Menachos 73

Today's and we are at the beginning of the new per the seventh. So the topic of the seventh per is again that relate to all different types of so the in the sixth per had digressed and spoken a lot about the we return now more generally to discuss the following are a list of that have a mitzvah And another mitzvah that whatever's left over from the after the was done should be eaten says the five make up the five types of is the six that's the brought as part the carbon. So there was certain aas where one brought an which meant the type of carbon he brought depended on his tax bracket. It depended on what he was able to afford. If he can afford to bring an ordinary katas he brought a katas. If he couldn't afford to make a he brought two birds or if he couldn't even afford that he was what referred to as he brought a that's known as the finally that's used to says it's not true that every sing and that the was eaten by but rather says that was only true if The person bringing the was either a ley or is what if he was a then the was different then he would bring the the would do the would go on the he'd be m like you're always m the says would also go on the but the was that there was and thus the although it was going completely on the misb was really made up of two parts it The background to which is really going to be more the topic of tomorrow's is the says in theor says that the was like a it had to be completely consumed they thou shalt not eat from it. It was off limits. You weren't allowed to eat from the of a kite. Now pa that is referring to the of a kite. If a was a whereas a you have the then you have the was eaten by the like the says when it comes to the of say stating that said that this is true for the of as well it's not only true for the of a it's also true for the stating that there's a difference between the of a and of there was no even the entire thing was put on the of the had thus there were but at the same time the and the albeit separately were put on the miz regardless the Mishna said the basic that we're all familiar with and that is that most the Mishna gave us a whole list we'll see more about the list in the garra but the gave a list of where the is nickmos the sh of the kayan and the shior were eaten by the kayan. It's just important to speak out right at the beginning of the suga and that is that the shor was like the entire which was kadosh. So we know that there were different classes of kadusha as it relates to carbonas this kachadasha and then this kachum even within the world of kachum there's different levels you're introduced to that in the very first mish kach the already talks about different levels and different madreas within the kadusha of a ma was of the highest kadusha it was like an it was like a kas it was like an it was and because it was kadash it was only and only. So whereas a schlman for example some of it was eaten by kahhanim some of it was eaten by the bum and it doesn't matter if the bum was a lady he was entitled to eat some of his carbon that he brought but kachi kadash was never by the bum because it was too kadesh thus it had to be eaten by the kadoshim the kad and only the kadesh were allowed to eat a is the terror says it many times as a result the was only eaten by the says is because only the is from the and only are from regardless have a list of that are there's a wherever you have this list this cast that was mentioned in our Mishna when you count it up you should know it's 10 now you can do the math and you can figure out it's 10 because the list really wouldn't be 10. The list would be 11 because our Mishna mentioned five types of now and are the two types of is when the wasul it was mixed together with the oil. is when it was only it was only smeared with oil. Thus there's two types of you can bring the in the form you can bring it in the form says says that if you want you can bring it and the mafan is made up of 10 breads said if you want five of them to be five of them to be then that's also going to be good meaning according to there's six types of it would be and then a sixth one would be so papa said that the right reading of the mission is 10 not 11. This is another papa prefaced it by saying it's not. So we have already a little bit of a where else did we have this? So he had it two other times already. Very good. We had the over there was discussing that she said there's some that have no is the following that need and gave this list made the same comment. It's 10 that list. It's not 11. Then we had it again in the was talking about the that has and the said no. And again the gave this list regardless. This is already the third Mishna that we had this list. It's 10. It's not 11. the lake corruption. So the mission again said so we said it's very posit that it was eaten by the kayan because can't eat it. The question however is how do you know it was even eaten by the kayan. And the truth is if you go through the par of all the different that are mentioned in the it doesn't always say that after you do the kim you should take the shim and give it over to the kayana. So we're going to have now a whole um and a half of Gmorra where the garra is going to find us sources at the end of the day we're going to have two but sources how it is we know that this list 10 or 11 have the whatever was left after was eaten by the ones that it says in the are supposed to be eaten by the season and the ones that are say that's a par. It's a very general sounds like we're talking about now that's skipping to so the says so sounds like we're talking about all types of and what does the say what's this that whatever is left over meaning after the says says the gammor I don't