would do it like with a he would do it nobody's looking but he wouldn't do it in a way that it was public so the is not so much that I hold not like that's not his point his point is he would do it in a very adal way he would do it even if you don't take it and just throw it even though sometimes they threw kachum right the name is to throw so there's flying sometimes on the but at the same time when it comes to this he was he didn't just throw it Going back to the Mishna said a very very big line just like so. Yeah. The the puzzles on the so now you leave it there but let's say it comes off the you don't put it back on. So this next is also oolah and like the first memor of this is another mera that reverberates through the mish in the world of kachchin and that is said the only time this is true that a carbon ple that was if it goes off the mak just like when it was on we said leave it there now that it's off we're going to say leave it there again that's only true if it was if the fire didn't take control over it meaning it was on the but not in the fire of the if it's actually in the fire of the then already it's going to be different why even if it's a little bit but the better known gear says it's because it becomes and once it's in the fire now it's already that it's so at that point is not only now is also when it's only on the but once it goes into the fire it's not and once that happens now it's going to be would say meaning the first the learned the we just quoted a second ago would say that's a mission we're going to see in tomorrow's These are all parts of the animal that have no dent to go on the if they're attached to the animal then you throw it in. You don't have to start taking off the hooves of the of the animal before you put it on the if they fell off you don't put them on. And on that said that's only true that you don't put these on the if didn't get into the fire yet. But once it was in the fire at that point, it's going to have a den to put on the misb. So according to the first gear is said as the of apostle apostle that when it's on the comes off it's only once or at that point you're going to put on according to the second he's not even talking about our talking about the next and all these things have no once it's at that point is you have a put it on his back so says mad The one that had on the second certainly under things that have no at all is once it's now well certainly then as it relates to which has it in the problem is it's once it's even if it's going to be the one that but as relates to that it's over there. You're not going to have a den to put it on the misbehad. I think it's kadai to go back to the first rashi of perh because to an extent in that rashi it's and speak out three all from the brisk that relate to the entire per but emerge very much from that very very first rash. So what does rashi say? means what? So three in no particular order actually the first is learned out as we saw from the is the talking about the it says the should anything that touches the shall become. And from those words outlined that even that touches the once you touch the at that point right just to try to visualize the the P in the what the T is saying is that within the A and the Shakash there was a misbeha that if something touched touches the misbeha. So you'll learn says the and you're going to learn kchin and you're going to find out that there's a MILLION DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN cause an animal to be pussle and you can't put it on the but just means you don't go near the because you're impure. If something touches you, you become think of the you attach yourself to kadusha you become of that's the premise that's what underpins stating that in the lumbus of what we see is that is manifest in one way and one way only and that is right that's what is of the is what happens if the apostle that's on the mb goes off to that's the person that had to bring a carbon and the carbon became possible now that apostle is on the let's say it's on right now are you going to get no of course you're not going to get ritzu you're going to have to bring a new carbon the of with all the that's entangled in it. At the end of the day, it's manifest with regards to and that is that's in terms of the way the is manifest stating that embraced in terms of why it is that is only with regards to specifically not with regards to and that is is the The is only true while the repostle is on the means that if you attach yourself to the right now you're touching you're going to have the puzzle right now is on the you want to know why when it goes off the because now it doesn't have anymore being that it doesn't have anymore is going to IT'S ONLY WHEN IT'S THAT IT HAS THE KADUSHA. But if you're not on the mak, so now you don't have the kadusha anymore. So if you're touching a hot stove, so right now you're you're in contact with something very hot. You take your finger off, you're not on it anymore. So is the only time because that's when you HAVE THE KADUSHA. SO WHILE IT'S on the so you have once it goes off the you lose the kadusha that could be thead the is something that the puzzle takes with it even when it goes off to the reason why is because the is only it's not in the kadusha it's because the kadusha gives me a very limited and that it gives me is is it doesn't give me the say is the reason because once it's off doesn't have kadusha but if it had the kadusha then a would be just like in or is a has the kadusha once you touch the misbeh at that point you're always going to have the kadusha even when you take it off it's just that the kaduca could only give me A DEN OF IT doesn't have the ability to give me a den of y. This is a grace and they say over there a barrel brought from it's beyond the scope of what we're doing right now. But maybe we'll get to it another day. That's the first that comes from. Where do you see this in this is the intro of it's that is only with regards to or could be would be with regards to also the only reason it's not milo is because then it doesn't have the kadu It only has the kadush. But if it's not being at that point, you don't have the kadush. The second that they say over in brisk is that the brisk was rashi starts off aule. It sounds like from rashi that kasher also has the ofad say we're going to have to make believe we didn't learn today's d for one minute. The peric of msbades is talking about right that's what's going on in the beginning of perbades is msadesh also if something is not poss you'll say what do you mean you have to leave it there said you touch you they can't get off THE ONCE YOU'RE ON THE YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK NOW