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Today's is and we will begin from the Mishna in the middle of dhe available init came from a place called says the second base place was rev which was not init but rather was on the other side of the Jordan River You can take oil from all but you should take it from which is alpha and which is I guess better. But the point is that you want to take from either or from this is obviously for oil that was used in the B mikdash. Now oil was used in the BA mikdash primarily for the that's why we're talking about it right now. Additionally for the we'll see more about that later. to take oil from olives that grow in a field that is fertilized or from olives that grow in a field that relies on irrigation or from olives that grow in a field where other things are planted. of things are planted in between the olive trees that would disqualify those olives to now be pressed and use its oil for the stating that all the affformentioned oils are. So the have different and exactly how to pronounce this word but we'll go with the which we'll see later means unripened olives. not let it take oil from olives that were soaked in water or from olives that were pickled or from olives that were cooked. The Mishna began that the best oil, the best olive oil init came from a city called says. So the context over there is Yoyov is trying to broker peace between and his father. So he calls for a very wise woman. And where did this woman live? She lived in Yoya in Takaya. and she's going to come now and she's going to consult so that she can try to help navigate this process says the why did go to find this and said it's because we said that was there was very good olive oil in the city of and as a result the people in were wiser than ordinary people as a result it wasn't a coincidence went to find this but rather it was because there was so much olive oil. It's for that reason it's of course based on we'll see more about that later the says regarding this is in the says usher is going to have so much oil that he's going to be able to bathe his feet not in water but rather in oil says There was so much oil that it literally ran like a mine. It is said the people that live in needed oil. So they hired a broker. They told him go buy for us a million mana. 100 times 10,000 back of the envelope arithmetic. A million mana. That's the weight of the oil. He went to they told him that we don't have this kind of oil in if you want such oil go to the city of they told him I'll be honest with you can't facilitate this much oil go to the city he went to which by the way was they told him go to he lives he works that field you'll find him go speak to him he can work it out He's going to get you the oil that you need. So this goes actually he wasn't aid. He says this goes and he finds this person. He was doing work underneath his olive tree. He was the farmer. He was in the field. He told him, "Do you have this milliona of oil that I need?" He told him, "Come back to me at the end of the day. I'm working right now." and then we'll talk him to wait until he finishes. So this person took his calem, put it in a bag, a sack over his shoulder and he started walking home and as he's walking home he was picking up stones acting like a farmer. So he told him because this person wasn't really getting the sense that he was sitting with such a gir someone that was able to satisfy this order that he has to make. This person's working this field. He's picking up the stones along the way. And he started sensing I think the Jews were making fun of me. So he was in Yehudi. He went to the Jews. He said, "Where can I get oils?" They send him to he meets this farmer and this person who'sing in the field, he's the one that's going to give him a million mana of oil. says, "When he came to city, he was greeted by his and she took out hot water." Afterwards, she took out a golden basin that was filled with oil. And he literally he washed his hands and his feet from working in the field the entire day out of a basin that was made out of gold and not with water, but rather with oil. He lived and he was a living embodiment of a of the of says after they ate and drank he gave him his milliona of oil. By the way, do you need any more? This is a good account. He told him he does but I just don't have the money for it. He told him, "If you want, you can take it. I'll escort you. I'll take you home and when you get home, you'll give me the money then he took another 180,000 mana it is said in order to carry all this oil." So they needed a fleet. So it is said that they didn't leave over not a horse, not a ferret, which is a mute or a camel. They rented every car in when he came to city. So the people of the city, they came out to meet this agent, this broker, and they were praising him for what a he was. So he told no, no, no, don't. I'm a I'm not the person you should be praising. He's the another 180,000. And he said this story, this episode was a of the AK that said in there are people that walk around as and really they don't have anything miss. Then there are other people that everybody think is a and really he's a great right here. The agent he looked like he's the grace over here. In the meantime, somebody paid him a few shekels to go ahead and broker this deal. And not just that, he had to figure out where he was going to come up with another 180,000. Whereas the this farmer, this person who was a pasha person, old school, worked in the field, worked his own business, didn't hire anybody, and he was obviously sitting on a rav. So the agent was the ace. The farmer, the person that owned the oil, he was the roy. Either way, before we go there, just one. So we mentioned the And obviously the brought to the end of the