understand the question there are some where it says am I supposed to eat the so that's easy but even the lake even though there are where it doesn't say mafurish in the that was by the but once you have this general in the beginning of parish through testing matter through test where it says and then so I know already that every single says like this I know a bought from that's for sure included in so that the eat so I know all of should be eaten by says the question is what about that was and there were two that were siren the which was the topic of the last two weeks of and the which was also why was the bos she acted like a and therefore is going to be so the garra says is to think that maybe only that's included in terrorism but maybe that's what's so you could say because we know that has to be has to be and now even though you could eat your ch has in it but at the same time It was deemed by as not being a it was considered to be so it's a so maybe where it's where it's a maybe not. So the Gmorra is saying that maybe the two not included in this. So how do you know those are also included and the Mishna mentioned them? the mention and it's two of the list of 10 in our so it makes sense because being that those two even though they're avoid those that the should be eaten by the but the says I hear but if that's true it's only going to be a terror according to the meaning according to the rabbon that hold it every time by so I hear what you're saying that even the two and being that they had it makes sense that the should be eaten by the what about a coin who said in our that had but wasn't eaten that's the of That's in the safe of our according to it's not true that every time this necessarily eaten by the if that's the case what's the one word how do you know every single even the have you can't tell me it's included in the because maybe the hish is only referring to and don't tell me because this then by definition it automatically means that holds there's a that has that wasn't of so again how do you know the two have that from the following and this too is a par but this is not perv This is the over there says so is any that's either has she in it or it's dry meaning it doesn't have she in it should be given to the given to the meaning that the should be given over to the camp says more like I don't need this to tell me that a that's made from and should be given to because I know that from already told me that right we know already every single that's from has we're trying to figure out how do you know the says I have a you should give to the I don't need that to tell me that's so So instead, let's use it for a that I can't learn out from the hish. That's a that's what's an example of a that's and it's that's the also says that a should be given over to the again I don't need a that's because I know that from the from I don't need for that instead give it and you apply it to a that was that was what's a that was that That's the again there were two that were but they were fundamentally different. One was the other one was the had the like says throughout did not have any she have a referring to the that's referring to the that's could you use Apostle to teach me this the also had a den that the should be given over to I needed for the following tomorrow's going to bring a very straightforward a very posit but also very long winded bry the how do you know that that I was sitting down at the end of the day and they're divvying up the matnus kahuna all the kim so there was a lot of kub that was brought on any given day in the bas mikdash And a lot of the had a that was so was able to eat a little bit of the a little bit of the a little bit of the a little bit of the there's a lot going on. And the would sit down every member of the particular mish there was a whole of exactly how it was done. But if you're a kayen and you're serving in the B mikdash on any given day you're entitled now to get your matuna. So the sitting down and they're starting to divide up the matuna. So they divide up the minis, they divide up the carbonas, and one kind says, "You know something, I'm not in the mood. I'm on a low carb diet. I don't want a I'll tell you what, I'll make a deal. I'll give you my you give me a little bit more flesh. I want some of that lamb. That's what I want instead. So is that okay? It's a price not to say, I don't want the instead you take my and I'll take yours." It's not something you're allowed to do. Is it's a bazillion. So even though one is obviously more as far as the pay grade goes, but at the same time it's it's a disrespectful thing to the you're not supposed to do that. How do you know that? It's learned out from a says I'm reading the whole and then the P continues and says so mentioned or many of So you have which was made up of it's supposed to go over to the and then the says now we're talking about and we learn from the words that every single has to end up with meaning it's coming to exclude says I don't want and instead I'll take more of the that's something he's not allowed to do continues the maybe you only can't split or not the meaning maybe a person can't say I don't want the instead give me the why because there's no relationship between the and the but maybe you're lap for because you see that there's connection between the and the where do you see that in the carbonate if somebody can't afford to bring the he brings the so once you see it's anyways you find this relationship between the and the swapped it the says if you can't afford the bring the so maybe I can also swap it I could also say you know I don't want the instead give me life again it says you have to see the inside to fully appreciate this but