BECOME according to the once you go off to you lose that is you have a right to do THAT YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT NOW YOU STAY ON the issel or is it true for as well soak said it's the first words of the and from the words of it sounds very that is the truth is said it's come it's talking about a live animal that went now we have to remember today's stuff a little bit if you have a you could do picking sides one and then you take the off the you watch them we saw that in today's that was the and then you put them back on you take down the says the why are you doing this for you have an animal the animal is a animal there's no mention wasn't it's a regular ker animal and says do Take the down. This goes down. This goes up. The raom gives you a whole of how you do it. Why you doing this? that it's the way the learned of today's but it's that says that it's not only true it's true even but as it relates to caution you're going to have this but there was one problem there was one problem that the briskov had and that is had is it with the garra that we learned today where the garra said it says in the mishna the kon sha Any animal that went on alive is the assumed that it's talking about where the animal was caution and the said it's so posh that if the animal is alive and it's under that is going to be the assumed must be not that when it's alive but and to teach is right and then that was the more complicated part of today's but the bottom line is said that if it's and it's alive says it's the it's that it's going to be why is to p it because you'll BE ABLE TO PUT IT BACK ON AFTERWARDS anyways because we're dealing with it's said actually seems to be saying the reason it was to the if the animals alive and it's because only makes sense if it's poss comes from from a need. The need is that if I take it off, I won't be able to put it back on. I have no way to be mocked to this. So then we say there's but if I have a caution that if I take it off the I'll be able to put it back on anyways. So then what's the whole point? If you look at the when it says when it went it's talking about where it was possible and it's going It's going who holds when explains goes again with the same kakashi that it's talking about where it was poss. And now that it's possible, I'm going to take it off. I won't be able to put it back on. It's for that reason the Mishna had to say but said the whole in this is learning up that whole it's based on the fact that only makes sense where if I take it off I won't be able to put it back on is a say from but to the extent where if it was be you don't need what came first she came first. That is what precedes their but here's the bottom line said it's actually that the whole only makes sense when you're dealing within it doesn't make sense when you're doing now is right what are you going to do now with the so the truth is the mock to learn the garra that when the gar said the gar didn't mean because of the fact that it's kosher because there's no dim when it comes to you could have learned that when the gar said the garment because it's now even though the garra is going to say in the that's where it's how you would have to learn the gar the gum itself is not but did learn this way and because rashi did learn this way so at the end of the day it sounds like is that there's no dim when it comes to this is what the medak in the problem is we have a little bit of a serious because which sounds like himself is being that it's only true by but if it's a you're not going to have the so in they say that it could be what Rashi meant when he said he meant to say that even a draustle not has a dinner of a but even a dra pusle has that it should be that it should have a not to take it off. That's only true by where it's you're not going to be able to put it back on. But that's how they but the bottom line is that's the second the third and this is the last final but the most important it's something we've spoken about already in the course of says what does that is even the word le just grammatically speaking is a little tricky. What does this mean? So I think it's good to just go through this for a minute and that is in the you see there's two levels. There's stating that second big memor over there the is that it's it's going to be there's two levels in the world of there's one level where the thing touches the it's and then there's where it's when Now we're ready. We ratchet it up a whole another level. Now it's now it's so too it's going to be it's going to go in the reverse. Now it's going to be a Y. That means there's two levels over here. There's the level of and that's when it's just and then there's where it's where it's even more than that. Now it's not only going to be now it's going to be as well. If you take a look at as long as it makes a little bit of contact because at that point it becomes it's that is that when it's at that point it becomes and it sounds like the The reason it's now going to be not only but also is because when the becomes now it has a den not only from it also has a which would imply then you have to work through this thought process that it only touches the and it wasn't at that point it's not yet at that point all it is is has some sort of but says when it becomes which happens when it's or it's in the fire at that point not only is it going to be as well when it only touches the so there the is not enough for because it's not yet it's going to be but it's not going to be the we spoke at earlier that's the first of the three but the bottom line is there's two levels there's level and then there's the yu level they're both sometimes you can put it back on sometimes not when it's then you put it back on when it's not not that's right I don't think we said any we're just learning the the a little bit with that once it's and at that point it's not only going to be it's going to be as one other and that is we spoke This is gimble and this is that we're learning right now said what's the when it's one side had was that the gather is that once it's goes away and that goes away so now you can go you can put on right because The fire of the has an ability to go ahead and make make completely go away. The gather of where the is going to be is not because the fire of the makes go away. The is still there means with all your with all the you still have a to go under. That's the is that you become there's a new par that's known as said it's the you have the how do you know for sure you have the because the had said that was said not regarding the that we learned already but the we're going to learn the said is that if it's pu ordinarily don't put it on But if have no there's nothing