Menachos 49

Today's daff is meas and we are at the very top line of menes today's being learned as a mirror and so we're moving along in the fourth paris stating that we're not learning the part of rather we're learning the kum part of specifically the related to the unique set of carbon that were brought every year in the B mikdash on the yontiff of we went through the together in par were already several daffen into the so we know that on the basto there were carbon kosim and brought respectively. The was made up of 10 animals. The katas was one goat. The Schluman was made up of two sheep and the min was made up of He also talked a lot about the unique connection the relationship what the Gar call zika that existed between the known as the and the known as the we talked about how the was the we talked about how these gave to It upgraded it from we talked about how although the and are not of each other meaning you could bring one and not bring the other but when it comes to the and there's an idea that one is of the other is the additionally we saw that once you do the that is now a zika between the and at that point there's no question in the world the two are going to be of each other. Additionally, we talked a lot about what would be if the were brought at first glance, you would think it's what would be. As a matter of fact, it's the very first in all with the exception of the brought which means you could eat the bus or you could be oh the areims. If that's the case, it should be no different than any would be stating that we saw that when came from he that said is going to be possible and the reason is because the put the in the same exact as it did the and just like So to the are going to be possible as well. Either way, just a little bit of a smattering of some of the that we talked about. We have one moreish to go as it relates to this and then we're going to shift our attention in the world of but to another very global. First more about the were brought taught the following in the presence of Ravim. If the were brought the was done but the did the had in mind that he was bringing the are going to be. However, the will not satisfy their obligation of bringing the kayes with these. So what's the case? The case is where the cayenne is bringing the he's bringing the carbonim but he has in mind that he's not bringing he has a mind that he's bringing alim. What does that mean? So the schlumims were kasim hence they're known as the keres the was made up of 10 animals included in the 10 animals with two aen now a keves and an isle are both they're from the same species the difference is age so the keves is younger and the isle is older here's the point the cen was bringing the schlamin and he had a mind that he was bringing the now if really what happened here was simply so why this fancy language just tell me what the always tells me when it wants to tell me related to and that is you brought the so the ter is because the price is just explaining why the would have made a mistake the reason he made a mistake was is because he got confused between the and the let's be honest the same exact animal off by a few months maybe. So as a result, you can see why this mistake would have happened. The bottom line is it's so the way you would expect as relates to the so told him I disagree with you. You know what I hold is for emphasis. I hope is that not only is it gonna be but it's even going to be now this is already the third it sounds like as it relates to the whole starting was of the opinion that is regular then we saw it over in the introduction to today's who hold that that's brought is going to be pos that seems to be the other extreme. He says stating that as we're about to see now that respectively had a little bit of a discussion in terms of what meant and they both agree on one thing. Rav is not saying what it sounds like he's saying. Rav is not saying that is must be Rav is talking about a a very unique case of right the language is even a little bit of a giveaway as we address but he's talking about a unique case and it's only then that it's as we'll see the is what is that case the first it's when that and it's it's talking about where this was the he thought that they were again easy to confuse the however he had in mind to bring the so this is a little bit of an so in his mind he's bringing which is an he decides that he wants to bring the and as a result he hasn't mind to bring guess what it turned out that it was really the so it was really the so what he ended up doing was he brought the schlam the problem is really it was because in his mind he thought he was bringing so how do you look at this right on the one hand it's because he's bringing in his mind But at the end of the day, he got it right because it was uh that he ended up bringing says it's that said and the reason is because at the end of the day he brought aim continued and said what would be if this thought that he was bringing aim And he had a mind. So he thought it was an a so he thought he's bringing the carbon and he had a mind not he had a mind and that means he had a mind to bring it as an and then it was a that really it wasn't an rather what was it? It was aim in that case where this person ended up bringing the is not gonna be and the reason is because this person was of the carpet and even though he did it doesn't matter and it's for that reason is it's going to be so what's this other case this other case is where the ken thinks that he's bringing the has in mind the shame And it turns out that he was really bringing the so this person brought the but it's not your classic. The reason it's not your classic is because it happened the t cuz he thought that he was actually doing the because he thought he was bringing turns out it was a that if somebody brings a even it wouldn't be okay. Now it goes