that was rag. Why are we talking about she? Because the mission is discussing the she that was used for the and that ideally ala the best she came from a place called was but it seems there was a lot of oil and this was really of this what's the beginning of the really in this three is going to be gbench with good kids he's going to be beloved he's going to be his brothers are like him and he's going to have a he's going to have a tremendous amount of oil says a beautiful tit and in the end of migillas we all know the very very last so migillas concludes this is the very as possible as and it talks about he was he was the second in command. He was says it was after the story of Purima became and he became involved in politics. Obviously he was doing it for the but this is who was a member of the And there were members of this that felt that it was wrong that should not have left. He should not have left his and instead get involved in political affairs even though it was for the interest of as a result. Thus he was he wasn't but explains the he says he says had too much going for him. He was he's married to Esther. There was just too much and because he had too much going for him. It was inevitable says that people were going to be jealous and as a result he was only it's not because of anything he did. No, he was right for becoming the but you want to know why he was and not because somebody who has what has inevitably is going to have people that are going to detract him. people that are not going to be by the reason is is push simple good oldfashioned thus he was only what came to mind was a cha from the hud that we always speak out this is one of the most famous chasana it's famous because it's where talks about hunting so there was a great that sent he told him that he owned hundreds of acres of forest and he liked sometimes on a on a Sunday afternoon to go hunting And he asked if it's okay and told him hunting. He says whoever heard that goes hunting. Says there's two people in the that went hunting. Asa was a hunter and nimrod was a hunter. He says so this is the part that's quoted in yeshiva is that even though it's not but still it's not a y thing but the truth is there's so much in this beyond that well-known excerpt of it. But at the very end tells the as follows. He says, "Where weren't the fact that I love you so much, someone that apparently was I would have never answered the Shiloh had to prioritize. He had a triage when it came to answering Shilas. He got Shils from all over the world." There's always like a an excuse, so to speak. Why did Hudic certain Shilas to respond to? He says, "Really, I wouldn't have responded to the Shiloh in terms of priorities. I don't think this is top priority. Could you go hunting in your backyard? But at the same time, I felt that this was necessary. Why? Because I know that you and your family have a wonderful reputation. I have to protect your family because I am sure that you have you know why? Because they hate you. It's in there has to be people that are that that can't forget what you have and as a result that brings and I have to protect your family and it's just too vulnerable and that's why I'm writing the Shila I don't think you should do it because people are going to hear about it and all it's going to do is it's going to ruin your wonderful reputation. That's the seven Ezra that was guilt became subject to this sinner regardless that's going to have wonderful kids he's going to be but at the same time he's not going to be only like he's going to be that's the is he's going to have so much but at the same time he's going to be it's interesting that. So the first of the three mentioned in this is if you take a look at says there were no that had like says but if he doesn't explain and I and I don't know in what way was more than all the other it's interesting because actually in the next line in the amount of time it takes to say not even the next line says what does that mean his daughters were very beautiful says in the next line that was what does it mean it was had very beautiful daughters and the and the when they came to choose a bride they would take their wives from you would think maybe that's the Rashi says I don't know what the is says in the next breath maybe that was the but either way Rashi doesn't seem to be happy with that being what the means when it says but regardless In addition to all the he also had this his were all that were why he says I'll tell you a classic on this in par says a different he says based on aim regarding so what's the It's not finished. It's a little bit of a hard but the as follows. What does it mean that the was like in what way? This week's para she was when she was 100 she was like she was 20. when she was 20 she was like seven usher had this in his family doesn't have any exactly how the is explained in the it's paras if you want to look it up but says that had a that was in other words they didn't have any says says that that's the reason that used to marry because has to be very careful not to become is very very important. It was a very big as you don't want to ever become. So it made sense for the to marry. Why? Because they didn't have being that they didn't have you're never going to run into issues of so many of the issues that you find in neither related. But being that they had the seemingly it's in they were there was no there's no you're never gonna run into suffices. That's why the would go out of his way. It was for that sense. But if that's the case, you can understand the beginning of the also needed to be you know why he needed a because if they didn't have so that's not a school for so how are they going to have children? You know what the answer was? This at the same time that they