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Good morning everybody. You're listening
to table for two with Naomi Nakman on
the Nakam Seagull Network. Wow, we had a
crazy week. We had a baby blizzard which
was hyped up to be the biggest blizzard
of the century. So, we're going to talk
a little bit about that later on the
show, but you're listening to Table for
Two, and I'm very excited to be here
today. Today's actually Wednesday
morning right here on the Lower East
Side. Um, we were touch and go about
trying to meet up. I have an incredible
lineup and the snow. Are we coming in?
Are we not coming in? We're going to try
to pull this off because I really wanted
this to show to happen. And I just
really want to thank my amazing engineer
ZK Copel for coming in today because we
knew it would be hard driving in and it
was pretty amazing. Thank you God for
that. No traffic and easy
parking. But thank you ZK and giving you
a big shout out for uh yay for coming
in. Um I have an lineup today like no
other lineup I've had before. Just I'm
always excited about my shows as you all
know because I'm uber enthusiastic. For
today's show, I have Russell Robinson,
CEO of the JNF. If you remember last
year, our Tishvat show, uh he was able
to join us over the phone, but I made a
pact with him last year that he would
join us in the show and we would eat and
drink our way through the show. And
that's what we're going to have today.
Uh pairing with uh some great wines.
Naomi Ross is joining us, Jewish Cooking
Concepts. Uh she's joining us. And of
course, Jay Booksbound. Woohoo. Royal
Royal Wines Marketing and you know,
Sumelier extraordinaire. and he's going
to be joining us as well today. So, we
have an action-packed show. So, stick
around for our Tishvat show and Naomi
will share her wisdom, Jay, his wines,
and we're going to hear right now from
Russell Robinson. Thank you so much for
coming in. Thank you very much for
having me here, Naomi. As I said last
year with the offer of wine and food,
you would come on down. I would come on
down even in the snow. Even in the snow.
I know it was really I was very nervous
for yesterday while it was, you know,
coming down, but it stopped at a decent
time. So just because of your show. I
know. Thank you. Thank you. The power of
your network. I know, right? Power of
Nakam SQL network. That's it. There you
go. Thank you, Nakam. Okay. Um, so uh we
have so much to talk about. I just, you
know, want to talk a little about the
history of the JNF. Most of us are
familiar with the Jewish National Fund.
As little children, you know, you hear
about the tree planting in Israel, but
there's so much more to it than that.
Um, so let's start with a little bit of
the history of how the JNF got started
and what year. So the JNF started in
1901 and uh
the beginning of the Jewish National
Fund and I think marking what today is
and I'll get to that in a second is so
significant because the Jewish National
Fund started after 5 years of a Zionist
Congress coming together the Herzel
calling the the uh people Jews from all
around the world and to understand
realize that we had to have a place to
call home and the only place to call
home after a lot of debate you know um
uh where to go. Some places even thought
about upper state New York and Uganda
and other places. But the reality is is
that we had to return to the place of
the Jewish people, the the land of
Israel. And after 5 years of debating,
uh finally the Herzel got past of the
Zionist Congress that we can keep
talking, but we have to have action. And
we started the Jewish National Fund to
repurchase the land of Israel.
Repurchase it. And I always use that
word because we didn't use legal
arguments which we could have or
biblical arguments which we could have.
What we did is that we started buying
acre by acre of land for the Jewish
people to return home. And the great
significance of that is that that is 114
years ago.
We're celebrating the anniversary
celebrating. We're marking the
anniversary of the 70th uh uh year of
the um liberation of the camps. Yeah. So
the significance is is that why we
didn't get get it fast enough. We didn't
do it fast enough. So 6 million people
perished because they had no place to
call home. And that is really the the
the the real underlining message of
Jewish National Fund. bringing a Jewish
homeland back to the Jewish people. So
after that many years, the relevancy of
our organization continues. It's the
repurchasing the land. What do you do
with the land? You have to grow on the
land. You have to develop communities.
You know, Tel Aviv just celebrated a
couple years ago its 100th anniversary.
Well, Tel Aviv was a Jewish National
Fund town. The first 65 housing lots
were purchased at a Jewish National Fund
lottery. Wow. I did not know that. that
today is now Tel Aviv. And you take all
of the places from the far north to the
south, it's all touched by the work of
Jewish National Fund. And we're so
relevant today as we're involved in
water renewal, bringing to Israel, a
fact that people love to talk about
today, but 16 years ago was not a fact.
Today, Israel reuses 78% of its water.
Now the country next to it is Spain at
17%.
And that such a big difference. Big
difference. Now but 16 years ago we were
doing about 4%. That's the mark of
Jewish national funding. It's only 16
years ago. That's it. That's
unbelievable. Out of necessity. You
know, you have to that's that's
providing 13 14% of water which is about
for 1.5 million Israelis uh water. But
really what it means is that that
farmer, the origins of our Zionist
movement, digging our hands into the
soil, the celebration of Tubishvat that
we're talking about, honoring the land
of Israel and and the and and the earth.
Well, we did that. That was the Jewish
National Fund mark onto the land of
Israel. And so that story continues as
relevant as it was then. It's our
opportunity to share in the nation of
Israel. If we believe that Israel is
nothing more than a a country of its
citizens, then we don't need the Jewish
National Fund. But if we believe that
Israel is the nation of the Jewish
people, that means that 14 and a half
million Jews are part of that land. Just
7 and a half million live within its
borders. That is how relevant Jewish
National Fund is today. That's such
incredible statistics and information
that that you've got there that you're
sharing with us because I think people
really don't know enough about it. You
know, the the the background and and and
what's currently going on as well. It's
just, you know, very informative for
people to hear all this. Um there are so
many other projects I know that you're
working on, not you know, you think of
when you think of JNF, you think of the
trees and the planting of the trees up
north and but you've got a lot of other
stuff going on as well in the south. Uh,
of course the galil, I know we wanted to
talk about how the galil is, you know,
progressing and and you know, all the I
know that the soil there, I know Jay and
I always talk about the the uh wines of
the northern Israel, how the great the
soil is there. So So you have to, you
know, the the what is Israel today? It's
the negv 60% of the land of Israel. 60
only 8 and a half% of the population
lives there. You have the that's very
small. You have the Galil, 17% of the
land of Israel, yet 10% of the
population live in there. So, we have to
move populations to the Galile, move
them to the negative. We have to protect
spread out. Spread it out and we have to
protect the environment. And we're known
as this environmental organization
because we planted 250 million trees.
250 million trees. What country has done
that? Most countries log the trees down.