without saying that would hold that in the event that he brought a and it wasn't it was done that for sure it wouldn't be saying that even when the happened it's still going to be considered and it's going to be so let's meditate on what said because it's not the easiest memor of says again what exactly is saying and It's going to be it sounds like rabbis of the opinion that is better than in the best case scenario usually it's in this case it's going to be it's going to be is coming to address that says absolutely no way that's not going to be in fact the only time said is when the person although he had a but really it ended up being what is that even mean? Oh, very simple. He was bringing he thought he was bringing anah had in mind to bring the but being that really he was bringing comes out he brought so there's no that case it's going to be okay but to the extent that about it's not going to be okay and was even if the what does that mean where in his mind he thought he was doing it because he was bringing a he thought he was bringing and had a mind he brought In his mind, he was bringing in that's not considered. But again, that's positive. If it's a regular even if it's a disgrace, it would be like he says I disagree with that. He taken a little bit too far. I agree with you that Ra never said when he said he's talking about where it was in your classic. However, you're telling me that an Akira is considered an Akira and to the extent that in the Can's mind he thought he was bringing in if it was that it was it would be I disagree with that says in that case it wouldn't be the only time it's if it's but if it's not considered so again is does invas agree with you never said is going to be where he's arguing with him is that according to even if the was considered an Rabbi says I think that's already pushing it a little bit so really what emerges is as much as this case is a little bit confusing right it's tucked away in one of the sachin But what emerges is is a very general and that is to the extent that a has a bad we'll see in a minute to even to piggle but for now let's focus on what we have in front of us. If a but it was it wasn't amaz like this classic example where the is bringing he thinks he's bringing and he has a mind now he brought but let's be honest he never had a mind to be any he never had a mind to do the wrong thing he wants to do the right thing he thought he was bringing anah and if he was bringing anah it was lashma Oh, it turns out he was bringing but what we have in in front of us, what we have of is that he actually brought aim albeit. According to that would be a and according to it would not be considered a in the vernacular of the holds and holds my have the gear but seems to have the gear. So we go on my that I myself asked on my own. So himself freaked. He said from a Mishna, this is a classic Mishna in ironically the Mishna is actually in it's in but it's something that comes up a lot in certainly in the related red bites of the if they had they're considered a mazik if however it was done then they're going to be so the Mishna says that is if they do as a maz where does this come up in the right is your classic example of but the bottom line is in the event that they had to be show you they're going to be stating that we learned at a price that it doesn't matter if the had or if they had in either case the pickles meaning with between and thus is only with regards to whether or Not but in terms of whether or not in the pigle it doesn't matter if the was it doesn't matter if the so what part of this do we need pretty obvious we need the part so it's in this that if a would have it would be av what's the case is it talking about where the he was bringing a carbon and he had now what does it Schlam pickle your classic pickle is what he had in mind to eat the bus. So let's say now this man of a is this man of aim it's column is two days and a night. So if the case is talking about where he knew he was bringing a carbon and he had a mind and that's the example of where the regular the case must be talking about it's talking about where this thought he was bringing and he had a meaning he thought he was bringing a carbon whose man is to eat for two days and a night and As a result, in his mind, he was thinking, "Oh, I'm going to eat this buser for two days and a night." Well, it turned out he was bringing a katas. And because it turned out that he was bringing a katas, so it emerges that really he had a machev piggle. But this mak's piggle was an akira, right? Because in his mind, he's not doing anything wrong. He thinks he's bringing a having a mind to eat the B within this man that you're allowed to eat the Oh, it turns out it's from that Mishna regarding specifically even but at the same time that you see in a consider which is the right it's a rabbi himself asked the cash on himself. He said who was the rabbi he came to the defense of his he told him he says I don't think you have to be from it's okay we can make this work and told him I could tell you that maybe the case of is talking about where he knew it was and he had now if he knew it was a and he had soar right then he's a regular told him Maybe the case is talking about where he was an im. What does it mean? He was an immut where he thought that it's okay to have a mash bagel. Now I'm not exactly sure what training this cen had to become a cayenne, but you would think this is like the first thing they teach you. But the bottom line is he's somehow he thinks that is an okay thing. The bottom line is the was done. It wasn't done. And being that was done. So it's for that reason the pickles. So what's terias is right talking to it could be but over here it's not an it's now if it's doesn't that mean he's amazing no it's talking about was so this because we know that is always a whether or not