were which means but at the same time they also had a they had I'll just tell you one other I saw in the right on this P is on. So he says that So said that maybe was related to the fact that they didn't have being that they didn't have so there was no suffices that would be a deterrent for the being able to do the so he goes but he's just he has one beautiful and that's based on a well-known rivet spoke about this rivet years ago who brings from the brings it in who says says he says that a whose wife is not like this but the rabbit brings it and the brings it and discusses it but the point is is that this was is that if a's wife is aid he shouldn't do and the reason is because and if that's the case if the coen is living with his wife that's aid in the same oil so he now was to on some rabbitic level and as a result he's not he's not supposed to I think mentions it in the in the context of why we don't but regardless brings it and he says that nobody should be in this because it's not then he says at the end which sounds like he was to the he just said it's not so but regardless that's this he says if that's the case it's the who's living with his wife and she's going to become a need now mid is going to be an issue of tumasido because of the oil that he somehow got because of the fact that he's living in the same oil with his wife. So the rabbit brings it with regards to so if you're discussing the who has to go in and do so if he's going to be living with you're going to run into issues of so says the maybe that's why as a result they didn't have they didn't have it's like this you don't have to worry about it this is the the First, we will get back to some more a little bit later. You're not allowed to take oil from olives that grow in a field that's fertilized. So, the Mishna had said the really that the Gar is going on. said you're not let which soon is going to explain means unripened olives. If the oil came from such an olive it's not okay is here you see says the garbn and the reason is because being that the olive didn't fully ripen. So the oil that comes out of it is it's just some discharge but it's not really oil that it could be it's true there's a steer between the but it could be one was going like the other was going like says because if he would have such a olive he would throw it away no he would use oil from such a olive he would take his bread and he would dip it into it. The and to remember which one of these would use it says the very often is audi was an as a result says the who was the one that didn't want to throw it away didn't have so much money so yeah he threw it away but the great right the rich get richer sobbi was we'll get back to this. That's of course a referring to oil. It's referring to that comes from an oil that didn't grow yet a third. It's unripened is this. Why do people use it? And specifically, why did the women have to use it before they met with because it removes here? And it causes the skin to glow. If somebody has oil that came from aas that was pickled that was cooked sorry it soaked in water or it came from the sediment of olives or if it has a bad smell what's the if somebody is mish these olives you get malus for being or not what's the sh if someone's he gets malus so somebody would take similar from an that's to be used as part of the now he's do we say that it's ple in the sense and as a result you get the lav of it's true it's but the of related this is not considered says the is so before we go v just one more and that is that the mentioned that and had different minhogen as it related to unripened olives was he would get rid of it. wouldn't use the oil and it's based on that that the says that because nobody uses it he would use it the and a good way to remember which one used it and which one didn't use it is seems to be saying that the reason used it is because he was an and aim thus used it didn't use it but It's was a that's the truth is what would seem like a more reasonable is we know the says that he lifted his 10 fingers and he said that despite all the wealth that he had he wasn't so followed in his father's ways and his father despite his phenomenal wealth But at the same time he wasn't nana from his wealth. So I'm sure wasn't even na from his wealth. So maybe that's the reason that he was the average person maybe wouldn't have but is following his father's he wasn't bad. Ah a parish would use it. What's the question? A parish would use it. Sounds like well it's just a question. Would would the man on the street use it? Remember wasn't the man on the street. He was a push. his father was literally was able to say that he was never so could be in that vein. So what came to mind was over there brings this week's parishes parish is told and rashi brings right at the beginning of parish is told that andos and it is said says the rashi quotes it that regarding he walked into you invited over for dinner. It was set literally says what says what's going on. Doesn't say that he said he wasn't feel bad. And here you find that his table was literally set like a king. It says that he himself wasn't but that's already a whole different story. So he wasn't preparing the food for himself. He was preparing the food for the what about his sons? Okay. So, his son were and he followed in his father's way. But I'll tell you something very interesting and that is that on this right here says ask has a steer between two says regarding table was literally the way kings set their table problem is another that said that he wasn't I feel the It's a says not a that's already a whole another story. A well-known says and this is something that if didn't say nobody could say he meant something else. What he meant to say was is that headed what was his legacy as