We don't do that. Well, it's not only do
we not log the trees down, we preserve
the land. Wherever you're planting a
tree, you're preserving a piece of land.
You're giving it to nature. You're
giving it to the people. It's a tree.
People look at all of us. We'll walk
through a forest and we don't realize
how beautiful it really is. How it's so
beneficial to us that we have a place to
walk through to have that opportunity to
play and and parks and and those things.
Those are a lot of things we take for
granted. That's the work of the Jewish
National Fund in Israel as well. But
moving 500,000 people to the NEGV where
we started 15 years ago and we've made
such progression building seven new
communities, taking Bereva from a
community losing population 10 years ago
to today the fastest growing city in
Israel. How are you doing this? How are
you convincing someone from moving from
or one of the small settlements, come to
Beerva, come to the Nev? How does one do
that? So you have to examine that's what
the work of the Jewish National Fund
does in its real you know uh I think and
in its work it's not building a project
it's building a vision. So we understood
that people h want we need people to
move to Bereva but why weren't they? So
there was good education you have
Bengorian University. Yeah. Very good.
And a lot of American students go study
there. So you had housing because you
have plenty of land you have a movie
theater. You have a shopping center. So
what are you missing? You have a
hospital. you're missing image because
you're not going to move someplace where
you just don't think it's a place you
want to live. So, we built a $300
million project still continuing a 15 km
7 mile river park taking an old dry
riverbed and it will have water in it in
the next 5 years. We have a a 22 acre
lake that will be opening up in a year.
We opened a 13,000 seat amphitheater in
Beer Cheva, the largest entertainment
venue in Israel. Abraham's Well, where
you know didn't know that it was there.
Maybe you were there, but it's behind a
locked fence today. It's a $6
million worldass visitor center. I had
no idea. And I've been to Israel so many
times. So, come you can actually go to
the well. Not only go to the well, we
turned it into a visitor center that was
just recognized in the New York Times as
a place to go to. We did not know that.
And we've all been to Israel many times.
So I think Abraham's well is kind of a
significant uh uh place in our history,
Christianity and in Islam and every
religion. It's the beginning of
monolithic religion. That park that
we're building in Bereva, including the
river park, is three times the size of
Central Park that has converted the
image of Beeva that grows to Beva.
That's unbelievable. and in the north. I
never would have thought, you know, to
to to think that a desert is turned into
I guess with Israel, you never know what
you they build farms in deserts. And
I'll tell you for your readers, too,
every Wednesday, we have a departure
leaving Jerusalem. It's a one-day trip.
They can go on to our website at
www.jnf.org.
Are you grabbing this everybody? JNF.org
and go to our our We have a weekly
departure every Wednesday. It leaves
from Jerusalem. It's a one-day
departure. you're back by the afternoon.
Jay's already writing notes. Write it
down and uh sign up for it and you will
be able to see from the Stay Road indoor
playground that we built. You'll go and
see uh our work in new communities in
the negative. You'll go to Beva. You'll
see the fantastic work of our of our
work in Bev. You'll be back in Jerusalem
by the afternoon and you get lunch on
it. So, oh, you know, we're all about
the lunch. We're all about the lunch on
this show. And in the Galil we're told
how do you move populations there? It's
you talk about jobs and opportunity but
did you know that AO gets 2.5 million
visitors? I've been to Ako. Ah but were
you 15 minutes outside of Ako where you
have places that are making goat cheese
that you have at least 25 wineries.
We're all we're all platting over here.
Goat cheese and wine. Okay. Why didn't
you bring any? Ah
Naomi we'll be eating soon the goat
cheese. you know, go to uh our website
or western Galileo website which we're
part of. Yeah. Can we can we we're going
to put that up on the screen, the
Westgal.org. CK is going to try to put
that up on the screen. If you're going
to go to AO, spend a couple more hours,
go to all these small little boutique
wineries, go to these wonderful cheese
uh uh factories, go to a place that
makes uh unbelievable breads and foods.
And it's killing me. And and so now you
could this what does it do? It doesn't
even not only it gives you an
opportunity to taste and to feel the
land and the people, but it increases
their opportunity for tourism industry
which increases funds which increases
opportunity to hire people. That is the
work of Jewish National Fund. The
rippling effect of the vision that we
have to bring in populations and
strengthening them.
You know, I'm absolutely speechless and
that doesn't usually happen to me on
that show on on my show that that I or
in general. I'm never speechless, but I
I am completely humbled by what you are
talking about and what the JNF has done
and and continually continually doing. I
had no idea and I'm sure a lot of our
listeners have grabbed their pens and
are writing everything down. You can
always pick up the show on the archives
if they've missed it and they can hear
this show again and get the information.
Um, people can also email me if they'd
like to uh um get more information. You
can email me at
[email protected]. I can direct you
straight to the JNF or you can try the
JNF.org as well to try to get a lot of
this incredible information. Well,
Naomi, so many of your listeners are
people who go to Israel so often. Yes.
And you know, they're not going to go on
a tour bus and they're not going to go
on a tour. They already have family
there. They have friends. They they know
Israel. And that's why our weekly
departures on Wednesday is such a great
opportunity for them. You will see a
part of Israel that I guarantee, let
them write to you afterwards, they
didn't know existed. Okay. I I'm I'm I'm
looking forward. And if somebody does go
on these the the the tour and please um
email me and let me know because I'd
like to be able to share that
information with our other listeners and
how your experience was. And I'm also
going to let Russell know because I
think it's nice to hear how Table for
Two can hopefully affect the the
programs at JNF um is is uh impacting on
all of us. Um I'm going to ask I'm going
to broaden our conversation a little bit
uh with Naomi and Jay because we have an
action-packed hour and I'm trying to fit
everything I in. I even cut out my intro
at the beginning. So um I just I wanted
to get straight down to it. Um so Russ,
you're going to stay there. Naomi and
Jay. Hi
guys. Actually, I forgot that ZK one. I
thought we'd be doing some chair
shuffling. We've actually got um cameras
everywhere. So, if you are listening to
the show, that's amazing and fabulous.
But if you want to turn on, and many of
our listeners do become uh viewers, so
you can watch us uh online live on
Friday mornings 9:00 a.m. Um and you can
also watch it on the YouTube. ZK uh puts
it up uh within a couple of hours after
this airs on the on the YouTube channel.
Uh it's Nakham Seagull um and on on
YouTube and you will find all of our
shows and any shows that Nakam has done
through uh JM and the AM or any other of
our network shows are on there as well.