it's considered a whether it's considered amazing clearly is of the opinion in this that an is a gig stating that it's not an because being that he had in So since not is that must be talking about what the mission is about says one more on this what's this is actually going to take us down memory lane as a matter of fact it's going to bring us back to said that any not just that it's so The opening line of is very similar to the opening line of stating that the first deals with not that way. heals every explained. He said are not like because let's say the where the is bringing and he has a mind when you look at it you see it's a and you see it's not the is talking about in the event that brings a right that doesn't have any oil in it and he has a that is not a problematic because you see it's not a You see it's when it comes to the reason there is because there you don't have any reason is because let's say somebody brings and he it's for that reason holds that when it comes to is going to be said I want to understand this a little bit better. When said that is he talking about where he did is that the case he and he has a mind of said I find that hard to believe in even though to explain his position I still find it hard to believe and the reason is even if it's He blatantly in a premeditated way went and was status of this car. There's no that's going to counter that must be the case. The case is probably talking about where he was a where it was. So he's bringing a and he had the case however where he thought he was bringing aas and in his mind he was doing it the right way. there as far to say that being that it was only and it's going to be okay. But if that's the case, it's over here in the case of the is not a problem but everywhere else would narrowly is going to be considered and if that's the case said rabbit this is a big cash on you you old I think I have a in the beginning of the you know why because said his grace that it's must be talking about where it was because if it's I don't think that's but if it's so why we even having this conversation oh must be that it's not going to be that way but again came to the defense of his only the case is talking about where was and Even Shim holds that because it was what was your how could be a to counteract. So told you forgot the beginning of the said by the way if the gears in our sug is right we were going with the gear raba not with the gear ra but either way said that this is really really based on the that featured very prominently on of and that is there is a called and basically what this states is that to the extent that you have a that's where it's nicker that the is just a silly then the is like that is the of is talking about where the was done because if it was done And as a result, you have no kasha from here. The bottom line is we're concluding now the of the specifically the latter part of the which dealt with the components which we saw really is a very important subya within the general of so when you think of inchim you think of obviously the first and the first several of these different sug is tucked away in different places. There's a lot of this is a very important one right here some very ideas related to specifically this either way without further ado moving along a classic So exactly what this means we'll see in the but just the so we know every single day in the md there were that were brought and in addition to that on special days like shabas there were muffen that were brought we've spoken at length in the past that the lundus of the carbon musf was it was no on the carbon so The tid was brought every day and some days in addition to the tid there was a it was like an add-on to the carbon tit the mccartis is a rashian again I am related raites but the musin are somewhat musher to each other because the is the and the musf is really that to the now the itself was brought there was the sh and there was The shabby. So the mission over here the is discussing the relationship between one and the other thet and the musf. And also by the way the musf was made up of a cocktail of animals. So what about one component of the with another component of the Mishna says here's the rule nothing wasn't brought no worries you can still bring you could have thought it's like a set either you bring both or you bring nothing that's not the case when is the That's true. If they were in when they didn't bring the you know they were amazed they didn't bring the because of some blatant then you lose your to be able to bring the moving along the is also something that was brought in the morning and was brought in the evening. So what would be if the terist wasn't brought by you could bring instead of in the event that the terus wasn't brought in the morning then when it comes you don't bring only part of it but you bring the entire thing now the next word in the is which seems to hook this part of the mishna with the previous part of the mishna right the shin is like above is but we'll see in the garam it's really in tomorrow's daf that this is a mime there's a big over here so really the Mishna is pivoting now and it's going to discuss something else and that is there's an idea that before one of the mik we used you had to be the English word for is to inaugurate so there's an inauguration and then it becomes live so the mikdash required they required some inauguration and the Mishna is telling us now how these different ka were inaugurated so So the mission says only that was the small that's the one that's mentioned in the end of not the one that's mentioned in that's the one that was primarily used for the and the way they were that was with the that's the grace of with the that's the one that was in the that was so the only way to be the was with the and the only way to was with the way to be with and the way was