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Today's is and we are two lines from the bottom of today's being learned as today's also being learned as a for that she find augar. So we're moving along in the first perk of Makis. We already learned a second Mishna and the Gmorra on Dav in the middle of a digression mentioned uh that Rabo said and that is that in the event that a would be dam in a but the amount of dam would be mikashir it's not the amount that's needed in order to do the now is that the would not bead. So in order for to be madam you have to have the requisite share. If you don't have the requisite share the kiches cannot be madesh the dam. This is something that the Garra brought in the name of Rabazar and today staff is going to begin questioning could it be that Rabar said that says the Gmorra did in fact say that inevitability toades if you don't have the entire we as it relates to the now the is going to feature prominently in today's what we need to know on the onset is that this was a carbon ma that was brought by the every single day. The shear of the was in there was never a mah that was brought that was less than in however the was unique in that it was brought in two shots and we're about to see debated a very fundamental question related to the and that is what would be If the kod took half of the isurin and was mad in an ecclesar with the intention of taking the other half of the isin and beingaris would we say that a half plus a half equals a whole and as a result the would be kadesh or maybe being that every had to be at the minimum in the way we see the is also that it has to start off as in afterwards you'll take half of that and be mak in the morning half of that be in the evening. But if you're going to take half and try to bead half and half and it's not going to be kadesh. So specifically the question was if the would take half of the put it into a would it be kadesh at the end of the day you're being makit that way. So if you're being makit that way, who said you shouldn't be able to be mad that way also or maybe no or maybe to be makit fine but as it relates to the kadusha it has to be a fully surren that's always the minimum share of a after you give it the kadusha as a fully s then you'll take you'll take half of it and you bring it in the morning and you take the other half of it and you bring it in the evening. So says that as it relates to the it is not if you try only being half of it said no just like if you want to be half of it you could be half of it. So too if you want to be half of it you'd be able to be half of it as well. Now we're focusing on the began the opening words. But we need to zero in on that is going to analyze later in the course of the but for now the we need is raza said that if you take half of the of the and you put it into a it's going to be so now if is of the opinion that you can't be mish And should say that just like you can't be a mikashir. So too when it comes to the and you shouldn't be able to be makish mikashir either. How could it be that rebel holds that as it relates to being mish you could be m you can't be mish mikashir but as it relates to being mish you could be mish mikashir. Now the truth is and asks the what do you mean? It sounds like there's a but it almost sounds like that really usually you can't be and that's why you can't over here there's a new you should be able to but either way if you're going to tell me that you can't be then we should learn from the maybe you tell me maybe dam has it and says it's maybe we can't meaning we're talking a lot about how are so different yet they parallel each other right so the whole basis of the cash is that the or is somewhat similar to the to the to the right so I can hear but it's not true because that in the event that the was done in as opposed to where in that's where it's supposed to be done. says you do it in a but let's say you would do it not in the but you would decide I want to go and I want to do it in a place that's even holier than the aar I want to do it in the how do you know it's because you find that the was done in the now the is when the would remove from the which was now The bos was to the of the upon him the equivalent thereof to the to every which was the equivalent thereof to a ze right they all parallel each other fact is a it's referred to as a type of so is a it has its proverbial what's its removing the said being that the silic was done in the so you see that there's of a kit in the so if there's a musk of a kit by the al be it regarding the proverbial regarding the that was done by him then the same is going to be true as it relates to that if you want to do the that is something that you are going to be allowed to do but what do you see from here you see that is learning he's learning a law regarding a from regarding So we have a steer ostensibly in holds that can't be madi of yet you find that does have the ability to sanctify and givea to a kati of so maybe you'll tell me what is well you see already a precedent in the upon And he learned you could do even though the says the just like you could do in the so you see he is meaning he's not a stickler when it comes to know it has to be mish the same thing he has a little bit of a broad liberal type perspective when it comes to being so learns he learns from and then he should also learn from every says it's not a why is it not a we said is a and a of course is a and involves that you could learn. Hence you can learn from the however and that's why didn't want to learn that from the fact that you can't be in a means that so too you wouldn't be able to be inside either says the okay so basically what is rebel we're going to digress now what is rebel is says really learn when do you see that he learns we learn to now before we start this Bryce so we need a tiny bit of background information and that is that in the event that was before the cyen did the kit so before the ken had an opportunity to do the with the some of the became. So is it pass the entire meaning you can't be