far as god goes he was a nasi to many what was legacy he was the author of the wrote the says says and he wrote them he wrote them with his fingers says you know was trying to say he picked up his 10 fingers and he said I gave over the these 10 fingers I gave over my voice. I spent a life of writing so that there'll be a because of like this. We could not be learning today if not mysterious and he did it with his assets. And he says I never took anything from it. I did it 100%. I never asked for anything in return. And that's all that he was trying to say. And he wasn't trying to say it was that table was set like table. It was set for a feast the way kings ate. What did he mean to say? It's unbelievable. He says what he meant to say was something completely different. He meant to say that I gave over these 10 fingers and I was never expect have to do with anything. What does it have to do with? It has nothing to do with that's a different point. He meant that spice because he gave over his spice. I mean that he gave over that spice. That's what he was trying to say that he did. He never took anything was he was a what he was going to charge people. Where was he going to charge people? So clearly was being that so he says who says when he put together the even though you're going to tell me he was such an why is that such a godless who said he was an when he wrote the so the truth is we have a on this was a when he wrote to no >> we have a march that we spoke could be but a few times and that is the in The over there says a very well-known there was no asks from a whole bunch of different and and different people and etc etc at the very end says I have one more god to add to that Who am I adding? So there were three. What did have in common? They all contributed of wrote the Mishnaashi together with wrote the says the in order to take upon such a project of writing you had to berad it wasn't enough to have because the resources that were necessary to embark upon such a project required was qualified to write the Mishna because he was raashi was able to write the he was a god He was Tyra but he was also and it was necessary to have to and otherwise a project like this could never have been done but the ter was before he was when he wrote the it was only because of his it was because of his we have two we have and incidentally another very big that comes out of is that wrote the truth is wrote the is actually a riot to this in the very next we'll see but in many places says he never wrote the he just put it together he was he has rias to this really it wasn't written until years later bottom line is is predicated on that he wrote it that's the whole punch line it was his fingers it was regardless There are three times that an olive tree is harvested. And every time a zas is harvested, there are three grades of oil that are taken out of each one of these olives. And the Mishna describes this in great detail. The first harvest is ice is from olives that come from the very top of the tree. Rashi says that the top of the tree is the most exposed to the sun. As a result, it's the very top of the tree where the start ripening first. So the person that's making oil would take those zim, he would crush them and he would take these crushed olives. He would put them into a basket. The reason he put them into a basket is baskets have holes in them and the oil would drip through the holes. says he wouldn't put it on the bottom of the basket, but he put it on the sides of the basket. The oil that came out from this. So all that was done so far is the olives were pressed and put into a basket and oil was just oozing out of the bottom of the basket. That is the this is the first grade, the first of oil that's going to come from these days. Then he would take a beam and he would press the olives a second time. It wasn't done with it was done with stones. Oil would come from there. That's the second grade. Then they would take the leftover olives and they would grind them. And that from that oil that came from there was the third. The first oil was kosher to be used for the in other words the second cannot be used for the obviously you can use the first also. But the point is that whereas you only allowed to use that first oil that oozed out from the bottom of the basket for the as relates to the you could use the first you could use the second you could even use the third. So this is from the first harvest of Z. These are the olives that are the top of the tree closest to the suniag. This is from the part of the olive tree that was parallel to the roof of people's houses. So it's not the top of the tree but it's pretty high up. This was the second harvest. They ripened. Second, what would he do? The same thing he did with the first. First, the person that's making the oil would take the olives. He would press them, put them into a basket. Not on the bottom of the basket, but on the sides of the basket. Oil would come out. That's the That's the first grade. Then he would press it would be with stones. That's the second grade. Then he would grind it. More oil would come out. you were able to use this and the rest. What about the third harvest? That's all the leftover, whatever's left. He would take it and he would put it into a vat. The problem with the was it never really fully ripened on the tree. So, now we're going to have to artificially genetically modify it on some level to make sure that it's going to that it's going to properly ripen before we make oil from it. So, they would take it and put it in a vet until it's spoiled a little bit. Then they would put it on top of the roof, press it, not on the bottom of the basket, but rather on the side of the basket. Any oil that came out that was the press with stones and then