using and it had to be lit again this will be primarily the topic of tomorrow stuff stating that and the raid we're going to touch on this a little bit the following question that doesn't have enough animals to bring the and the which comes first. So the we know was two was made up of different animals but it included as well. So the question is what would be if you don't have enough for the and the which comes first. So theor says really asked this question right what exactly did it mean? did he mean it's today and today you have to bring the you have to bring the right so it's shabas it's if it's a day that involves your like every day does and it also involves the if that's what's going on here says the toi what's the mean of course you're going to bring the before you're going to bring the and the reason is the because the is and it's as opposed to the musf is only makud So the thammed was brought every single day which means that it's going to be more tad than any other carbon pretty much that it's going to go headto-head against. Right? The musf wasn't brought every day. The musf was brought once a week plus on. So for sure the carbon is more than the carbonf. Additionally, the tid this is a little bit tricky on shabas also has a special kadusha and the reason is because the gets additional kadusha when it's brought on it's a shabas when it's on it's so themed on a day that you're bringing the musf is because the tid is always it's also because if you're bringing a musf by definition this is a holy day and if that's the case it has an extra kadusha. is mishesh because it's being brought on that holy day but it's not and if that's the case the ish the musf is only mishesh mak is going to beat out mudes every day of the week pun intended right so that's how it's going to play itself out now truth is for brevity the gar could have just said that the reason the comes before the mus is because the is and the mus is not tad the fact that it's makudes is really neither here nor there Because the musf is also makesh. The is just about burning. You're going to tell me this is makesh. So I want you to know this is also makesh. And by the way you can hear that the mus is maybe more makish than the because the musf is being brought because of the yakadesh. The tid is brought every day. It's a madesh that makes the more kadesh. Right. Teres is as opposed to the mus is only as a result for sure the is going to come first. And by the way, just to state the obvious, just because something is more that means it comes first. Of course, everybody knows this is so again it can't be the question that he asked and it's today because this is a classic right it has to be the case must have been where the Shil is today it's let's say Shabas and on Shabas We have to bring the carb. They brought the tomt already. Now it's time to bring the mus. But if I'm going to use the right now for the mus tomorrow, Sunday morning, I'm not going to have the I need in order to bring the carbon to and this was the shil says the maybe the ask and what was the sh was to does the come first. So therefore, I'm going to punt until tomorrow because tomorrow's has a over based on or maybe no the is because the is on and tomorrow Sunday so tomorrow's doesn't have that same level of either way says this was told I have arrived from our mission because the mission said what was the case is the case to is the case talking about where the person has all the animals that he needs right in our Mishna when we talk about vice versa it's talking about where there's uh enough and enough animals to go around what's the shil then what's the Mishna and the discussion over here is which comes first and when the Mishna says It means the order. It means the order. But the says that's not true. If that is what the Mishna is talking about, that's an incorrect statement. And again, this is 101. How do you know that there was no carbon that was be brought in the morning before the is always the first animal right sometimes says Ella and sometimes says it's the last that the case of the Mishna is talking about case it's talking about you don't have enough animals to go around right that must be what the Mishna is saying and what does the Mishna say to me the Now let's take this in if it's talking about today's and why is that it should be the should come before the because the ish as opposed to the which is only which means the is where the mus is not and right should come first it has to be talking about at the cases the where the had enough for either the mafen or the but it's today's versus tomorrow's thus it's not a what is it it's where one is more and the other one is more as a result what does the say so you see you can do whatever you Either way is the in a case where it's a sh of today's versus tomorrow's today's which one is going to have a says the case is talking about where you have animals to be able to bring the or the musf And essentially what the Mishna is saying is that one is not of the other and the other is not of the one the case is probably talking about where I could bring today's Muslim for tomorrow's and if is you could do whatever you want but told I disagree maybe the is talking about where you have all the animals that you need and when we say we're talking about the order right that's what's going on we're talking about the s that the It doesn't matter. What was the isn't there? Nothing's allowed to come before the the answer is that that is true. But at the same time that's only that's only that's not and being that that's not. So it's for that reason it could be the Mishna says that in other words the Mishna is not talking about where you're short on animals. You really have all the animals that you need. It's a question of and the saying is not what's the big on this. What happened to the grace of the answer is that's