pussle about it that says you can't go ahead and be what is the of their in that they don't have a there's no they just don't have a they don't have ace at that point from here that has an ability not just to remove but to ACTUALLY GIVE YOU A MEAN WHAT'S the doesn't make any sense now they're apostles so you'll tell me maybe removes IT BUT DON'T HAVE a so what's this DEN NOW PUT IT ON the misb must be once something is in the fire of the is in the clutches of the msb now gets a that's when now there's a to go ahead and be said I'll bring you another doesn't have what's the problem where it's why can't you put how would give you that you lack if it has it's law okay so this removes it removes law but said when it comes to it's not that I have something I'm not supposed to have. I'm lacking SOMETHING THAT I NEED. HOW'S if is like right think about it. That's what it sounds like. It's like it's like some super duper hagal. Okay. You could be mle me from today till tomorrow. If you something glass 100 times over, it's not going to become expensive China, right? It's not going to turn into gold or silver, right? It doesn't work that way. So, if I'm going in, I'm being muggled something. How's that giving me a so it's from there that together there is for sure when it comes to that it's not simply removing it's giving and it's the way it works that's the read because it gets a new talks about over there where it becomes that once it's at that point it becomes it literally becomes something that's part of the which is of right explain it one more time in a This is very critical usually when you talk about of a carbon. So to get there often is I have a carbon I have to do things with the carbon. I have to do with the dam with the I have to do with the I have to do a with a there's a regular what's the I brought this carbon and one of the mitzvah of this carbon is to go ahead and do a with certain parts of this carbon is a that's coming from a whole different place. It's a different it's like a different it's a different of it's not oh I brought a carbon and part of the carbon is a and I have to go ahead now and I have to be on the it's that I have something that's the fire already you know started eating it the right a crumb fell out of the mouth of the you have to go ahead and you have to take and you have TO PUT IT BACK ON THE OF is not THE now when it comes to the it's only true when it comes TO IT'S TRUE AND THAT'S THAT'S BUT THAT'S that's the that's what is said what's misses is one step before the mbach madesh is like Rashi says when something personal touches it gets a what's this not the dinar from a regular parish of aar because it's possible you can't be mad with something that's possible just like you can't do a with a double apostle you can't do a with a double apostle either but it gets a to make now it's not yet the because it's first going to be when it goes into the fire, but it has the kadusha where now there's an obligation to go ahead and make it will be when it's in the fire and once it's in the fire now it's going to have that when it touches the it gets a to become so misbeh The is very much talking to in fact you know what came first it's almost like came first being that there's a when it's learned up there's a new par of called it's for that reason now there's a par of which states that when the puzzle goes on the now it has a den to become sobb is on SOME LEVEL A RIGHT IT'S not just leave it there said the brisker of it's also not now I can go ahead and be no way in the world you're not going to be able to do that what it is is it's a new par that's that by the way is is a much more upgraded That is not only a that's a right that's when the is it gets a to go ahead and be so when the touches the it gets a what's the make it it's not yet it's going to become when it goes in the fire how do I know it's not yet because when it's going to be it's going to be And now it's so it's not yet but it got to do what was a new what was his and he said if that's the case that's always the way it works I know there's a new is now it gets a to go ahead and do that. Is there ever a mitas where I'm going to have a den to do the of the answer is yes. Where is it? That's what it is. So is not just leave it there. That's for sure not what it is. It's also not I can go ahead and do the regular. No way. How can you be ma with a double? No re that's coming from this a you're not going to be able to do that. What it is is a dinar. Not just leave it there but not the regular. It's what's that called? It's called when does it become when it's now it's not now it gets to become which is just another way of saying to do this that's it didn't become but the of the is go make that's what it is go do no not just Leave it there. Go ahead and do a gakar. The one that has to be jumping through the zoom right now. This is one and that is that was saying that the mahalak of how works is is it's so you have a to go ahead and do a it's not it's first going to become where it's first going to become when you actually have but right now right now it has a to become with It certainly sounds like from as soon as it becomes you don't have to wait until it's mushled in order to become it becomes right then and there. So I was discussing with this morning said in they say there are barrel assasses kasha to the brisk and this has an ensuing a tremendous with regards to this kasha the kasha is a good kasha seemed to say this is definitely an appropriate but at the end of the day the lumbus doesn't change the lumbus is that the way works is it's not just a but it's of not the regular but rather it's a of this new parish of and again now that we went through the three Rsades and certainly a sounds like there's even why would that be because maybe is only where I won't be able to put it back up but if I could put it back up maybe not even a puzzle But for sure is going to be true for double and it's that way in the way said it so clear that it's true even when it comes to the problem is that seems to say not that way and the way no you have to be maybe I feel not that there's a lawyer but I feel has a but either way I feel a puzzle not just leave it there and that now I could do the regular I should be able to do the what's regarding the other memor of but at the end of the day one thing and one thing only and here too we have the grace is the reason because it only has the kadusha as long as once it comes off to loses the kad doesn't pass anymore or could be the kad always going to have the kadusha it's just that the den of the kad the comes from this kad is only it's not yo either way we just learned one rash one rashi the very first rashi Your parents be the cabbage.