the he can't eat the this is 100% it's going to be a in the event that the did the afterwards some of the because once you do the by definition the rest of it is so some of the became so then is you'll never be allowed to eat could you be the that's so before the in the event that something is Everything is a problem. the can't go on the never gonna be if however it was after the for sure you can't eat the whe these laws will very much play themselves out in the next 10 lines of so says this is talking about the so before the were removed from the in the event that one of the breads of the upon him broke so Something is missing apostle is the and you can't be the why not this is the equivalent thereof to a before the is the equivalent of so if something wasra something is broken something is incomplete so everything is off limits you can't go ahead and do the anymore meaning you can't do the you can't be mocked on the additionally you're not going to be able to go now and eat the what would be if it happened after you already removed meaning after you did the proverbial is going to be possible and if you want to be that's something you're allowed to do okay now we need because right we're humbling now he said that when it says in this actually versus the word over here It's not meant to be taken literally. as soon as meaning if you look at the it's already the time where you're allowed to go ahead and be which was when by the way was on chabases right that's when they used to divide the upon him that's the schis but the bottom line is it's once he g at that point that's when the inflection point is that's when everything changes meaning before this man of the if it was one of the sedan and everything is possible, right? You can't be m you can't eat the if it happened even if you physically didn't go ahead and do the at that point is going to be that you can't eat the but at the same time you want to be you can't what's the how could that be when it comes to it's did I do the did I not do the it's not what time it is that's the only thing that matters. And if you're going to tell me that and he holds that the from the mirrors 100% the of the well just like as it relates to the carbon you physically have to do the and if it's right just to speak this out clearly of the but you didn't physically do the and it was everything is going to be possible the shar then when it comes to the it should be the same exact thing even though it's already this man of doing the silic but at the end of the day if I didn't do it yet should be that is possible and if I want to be mocked I can't be mocked now even okay it's two different but you're telling me is that and by the way the example was it was from so then the same should be true over here so why is it that when it comes to is one way and when it comes to deceive is another way it's holy that's not and the reason is because I'll tell you that when it comes to the really theoretically hypothetically would be that it's not totally did I do the kit did I not do the kam but rather it would be to right theoretically it could be that the problem is and let's speak it out outside if you didn't do the kit yet there is no kits there's no kits I mean the whole of once man comes, we look at it as if it already happened and that's all I care about. It's because it's something that's going to happen. It's already okay, you're going to say, right? It's obvious. It's presumable that that's going to happen. So, I could see it up as if it happened even though it didn't happen yet. That's the underlying lumbus. I can't have that when it comes to the kits because until I do a there's no how could I see up the if I don't have the in other words by the I don't physically have the right what does it mean I wasn't yet the that's going to be called the and as a result doesn't mean anything as it relates to the and that's a proverbial But really I'm taking the entire and that's physically sitting on the right now over there and it's for that reason once it's already it's but I can't have a command when it comes to because I physically don't have a but has one other the end of the day I still don't understand this because why is it that if it's right at the end of the day I shouldn't be able to be the anyways and the reason is because it should be like the of that was between the is that you can't be the Mar's asking a a follow-up question that's an addendum if you're going to tell me that really we don't sue the to the because we then I have another problem with this because this said that once you or once it's but regardless for sure once you if it's afterwards so what was the you will never be able to eat but you could be what's that if it becomes after the then you can't eat the but also you can't be mocked or the so why is that now what's really the in the event that it became after the so we said it's right we made a big deal about it for a reason we were segueing into this part of the that you for sure can't eat the but could you be mak it's a shil but the gumar is clearly picking sides right is being super biased like one second You can't be mocked the if it's after the then if you shouldn't be able to be which again is a cash on the says you know like the other could be the hills like the others like the other this is not going to be a problem either way so what just happened we just did a little bit of an analysis in the world of Raber right that's basically what happened we took a whole bunch of shittas of rabalazar and we tried plugging them together. We have a sheet raar that can't be dam if it's miker. We have a that says that in the event that you took the you put half of it in a we have another holds even though it's really supposed to be done in that's what the titer says but if you did in the it's going to be okay and the reason is because you find that was done in the this can be done in the as well what do those three have in common they all somehow gravitate towards one general and that is one type of like a good oldfashioned that requires from a an alternative