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Blind Tasting with the Herzogs

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MTI came to visit me from California this MTI is my neighbor I told him that he's coming to visit me and Li his glory decided to come long story short I'm supposed to blind taste him he just barged into the office who opened you the door downstairs was open no your your lovely manager text your lovely manager did it so here we go I'm going to Blind this you guys what do we need to taste we need to taste region what do we need style blend what in order let's just put in the glass and then we'll talk we'll go in order what is the last time somebody blind t with you often often but I'm not not on not to a great famous well-known audience like yours this like a whole big level this a whole new level when is the somebody blind for you Tasting Room did it to me a while yeah and were you okay the good thing was was INF it was easy to pick out It's tricky because when you're tasting blind you know you're you're obviously tasting like Joseph said what region is from you're tasting what varietal it's from first um and then the last last last thing is if you happen to have a recollection of which wine it is um then you can figure out the wine But It's tricky because just like if you meet hundreds and hundreds of people uh you have to you know you could remember that person but you don't like your manager downstairs actually when he walked me up I know I know you but I don't remember from where okay right so I remembered him then he says I met you I met we were together in France yeah so that was helpful but I remembered him I recalled his face there were things about his his his his talking that I remembered but I couldn't remember where I knew him from so that happens very often when you do a blind tasting but I always to tell you the first thing I like to do when you're doing a blind tasting is you smell if you like it or you don't right so you need to know if this is a wine that you want to enjoy that you don't want to enjoy and then you try to narrow it down typically you know more you know regions you know variet you know certain things he totally came blind so the first thing I'm going to speak color color this is I call this a medium thinner thin medium thinner the nose what what does the color say so the color says is this a big this is more of a lighter just simply this is more I would say a light red this is not a dark big red so when I think about light red I would think right away I could think more varial like a Pino like a ganache thinking sanesi I mean you could go all these different lighter red sometimes sometimes you could also get color color tells you a lot about age what do you what do you think about the color color is a dead giveway on age this this is not this is not so much of an age color as much as Joseph says it's a lighter color it's also extremely extremely extremely fruity there's not a lot of Oak and if there is Oak it's not what's jumping out of you this is not a this does not come Oak first this comes fruit fruit fruit first um barely any Oak influence I'm just debating between getting a little of I don't want to say Old World in terms of the nose more French although the younger vintages you don't get it that often burgundi and or rone burgundi and Rome although it's brushing off it's going more I'm getting actually I'm getting brighter way brighter notes now way brighter I'm getting I'm getting a ton of the strawberry things you mentioned before uh you know again I don't want to lock myself into the Pino style but would you be able to say if it's a car vintage or it has a few years of wine on it you really taking this way you shouldn't wish you're going to no you're starting with a blind without knowing any data and you just want to go through the whole thing no I'm just saying you can say you it could have age but it's not showing tremendous age on the color we didn't tast yet it's not showing tremendous age by the way 3 4 years is not what we're talking that's not when the color changed that's not age that he's speaking about you guys are ready to try because my pens tried it already Okay okay for first of all I'm before tasting I'm just going based on alcohol alcohol is not a high alcohol so it's St me to Old World okay I'm surpris actually's bigger much much bigger than much bigger much bigger than I thought from the nose I had fruit I had very very soft it's much much bigger in the nose and actually pull back cuz I think that there is wood in the mouth I get wood and the nose it was more more just front forward yeah European it's definitely it's it's definitely okay so we establish are we right are we right that it's old world old check it off Old World it has a few years you were right about that that the color the color is what the wine is but it definitely helped for a couple years on If This Were yeah if this were California you wouldn't get you wouldn't get the structure is is Old World structure very very you think of the wine you like it you love it I love the fruit I really love the nose has nice acid too has nice acid and and and much much more than I expect like I said think it's pretty well Balan I haven't try it in a while and I think the wine is beautiful really I think the tannin are a little bit out of sync with the fruit if you ask my personal opinion so in other words I I don't know if this is part of the aging process that this happened too so when I drank it I expected more of a fruity G like wine G Pino but I I didn't I didn't get that when I tasted it is it a blend it's definitely it's a blend it's a blend definitely a blend I think but I don't think it's not a cab based blend no it's not a c might maybe morow maybe gach so what what do you think of the one you like it you love it or this the Spain yeah it's old gache old van G yeah he kept on saying uh amazing yeah that's what it is no seriously I'm going to show you the label okay that's very good that's yeah because I made it years ago it's a 2019 yeah and we made it with you and the first time but I think the wine is beautiful it makes sense it's a ganache it's a how do you like the wine like for real the I think the talons have to have to loosen up okay no his what year what year is it 19 his wines can age for 15 years no problem that's a lot of concrete also if his wine yeah a lot of it is concrete so it's stand but it's Old Vine gnach you're speaking about really Old Vine gach Why did Why did why did you think it's Grimes cuz it couldn't be anything else I was going I was trying to as we call peel the onion right so I was trying the certain flavors it wasn't Italian I that I knew or that I could put I don't know it had to be more of the the bright fruit it was older Vines based on the T I'll tell you the I think my giveaway was based on the tanons and the color and structure there was something here that I un guys this two minutes that I'm sitting over here blind tasting this is the reason why I got into the one in the first place thank you so much and hopefully next year we'll blind T something else right this and that's how we learn by the way I even tell my kids constantly just put the wine in the back I'll be honest with you I I never tasted this wine from you so this this also my first never tast my first that's why I Pi my first time that I'm tasting this wine I'm so happy I picked this wine and thank you so much and wow I I would I would actually be I would and we we can find out but I think there's more of the Karana and the SRA than you would expect because the granache does not give you this kind of of of tense um tense tannant but what I may the reason is because no it's Old Vine if you know there's Vineyard which I do know there's Vineyard I was there you're speaking about 100y old Vines so what you get the the tonnage you're getting you're getting maybe a ton to one and a half tons to the acre you really get so it's all the intensity you're getting compar basic compared to California not to California compared to Young Vine in any of those regions you must probably get four to five tons of the in Israel you got 16 no no no also in highend wine you don't get you get five is pushing five tons to the acre in high end wine thank you Old Vine that all the goes into these it's about one and a half ton that's part of the incredible I just love doing this thank you so much you love doing it when it works no thank you so much to the Tes how do we close [Music]