the says and from we learn that every single has to participate in the but the says it by so many it says it by the by the by the each and is referring back to each one of the that are mentioned in these so we learn from each another from the basic concept of a has to be you can't swap a for the fact that the terrorist said it's we learned you can't even swap a for the price continues. Okay. I would think you can't swap a not for a not for an maybe you could swap for a because at the end of the day they're both bloods that one of them is it says it a third time. And even though the third time that the mentions it is also by it's by that it says and every has to participate in. And now we're learning of says because I know it already wasn't but had the not continued I would still think okay so you can't swap a fore you can't swap a for you can't even swap an for but maybe even though they're both dam because the way that the was done was very different the carpet was It was done with a maybe one for another maybe that is okay. I can't even swap one for another maybe that's two different types of because we're very different but maybe I can swap my for my a fifth time says I would think maybe this is only true for the Torah says it in the parish of and even though we said it relates to as But maybe only are always there's only two types of they're both and maybe also it only relates to the that are the what's the fourth one also however maybe is okay it says in the very next the very next in front of the Torah talks about we learn from there from of the okay so we this we'll get back in a minute to the to the punchline but just to conclude the and the of this so the P saidar ish and the word is we learned that every ish every adult once you have you automatically are you're entitled to which is by the way because wasn't able to do the so if you couldn't do the maybe you shouldn't participate in the either however cannot be because whereas a is included in ish as long as he's bar mitzvah doesn't matter if The is excluded from the word is either way. What's the we said that is the that abundant namely even though they're not included in the of but from that we learn teaches me the teaches me that teaches me that the I have a whole long-winded bryer that used the words to teach me six the swapping that if I say I'll give you my for your or my for your etc etc etc you can't do it from the words that every single member of the has to have You can't trade it out. So how could I use one to teach me two things and if gives the very the was from the word it could have said what's the every single member of the mishar has to end up with meaning you can't trade it that's the but the is coming to teach me the of that The word teaches me the affformentioned but the says there was another we had earlier but it was discussing the you can't bring says the 11th that the six types of the can be either the argued and the said what's the brought a few to the one of the was this P because the P talks about the M and then the P talks about the that's and the says just like the you can't bring one that's so too in the world of you can't bring that's going to be but again I have another usage for this how do I learn that from that bas said this is the you can't bring That's already a third thing I'm going to learn from there. How do you do that? Says yeah there's actually a third it says but the starts with so really there's three things going on here. It teaches me you can't have a maf that's the second mentioned in the in that teaches me that this is going to be true as it relates to the of trading out the and the teaches me that even the have the just one interesting thing that we're not going to talk about that we saw in this Bryce it's just worth mentioning. So the B has said that a cotton is not but muskuna it's mur however in gamar is that even though a kot wasn't a k was allowed to eat muskuna meaning if there was a k who's a you know one of the khan brought his son to work so they're sitting in the vto and there's a cotton there he's not in the matuna the kuna he's not he's not in the but if he wants to eat it you bring masuna home you're allowed to give it to your cotton to eat it asks the obvious question how's a cotton allowed to eat manusca is a mitzvah. A is not a baritzvah. So if you're going to give your koton to eat, aren't you being because of mitzvah is going to eat that of the he's going to be the mitzvah. But if a cotton's going to eat, he can't be the mitzvah. And it should not only be not okay for the he should be able to eat it either because if he eats it he's being about of course the terret is all the raid that we've spoken about between the of for example and of we spoke a lot about this income regardless. So we have the first how we know that all even the we learn it from a different and this is a parish par is the right that talk about and not inra it's not in it's tucked away it's inbar it's in and what's the connection actually is after challenged the so the reinforces and his family they're going to be the and then the talks about the gave so this is a parish it says you should give the and it's from this that we're going to learn this that every single even the was eaten by the how sob those words teach me the rabbis that the was considered and was given to why would you think not why would you think the should be different than any other part of a I'll tell you being that it says the says regarding so I would have thought only something that's related to the Oil never goes on the fire that even the oil goes to the can that's the line that we need teaches me every single even why would you think so I would have thought I would have