But we have a nice little following and
I want to thank everybody for those who
do watch as well cuz you know listening
is uh awesome. But um it's it's an
interesting component when we have some
some people watching us and watching us
eat and drink our way through this uh
amazing um group of people. Especially
today um I was re uh Stuart Schnee. He's
a um a book um PR agent and he's in
touch with me a lot. He does quite a lot
of uh books and he sent me a copy of um
Hana Braha Seagullbound's new book. He
said, you know, are you doing a Tishvat
show? And I said, absolutely. And he
goes, I'm overnighting you this book. Um
can we get this on the
camera? The seven fruits of the land of
Israel. It's an absolutely beautiful
book. I'm going to ask Naomi Roths, who
has actually read it in great detail.
I've read most of the recipes, but Naomi
um had the time and literally we got
this book three days ago. I got it on
matzah shares. It arrived and then I
stole it from her and then then she
stole it from me. So Naomi has read it
in depth. So I just want to talk to you
a little about this uh Hana Brahase
Gob's book because it was really amazing
and um you know everyone here like
Russell and Jay both took a took a look
through it seems so impressive. I was I
was just totally touched and blown away
by the book. Um, mostly because it's
something that I don't believe has been
achieved so much in in the history of
like cookbooks, that kind of thing. What
she's done is very unique um and dear to
my heart in that she's managed to
synthesize all the different I both
ideas about uh the Shivadham, the seven
species. She's managed to synthesize it
with spiritual ideas, cababalistic
ideas. um and in a very holistic way.
She brings in medicinal u
facts and practical tips of how to make
use of the Shivadham. Um she and then
she has her recipes which are lovely.
Right. I'm just I'm just holding the
book up. There's a lot there's a lot of
artistry in the book. There's some nice
photographs. She even has a a step by
step of how to use uh fresh grape
leaves. She you know how to roll them
and everything. Yeah, I thought that was
really cool. She did a beautiful job on
it. In fact, I um I was in Florida last
week. Um, that's why the show was on
hiatus and I was standing in the um in a
restaurant because it was super crowded
and behind me in line was a girl from
Chicago. Um, and we were chatting um and
cuz I love to chat to everyone in
restaurants and she was saying her
sister had just um done the artwork for
this new book that's about to come out.
Oh, great. I'm sure I'll see it on the
bookshelves. And then like is it two
days later I get this email from Stuart
Sheen that this was the book that she
was talking about that this lovely lady
Reena was talking about. So I I uh was
it's it's got some it's besides pictures
it's got artistry. I I'm going to hold
it up but um she's an artist and she
painted a lot of the a lot of the
actually there's right right over there
where right where your hand was. You see
that? I'm I'm going to hold this up. in
between every section. Um it's the book
is divided into sections uh based on
each different min each different
species uh grape you know pomegranate
that kind of thing and they actually do
something lovely which is what you just
showed that artwork um it gives a quote
and begins the section but also they
have a profile of a personality of what
that species is. Um, so she and she has,
you know, outlines what it what the
characteristics are of of each of those
species. And then she has a profile of,
you know, who am I as that species? And
she has a a beautiful poetic um, you
know, pros kind of thing in in between
each of those sections that sort of sums
up like if I were a if I as a grape were
person, this is who I would be kind of.
So it's unreal. I'm a pomegranate.
Sounds very sounds very early 70s to me.
Well, it's very it's it's a little
hippish. It was written in late60s. It's
right out of butt iron, which is a
little bit more hippish. Hippish a
little to say. Yeah. Um it's it's it's
almost like a safer and a cookbook all
rolled up into one, which is very nice,
very unique. So, um I think you can get
it on Amazon. Um or check your local
bookstores. It's literally coming out um
any day now. What's the name of it
again? Um, it is called the seven fruits
of the land of Israel with a mystical
and medicinal properties by Hannabra
Seagelbam. S Ei Gel B A M. There you go.
I'm holding it up. Um, for those who are
watching. So, I just, you know, just a
little bit of a shout out to that book
being on on the Tishvat. You are
listening to table for two with Naomi
Nakman on the Nakam Seagull Network. Our
show is sponsored by Ables and Hyman. We
taste better. Okay Naomi, thanks. Thanks
again for that little um intro about the
book. Thank you for sharing it and
letting me steal it from you. I'm
stealing it back now because we got a
couple of days to Tubishvat. Now I can
educate myself as well as having you in
now to educate us all. I was already
reading up for Tubishvat. I have another
book if anybody I don't know if anyone's
seen it or not. It's called a person is
like a tree. It's a source book for
Tubishvat. Also bring this really this
up as well. This really is a safe air
though. It's by Bakbam. Is he some sort
of kidding me? Do you know? Do you know
that? Is it a cousin of a book spam? No,
but I'll take credit. Okay. But it's
it's spelled B ux. Yes. No, I'm BS. But
I'll take credit. Okay. I I I think read
I've been reading this book on and off
since last Tubishvat. And I think that
it has definitely opened my eyes to a
much larger, richer holiday that I I
think I didn't so much have an
appreciation of into as much as I do
now. I think chubbyishvat's kind of like
sometimes it happens in winter break out
here in New York and you know gets
brushed aside you don't learn about it
in school. It's not hasn't become such a
focal point in in our education which is
so sad. You know what's interesting also
I find that I'm sorry that's okay. My my
son-in-law is spartic. Okay. They
probably do more stuff. They go nuts
with tubes. They have sedurum and they
have all kinds of stuff going especially
the shabas. I mean really they have all
kinds of stuff going on and it's a shame
or I shouldn't say it's a shame it's
it's exciting that we're on the cusp of
that you know they're going to they're
going to a little bit behind they were a
little bit behind but you know it's
really a wonderful well I think that
it's one of the you know Naomi talks
about it I think it's one of the great
losses tish was greater I don't think
we're teaching it I think we gave away I
one time made a speech that if you
celebrate Earth Day you're being
anti-Jewish because every day is Earth
Day. No, because we we began Earth Day
with Earth Day began with Tubishvat.
That's what it's all about. I thought it
began with Beres. Okay. No, but Earth
Day there's no other people. No other
people have a new year for the soul and
a new year for the earth. Right. No,
it's it's so true. So beautiful. And and
we don't teach it to our children to
understand that we are really neat
people. We are about the environment. We
are about that. We take a day and
beautiful thing about tourist vod is
that it's not religious. So you can move
it. It's like it's like a president's
huh birthday. You can move it to a
Monday or Sunday or whatever you need
because it could be in the time period.
But why is it during this cold time
period? It's right when and now go
outside on Tubish and go in the deep
cold like outside right now and you will
see that the trees are starting to bud.