type of such as the at the end of the day the is that we're but we're notif and that's why if you find regarding we can learn something as it relates to that's the bas that that's the way it is. At the same time is not so that even though when it comes to if you put a into a it's not going to be but when it comes to over there it could be kadesh. So it's interesting that again we started through going back to one pratt of the previous we somehow digress into this general discussion. Do we learn? Do we learn? We'll see in following the paper trail of the rest of the daff. This is a a very much theme of the daff. It's going to repeat itself. Thear is going to handle different with regards to this shil with a yal mus not yal mus which by the way seems like a 20,000 foot view type of shila very broad general shil when it comes to analyzing a lot of these either way. So the had brought between regarding the if you put half of it into is it is it notes said it's now is going to do a deeper dive into this. It's not called says if you can be micro that holds that it is not says it doesn't say let's see what it says. It says so it mentions the ma and then the says he doesn't bring the in one shot but it says first the entire and then take half of that and then take another half of the mka. So it says you know what the is saying first bring the right bring the take half of it that is the basis for argued at the end of the day it's also basically gonna ask two cases from two cannot have been brought has a half. You had to bring a full and afterwards you divided it. Who is this a mon right bring a half a in the morning half a evening says and we learn from there that you have to bring half of a whole meaning it has to start off as you can't bring a little in the morning little in the evening you bring everything in the morning and then you take half of that and half of that again another that seems to support the sheet of not like these are twoases on and the gives a one word answer to both it's true you have two but those are only telling me that those how could you say that the regarding the are only mitzvah Luke later it says and we know the word which is the same which has the word is always so he told him it says the word and means it's right just like you have by and you find by the right there's certain parishes in the terra throws in a word to teach me it's one of those magic words is the word or so if it says I know it's leva Hold my hair. You have to say a different you have to say that those braces when they say it had to be it didn't mean that the be it didn't mean you had to put the whole into the it just meant when you bringing me that had to be showing that's a real thing and that actually has a and that's where it means but afterwards you could be a even you don't have to put the full she into it in one shot either that you want to know why those two braces are not on because those braces are not necessarily talking about how the became kadesh but more how the was brought. So let's uh hit the pause button again. We just have to follow the paper trail. The paper trail is a little windy here. So we have this between and says Rab explained the he explained it with why we having this conversation because it doesn't with the other who holds that you can't make okay but now we pivoted a little bit to discuss we know right is the one who gave it to us we even have two braces that at first glance we seem to support are they catches on says no. The Gomar was able to dra it, but the Gamar now is going to focus on in fact what that you can't make if you have a halfish here. We learned if somebody was a half of any and he put it into a and his eventually to add the share. So half is not enough of a sh but he has a mind to beh says it's not going to be says that it's going to be holds that if you take a half a share of a regular and you put it into a as long as it's going to be okay says no way how could you make a half a kesh holds right let's learn from and why we learning has he learned it from a so he has a that you have to have the full in order to make every should be the same way you'll tell me what's maybe this is interesting till now when we were discussing comparing and contrasting it was from or it was a classic from which is more of an alternative type but the is suggesting that maybe holds you can't even which is a unique type of to a regular but says I know it's not true you know why I'm said if the carbon was done in the now we supposed to it's so it's anywhere in but certainly not in the said no if you do it in the it's going to be Okay, because it says that the had to be done, right? That's how we know from that you weren't allowed to until they opened up the the but the bottom line is that because it says is okay and if is good certainly if you're in the is good it sounds a little like from the you have to have some nexus to the so if you is good oh man if that's the case if I'm in the then it's going to be God. What's the you see from here is where do you see that? So for that we need says the last line of you see learns the from the that's also from is I got news for you. Again, it's it's you have to know where the stubbornness is coming from. I don't want to learn. When we know that, I guess we'd be able to understand the a little bit better. But the if you're not so just because is good and even that is going to be okay. But what's the bottom line? The bottom line is that we have a a problem with said when it comes to that if you put half of it into a yet is that if you put a half into a it's going to be okay. Don't tell me that is between the two because he's not because he is he's a different it's you have to say that the punchline in who holds when you put a half a share is because where I have to be then it's different. So the case of it sounds like it's talking about where it wasn't but if I had over there it's going to be different and really it's based on it says in the where does it say this is by the so it says and we learn from there that the only time The cliches has the