and we know you should always bring the first but the is talking and the says you want to know either way where are we back to wanted to know what would be if it's shabas oh by the way it could be just picking shabas it's shabas right now they brought the carbon and now it's the shila bring in the mus and the question is if we bring the musf we're not going to be able to bring the tomorrow that's the question over here so the shila is what has kadima do we bring today's musf or do we instead wait and bring tomorrow's each one has a mile the bringing today's mus is because the carbon mus is more than the carbon there's a mile bringing the carbon tot because it's hence the question is what has an adifos do we go baser or what's more kadesh or do we go bust or what's more now the truth is before we go v this shah that is asking is really shah a gur's shil which features very prominently in but it comes up elsewhere as well and that is we know we know essentially the sh over here is that I have on the one hand I have on the other hand and the question is right. So really if you're going to learn this properly you have to make a beline to that. Sounds very much like that is really what's question is. Today's musf is tomorrow's is each one usually has a mudish usually comes first usually comes first where one is the other one is that's the famous of the in different places and it sounds like that was question that he asked they're right here either way I'll bring you there that there always had to be six, six sheep that had beaker done in the lishkatam. So the lkam was one of the chambers in the base of mikdash and that's where they used to keep the right that giveaway was called the liskas. So the tom used to be kept. What were the tom used for? For the carbon and for the musafen as well, right were a very important commodity in the bd and there was a special in fact for these. What does it mean that they had to be because that the carbon required? We're going to see in a minute. The learns are from a that it required four days of inspection to make sure that there was no m inside the carbon. So essentially said they at all times in there had to be at least six you had to have six of these. So you had to have a reserve of six. Now what's the reason for this? So that if you have shabas which is followed or preceded by two days of rash. So it's Thursday Friday shabas or it's shab Sunday Monday you have a three-day yontiff. you'll have enough to be able to bring the twoim on each one of these days. So in the event it's going to be shabas and now you can't do gash you can't do business. So you have to make sure you have a supply it was true in the mdish as well. So it's for that reason for a shabas and a two-day you're going to have to make sure that you can have six thought. By the way it's kishmak because today inflar it's something called a three-day yontiff. Right? It's coming up this year. There's an idea of a of a three-day and the only way you could have a three-day is Shabasan. But the bottom line is because of the three-day, it's for that reason you had to make sure that I have a little bit of a problem with this six that's going to get you through a three-day. Is it talking about where the khanim really have all theim and all the musen they have a ton of animals they have whatever they need and then we're telling you that you have to make sure you have six right it doesn't make any sense to vavas if they have I don't know if you do the math it's over 20 animals you're going to need over this three day with all the musafen and everything so what do you mean you have to have six you're telling me you have what you need this is pretty obvious is talking about the last slate now we'll see in a minute why it's not so obvious but at first glance what seems obvious This is talking about where you don't have what you need and you better make sure that at a bare minimum you're going to have six. Well, if that's the case, you know what you see from here? You see from here that if you don't have all the animals you need, what's the bare minimum amount of animals you need to get you to the six. Now, what's the having six? Because you're going to bring the What about the musafen? Oh, it sounds like the tid is going to come before the mi. The tid should come before the mus. Oh, it must be because the is over the mus. But isn't the musesh? Oh, it must be. And this is question. Now you're going to say one second. One second. One second. We're talking about on all of these days just like the musen are kadesh theim are also kadesh. So this is the case that was that the would come first, right? Because the t on all three of these days is going to be mish and the musf is going to be only makesh. So of course the is going to come first. This is not a it's not ashma right was talking about today's versus tomorrow's where the m is not and the is but in on these three days it's posit you're going to use all six of these animals for the because on all three of these days the tid is going to be makish as opposed to the mus is only going to be makudes. So Rashi Bab's question Rashi the way he explains it is it's talking about where it was shabas or well let's just keep it simple it was shabas rash or rash shabas is more than rash so if that's the case once they bring the shabas morning that's easy you'd have bring the because the on shabas is as opposed to the mus on shabas is only but when it comes time now to bring the musf now this mim's Because do I bring the musf now in chabas or do I wait instead bring the t tomorrow? Now you're going to tell me the mus is kesh and the tomorrow is yeah but the mus the tomorrow is not as the today and the reason is because shabas is more even the way it is as opposed to it's only right this is not etc etc but here's the bottom line that The musf on shabas day one is moreish