Well, we we spoke about that. Yeah. I
tubishvat is really the earliest point.
Why is it the new year for the trees?
It's because it's the point at which the
sap inside the tree starts rising up,
right? It's the earliest point of
renewal for the tree. And chubishvat is
all about renewal. Um, so when when we
celebrate Chubish Fat, it's at that
point when you look outside and it's the
most dreary and you think you take a
look at the trees and they look
completely dead and they look barren and
they look like there's nothing left
inside. That's the point at which God
has put in this little spark of life
that starts rising and creating. And
it's such a Oh my god, I got the chills.
I know. I'm not kidding.
It's a it's a it's a beautiful but but
one of one of the things that's so
amazing is that and this book also is
talks a lot about it um the Torah
compares a man to be like a tree right
so we are supposed to take a huge lesson
for ourselves about our own renewal um
as modeled by the trees we're supposed
to how is man compared to a tree right
we're supposed to recognize that we also
have winters we also So at a time when
we feel like we're at a you know we feel
dead right that there is this
spiritually yeah that there's this sap
rising up in us that there's this
spiritual energy that's sort of yearning
to come upwards good stuff man is this
60s and 70s it's amazing it's just
amazing and and and the seder especially
your your son-in-law the more I've been
learning about the tubisha seder it is
just amazing with so pregnant with all
of the there are so
the symbolisms and multi-layers and it's
so accessible because for our kids like
I don't know about you I I was just
talking about this with my husband when
when my husband went to Hebrew school
and I had it in when I went to a day
school tubish came and we were handed a
piece of dried out buxer right I agree
you could shake with it or something I
thought you could there was some fruit
platters I thought were nuts that nobody
ever wanted because you couldn't get to
the core of it, you know? I I thought,
well, I know it's the new year for the
trees, but I didn't know we were
supposed to chew on one, right? You
couldn't you couldn't even get your
teeth through. It was like so hard and
unpleasant. And the whole idea of the
tubish seder is to make it very pleasant
for us. See, I think that's the issue is
that that's why Tubishvat sort of died
down because it wasn't about food. And
as soon as we bring food in, we as the
Jewish people will gravitate to it even
greater. So I but you're right, you
know, eat fruit and and and participate
and and understand it. And I know it's
Cababala and yes, it's 60s, but it's
it's a neat 60s. It's a neat piece that
talks about even, you know, fire, you
know, how fire you you know, you want to
light candles on Tubishvad and put your
hand on top, you will burn if you get
too close, but if you far enough away,
it'll give you warmth. Everything about
nature and about life has that point
that could give you that renewal. Yeah.
Um the it's for my kids, right? My kids
are are young, but now they're getting a
little older. I'm able to bring more of
this kind of thing into I always try to
do something for Jewish. Yeah. I think
it's so important at home. I try because
and by a tree JNF, of course. I I had
pictures I want you to know I just found
of me as a seven-year-old planting my
JNF tree when when in Australia in
Israel. So we do it in Australia through
the day. By the way, we have your water
bill still.
It it's it's incredible. I thought the
tree retains more water. It may do. If
you pay for it, it will retain it.
You know, now that I always felt like
because the schools I'm not saying that
they're not doing their job, but they're
not. there Russell will say it they
don't make they don't make a huge deal
about it especially it was it was at a
point a few years ago that one of my
kids schools um they sent the kids home
you know the women's league or what
whoever took care of the tubish treat
and they came home with a fruit rollup
oh no that's so sad for a fruit rollup
is shahakul it is not which means this
is not a fruit I'm glad it was at least
on their radar like a lot of times
tobish is really at that point I tried
to adopt something fun for the kids to
do every year. I I wish I could say that
they were, you know, that I was able to
make a beautiful tubish seder for um for
them at that point. But, you know, you
have to do for every age what what they
accessible and what's appropriate. One
year we did like a tubish jeopardy and
that way at least it was a little
educational. One year we did a tubish
bingo. But once you bring in the fruits
and you make beautiful platters, the
kids get into and the meanings behind
everything. Why? What other chevron
minim people that gets lost? I I don't
even think I know all the I know grapes.
I know geffen maybe we should I have to
tell you we're going to start popping
that corks. Okay, we're going to start
one but let's just finish Russell finish
your thought there. I I just want to
tell people that we do have on our
website, but we we go through hundreds
of schools in the United States uh
bringing tashvat to the children and I
think it's what Naomi is saying, you
know, it's so important we have and and
I and I when I say about Earth Day, we
have this really neat holiday, a real
neat holiday about the earth and about
planting a tree and about taking care of
the everything that was God-given to us
and not to have our children understand
this beautiful part. Yes, Roshashan and
Yom Kipur and all of our holidays are
important and all of our lessons are
important, but can you imagine they go
through life and let them say proudly to
people who don't understand Judaism who
they're not going to give a whole speech
about Rosha Shana, but they could talk
about these people called the Jewish
people that celebrate the earth, that
celebrate life for the entire planet,
right? It's it's really it's getting
it's gotten a little bit lost and and
now as we've become foodies and just in
general more educated about besides the
food and and and everything you know
about spirituality and and people are
learning more and wine and and of course
there's a whole tubish piece on the wine
that takes you from the colors. Yes.
Yes. Naomi, you could tell us the colors
as we go through. That's I wanted to
tell Russell and Russ and Jay I I didn't
officially say hi. Hi. I want to tell
how are you? Let's move on. As long as I
have the wine, I'm welcome. Oh, you you
know that Jay is like number number one
uh most most appeared guest on the but I
have to tell you that I I don't know
probably Russell is aware of this but
more drinking up mate even in the negv
which in the rest of the traditional uh
world world of wine growing very hot
desert areas do not grow grapes. There
is one exception in the entire world
where that is not true. You know where
that is? That's in Israel. Of course.
And not only that, the Yatier Forest is
considered one of the best, if not the
best wine out of Israel. And by some
critics, they just got a 91 in the wine
enthusiast. Are they going to be there
on next week? Yes. By some critics, it's
considered one of the best wines in the
world. By the way, in the Yatier forest
is the only handplanted desert forest in
the world. It's unable. And what's
interesting about make the desert bloom,
right? They make the desert. Only in
Israel, only Jew, a lot of people don't
know this is that at night, and this is
great for the grapes, it's very cold.