thought the says in the context of thus maybe the only time the get to eat the is if the carbon from which the is now wanting to was brought. In fact, we learn from there. These two carbon have nothing to do with the was came to be. We know that the also didn't come even though it was in the context of but the purpose of the wasn't it was it was the that even the which even the is in that of the it's meant to be given to the this is the line we needed this is here you see clearly that all even that are not in the Even that can't be included in the he of even the maybe you can't be it doesn't matter even those that learned out from these words continues that also goes to the right so I would have thought maybe it's maybe even not let it no let it that even though ordinarily would not constitute would be would be very very for someone to eat an that was killed and the are different they're allowed to eat it what does that teach me the notary that I know the gets but the that's the is not that's teach that it's like the purpose again it's not the even though an usually is this one's different okay again when does bring an so there's two sets of carbonas that you have to be familiar with when you talk about the there's the brought when he completed his nazer he had to bring three carbonis it's for that reason that if a person would be zeras today he'd be a naz forever he'd be the equivalent of a nazsh he would never be able to cut his hair he'd be a naza forever the reason is why because in order to complete your nazirus and to go from being a nazer to not being a nazi he have to bring carbon he can't bring carbon so as a result there's no way for a person to go from being a nazer to not being a nazer anymore so the classic carbon nazer are always the kas and the that the nazer brought when he completed his but there was another set of carbon If a nazer became tame, so the tyra says he had to wait seven days. At the end of his seven days, he had to bring carbon and then he had to start counting all over again and then he completed his nazer. So there were the carbonos that a regular nuz brought. Then there were the carbanas that the nuz brought. The purpose of those carbonas argues the wasn't to be on the fact that he was a nuzer that became tummy which he wasn't supposed to do. The purpose of those is it's to allow him to start counting again so that now he can complete his the bottom line is the asham was the carbon said it was the nazer that brought the carbon the naz didn't bring the carbon asham it was the nazer it was in his cocktail of carbon that the asham was there so whenever you talk about the asham nazi you talk about the naz his carbon is that he should be able to be to count again. So you should be able to complete this is you would have thought that maybe it doesn't go to the kamasha that's the end of the teach me that if somebody steals from a and then the g dies and now the gazlin wants to be in the mid he has no one to give it back to the himself's not alive anymore he has no assuming he has no does it go to goes to the he always speak out says this is How do you know has no say? says in the Tyra what what does it mean that the why should it go to the oh must be he has no why does he have no brings this so doesn't bring very often brings this he says said that this is the guy says a different what does that teach belongs to the bottom line is why do we bring in this? We had two warm- winded bryes, but why do you bring the second one? Because there's one line tucked away in this that we need when the Torah says goes to the is coming to teach me not all I know all go to the it's coming to teach me even the that have nothing to do with that or namely the now those two and the says given to thus you found your source you have your even the given to so again we started off with the Mishna said and the Gar wanted to know what's the said like this whatever is even the ones that are not in the but I have the heckish I have a general give it all to that's mentioned in the argu that should only include the A the never says should be given to and shouldn't be included in the in the so how do I know so according to that every time you do the go to the khan so being that those two had so it makes sense it should be given to the khan but the refined the question it said the question then not every time this of the had so how do you know then that just because this should be again what's the we had two makaras either but and I have both over here I have the shall I take that's the and the says and even though the brought a whole longer from other that have learned that from this but the worked it At the end of the day, this is the first that's what said it's a different it's not it's not in fact it's it's tucked away. It's inbar. It's in the end of are included in the in the specifically the new topic said every time a guy brings a carbon even if he says it's an so every carbon that a guy brings is a carbon what's The significance it goes completely on the there's no mitzvah of when it comes to the of the his mind he thinks that if something is holy that it has to go completely the say that aid has this concept of taking his gashmas and making it right we have this idea of being in the in In a Yehudi world, it's it's it's a little bit of a rearer concept. And as a result, there's a concept of of giving up something to Hashem. So you have a monk that will live on a mountain somewhere and not talk for 72 years. There's such a concept, but he doesn't talk. But the talk and but the but the there are people that take an oath of celibacy. But in our world doesn't work that way. In our world to the contrary, the avoid is not to become an aesthetic. is to