than the on day two. And if it sounds like we're not paying attention to the mus we're saying just have the six animals for the three what emerges that is from I know it from the from the explains and if that's the case says the says I'll tell you the it's talking about where there were enough animals to go around it's not the over is not talking about that if you're running low on animals, make sure you have six to bring the the six and don't worry about the because it could be the of would come before the of Okay. So, what is this? It's something else. What we're saying is that when it comes to this three-day, you better make sure that you have six that had already four days prior to going to the right of how do you know that when it comes to the carbon, you have to do four days. It says this regarding the carbon. And it says in par by the carbon that was born right they had to do four days of beaker. We know that just like they required beaker four days over here would require four days of beaker. So was talking about where you have enough animals to go around. But all the was saying was is that make sure you're going to have six animals that had beaker only the bag that holds the dim beaker by the carbon. It's only true by the it's not true by the m and as a result six and not more than six not six animals for the six because if you had six animals bringing them for the it could be the would be that was question it just means six animals and that's only true for six not true for the because the brought with the didn't have this of why not because learn from that it says by the from the for the you have a lim for the you don't have a lim for the mus that's why it's only going to be the it's not going to be neglash he said if that's what's going on over here that you're saying that just make sure for the three that in reserves you're going to have six that are going to be well you should need seven should have to have one for the morning for the morning of Tuesday. Once again, this three-day yontiff wasashash, I'm sorry, shabas and then right. So, shabas Sunday, Monday, Tuesday morning, you're going to have to go ahead and bring a carbon totally you have to prepare before your to make sure that you have that carbon good to go because what mat shabas you're going to start scrambling the stores are closed when you're finding a a sheep that had be already dollar. By the way, we'll see in a minute there were Moist that used to know that in the B mikdash you needed be. So they would already prepare the animals, right? But again, the pizza shops are open, nothing else, right? So where you going? There's nowhere to go ahead and buy a Kevin. So what exactly are you going to end up with? So if this is addressing the three, make sure you can have animals that had be well you should eat seven, not six. But say according to you, you should eat eight. also right for a three-day was the last carbon that was brought. So what about that says come on that's not aasha we mean after you already address make sure you have another six okay that's not a kasha we deflected that very easily but the bottom line is don't you need one for the next morning says you have to say it's t is saying something else we thought that what the t meant to say was is that ink when there was a three-day they had to make sure they had six the truth is when there was a three-day they had to make sure they had Because if you didn't make sure you had seven, you're going to be scrambling the next morning and you're going to have yourself a big problem. So you actually had to make sure you had seven in that situation. We're saying something else. We're saying not on a three-day when falls out Sunday, Monday. We're talking about always. There always had to be six time in the always needed. You know why? Because you have to have reserves. Why? It makes a lot of sense. You don't want to be down to your last because what happens if something happens to your so you have to have reserves. It makes perfect sense right there. You have to have backup. There has to be some sort of reservoir of how many that's this. Now why did we think that it was the day? Um because that's what it said. There's no three. THEY ALWAYS EAT SEVEN, NOT SIX, SEVEN. It means there's there can never be less than six, right? There's always of things. So the shabas was a it was just it was a good way of remembering six. Rashi says why do you need this sim? Because maybe you're going to think it's five. Maybe you're going to think it's seven. Kazal worked with Siman Ky. So Kazal are telling you, you know, you're going to come to a share and you're going to hear that the RV said that you have to have six and you're going to come over, you're going to say, I can't remember if was it five, was it four, it was 11, it was seven, it was nine, it was 14. You're going to get confused. So the the gave a good way to remember. Oh, three. It's six. And you know it's six, right? Because it's only the needs it. It's three times two. Easy back envelope arithmetic. And like this, you're going to remember what your number is. But the bottom line is is the of two days is not for the three day. For the three day, you really need seven. This is a beer minimum. You always have to have three. The bottom line is that is I'll even prove to you right. Sometimes we say things like this when it's a little bit sometimes it's actually very this one's right. If you look carefully at the funny word, it should say the ter is you always have to have it. This is not only for that. What then does mean right? This is a what does have to do with? It means it means enough that would be okay for three days. It would be okay for a shabas and two days. But the bottom line is has nothing to do with preparing for two days. Then you would actually need a seven. There's a special this something that you always