they would grind again. So really the process was the same. So every time olives were harvested, they would extract oil from it three times. The first time they would press it, put it into a basket like this on the bottom of the basket, the slider basket. Oil would ooze out. That oil was considered the purest oil. That was oil that had to be used for the van. Then they would take a a beam as stones. They would press it again. Oil would come from it. The third time they would take the leftover olives, they would grind it and any oil that came out would be used as well. Again the was had to be used for the all three were to be used for the Mishna said that haz the first harvest of olives was and I want to show what the proper gear in the Mishna was I didn't look at the on the but it's very often on such gar that the brings to his thesis that we just mentioned 12 seconds ago that the Mishna wasn't written by but it was orally transmitted. All he was was the held that you find many with weren't sure about the propag of a Mishna. Why weren't they sure? Open up and you'll see it wasn't written. It was all the and that's why there was confusion. Now you would say maybe there was a question and exactly how it was written. Was it written or was it written me? But wasn't okay with that and he held that from the fact that the does this fifth par is not sure is it with an al or with an in some places makes this either way that was the sh is the word or is the word mgalgoy means to be malate to harvest meal means to ripen which would suggest they had to wait until it fully ripened before they took them off. Either way it says you arrive from a Bryce the Bryer apparently knew was properly vetted out and and in that Bryce it's clear one way how so and this Bry is a whole of everything we just saw the she that was used for the had to come directly from the Zasu this is why we're bringing the B for that one word it's not it's me they bring it to And they would grind it. The oil that came out naturally, that's the then they would use a beam. Then they would grind it and the oil that came from that. The first great the other two even the same was done with the second harvest of had to be done a little bit differently. Here they had to bring it into the put into a vat until it's spoiled. They put it onto the roof tomorrow. They made it like a until it water started flowing. They would grind it. Then they press then they would grind it has a few two of which I mentioned in our Mishna. A third one that he's going to mention right here as far as how this process went. He says number one in the beginning they weren't in it right there that was one difference in the bry versus the Mishna in the Mishna when they took the off the tree so the first thing they did was is they would kesh they pressed it with a mortar and then after or in a mortar and then they would put it into a sal and the oil would come out. The braces said they would in it. That's how they got that first oil out. So here is commenting on the price of what we have in our but rather that's number one. Number two this never used the beam they always use stones. Number three, they never put it on the bottom of the basket. They put it on the sides of the basket. Also said in the ask our said that they were they weren't right at the beginning. They werees. Who is that? The problem is everything else in the Mishna seems to be the Rabon because commenting on the Mishnah right is saying that it wasn't on the on the side of the use they used so the time of the isnud or is it gives the obvious answer no the town of the Mishna is the town of the Mishna it's not and it's not he held like that they used they werees it as opposed to being it in the beginning. But at the same time, he held that they used the Yehuda who held they used he also held that they put it on the bottom of the Yehuda who held that they put it on the side of the south. The bottom line is there are nine different oils technically that come from every olive tree because the the tree was harvested three times and every time they harvested the olives they extracted oil from it three times. On that note, the first oil that came out of the first olives that were harvested, harvested, that's the second oil that came from the first olives that were harvested. And the first oil that came from the second set of olives that were harvested, they're equal. The third oil that came from the first and the second oil that came from the second and the first oil that came from the third oil that came from the feels like you vomit. And the second oil that came from the shaishi the third oil that came from the third harvest there nobody dies. That's the in that's the most inferior. So the best oil is the the worst oil is the we'll see now that there's really we saw it in the previous between the oil that was used for the and the oil that was used for the it had to be the it didn't matter if it was the so the sheni the cost of the but the shenies and the of the respective harvests were not cautious for the mono. So you see clearly that there's a higher standard of the grade of oil necessary for the than for the and the says that really it should be just the opposite. Really that wasn't used. It was just to light up the base. Why is it not that way? based on it's only that we require as opposed to the do not require the Mishna says that the asks the obvious question but didn't we say that you can use the for the and you can't use the for the what does that tell you? That tells you the is better than the says that it's what does it mean when we say that it's it means from a perspective and the point is as follows. The point is is there shove as far as the grade of oil goes. You want to know grade of oil stating that the is always