It's freezing. It could get below
freezing. Absolutely. And Mitzpammon,
which is in the crater, the Grand Canyon
of Israel. If you haven't been there,
you have to go there. I haven't been
there in 25 years. My husband's never
been further south than Bashva. So you
have to go and in Mitzvah Ramon in a
place that you have 110° in the summer
and it goes down to 50, you know, 55
degrees in at night and it grows these
wonderful grapes that are making some
great wines. So you have Yatier and down
in the nega go and it's when you say one
of Yes. One of the most wonderful wines
and very inexpensive is a bark peninoir.
Oh, we we've had bar and that bar
pininoir is a a a chain called Wegman's.
You've heard of it? Not a kosher chain.
They do have some kosher foods in some
kosher areas. We introduced it to them
on Passover a couple years ago on Pes a
couple years ago. They now it's their
best selling imported peninoir. It's and
it comes from the negative and people
are going what? But that's what the
wonderfulness about the JNF is and the
wonderfulness of the land of Israel. If
you are the wine that you're tasting
what are we drinking here today is 100%
pomegranate wine. So this is Shahakal.
Is this a shahak? It is one of the seven
me it was one of the seven. Right. Would
you tell us a little bit about
pomegranate and and how it so there's
you know there's a few different pieces
by the way um on Tubishvat you know if
you're according to the traditional
Tubishvat seder. So they have many
different customs. One of them as as you
actually mentioned was um having four
glasses of wine similar to a peser and
they they go from um white to all the
way to red. Meaning that the colors are
supposed to change um as as you progress
throughout the sa the seder to represent
different parts of the season uh seasons
like each season of the year and how the
seasons of the year change and progress.
There's also a ton of cababalistic stuff
on it.
I got to call up my Yehuda alphabet
should be a great wine selling moment
for you. So we have to really promote it
because the four glasses that go with
the four seasons and the darkening from
the white all the way through. So it
goes from summer, right, to fall, you
know, to to uh you know, to winter and
to spring and or spring summer, I forgot
how the goes and spring, sorry, spring
summer. So you're progressing all the
way down to to the darkness of winter,
but then it comes right back to that
white wine. So Jay, we have to promote
Tubish for the adult. I will war I will
tell everybody there are six wines that
I brought. I'll just briefly tell you
about each one so that this one.
Sure. Varo. Amen. There you go. Okay.
Everybody's uh excellent. Okay. That's a
very nice wine. Um do you want to send
that back down there? But but I will
tell you, let me just briefly tell you
about the six wines that we brought.
Okay, the first one is a and also
because it's fruit driven is a a San
Antonia sangria. But it's very important
to know that this is 100%
grapebased with fruit flavors in it, but
it is not kosher for Pesak. And why is
that? Because some of the fruit
flavorings may not be acceptable to all.
Can I put Can I Sure. Oh, and I like it
cuz it's got a screw top. And that does
not mean it's a low. I used to think a
screw top meant it's a low quality wine.
It's not true. High school years,
especially if you look at New Zealand
18, New Zealand wine, Australian wines.
Now, some of the laws in those countries
are requiring that for certain wines it
has to be in a screw cup. Plenty of
plenty of clear glasses. And I have
another um case of glasses. Just a
little shout out to uh Royal Wines. Uh
KFWE Kosher Food and Wine Expo 2015 is
about two weeks away at this point.
These are the LA glasses from last year.
So, thank you to Royal Wines. You know,
it's great because put your nose into
this like we've showed you before and
smell it. And smell. You don't get just
you don't get just the wine. You grab
you get the fruit. Give to Adam
afterwards. I I did I didn't answer your
question about pomegranate. Oh, yes.
Tell us more about the pomegranate. Um
so we know that the in addition to the
wines, it's also a very big big
tradition to have the seven species as
we mentioned which are um grapes,
pomegranates, figs, dates, olives,
wheat, and barley. But specifically, uh
it's a big thing to have fruits on on um
chubish fat. So the five of the five
fruits of those species include
pomegranate and each of the fruits have
a huge amount of significance.
Pomegranates uh we know um are all of
these uh species are mentioned in the
Bible right um as special to the land
and they all have a lot of holiness to
them. A pomegranate they compare um the
seeds of a pomegranate to the mitzvot of
a person. So um so just as you see
inside of a pomegranate each each little
seed is its own self-contained
compartmentalized little package right
and correct and and the whole thing is
edible. So that has a lot of
significance because um as we all know
we as people are not are not all good or
all bad. We have lots of different parts
of us lots of components. We have lots
of components. We have we have you know
we we have lots of mitzvah. of things.
We don't always do in the right way
either, but we try um we try our best to
um to to be full like a Ramon. That's
what we say on Rashan. On Rashana,
right? There's a few there's quite a lot
of tie-ins as well. Yes. Um I guess it's
all about the new year, right? either
soul or also you'll you'll notice also
with the uh there's a lot of
significance as to uh the attributes of
the fruit whether it has a peel whether
it does that's edible that's inedible
whether it has a pit whether it doesn't
have a pit um and all of those are
representative of um basically different
levels of closeness get getting
closeness to God it's it's it's pretty
significant Naomi puts everything just
so doesn't she she's the she's the Yes.
Wow. I met Naomi at last KFWE and we she
interviewed me. I I pinned you down to
an interview. Yeah. And she's going to
come after you again. She's going to
come after you again. Be warned. We
can't wait for that. By the way,
everybody, right now, go online right
now. I'm sorry. After the show. After
the show. Not during my show. 15.com.
Buy your tickets because there will be
it will be sold out. It's sold out every
year. It's sold out every year. And
there will be no tickets available at
the door. And uh so get it. You should
know me and my food blogger friends, we
are counting down. We are so excited.
We're looking to meet up. 3,000 people
there and it's in a new venue. So was a
it was fabulous last year but it was a
little you know it gets tight because
it's such a fabulous event and everybody
wants to come and so now we've got a
bigger space and Ari White's going to be
there. Can't wait to eat Ari White's
food. We got 30 restaurants. 30
restaurants. Is there like 26? Can is
there somewhere we Okay, we are not
telling you. You got to get there. You
got to come and you're going to be
surprised, but you're going to be blown
away by the beauty and the wine. Here's
another wine. It's called Late Harvest
Orange Muscat. This is my favorite. Now,
a lot of people loves this. A lot of
people when they hear the word orange
muscat, they think that it's made out of
oranges. Not so. It's 100% grape wine,
but if you put your nose, your little
Jewish noses, we're all smelling. Oh my
god, my really get again fabulous.
There's a a sense of oranginess to it.
So you get that impression of orange.