ability to give kaducha to the is if it's shing. What does it mean? It's shulling. Doesn't mean that the cup has to be full. It means the has to be said. When is that true? If when you put in you didn't have a mind to be but to be then no whatever you put in is going to be okay. The bottom line is there's a precedent from that there's a distinction between that's the way we reconcile with two. If it's not then you have to have a full ship. It's then you're not going to have to have a full ship. Now going back to this and said yeah based on is going to focus on who does hold as it relates to regarding let's make the on our own. If Rah held like Rabbazar that held that you could make a half and then how could he hold that if you're going to be Maktish only a half of a it's not going to be leaves doesn't he learn it from right we're trying to figure out Rabu holds that if you put a of a into a even if you still it's not going to be called what would he hold as relates to right we know holds by holds we know what he holds where it's going to be is it a no good ravine regarding he said it's not good what does Rav hold regarding do we have any insight's initial reaction is if he holds not like if he holds like that it's kadesh by the then it should be kadesh here as well right so at first glance you would think he can't hold But maybe you'll tell me that no really he holds like and he holds regarding the it's going to be called however regarding a regular and you know why because maybe keep on going back to this maybe doesn't learn says we know it's not true said you could be a you could give it its kadusha even if there's no oil so needs oil is not every m needs oil didn't have oil but didn't have oil but a regular most required oil. So Rabb's talking about a that requires oil. If you would take the soil, you would put it into a without it would be kadesh. You know why? Because you find the was and it had no oil and you were able to give it by put it into a so that requires lev can get kadusha if you put into even without the because the didn't have got you can give a that needs and without putting any had no she and no what do you see from here rav learns. So if Rav learns says the it would be very hard to suggest that Rav holds like that is yet he holds even when you're how could that be right to go the other way you can go you could say I hold by the not but when I'm because but if rabbis not how could he hold by the yeah it's almost impossible you're like in other words as it relates to clearly on the same team. They both hold it's not we know it implied as it relates to as it relates to a regular that's hold that it would be and holds that it wouldn't be. So the bottom line is that again it's a little bit of a winding but what emerges is as it relates to being we started off being then we had the proved proved it from a an interesting source from the fact that so we're learning from that's called yal and we also know that ra is yal mah. How do you know that ra is yalf? We know from the fact that he holds you could give kadusha to a mah that requires she without the she or that requires without the and even a that requires without the she and the reason is because there's some that get kadusha on she some andra on either way now is going to do a deep dive from I think at this point we've we're digressing from our digression you know Ben digression but again following the paper trail goofa get now just to be clear, you can't be mate on the we're talking about just giving it that. So it gets kadusha on you know why was a didn't have so even a that need can get on didn't have and it got because you find no yet it had kadusha the another interesting the she and the itself can on their own get kadusha one without the other meaning if you want to give the shem and the event independently that's something you can do the reason is all it was was again we're talking about the she that's going to be used for I would think maybe to give it kadusha it has to be with the rest of the answer is no because you find that sometimes the she was brought on its own like she that's not mixed with any soil and it had kadusha on it own. So this also had kadusha on its own. Where do you find that the lev was brought on its own that was brought with the so that you see those things were brought by themselves they got kadusha on their own. So it's for that reason it makes sense that even when they're part of a bigger picture the part of they could get kadusha on their own. This is all raita in the brace. So again we knew the first half of this ra we just brought the extended version. Rav hold the silus and the she without the lavina the silus and the lev without the she just the silus just she just any component of a can get kadusha if it's in a on its own even if it's not to with everything else and you find sometimes they only brought the sometimes they brought the without the sometimes they brought just And sometimes they brought just you know based on that idea you'd be able to get a kadusha. Who's the second that the way this works is that in the event that you have a that requires notades any one of them. Look at the top on the king. HAS to be 100% together and if it's not all there together it's not going to be okay says the an interesting why was it that the is measurement in the B mikdash had been smeared with the shame now why did they do mashik with Mishka they wanted it to have kadusha why does it have to have kadusha to be able to go now and give it the kaduca that it needs. Now the kasha is that when they put the isurin into that k to measure the isurin there was no oil in it yet right it was there it was a measuring cup so you want to make sure that you're going to have the full isarin now that you have the isurin you're going to mix it with oil and you're going to pull a by the way at that point it's going to be more than isarin because you just added all these different ingredients so the gar is why did daddy saurin have kadusha right nice kasha bishlam according to rav you could give kadusha to the soilus