going to have a milo. The milo that it's going to have is that it's going to be number one mo and number two it it was never used with the it was never ground. So from the technical requirements, you always have to have research. So you want to know which is better. They're equal. They're equal. They both cost the same amount of money. They're both as but still technically they're not the same. And there's certain technical requirements that the oil of the needed that the oil for the need. So the oil is always going to have to be aish based on its technical requirements. But at the same time from a great perspective the reason the same and therefore as it relates to there was no difference you always want to use the best for the it's all the same it says regarding that you all know this the first means has to be pure reads this is that it had to be pressed. I would think that only the is allowed to be maybe the oil used for the is not allowed to be. It says clearly and it says you see it could be use and for the point is you don't have to use and why not because the were brought very very often there were so many and the ma therefore being that it was so if you were going to have to use this type of oil, it would get very expensive. And and it's for that reason that says that it's okay not to use it. Meaning maybe would be a nice thing to use it. But the point is you don't have to use it. It's not this is on the biblical level. would we have recently we had on the bottom of the base the context over there was the do you have to buy could you buy so in that concept said and which was explained by that we spoke out then because the brought him so the very often will say and not bring him a car but that's the one place in sh where the brings up The as if to say that the miracle of water coming out of Iraq was going to help not only the people but also the why do we care about the so we spoke at the time a from and from that there's a that there's a a steer because Rashi many places in Rashi brings a different rash brings a from n is that before would come and potentially declare a house to be a mitzvah. So the says we would tell the person take everything out. Now what are you taking out? You're taking out the because we're worried that maybe the bias is going to be is going to end up being has no so as a result we say take out the rashi brings you see from here. So the and others ask is that why is rashy throughout always say that what's the why doesn't bring this and then we flip the question we said really rash is a mishna so the cash is more not a rash rash is quoting a mishna if you can quote a garish of course youni so why are we quoting a not aishna regardless if you take a look at rashi right here rashi also brings this is Another Rashi. We mention Rashi in we mention Rashi in now we have a Rashi quotes as we'll speak more about this in tomorrow's but this is very very similar to the beginning of par. Now this is in I mean it's almost verbaten the first and this is it's actually interesting the actually are bothered why begins with the words that's a you find in the You have to make sure with the fact that there is a that says this regardless says it's for you. It's not for me. You think I need it? I don't need it. I don't need that soften and prove to the fact that I don't need the light is the fact that the isn't soften and dark meaning there would have been to think that the reason there was a mitzvah to light the dwells in the it's his house and as a result needs light needs light and that's what Hashem is saying you're not doing it for me I don't need your doing it for yourself proof is because if it was for wouldn't it make sense that The light should be next to the is the last of so you usually if you're sitting down to eat and there's going to be a candle with dinner. So the candles are going to be next to the the food here. You have one and one. That's the says that this is not for me. The asked and this is the scribes the miktosh had windows they were and they were they were wide inside on the outside they were narrow why again to emphasize this point that doesn't need light to come in from the outside that this is that I mean no that wasn't the point of the it's not alessly but rather the purpose of the delightful the 40 obviously that's not the must be that it's my that is referring to They would put the same amount of oil in the as they did in the other. So there was a miracle with the it would burn longer than all the other which was the that's a huge discussion in the which it physically was what exactly this line means is also a big discussion in the actually coming up in the next few days and towards the end of already holding by the end of so we're going to come to a lot of that talk about the so we'll have opportunity again to talk about the but you take a look at Rashi Rashi says that The nebi meant one of two things. The neovi was always the first one that was lit and it was the last one that would remain lit. So there was always a small miracle related to the nei. But actually says sometimes it was even a bigger miracle because sometimes in the morning when the cayen would come to be made to he would find that the nevi was still lit. He wouldn't extinguish it and he would let it light as long as it had a light and he would come back later at night to light the mono and it would still be lit. So either it would just light a little bit longer like that onele that that that doesn't extinguish that's it's a flak that's that's one and that sometimes would happen but alternatively says sometimes it was even a bigger miracle the miracle was it would literally light straight through the day regardless some rate to speak about this we left out some raid regarding zas that's Mars that.