take the and and intertwine it and be together with so the go his mind oh it's a carbon how could I eat from a carbon carbon goes that's that's for the that's not something that I have being that his so even his was brought he said the word but really could be from we'll see more about that in a And we learn from there that any time of not based on but it's a you think would be what if the says clearly no no I want my carbon to be eaten he says I don't want it to be I want it to be eaten if it's learned out on this from maybe over there would have a if it's learned out from the doesn't matter what his is at the end of the day it's more of a den It's to be now that's clear in the only two choices. It's either a it's not going to be it's not going to be an is because the whole that a can even bring a carbon is learned out from the par of so a can only bring a carbon or a is not an is not. So it's only a carbon that's that we're even having this conversation about. So a car that's been we could sit down and we can discuss could I bring it? Could he not bring it? So it narrows it down to said that even when a guy is certainly if he's but even if it's still going to have a says that our we'll get to that in a minute. And now he has his kachchin. Now the guy himself is not allowed to eat from the kachchin. And the reason is he's not worse than an oral. An oral is not allowed to eat kachchin. Someone whose brothers were messag. So he has absolutely no business of eating kachch. So he gives it to his Jewish friends. So if he gives it to the eats it. He gives it to the kayen eats it. Problem is if it's an nobody's allowed to eat it. doesn't mean that the guy brought his own carving. It's talking about where he brought a schlamim on behalf of a yid. So it's going to be a yid's carbon. Oh, it's carving. Now we're ready. It could be aim. So if the yid was a it's going to be the schlam. If it's if this yid that he brought it for was a kay then it's going to be the kaylan. But we're talking about where the guy brought the carbon for the yid. He didn't bring the carbon for himself. asked and this the reason we're having this conversation right now and what was one of the 10 I thought if a guy brings a carbon it's always going to be so what does it even mean is an oxymoron can't be I thought it's always you're right it's a great the says that not only you have to say that really it's really and aishna is not like raun but at the same time it's a rahuna can't argue with unless he has a messia he has a t of the messiah and it's none other than the great the we learn it says in the ishib base is good. That's the in its entirety as brought on the side of the garish. Now, it could have said ish, but it says would imply is that even a god concludes with the words. So, I would think that a god can only bring a gun. that a guy could bring these carbonas as well. It could have said and instead it says could have said and said it said so okay if it's not if he could bring and he could bring and he could bring and so why then does the conclude by saying to tell me that he cannot bring of one of the carbonos that the Nazer brings of is and the emphasized that Only an nether in the in the typical sense is a god. Meaning you would have thought that maybe a god could have nazerus and bring the nazerus is in and of itself a nether. So maybe it's it's included in the par of that blood from that he can't bring the but the point is that holds that a is not limited to even though the a can bring a carbon clearly says but it doesn't mean that a guy cannot bring a carbon that's not a no. He's only let bottom line. So when said that he has true not it's true. We said that when the says it's coming to teach me that can't be awesome. I know that from the itself it says and we learn from there. It's pretty clear and we only had that. The guy would have thought that he only can't bring the carbon I need to one to tell me that he can't bring the carbon but the second one to tell me that he doesn't even have the para of nazerus at all. made seven and this was one of them that sent his brought sent from and he sent the we know the carbon came along with the came along with the carbon. So now we have a guy that sent the carbon from if he sends the if he didn't send then so there was a one of them was that we're going to take the money of the and we're going to use it to provide for this guy who sent his carbon from but what's the bottom line you see from here that we're bringing on behalf of a guy I could only bring an says the labor doesn't mean that we're going according to who holds that it's not only the carbon but there are other included as well says it could be it's going according to as well when it says meant he didn't just mean it meant and everything that comes along together with being that the was that came along together with the carbon it's for that reason that this Mishno this was relevant according to as well according to so we're going to stop a little abruptly we'll finish this tomorrow but I just wanted to speak out one piece of raid uh nifla that I heard from one of the members of our virtual kabura fry and that is we're all familiar with the parhelm the parhelm is The carbon that underpins is that if did an in that had done they would have been and now they went ahead and did but it wasn't ordinary it was done meaning the best that this thing that really is eating on eating is so the made a terrible mistake and they passed him that something which is so it's really is really okay acted upon this of and they went ahead and they did this a think thinking that it wasn't an a thinking that they had an issue from none other than the so did an a that had they done the ma