on its own so they had the sarin That's the minimum share. They put the in it's a cliche is it's going to give it to Kadusha. But according to So when all you have is the soilus in that isari measuring cup because again that's all you have there. You're measuring you're trying to figure out if I have the [ __ ] then I'm going to mix it with the oil. Why does it have to be at that point you're not doing anything with it. It still it didn't get if it didn't get why does it have to be kesh gives a very simple answer right it's for the never had it never had so for that they said why I'll put it in the measuring then I'll put it into another cle might as well give this give it to like this is going to be called what about the measuring cup that was used for the she why did they do mashik on that it was like because Again the leg of the that didn't involve any cellulus. It didn't involve any leva. It didn't involve anything else. So there when you measure up the leg, you want to give it the kadusha that it needs already. Why not? I should put it into another cup. It doesn't make any sense. That's why they put in the butami. When they were measuring the soil in the isari measuring cup that was going to didn't get any. And when they put the oil into the measuring cup to use it afterwards with the even though it was it didn't get any kaduca and the reason is so Rav holds yeah but holds no. By the way doesn't speak this out but it sounds like we made a big deal that holds and holds and holds. Sounds like would maybe be the that's because Rav's of is predicated on hold. It would seem very logical that the basis for his is because he holds also holds like graph which by the way is always uh newsworthy. It's always traffic stopping right also holds like graph. No it never holds like right they argue about everything. So it can't be that Rav are on the same page. No, they are on the same page. Okay. Regarding what? So we're going to see also holds like that if you have a requirement and you put only the into the even though the is not there. So it's not right now but I feel this is going to have the ability to give it. How do I know holds that? So never said, but we're going to imply it from something that said and we're going to see the implication is going to be a little bit of a leap of faith is what that implication even is the next eight or so lines of we learned to. And if this sounds familiar, it's because we just learned this together in the end. So there were different types of that were used in the B. Some of them were they were used for liquids. Other words they were used for solids. So the Mishna says no ability to gave a very important addendum to this. this that we're saying that there's a distinction between that's true with regarding the measuring cups. So there if you put into the it's not going to work but as it relates to the mis that was used for the of the right of even though it's a it could be now I know that because it says so you have to look at the beginning of that it's talking about the carbon this is the same we quoted on that's the word we need. So you have a misro and it's filled with what? It's filled with that's you see clearly that what? So you see that the miz was even right the Mishna says it's not it's talking about the measuring cups but as it relates to the actual ki to give it the kadusha that it needs that it's something it would be able to do. Now the says I don't understand how you could learn from that why not because and by the way even though we know some didn't have yeah but this is it. So you see it was so it was there was clearly she inside. So it was again told because understood that even though the was but sometimes it wasn't properly mixed. So there might be a little bit there and it sounds like even that part of it has so it's from the even though the blue is but from the that's where the rise says it's true the is not right it's not as dry as the sand in the desert but at the same time clapping dam which is what this was meant to be used for it is considered yvish and being that it was considered yish and that was really meant to be used for has the ability to give this. So he says that don't matter when it comes to regular it only matters when it comes to the measuring either way from this which again should sound somewhat familiar from this the infers that that if you would take a that requires and you would only put the into the but not the she the would give kadusha to the and the question is what exactly is the where do You see this in what is not talking about this. So what exactly is the if you take a look at Rashi Rashi says it's a very very very hard to understand the bottom place on the jumps off jumps over all over I should say jumps back we're being you know passing over the but the bottom line is that is all over this and brings a different who is the so again in the spirit of so we'll speak out of bam and the rashbam says that I'm going tell you what the Gumar meant to say. What the Gumar meant to say was one thing. The meant to say that what would be the should not be able to give to the it's probably because we view it as right we probably view it as being that this is supposed to be with she and now it's on she so it's somewhat in a deficient state right so because it's it's in a deficient state it's not really yet to get kush maybe it shouldn't have the ability to get kadusha holds that a clear could go ahead and give kadusha to a that means we're not so medic we're not so medic in terms of whether this is right for this clear right now or if it's not right for this right now and it's for that reason right let's see it inside it's the last and it's three lines in Again, it's a little bit of a leap of faith, but the is coming to say is that if you see that even though it's not for this, so so too a kay that is meant to or so to a ma that's meant to have another ingredient that's put into a a kay without that other ingredient would still be able to to get its kadusha if you want just a little more of a typhus beer it's clear is saying