need. The bottom line is really left unresolved which is by the way the way the Gar leaves the question of right. This is an existential question that comes up and seems to always end up in the category of either way. Exhale. And just to speak out two light kachumahas the first is over the years we've mentioned many times that there's a pelarashi it's in the conversation of the most difficult rashi of all time that pelic not that we rank these things. So the Gmor there is discussing the and at the very very end of the Gmorra says that the number is the 13 of the 13 is the 24 but says you would have thought are included in the says it's talking about a carbon and he was bringing a carbon and he had in mind that he's bringing a carbon is that this carbon is And you have to go ahead and you have to bring another card. So the great you want to know what it means to be it means to really everyone asks this that this rashi is can't say this rashy with a straight face. How could piggle is not piggle? It's a what's bothering that was the word again to answer this but something that we never spoke out on this topic but jumps off today's that I saw Ranchburg and other Mim on the side of Babakaf and speak out is that as much as this rash at first glance seems to be a but at the same time I think we know where got his from the had a discussion and was of the opinion said I ask the cash on my own from the it says and if they did they're going to be but if they did they're going to be stating that we learned in that even where the is not as butle the piggle's going to be said what's the case let's read the lion of the is the case where he knew he was bringing but he had a mind to Well, if he knows it's not a he's amazed and it was that was the rabbi is being oft And how is the of it's talking about in his where he's bringing now that's not but what's it means he's bringing a that has a den to eat for a day and a night and he has a mind to treat it like it's a where he's going to eat it for two days and a Right? Meaning it's not that he's having in mind. I'm bringing aas and I'm having a mind. I'm bringing I'm bringing and I'm having a mind that I'm going to treat it with the instead of having a mind that I'm going to eat which is the way you're supposed to eat a he has in mind which is the way that you're supposed to go ahead and eat. That's what it means. BUT WHAT'S THE BOTTOM line said when they were being that talks ABOUT what's the case where it was no it means is not that he had what it means that he's going to treat the as if it's a rashi over here is just quoting it's what rash means he's quoting What does it mean? Mafagle, you have to start explaining to your eighth graders what exactly means. You do, by the way. And by the way, if the eighth grader learns he's good enough, he's going to go to yeshiva and 10 years later and he's going to think pigma. You can't blame him cuz he learned rash. But the bottom line is that oh it means what is the case of the this is the hardest rash in the world to understand right theness of of this rash is a very very sh right the of the Yeshua is he says I don't know what was bothering rashy I can't for the life of mine understand the regular traditional of exactly how this works. But the bottom line is that it's Rashi was just quoting he was quoting the over here that also explained piggle as and it doesn't mean where I'm bringing I'm thinking I'm bringing it means I'm going to treat the with the why would Rashi here have chosen to quote the it's because the is discussing the same exact that Rash is discussing That's just a kage. But the bottom line is it's discussing the case of bottom line is this is just a verbatim quote from today's when you're not learning you can't appreciate this. But today was the day to speak this out. And the MS is the Ranchburg is the to this very very that's the first the second is the very end of the Mishna that we learned. So the Mishna pivoted the Mishna began etc etc and then the Mishna said which involves which is the beginning of tomorrow's the how the had to be the mdash. In other words, you couldn't just go ahead and start using the mdash. It required a right and then there's some process that required the ka to go through before the ka were able to be used. And the Mishna goes and delineates how exactly they were each one of the mikdash. Truth is this is very much the topic of tomorrow's d but we're preempting a little bit of a this bridges today's daf and tomorrow's daf. You know over the years we mentioned many times that Pesak Frank in his wrote a chuva related to the kalisher movement in the 19th century about bringing a carbon and his aim that he brought to the tish was this right here says I don't understand how in the world it's going to be possible to bring a carbon pes because in order to bring a carbon pes you going have to have a misbeh which had to be paid for by the so basically you're suggesting that we're going to have it's going to be impossible to have and it's for that reason Frank said that it's going going to be impossible to go ahead and bring the carbon pes really the background to this is that even knew that it was only the carbon pes you he were able to bring but bring the carbon pes right because everything had issues but the garb he thought you could bring but that you can't bring only the carbon pes because you have to first be is something that has to be done and as a result he held the whole movement was was dead on arrival again this is the we spoke spoken about several times over the years. Not for now. But I just want to mention one and that is that the inal discusses and the says and that is you would have thought for sure counts as an so we know in fact the say there's four that if would do them he'd What are they? And the Gmorra goes through every other in the world and tries to figure