they would have been they have to bring a carbas but instead of each individual within the bringing his own carbon they brought a carbas There was a katus. Now this kat was very different than most. This sber wasn't ais or a like most this was a par. Thus the par. This was different than most which were born. This was one of the five. It was one of the five that went one of the was done in the it was burnt. The point is is that it was a unique type of but the carbon that was brought was the says in parl that the only time the was brought was if the a that was done was an other than if the was a then has changed a little bit. Then a power was brought but instead of the power being brought as a the power was brought as an it was still a was a so ordinarily the was one carbon it was a if the was done was which is also a so then there were two carbonas that were brought there was a par that was brought there was a that was brought whereas ordinarily the par was the now the par changes the par becomes an you have to and over here instead the is going to the saw and Aphraim asked two questions. His first question he asked was is that why when do we suddenly bring a carbon? You know, we always speak out that in Ezra in the beginning of pious that talks about the carbon that if somebody was able to afford to bring the carbon by so he brought a he brought a regular what if he couldn't he had to bring and the question is why does he bring doesn't have to bring so why does the suddenly have to bring it doesn't have an we've spoken at a lot of ra about this over the years but it's a whole asked that why are we going from only bringing a suddenly bringing the same question over here. If the parl is being brought for a regular you bring what? All you bring is now all of a sudden because the a was so now suddenly you have to bring a paral and why do you have to bring regular katas didn't come with an so why does this all of a sudden have to come with another second question was it's that first was born and then the it was a parallel and only afterwards it was the we know the mishna says in the beginning of that always came before the that's the rail that in par of carbonus we say first and then says I was asked why does the come before the I thought the always came before the fellow all the we've spoken about we know the always comes before the yet over here first and then said and that we spoke out many times in and that is we Which gets the most he gets stating that there was something called an when it was an entire city was there is they got instead of says many times that and That's more than more than the get the get the is more than the because the the destroy even the possessions of the whereas he's going to get killed but his possessions are going to go over his possessions aren't going to be but had over the got And the question is why what's how is it possible that gets and gets downgraded? How could a not get the how's it possible that instead of getting we not even it gets lowered all the way down to what's so we spoke out many times said that deserves just like get the says that that's that doesn't it doesn't matter which But when is he always said that they don't get treated like is anymore they lose their privilege of being treated like Jews. They're going to be treated like a male. They're not messiah because enough for it to be of course. Of course, but the reason is is because they're getting down. It's because they're being treated like and being that they're being treated like it's for that reason always get they get a fri once showed me. So this is all a fry show right now but a fry once pointed out that really when he talks about so if you go through the it's a little confusing because a lot of people died after the but there were different types of miso sorts it out for us he says there were three types of that were administered after the somebody did with he gotishan Because this was a this was a rabbi. Thus he gets treated like if there was but there was no they were like they were killed through the so there were three there were some people that were killed and some theus asks on rashi that rashi says that there were some that got that if those people would treat it like their money should be taken away from them as well, their money should be destroyed. Why was their money not lost? says, "So we have if you want to look it up, we the ones that had were treated like why would they treat it like they acted like for a for a to be they're not going to be Why not? Because of course, of course. The reason they were treated this way is because they were treated like Frian said. The same is true for so again they acted like albeit on the level. This didn't happen on the ME level. This happened on the level, but on the level they did. And just like a rabbi is in the messiah a rabb that's has to be treated like so they have to make a carbon now but what kind of carbon the carbon of what kind of carbon does bring we just learned the this morning said it's the only carbon that a guy can bring is anah so you know what happens the you have to do is you have to You know why you bring an because you and you need just like it's not even though it doesn't matter. We have to down you like a you have to bring a carbon island. Now you can't go right into your bring after you bring your carbon. You got yourap of now we have to treat you like a now you bring your caras. So you want to know why the parallel of had an it had an because when it's there's a component and the component of a guy can only bring if a guy can only bring an first you have to bring the to get your from and it's only that's why it's first that's why there's And Isa half love a foul.