How do they make a grape taste like
orange? I know. We need Joe. Go work for
her. Joe Hurleman in the house. We need
him in the house. But no, when grapes
grow near uh first of all, the the
genetic DNA of a grape really makes it a
lot of difference as to how it's going
to taste. But also when it grows near
other vineyards, like you know, often
you'll hear the word it it's got pine
aromomas. That's because many of the
vineyards that have those aromomas where
the wine comes from are grown near near
pine groves. Uh so it's there's
appleness to it. There's grown near
apple groves etc etc. It's so important
and we've we've spoken about this a lot
about the taw the taste of the land. So
you know I've learned all this from Jay
and and hopefully my listeners have
learned this too that you know it
depends on on where you know the grapes
are grown. It's going to affect how the
grapes taste. So important to note that
this wine is in fact a wine. It is a bor
pyaguffen. Yeah. This is and it and it
can be used. It should be used can be
used for Shabbat. The sangria that we
tasted although is a bor prian cannot be
used for pesak. And the three more rad
wines and I'll mention the other two. I
don't know if we'll get to them. Is a
luchi wine. Love it. Why wouldn't we get
to it? And there you go.
Wine. So and a passion fruit wine. Get
them cracked open. Those are also kosher
for pesak but not acceptable for bor
priaguffin. They are 100% fruit and 100%
made in Israel from the fruits that are
grown there. Back to the tubes
concept on the show. Okay. And finally
is the uh is something for all
everybody, you know, people who can't
drink wine or kids that want to feel
like they're participating. This for
little Leora Nakman who's seven and
likes would like to drink her parents
wine. Non-alcoholic sparkling peach
grape juice. It's 100% grape juice. So
it is a buri pigen. It's 100% kosher for
pesak but zero alcohol. zero alcohol and
you know great for and it's got natural
peach flavors in it. So you got again
the fruits of the you make a very good
point because it's very important at um
on tubishvat to have the shivim to have
the seven species but it's also
important to have other fruits. It's
very encouraged to have all different
kinds of fruits that you can make a bare
pie on um and and one of the reasons I I
had was sort of you know irked as I
mentioned about the fruit rollup story
was because one of the biggest points of
a tubishvat seder is to be able to make
blessings. It's to be able to make a
bare priz and um and have other people
say a mean to your breath. Oh, that's
very nice. Very good point. And and so
that's like an integral part of it. The
whole idea is bringing awareness to us
to have appreciation for what we have.
Let's actually everybody has something
to say. Great idea. Okay. Wait, wait,
first Jay, then Russell, then me. The
sader, right? I didn't even think of
this when I did this when I brought the
six wines, but you have a seder. You can
have six different fruits and and nuts
and whatever and have, you know, a wine
with each one. Exactly. Well, you have
your four wines, so you can you could
you could do the pairing for a different
up. No, no, no. I think that what Naomi
is saying is again how wonderful this
holiday is and and you know how it has
all of these interpretations and and and
involvements and interactions and for us
not to be celebrating too much
everywhere. That's why when I said, you
know, Earth Day, it's not, you know, it
was a joke, but the joke was, why would
we give up this wonderful smell, this
wonderful symbol, this wonderful
involvement of the Jewish people and and
and not celebrate this? It's so just
wonderful. And I will just tell you that
because Jay talked about all the
wineries in Israel, we have every year a
um a food and wine mission to Israel.
Oh, I so want to go on that. Naomi, I
will tell you the problem is is that we
only take 32 people. Okay. When is it?
When is it? It's going this March and
you can find it on jf.org. But here's
the problem. It sells out very quickly.
I can imagine. I can imagine. We go to
the finest chefs in Israel. Why? With 32
people. Cuz you're going into their
kitchen and you're cooking in their
kitchen. So you can't do that with 95
people. And these 32 pe people go around
every day that they're you know the the
bus driver doesn't drink. And I think
that's the only one. Um, and and I don't
know if you should or not. Maybe you
should with the traffic in Israel away.
I will tell you
the they asked me one year I was going
to be in Israel. They said, "Would you
speak to the group?" I showed up at 8:00
at night. It was a worthless speech
because everyone
was I could have said anything. They
said, "Yes, let's go. I mean, let's
drink some more." Um, we would love
that. But, but people who have never
been to Israel go on this trip. Yeah.
and they taste and drink Israel and see
that this wonderful country that people
sometimes look at as well Israel it's
kind of a you know desert dirty it
doesn't have good food it has the
greatest food greatest food Israeli food
Israeli cookbooks are coming out now are
the most popular so I know that you're a
tea totler but in this case I'm kidding
but in this case I'd like you to give us
your opinion on this next wine which is
also from Morad wait I mixed up my
glasses I can do can do it by smell
because this is so passion fruit. I want
to try the leuchy one cuz I like fruit
wine. I'd like I'd like to get Oh, let
let's give Naomi some. And Naomi after
that, after this is explained, we're
going to Naomi's got actually is going
to do our what's for Dennis segment
sponsored by our friends at Gomel. Thank
you Gomeglot for uh sponsoring our
segment and we talk about an easy
recipe. Naomi will be uh sharing that
right after this. Okay, we're doing a
little bit of cleaning glass. Russell is
not only the CEO of the JNF, but he's a
professional wine pourer here at the
Seagull Network. He's gonna take you
learned from Jay Books. Bam. Okay. Wow,
that really smells like Is that amazing?
Have you not This is one of my favorite
wines. It's quite um even though it's um
Shahakal, it's quite strong in alcohol
percentage, right? It's um 13.5%. Yeah,
that's right. It's not It's not It's not
nothing. It's not a mcato, which is 5%.
This is a real swish and breathe. Do it
with five S's. You know that? Did he
teach you that? Yeah, we've done this
many times. Swishing and breathing. I
mean, you know, the five S's. I don't
think I could name them now cuz I've had
like a little bit of this, but Naomi,
why don't we talk about Also, Go ahead.
And while I really want to try that one,
I've never had the luchi one. I'm
obsess. I I do want to just mention that
um in addition there there are as I I
mentioned you know the four wines the
Shabbatim
um there are a few different segments
and traditions customs that people do at
the Tubish Seder um and the reason for
the big emphasis on eating the Shibatam
is because it develops the connection
with the land of Israel. That's what
it's about. In addition, I didn't know
this, but I read it's also a beautiful
thing to whether it's one of the Sheba
hamm or not to purchase and have at your
on chubish something actually grown that
year from Israel. Okay. So, we have a
trouble this year because it's because
of explain. Um this is the the seventh
year um sabbatical year uh where we
don't uh harvest the the fruits that
have been grown while while the land is
supposed to be choppers for the land.
It's we take care of everything, right?