out why would do them. He wouldn't be. And then the Gar comes to and the says it's not even an because it's not an it's that would do he wouldn't be. Now the truth is where he means that is allowed to go ahead and do or it means if he did it he won't be like the says holds he's allowed to do the says you're not tell you're taking way too much out of this all the said was in response to why doing but to go and to say that is this has on it something we spoke about in the past if you take a look on the side of the says to him it's a how could it be that the says but that there's no when it comes to the this cash is the most obvious cash in the world, right? Who's supposed to do the is the one that's supposed to be the I don't understand. How's it possible? How is it possible that the and that is even allowed to like there's no for to do it? Well, if that's the case, it's a it's a it's a mole. How could anyone hold that there's no at the very least it should even be but for sure for to be what happened to the parish of in a classic right in the beginning of parish he says says I would say that when the says You know what that was referring to? That was not a that every single time the was going to be lit that it would have to be lit by a that I think is talking about that's tucked away in a talks about how they were the different that the way the of the took place, it happened. It happened with this par of that's talking about the para of being that required. It's the afterwards. is talking about how they were and that was something that had to be done that I think that's the in the medish that everybody knows that Rashi quotes in the beginning of parishes says that why did right here in immediately following so the major says was very sad because the was because he wasn't involved in the not him told him you have nothing to worry about yours is going to be bigger than theirs you're going to The in this is he wasn't involved in the and tells him you're going to light the but it's a ple his issue was that he wasn't involved in the so you're giving him a you're telling that he's going to be the right very very says that what he was referring to was the nasan that was going to happen all you know but it's because ramban's bother with this obvious question it stares you in the face he as that he wasn't engaged engaged in the so what's the p over here that you're going to be the p was that you're going to have a that's going to have to BE DONE AND IT WON'T be able to be done because and if that's the case just like the could be done can also be done he told him you feel bad that you missed out on the I'm going to give you that only is allowed to be done that says it's that was the why because he missed that on the what was the you're going to be involved in the car really happened it's bizar But it's the that's what this was that's appeals that's I think you can say in something that if you think about is a little bit something we've heard a thousand times is asking a very and that is what is the conclusion of this parish in the beginning of right this was the famous hespar right we all know the How could the be made? It's being stated in real time right now. What's the mitzvah? I don't know. Sounds like a harin is going to have a den to always light the so's going to always have to light the so for the next 39 years in the midbar's going to be lighting in the stating that right this second you go ahead and you tell that what you tell that you should do it lights if the was to light them always then where's the because right now he did it. Okay. 39 years from now, we'll revisit this and we'll figure out was how could the be made right now. It must be it must be that really the was not that was always going to be the one that was going to light the but was that he was going to be he was the one that went and he lit the for the first time he was the Fore this has to be the answer to he said that even though that it's even but there was a that had to be And that was it was the it's this tucked away here in the at the very end I'd rather saw a nice there's a it's called incidentally if you're and who isn't and you're learning now it's to track down the but either way right here so the on thiser so these pieces from then he wrote a whole safer on the bottom every that I went through but either way so there's a little it's called and in the he comes out that the first time that the was liter that had to be done so he said that didn't of that first is that the gh because that is meaning in as much as but that's only after the first has to be done so it's the ter is the told this is going to be done and if it's going to be done this is going to be a but just because there's a doesn't mean that there has to be a what's the kim example But it's not right is always the example that has to be done but at the same time it's not necessarily declares this that the first by the first if you want to look this was together that it had a or wasn't but it required well number one does have to If it's an obviously he has to wear the big duna otherwise if it's not he wouldn't need the big maybe would be with because really the said that should be when he's what was the but for that the first is so maybe you would even say that I mean said it would be a very if that was the case but Nice in terms of understanding the lumbness of this. The bottom line is this is that there were two there was one of the and then there was the that initial the truth is this is really in I know but this is really in because really the whole end of the it talks about different that were done that seem to be part and parcel of the and this from a we're going to get to this where the that those that are being discussed, it's not but the gather of those are it's and that's the safe of this Mishna over here. Either way, we're going to stop