a drop more than that and that is that what's ra's whole lumbus ra's lumbus is that if I take the soilus without the she and I put it into this is in kayi so it's going to get the kadusha why being that it's for the is saying a little bit of alundus that the lumbus is that this ki is to give kadusha to the with only silus being that it could give kadusha to the with only soil it's for that to give it kadusha the way it is so so it's going to give kadusha to another which it's technically not for to give because you need you You need everything else going on in that same vein that either way where the was done in the is going to be because you find this by the every time the says what does it mean? Means we're referring back to something that we spoke about earlier. This was mentioned earlier where there was three lines from the top of right this was the rebar holds that were which initially asked as a notif. So this is a goofa. We're referring back to something that we spoke about a little bit ago ago. Second said the was done in the is because you find the civic which is the equivalent thereof to that's it says in the now where does it say so the says like this a person has to bring a comes into the brings it to the should go from there and do said you know It means the place that the gave the over to the he should do the mean. That's a place that the who's bringing the is allowed to stand. He could stand in the could he go into the O of course he can't go into the and being that the can't go into the that how could it be that what that said it says isn't that coming now you brought a so we bring the end of the how do you know that in the event did with his left and which is not okay. So you should put the back in and now do a with his right hand says right that even though you did a bad you could undo it and you could do a good but what's the bottom line is not from it's from so says there's two versions of what happened next asked and gave his own Some say that told explained it as follows that what this price is coming to say when it says is not to exclude the but what it's coming to say is it's coming to be the entire Why don't I would have thought that maybe kamita has to be in suffen. You know why? Because it's required. So I would have thought this required as well. In other words, when the when the says it's not the you know it's coming to do it's coming to exclude that don't think you need why would have thought you need but says there's that you could learn the from the maybe that's I need soften. There's no to think that should need th I should need a mar says okay I hear maybe you would never have been able to learn it from the but you know why I need a because otherwise you could have thought you should learn but says even from requires says I hear okay you could have learned to maybe which is also something that requires soften so Maybe too, right? It involves blood as opposed to uh as opposed to the maybe learn it from right. You'll tell me. Oops. Doesn't work right. There's no in other words you can't learn either because they're all soar says I'll tell you what the is again this is not coming what's it coming to do thought maybe it's coming says there's no you need soften the would have tell you it's soften you don't need a to tell me that it's not soften right it did soften would have to say there's no hamina that it's soften without a a fellow I'll tell you what the kadesh is I would have says come no one that was done with and where was the I could have thought that the equates the you don't need to so theesh is not that not soften it's also not coming to tell me that the is going to be possible is going to be caut what then is this person coming to teach me you don't need why would I have thought because needs and the says so I would have thought that that's not the way it's going to be so just to end with one short and this is really a that was left on the table last week and it's posh it's it's so poshet I'm like afraid to call it a rape bite but uh it's very very simple it's and I just think it's to mention so the first in like the first was the and really like all things versus we get the longer version of it and we get the abbreviated version of it but the very first is right as it relate to is if he is it's even going to be possible in the course of the we saw that was a big topic of the first and second half and then we saw the of and regarding that was a big topic of the third the fourth and the fifth right but very much is related to Rashi on that in says quote it's mascul as it relates to the the has to be with the actually saying out of his mouth the thing that he's not so supposed to say. says the word in the context of bad and is a little bit of a misnomer. The reason it's a little bit of a misnomer because really if all the did was have a bad thought of that in and of itself would not render the carbon possible. That would not render the carbon possible. How would the carbon become possible? only if he expressed verbally, orally with words this bad thought that he's having and Rashi says that it's not just true for the but it's true for all it be of some of the other that come up in different but allies of has to be rashi says the same exact act in it's the middle of a rashi says every single time you find the idea of it's something that has to be expressed the truth is that this of that of have to be is not only rash's It's as well. As a matter of fact, in all of these places and more says verb says that every single time you find the of you should know the word is really a misnomer it's something that needs to be spoken out it's a very big right I mean the one of the big themes of kachum is the bad thoughts and turns out it's not even a bad thought that's not the nuda the nuda is it's it's bad speech It's something that would have to be speaking at the inciml he's from that couldn't have held that way when he introduces the concept of bad. So the Ram says and he says even though and all that we just mentioned is that it has to be but he says if you want