So So you're actually um there are many
many laws about what you can and cannot
consume this year. So it's a little bit
tricky and you should definitely find
out where your fruit is coming from if
you are going to grow uh to eat
anything. my daughter was in Israel. She
said it was very complicated. It's a
little it's it is definitely worth
learning about. Um and um in addition,
but generally speaking, that that is
also an important tradition if you're
living outside of the land of Israel to
partake of something that has grown in
Israel. Um and what are we doing this
year though? Um and also to be able to
make since as I mentioned, we want to
say as many as many blessings as we can.
If you can find a new fruit, we we do
that. Um
Just like just like we do on rash shana.
So it's the rashash shana for the trees.
If you can find a new fruit to make a
one, all the better. Go make lots going
to have amazing stuff out there. So and
um and also to speak words of Torah
about all these different ideas and
things. So all of those fit in when are
we going to get to eat your stuff? Okay.
I just wanted
to hold on guys. One thing that I think
it's really important. We've spoken
about Tishvat. Everybody knows it's
Wednesday, the day after the baby
blizzard. Let's just give the actual
date of when Tishvat is going to be. You
have about a week to get this together.
It starts, I believe, next Tuesday. Next
Tuesday night, Wednesday. And it's
Tuesday night, Wednesday. So, you can do
it after on uh Tuesday night, which is
probably 5:30 quarter to 6 about and you
got to finish and get it all in by that
same time the next day, right? So, just,
you know, let's keep that in mind.
You've got a week to get your research
together. Naomi has got so much
information she's given us today. You
can listen to the show again on our
archives or on the Nakam Seagull network
app anytime. I'm excited because I'm
actually going to be giving a a Tubish
class on Tubishvat which is very very
fun for me um that I get to really
involve myself with with my students and
it's at the JCC in the five towns. So,
if you do want to go out to the JCC,
you've got a week to uh call them up at
JCC. I don't have I used to know their
number by heart, but I do not know uh
the number by heart anymore. Um but you
can look them up JCC of the five towns
and sign up for Nami Russ's class. She
is brilliant and she's informative and
we and part of my menu there is going to
be incorporating the Shibatam into a
greater menu. So if you don't have the
tradition to do a tubish fat seder, you
can still, you know, you can create your
own by by incorporating it into a larger
meal. Um, a lot of times, especially
since it's the winter, like I love fresh
figs, which are one of the the seven
species. Correct. But you can't really
get fresh figs at this time of the year
unless they're importing them from I
don't know where, but I haven't seen
them. Um, so the tradition has become
since it's winter time, you end up
relying on dried fruits a lot. Okay. The
problem is that a lot of people don't
like the dried fruits. A lot of people
find the dried figs to be crusty and dry
and whatever or um for example dates
also get mixed reviews. So what I like
to try to do is to incorporate them into
recipes and menus that really really
highlight them, make them delicious for
people, make them more enjoyable for
people. Um, I brought one little sample
today um as a way of showing what you
can do and how you serve it um to make
it a little bit more um appealing for
those who are not huge date lovers. Oh,
this is going to be good. I already know
this. You know, I already said I'm I'm
always about the go-to. So, the braha is
for for a date. Um, and we're using
today medulle dates, which are um really
the most wonderful ones out of the
Jordan Valley. They're they're just
delicious and they are meaty and
caramelly and down in the south. They're
just fantastic. Um, these I think are
are actually Israeli ones that I had had
um available. I stuck them in my
freezer, but you know, a she's so clever
on so many levels, but this was a good
one. I have to store them because I like
to She's like a bear. I hibernate for
the winter. Um, but but for the schmitty
year, we need to stock our freezes. But
for like like I said, if if you don't if
you want fun, easy ways of dressing up
the sheet, this is a nice way of serving
them. It's super simple. It literally is
a five minute recipe. You basically make
a mix of goat cheese, um maybe some
cream cheese, cinnamon, honey, um and
just make the mixture and split open the
dates, remove the big pit in the center,
stuff them in, and then you top it with
either a pecan or an almond and bake it
really only for say five, six minutes
just to warm the cheeses inside and melt
it a little bit. Melt it a little, get
the flavors, the aromas at 350
uncovered. uncovered for five or six
minutes and also toasts the nut which
brings out the natural oils and aroma.
Um and if you are not to show them to
the or if you're allergic to nuts you
can skip it. You can skip but the nuts
the nuts are nice especially um on
tubish the you know the the famous
song. Yeah, you sing it. Sing. So what's
the first line of the
song? Right. What's the shape? I'm
actually going to take one. The almond
tree. The almond. Why is it? Because the
almond tree. Let me give one to ZK. Can
you have one? It's No, you don't want
one. The almond tree is the first to
blossom. So that's why it's in the song.
Uh these are actually with pecans on top
just because I happens to like them
better. Well, okay. Careful. Be careful.
Okay. All right. So Naomi has done our
what's for dinner segment sponsored by
our friends at uh Gourmet Glass. I will
I'll post it on my She's going to post
it on Jewish cookooking concepts.com and
maybe she'll you'll give it to me. I'll
post it on um the Aussie gourmet.com and
um thank you for doing that. Our show,
you record your tubishvad uh seder
filming. Um it's not being you mean at
the JCC. It it will not be filmed. It's
a cooking class. It's a cooking class.
It is an intensive. It's a hands-on two
and a half. So I will be more than happy
to list your uh website on my website as
well. Great. And people can go to our
website because then they can show up
with the tree certificate and they can
also go on and we're even for Tupushva
every year we have a a raffle and two
free trips to Israel. Uh go online to
www.jnf.org
or call 18008 um um what is it? Uh 5
8005428733. Order your trees. Register
for the uh raffle. Go to Israel. That's
fantastic. Thank you. I'm so we we're
going to do that too. Um I just Yeah,
this is delicious. Okay, you are
listening to You want one? You are
listening to Table for Two with Naomi
Nman on the Nam Seagull Network. Our
show is sponsored by Ables and Hyman.
Okay. Um this looks amazing. I'm going
to try this. The the cheese sort of cuts
cuts the richness of the the date
because the the dates are really rich. I
know goat cheese wasn't your favorite.
No, I love goat cheese. People were
crazy about goat cheese. Everyone in
this studio is obsessed with goat
cheese. You can also use one of those
those seasoned goat cheeses. You know,
the ones that have like cranberries or
nuts or like one of those. If you want
to make an easier thing even easier, you
can even take some of those flavored
goat cheeses. And what's this hint of
citrus I'm tasting? Oh, I forgot. Sorry.
Secret ingredient. Um I I held out on
you. Uh orange zest. Okay, now I'm going
to try that with my orange wine. I'm
going to I have the orange muscet here.
Yeah, I'm smelling the orange muscat.
And I'm gonna just have a swig of it
after I've had this delicious bite.
Okay, there was silence there because
this is a beautiful pairing. Well, the
orange muscat with the date that goes
very nicely. We're having the luchi over
here, which also I'm going to try that.
Okay, I I just want to give one the
luchi goes very well with it. Yeah,
really. That does work nicely, too. That
that works very nice. I'm going to try
the luchi now. I'm not sure cuz I didn't
have enough of the dates, so I want to
try. I've lo the whole tray. This is
amazing. I want to make sure. Yeah, you
you have to be sure. Make as my father
um may he rest in peace used to say. I
have to make sure it's not poison. And
my mom says that too as he would steal
everything. You know, I really like what
the the uh what is it? Wal
does also uh I love crunch. I love
texture in my food. I do that a lot. You
need the textural contrast because the
dates are very chewy. The the cheese
filling is very creamy. So, you need the
textural contrasts, right? All your
local supermarkets have these products.
I know Gourmet Glut always has um dates,
they're going to have a nice selection
out. I want to I want to mention also,
by the way, about the figs. If you are a
non-lover of dried figs, if you happen
to not like to eat them just as is. Also
some very nice things you can do with
them are um poaching them in red wine
and then you can make it like a crustini
with more goat cheese with more go or
ricotta if you don't like that make a
crustini with ricotta and put on this
absolutely you know I actually did last
year I don't know if you remember Jack
after we had our interview with Russell
we actually had
aishvat I'm going to repost all those
recipes on the aussiegome.com
um and we're going to have those um I'm
going to have some of these recipes up
there along with Naomi. So to give you
some ideas, some fabulous ideas for
this, you know, it's it's I love it when
the whole family can get involved. Maybe
this Sunday, prepare with the kids, go
through the chevron minim, ask them what
they want, get some ideas from the
family. You say, "Okay, we're going to
have dried figs." And the kids kids are
going to roll their eyes, but you tell
them different ideas that you can come
up with. You also sort of surprise them
a little bit. Um, one of the the recipes
we're going to be making in the tubisha
class is a ve roast with figs and
mosscato. There you go. Oh, there you
go. Once they're cooked with meat and
wine, it's all good. By the way, that
mosscato, the bartinura mosscato is
everywhere. And the meat. And the meat.
Thank God. That is that is like exploded
into every single everywhere market. I
I've seen some ads in the hip-hop world
um on YouTube recently. It's
unbelievable what Mosscato is has uh has
just broken open everything. All
records, right? They say it's the most
popular selling while in the US or
something. the bartinura that category.
Out of the blue, right? Out of the blue.
It's very nice. I was driving in the in
the country somewhere in Florida, like
in the middle of nowhere or something,
and they had a Bartonora sign. So, I was
like very I'm like, "Yay, Royal Wine."
The blue bottle. The blue bottle. Blue
bottle. The blue bottle. Yeah. See, blue
and white Israel. That's where to go.
That's the way we go. Woo. Looks like a
JNF bottle. Here you go. Yeah. There you
go. Blue and that that JNF Todd. Okay.
We'll come back to that. No. Go your
head. you go and then we'll come back to
you. You can you you can also change up
if if you um need to take a break from
sweet, right? Don't forget about our
much um forgotten about olives, right?
Which also
I love olive oil. You know, you know,
it's not from Israel, but I just want to
give a shout out to Breezy Beckham and
she just went to uh Rome on a and she
went to a kosher wine um vineyard there
and an olive press. Veretta. Yeah. And
she bought me back olive oil. Oh,
really? Yeah. She bought me back a
bottle. It looks like It looks like a
bottle of um wine, but it's a bottle of
olive oil. Am I allowed to use that as
one of my chev even though it's not from
Israel? You can't make the braha on it.
However, that does that is you know
olive and olive oil the same way wine
and and grapes are connected, right? um
from a good from a good pressing and you
can make the braha on something else and
then have olive oil on the table or if
you wanted and this is just another idea
if you want to dipping if you want to
make it like fun and and a little
gourmet you know of course of course
family of foodies that's my hashtag you
could get your you could actually wash
and make a mozzi and get your kita your
your wheat in by having a christini
party right and then you can make an
olive tapenad right or dip it in olive
oil. I wanted to just say what a
crustini is. Let's talk about a
christini because not all of our
listeners know what a christini is.
Christini is basically a baguette bread
that you slice on an angle on a bias and
then you put on a cookie sheet with
parchment paper and you put it in the
oven at like 350 to 400 and just toast
it for a couple of minutes. It should
not be brown like toast. It should turn
it crusty and and crispy but still
white. And that's what Christini is. And
you quite often see tempernard with
that. You're putting something wet on
top. So, it has to be firm enough to not
get soggy, but not not not burnt or
brown. You're not putting jam on it.
Remember, see a fig jam. You could do
You could do jams. Yeah. But the fig the
fig and ricotta or the fig and goat
cheese, like you said, is a fantastic
pairing. Um killing me here. Topnod with
some, you know, roasted
um baby tomatoes are, you know, like
grape tomatoes, that kind of thing.
They're not they're not a fruit, but
they taste like a fruit. Yeah. um some
something. There is so much that we can
do and go on to Nam's website, go on to
the aussiegome.com. There's tons of
recipes. Go to your favorite blog.
There's going to be tons of stuff that's
going on. We have so many uh uh great
blogs going out, but I don't want to
mention one. I don't want to talk about
so many of them because I could go on
for half an hour just in listing all the
blogs. Let's just J&F jf.org. You can go
in on their website to hear about the
culinary tours, the their bear chev
tour, the um what have I missed the gift
certificates. Just just make a donation.
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you get your tickets. This has been an
unbelievable hour. We could actually
probably do a second hour, but Miriam
would kill me because uh we've we're
almost out of time. Um I really want to
thank ZK again for coming in today. all
my amazing guests. Um, thank you very
much. We're gonna definitely smoo up a
little bit after the show and you know,
nobody can drive right now because we've
had a little bit to drink. So, uh, thank
you very much. I want to wish everybody
a Shabbat shalom. Um, Nakam's got a
Super Bowl, amazing Super Bowl halftime
show. So, make sure that when it's the
Super Bowl halftime, you watch his
amazing ad on the nakhamagle.com
website. Uh, it's pretty funny. Last
year's was hilarious. He had hundreds
and hund maybe a million views. It was
unbelievable. Uh so make sure you watch
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