to know what the is the is that this is something that would have to would only have to be even without that would be enough in order for it to be a problem. In other words, we have a very fundamental regarding all the is it or is it could be and again this is it's more posh than this shah would seem to be in the two that we have in kazal and in the for why it is that if somebody does an avoid with a bad it's going to be a problem theoris says, "How do you know that if somebody has a bad it says in the we know you get you get so right who holds according to you would get malas but says what is that if someone has a he say and according to you would even get malus it's because it says in the now the truth is if you look at the you look at the in that says understanding of is very much the is said in par in the parish of the right so we spoke about this in The introduces all the carbon and then in par the rounds off a lot of the wen mentioned in paras. So this is in the par of right is always referred to as one of the is as follows. The says and really it starts a early earlier. The says that if somebody brings a carbon you have two days and a night to eat it if you have anything left over by the third day if you have to burn it let's say you have leftover bus already on the third day at that point you can't get the person that brought it the carbon will not be considered a good carbon on his behalf yet It's going to be disgusting. Any person that is from he will have to beer his sin. Meaning he didn't get any to the contrary he ended up doing a terrible by eating this. If you were learning, you would almost be tempted to say, it sounds like what the T is saying is if you bring a and you eat from the then retroactively it knocks out your carbon. In fact, Piggle, the whole thing is disgusting. And because you ate the but says can't be that's what the means and the reason is because how could it be that at the time that the did he got and now 3 days later all of a sudden because you didn't eat the now you did eat from it now it has no must be that this means something completely different and this is talking about in real time while are being done. And we're not talking about that was left over, but we're talking about to leave over the he had in mind to eat the or not get then it's going to be but even in the of which of course is the even in the of when it says all it means is is that the carbon should not be considered your carbon. It's a little tricky this because took this and they said it's talking about but didn't get it from the words got it because there's nothing else the could be referring to. In fact, even in the means it won't be as if you brought a carbon stating that because it says but it's from again we just have to understand what's going on here as if it would say or it would say thou shall not have a bad but the bottom line is this is in the days that you're not allowed to have a pig and for that matter you're not allowed to have any when it comes to but the truth is there's another the other is a and this is in the over there says you're not let that has a blemish anything bad is a problem because if you're going to do this it's a it's a disgusting thing parathetically I had to speak this out says that this was only said here with regards to right even though really is true not only regarding it's true regarding true regarding all the right so why did the say I'm going to tell you why because this is talking to non talking to and the only a that's for that reason the terrorist says He says now the Raman doesn't explain so much why this has to be talking about but if you look at the Ramb says that every single that the says in non fact asks as a little bit of a how come wasn't why don't we view the laws of in the same way that we review so many of the other in the says, "I'll tell you why." Cuz if a hears something once, he doesn't have to hear it a second time. It's the rest of us that are right or we need to hear it again and again and again. And it's for that reason the hadover. And that's why there's a parish. IT'S BECAUSE THE OVER HERE wanted you to know and the said, you know why? is the one element of a carbon that's reason it's for that reason the was very careful in the way it's spoken out and this is doesn't say that but it's the Raman is essentially telling you to what I wrote in the but either way so this is talking about because it's only so what does the say what could the zor not do He can't check an animal that has a addition. He can't check an animal that has. So what does mean? So if you take a look at this is an I think it's posit by the way. I think it's posh. We spoke about the a few dolphin ago. The ramp where the Ram says if someone has a bad it's similar to being and we said was very bothered with this what's the Ram giving me You should know it's possible because the terrorist says it's possible or but when it comes to a a carbon where it's going to be but the bottom line is that said, "But where did the Ram really get this from?" Again, the Ram is on the stage as the ra. But where did the Ram get it from? I think it's he got it from this. THE RAM SAW THAT THE was the putting them together. No, and is like it's Pure to me. This is where the Ra go. Why anyone say it? Probably because it's so right. So obvious where the ra got him from but we have two we have two to this we have two not let have a bad one is learned from it says in the parish of and the second one is in par as quoted by aim one makar says the other mar says I think it's these two that we find over here the rashi and that a mak in kachen has to be and the of the ra that as long as it's enough which seem to boil down to the two that we have as it relates to what the is if the means if the is means would have to be now at the end of the day we have to reconcile it is pick again that's already for another conversation maybe but the bottom line is I think it's posit that the twoas that you find in the are rooted in the twoas in the two sources in the two that you find to the idea of seller catch